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    Quote Originally Posted by Martin_PrinceBR View Post
    The Future is Borax

    The first half of this episode felt like a Homer and Marge marriage crisis (meaning it was boring, senseless and you didn’t sympathize with any of the characters), but the rest was decent, until of course the bizarre ending with the cave creatures. I can’t think a more random and stupid way to solve the plot. 6/10.

    So… the season’s over. I think it was a little better than the last, just by not having Kloger.
    Unfortunately, because this is AD!'s spin on those type of episodes they make sure that it's not just even more tepid then some of the worst Homer & Marge episodes but also make sure it never picks up in the second half which is mostly peppered with pointless gore and an ending so out of nowhere that it proves how even with a minute and a half left they'll always find a way to make an episode fly completely off the rails!

    Honestly, take out the "Yep, we fucking went there!" aspects of Kloger and it's just another a-typical sleeping inducing episode starring Roger. At least that episode or that season didn't have an episode with the worst example of pointless Gorn on any of the MacFarlane based shows and the worst example of the undeserved BS Easily Forgiven ending!
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    American Dad! Season 15 Ratings - Fantasy Baseball: 1.5/5 I Am the Jeans: The Gina Lavetti Story: 0/5 Stan & Francine & Connie & Ted: 0/5 Rabbit Ears: 1.5/5 Jeff and the Dank Ass Weed Factory: 1/5 Lost Boys: 0/5 Shark?!: TBD The Long March: TBD

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    Top of the Steve

    This was good. I know that they were going for a parody of spin offs but I wished that they should have let it proceed like an acutual spin off instead of explaining the cliches. Now this spin off would have worked and not that god awful The Cleaveland Show. I enjoyed Stan throwing out guests. Still good.

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    lucky theres amaerican dad
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    Fantasy Baseball

    Well, admittedly when compared to the last Stan & Steve episode as well as basically all the ones that've come out since the move to TBS this was easily the "Best" of them. That said, I found myself not being able to give a shit about the main plot due to how boring it was plus like most Stan & Steve episodes it'll be rendered pointless by the time it's over anyways so why should I be invested especially since I hate both of these characters normally? But, I'll admit Stan & Steve aren't too bad here despite the former showing signs of his current characterization of being as retarded as Peter and Steve being a little obnoxious.

    Most of the entertainment I got from the episode came from the subplot making this the first episode for 2019 in which I thought it was better than the main plot. Sure, it was pretty much another case of it existed just to give Roger some screentime since he couldn't be shoehorned anywhere into the main plot, but the make up for it by having the craziness of his desperate attempts to make Francine happy escalate into a way that's pretty funny and not episode derailing. Additionally, this subplot does the same thing that My Purity Ball and Chain does where it ends with him actually being punished for his actions even though he attempts to get away (and fails).


    Other things to note:
    * This episode probably holds the record for the quickest the show's been forced to resort to "Pointless gore FTW!" in order to advance it's story. The umpire being run over by the bus was just as needless as the blind man being killed in Season's Beatings.
    * Three forced "Shit!"s in a single episode, all of them not the slightest bit funny.
    * Part of me hoped that Tuttle was killed when he was shot, but I wouldn't be surprised if he continues making more pointless appearances throughout the season.
    * They seriously need to stop with the whole "Roger fucks animals" thing.
    * This episode was written by Tim Saccardo who also wrote Casino Normale and (You Gotta) Strike for Your Right, one of the few worthwhile episodes of their respective season. I'd say that he's currently one of the most consistent writers they have on-staff simply for having yet to write an outright bad episode even though this one is easily his weakest mainly for it's unengaging main plot.


    1.5/5 If the subplot didn't end up being so entertaining, this episode would only get a .5 for it's main plot being just as sleep inducing as most episodes centered around Stan & Steve tend to be.

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    Rabbit Ears (5/6)
    Stan gets obsessed with a 1960s television show after picking up a secondhand TV. Roger decides to live as a baby and the family cares for him.

