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  • Episode I: The Phantom Menace

    8 6.61%
  • Episode II: Attack Of The Clones

    2 1.65%
  • Episode III: Revenge Of The Sith

    8 6.61%
  • Episode IV: A New Hope

    25 20.66%
  • Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back

    61 50.41%
  • Episode VI: Return Of The Jedi

    14 11.57%
  • Episode VII: The Force Awakens

    2 1.65%
  • Rogue One: A Star Wars Story

    1 0.83%
  • Episode VIII: The Last Jedi

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    i knew it would only be a matter of time until he was fired

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    @CousinMerl Damn, Mandalorians and references to Rogue One? I mean RO was kinda boring but I'm a stickler for continuity so
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    Haven't seen any of his movies and he sounds like a huge jerk but it seems weird to use the reception to his "arthouse" movie as evidence he can't handle the lasers & spaceships movie

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    http://www.starwars.com/news/j-j-abr...c%7C1069686719

    I think this is playing it too safely. I would have preferred if they went with a director who hasn't done a SW film yet.

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    Great and very enjoyable (as well as interesting) trailer. Really liked how it focused more on the characters instead of the action and explosions.

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    as if i needed more reason to be hyped for this...

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    Finn vs Phasma? Oh my god yes

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    https://screenrant.com/han-solo-ron-...shoots-budget/

    They might as well just credit him as the sole director by now.

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    So that thing about the old footage being "very usable" was a lie huh

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    can't wait for the lord & miller cut 20 years down the road

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Homer View Post
    So that thing about the old footage being "very usable" was a lie huh
    I'm going to guess it wasn't but Lucasfilm preferred almost the entire thing redone by scratch to ensure a more cohesive film. That Lord and Miller footage will be recovered someday. Kinda insane there now exists essentially a lost Star Wars film.
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    There will be a new trilogy after the sequel trilogy is completed.

    http://www.starwars.com/news/rian-jo...c%7C1147746103

    I guess The Last Jedi must be really good for them already giving Rian the task.

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    Give Rian IX too

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    I read something the other day about how they were planning on setting up the next few years of Star Wars movies, and ever since then I was wondering if they were going to make another Trilogy or what they were going to do.

    Interested to see Rian Johnson heavily involved.

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    EA strikes again. Turns out that all of the hero characters in Battlefront 2 have to be unlocked first. In order to obtain them, you either have to grind for over 40 hours for to get enough in-game currency to buy each character one at a time, or just use real life money. After EA's attempt to explain backfired and their statement defending it on Reddit became the most downvoted post on Reddit history, their severely cutting down on how much it takes to unlock each character.

    Typical EA.


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    I'm so glad I didn't mindlessly preorder that shit

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    I don't even play the Battlefront games and I think this is downright terrible. It's just EA being greedy and moneygrubbing; you have already paid for an pretty expensive game and then you have to suffer through grinding, microtransactions and/or in-game payments to continue playing and get new playable characters (good thing they significantly cut down the costs for them but they should really be free to unlock). It's almost like they don't want people to buy the game.
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    Personally I've always been a Star Trek guy, but my friend and I have been doing rewatches of all the movies once a week lining up with the week of the new one's release. This week we're finally hitting the OT territory with Star Wars, which along with Empire of course is the best one.
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    So apparently 'The Last Jedi' is out and I went to see it the other night. Surprisingly great movie with as a lot of twists and turns & surprises on top of the action and the drama (really liked the new characters too); didn't expect this one to be on par with The Force Awakens but it was, at least to me (and it might have been even better).

    Has anyone else around seen it yet (and what did you think of it)?

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    I enjoyed it. I can't say at the moment that it resonated with me any more than ANH or TESB did, but it certainly blows the PT out of the water for me (although I still have that weird, weird attachment to TPM). The backlash mostly confuses me right now. There are a few moments that bugged me for sure but they don't overshadow the enjoyment I had. Enjoyed the new characters, enjoyed the action. I feel like I missed the numerous SW "swipes" this time around similar to the last movie, though, as it felt more action-y than usual. It wasn't as static feeling like the prequels due to that, though, and allowed for some pretty neatly shot scenes. I had seen Revenge of the Sith (and A New Hope which o god so much more life in it than Sith) the night before since some station was playing all the movies and man it really just felt like a lot of standing/sitting in one place while things happen.

    Felt myself getting rather emotional at some key scenes. There was also a lot of moments that just made me smile humorous and otherwise. I have seen many complaints that they tried to hard to make this movie funny and while I do think they did turn up the humor, I was fine with it because it did not feel like the comedy and the humor itself undermined the tension involved. Not like say, having Jar Jar step into a pile of shit because kids will laugh. Althought that green milk... Eh, there are quite a few quips and such in the movie and some felt more obviously "fun" than others (one involving Maz Kanata) but it's nice to see these people have non-wooden personalities, frankly. Thought the acting was well done over all. It's haaaard to listen to Mark and Carrie speak, though. It's just hard to accept how they've aged, how Carrie is gone. And given what transpires in this movie and me remembering A New Hope so freshly it just brings it all around to this sad, conclusive moment that got me good when it happens. These characters have lived long, hard lives and boy the First Order sure is mean!

    I flat out do not understand the people who say this movie is an insult to fans or ruined everything. Maybe if they're like huge EU fans or something, but even then...I just really don't. I can understand being mad at some of the hokey messages within and some other things for sure but I can't agree with anyone thinking this is worse than prequel stuff.

    Will try to do a spoiler-filled run-down of things I liked and disliked.

    Disliked:
     -I'm a dope and have a hard time understanding Kylo Ren's words sometimes.
    -The girl Paige in the beginning needed to hustle oh my god. Sad what happened and also thrilling to watch it successfully go down but that was a slow, slow climb...
    -Snoke didn't really do much of anything except look like Biff Tannen I guess. He bridged the Force in two people's minds, ok, but it's amazing to think he was supposed to be such a big deal. We know basically nothing about him still, heh. Now that he's gone...who cares. Welp.
    -I'm definitely one of those people who AT FIRST sat there going "why didn't you just tell dummy Poe about things so he wouldn't FUCK EVERYTHING UP, Holdo??" but eh...dude was demoted, things are as he himself said "need to know." And once he DID know, um, well he fucked it all up by being heard by someone ready to sell them all out. I mean he couldn't have KNOWN that, but I am assuming this is the exact king of precaution Leia and Holdo were prepared for. God they just had so many self-inflicted casualties because of bad communication and hardheadedness, though.
    -The ice/mirror scene was weird. Like it just felt weird to witness at all. Perhaps once