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    There has been a lot of changes going on with syndication of FOX cartoons. Sadly, American Dad won't be affected by this because you know, TBS now airs new episode. FXX should've at least give the rights to air the FOX seasons and the rest of them can still air on TBS/Adult Swim. As soon as FG and BB are no longer on AS, this will be the only MacFarlane/FOX cartoon remaining (which means the block will be shorten since they have nothing to do with their first hour since their rights to air KOTH expired)
    Simpsons: 4 > 6 = 7 > 5 > 3 > 8 > 2 > 14 > 15 > 13 = 10 > 9 > 16 > 20 > 1 > 24 = 21 > 26 > 22 = 25 > 23 > 19 = 27 > 18 = 28 > 12 > 11 > 17 = 29

    Family Guy: 4 > 3 > 2 > 1 > 5 = 6 > 15 > 16 > 10 > 14 > > 7 = 11 = 9 > 8 > 12 = 13

    American Dad: 4 > 3 > 2 > 1 > 6 > 5 > 8 > 9 > 7 = 11 > 10 > 13 (so far) > 12

    The Cleveland Show: 2 > 1 > 4 > 3

    Futurama: 5 > 4 = 1 > 2 = 3 > 7 > 6

    Rick and Morty: 2 > 1 > 3

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    Jeff and the Dank Ass Weed Factory (5/13)
    Jeff wins a tour through a mysterious weed factory and brings Stan along.

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    I Am the Jeans: The Gina Lavetti Story

    Yeah, I don't really have much to say about this episode that wouldn't be just me repeating myself about how both plots showed that now only is this show just completely out of ideas by this point but are far past their life expectancy rate!

    The only thing I feel like is worth noting is that this episode was written by the same person who also wrote Mean Francine, and to say that this episode is a huge stepdown from that one is an understatement.

    0/5

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    Fantasy Baseball

    The show has six main characters and can do thirty different combinations using two of them but insists on forcing another Stan & Steve. This time it’s about baseball and D&D. Talk about being original and relevant. Yeah, neither Stan or Steve were unlikable here, but their plot was totally laugh free. Not a good way to start a season. 5/10.

    Some note items:
    - For once I really liked the subplot, but it’s explained considering my weak by Francine & Roger plots, I think the chemistry between them is the best among all. Uncle Roger is also one of my favorite disguises.
    - I’m glad someone finally pointed out that it doesn’t make sense for Klaus to stay in that cup. That always bothered me, even if it’s a bit cute.

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    @Martin_PrinceBR, Yeah, when was the last time we had a Francine & Hayley team up? I'd much rather see an episode like that over the four billionth sleep inducing Stan & Steve episode!

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    A Hayley & Fracine episode has yet to happen, unless you count Now and Gwen and some subplots. There are still other combination that haven’t occurred in major plots (Hayley & Klaus, and the subplot for Man in the Moonbounce is hilarious) and I think it’s been a while since we had a Steve & Hayley and Steve & Francine so they could do it again. Also the last interaction in a main plot between Francine & Klaus was in Finances With Wolves back to the first season.

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    I Am the Jeans: The Gina Lavetti Story

    I don’t know what to say about this episode. Maybe the first Roger-centric in a while where he doesn’t do something psychotic? The friendship between Gina and Francine, which I think is what the episode was about, went nowhere and the jeans thing ended up so absurdly random. There was nothing really offensive, this was just bizarre. 7/10.

    Some note items:
    - Dumb one-minute subplot, in fact, but managed to be funnier than all of last week’s main plot (which doesn’t mean much).
    - Did Hayley really get Roger’s jeans? She’s not even part of the target audience considering that her body is the same as Francine’s. And I was really curious to know where the jeans were taking the women.

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    @Martin_PrinceBR, It felt like Hayley was there just for the sake of being there as she's nowhere else in the rest of the episode. Kinda like how Francine doesn't appear at all in Garbage Stan besides the pointless stuff with her in the cold open I think.

    The subplot was actually worse than I thought it'd be since it also went to asinine levels of Idiot Plot!

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    Stan & Francine & Connie & Ted

    Well, much like Family Plan this was an episode that had an overall interesting basic premise. But much like that episode, they decided to completely shit all over it for the sake of bizarre/downright insufferable characterizations from Stan, Francine and especially Steve, the last third basically being one massive lame attempt for the show to prove how "Edgy" it is now, and the stock twist that totally derails the entire episode (even if the twist aspect is the return of something from much earlier in the series, though it's something that I didn't even like back then and it's played much worse here).

    * Fuck me! That cold open was easily one of the show's most dreadful they've ever done. And the callback to it at the end was enough to be the straw that broke the camel's back to completely bomb the entire episode!
    * Oh hey, they actually showed Libby again for once!
    * Of course Tuttle's the one to host the eclipse party because they need to force a pointless appearance from him somewhere into the episode!
    * Speaking of pointless characters, why was Rogu/Billy 2.0 at the eclipse party?
    * Linda was also at the eclipse party and that felt like salt in the wound because THAT's a supporting character that I'd much rather see again instead of fucking Tuttle!
    * Subplot was worthless as normal, but slightly more tolerable when compared to how the main plot slowly derailed the further it went along. Though the climax was super lame and predictable, and yet another example of pointless gore being used to get the plot out of the corner it was written into.

    0/5 Yep, just another par for the course episode for the show's shit pile from it's current TBS/zombie era, and yet another episode that proves that Jeff Kauffmann 100% fails at everything when it comes to writing for this series! Somewhat better when compared to last week's which was 100% boring from beginning to end, but just as bad as a majority of the show's episodes as of the last five years.


    Lost Boys (5/20)
    Roger breaks up Steve's friendship with Snot, Barry & Toshi. Jeff realizes he has a flair for house flipping and gets Stan, Francine and Hayley involved.

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    You always dislike the episodes for the same reason I like them. This I find funny.

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    Congrats @KingKabuki on getting one of your questions made into an ep (he asked about Barry's parents at an AD panel years back).

    Decent episode. Evil Barry returning was neat, just really wish he was a bigger part of the plot than just the last act. Laughed at him referencing the subplot of With Friends Like Steve's. Animation for the second tantrum was also neat. Could've done more with both stories, but still enough substance in them that kept interest.

    Serviceable. 3/5
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    Well, good for him I suppose. Though in that case I wish he'd asked that question during a panel back when the show was still on FOX because it likely would've played out differently (and better) had that been the case.

    Although evil Barry's return still would've failed at least for me had they'd still kept that, I would've preferred that being the only real weak link over the whole episode being up it's own ass by incorporating many of the aspects that's made the show terrible since moving to TBS and once again ruining a decently premised episode.

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    I am the jeans: The Gin Lavetti story: Just plain bad. What was stupid was that Stan and Steve almost have the exact same eye brows and there was no need to switch them Freaky Friday style. I'm glad Roger wasn't a psychopath in this one. But this was still too way out there. Seeing Roger in women's underwear made me puke. The whole main plot was stupid. Hayley didn't need to get those jeans because she was skinny compare to Roger. A 2.5

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    Stan & Francine & Connie & Ted

    Eh … much like the previous one, it wasn’t a bad episode but I don’t have much to say about. Stan and Francine weren’t out of character here, it was just the typical place-swap plot. Making Barry the villain of the story was really unexpected, especially since there was no callback to With Friends Like Steve's before that. 8/10.

    Some note items:
    - Very good subplot, except for the final scene. And I suppose Roger is no longer blind in today’s episode.
    - Hayley appears alone in most scenes even though Jeff is in the episode. Good to see that he can be an independent character.
    - I hate Rogu, but at least it was only his second appearance. I thought he would be a regular character, but thank goodness, no.

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    Rabbit Ears

    - Tuttle was in it omg I hate him 0/5

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    Rabbit Ears

    For a Stan centric episode and one with a somewhat out there premise, this was actually somewhat OK. That said, I probably won't ever rewatch this one again as it feels like the kind of episode that with time ages poorly and gets slightly worse whenever you rewatch it even if you somewhat enjoyed it the first time around (like Dreaming of a White Porsche Christmas and Witches of Langley)

    * I dunno what to describe the stupid shit with Roger as a baby, but it was basically a shorter version of the subplot from Son of Stan since the majority of both pretty much amount to him screaming which isn't a good thing since his voice whenever he's screaming is even more ear piercing then whenever Quagmire gets easily triggered for the most minor and petty of reasons! If it's a subplot, then it's easily one of the worst and most pointless for not even filling up a minute of screentime!
    * This was probably the first episode so far this year to feature Tuttle where he not only didn't feel pointless but was a little funny too.

    1.5/5

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    Shark?! (5/27)
    Stan has Roger pretend to be a shark to help Steve overcome his fears. Hayley's friend Danuta becomes romantically interested in Klaus.
    Unfortunately, something about this episode that's not mentioned here but was revealed at last year's SDCC was that Roger actually bites Steve's arm off. So yeah, combine that with the fact that it's main plot involves all three of the worst of the main cast, and we've got a likely standard shit episode on our hands.

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    Rabbit Ears

    Similar to Gina Lavetti, this episode features a supernatural concept, but luckily better written and executed. It’s a solo-centric Stan episode, so I’d expect it to be a borefest, but no, I was really interested in how things would end. It’s definitely an episode that gets worse if you rewatch, but still solid. 8/10.

    Some note items:
    - So Stan found smushed dog shit on the input cable? Oh, God… this will be marked in my memory as one of the most cringe-inducing forced “shit” utterances.
    - Roger as a baby was kind of nothing but I laughed out loud the way he suddenly entered the persona.

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    I just checked on Wikia, and apparently they’ll broadcast the entire season without any break. This is… weird. It’s like they want to make up for the 9-month hiatus, but I can only think they’ll do another one when the season’s over.

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    @Martin_PrinceBR, Next season's gonna have a Christmas episode so it wouldn't surprise me if they again air that one in December as the premiere after taking a break from September through whenever they air it in December (since Christmas doesn't fall on a Monday this year).

    Also, are there episodes that you can think of that aged poorly overtime or get slightly worse when rewatched? A few examples for me would be Escape from Pearl Bailey, Dreaming of a White Porsche Christmas and Witches of Langley.

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    I agree with Dreaming of a White Porsche Christmas. Others would be Four Little Words, An Incident at Owl Creek, American Stepdad, and perhaps The Enlightenment of Ragi-Baba.

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    @Martin_PrinceBR, Outside of American Stepdad ( which I initially thought was OK before succumbing to this), I've never liked any of the other ones you listed (though I enjoy the subplot of Four Little Words).

    Lost in Space is another one for me that aged very poorly due to later episodes (mainly Holy Shit, Jeff's Back! & Roger's Baby) forcing me to consider that entire arc to be non-canon.

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    Jeff and the Dank Ass Weed Factory

    I'll start by saying that it's a little refreshing to see a Jeff episode (especially when compared to the glut of interchangeable sleeping inducing [at best] episodes dealing with any combo of Stan, Roger and/or Steve) and this episode actually has a plot unlike the 22 minutes of random FG bullshit that was Flavortown.

    That said, as a whole I thought this episode was pretty stupid. And of course, much like in Flavortown Stan's involvement has him selfishly manipulating the situation for his own personal gain thus once again making him have no likability whatsoever (even though any small shred of such that he had died when The Mural of the Story was shat out onto the world last year). The fact that the main impetus behind his unlikability this time isn't even given a proper resolution or payoff just makes his actions even more egregious!

    * They're better off just cutting out the cold opens because most of the time they do nothing but provide one of the worst moments of a specific episode like the mini Tuttles in Top of the Steve, Steve "Going bananas" the first time in Stan & Francine & Connie & Ted and Stan's painful riffing of Jeff in this one.
    * Speaking of the cold open, Steve doesn't appear at all outside of it. And even then, I don't think he had any actual lines.
    * The scene of Hayley punching Stan is a perfect example for how this series will always take their rare actual funny moment and make sure to squander it. The aforementioned was great, but of course they had to ruin it by having Francine do the same to Hayley and then Roger breaking Klaus' bowl for no reason other then them doing the FG staple of confusing random for funny.
    * First episode in forever (or at least it feels that way) where there's not a pointless appearance from Tuttle, though they make sure to double down on that by giving one to the even more annoying Brian Lewis...
    * That one guy had his skin torn off from his face, and yet it wasn't anywhere close to being as horrifying or credibility/reputation killing as when Stan did the same to Hayley in The Mural of the Story.
    * First episode since Death by Dinner Party (ironically also written by Joe Chandler & Nic Wegener) where there's no subplot. Dunno how to feel about that. On one hand, it means that a little more effort was put into the story. But on the other, the story was so uninteresting that a break from it would've been welcome even if it would've been the standard two to three minutes of pointless filler/forced screentime for Roger.

    1/5 Not the worst episode I've seen this year or to come from the writing duo of Joe Chandler & Nic Wegener, but nonetheless another episode that I'd classify as one of their many failures on their mostly sloppy resume.
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    The Long March (6/3)
    Hayley and Jeff move into a van and start living life on the open road; Francine and Steve are haunted by a rideshare driver that they rated poorly.
    Well, it took long enough but we've finally got our first episode of the season that just from it's synopsis alone sounds like an episode that actually won't make me want to go to sleep! Though of course I make sure to go in with no expectations as always since the rule of thumb for AD! most of the time is "If it sounds like an interesting idea, they'll find some way to fuck it up!". Also, the subplot sounds like your standard two to three minutes of pointless filler, but at least it's not what most of them have been lately which is just a poor excuse to give Roger some forced screentime since he couldn't be forced anywhere into the main plot.

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    The Long March (6/3)


    Well, it took long enough but we've finally got our first episode of the season that just from it's synopsis alone sounds like an episode that actually won't make me want to go to sleep! Though of course I make sure to go in with no expectations as always since the rule of thumb for AD! most of the time is "If it sounds like an interesting idea, they'll find some way to fuck it up!". Also, the subplot sounds like your standard two to three minutes of pointless filler, but at least it's not what most of them have been lately which is just a poor excuse to give Roger some forced screentime since he couldn't be forced anywhere into the main plot.
    The Long March does sound good. The Hayley and Jeff main plot sounds like a great idea for a spinoff. Hayley and Jeff on the open road is a great idea for a spinoff.



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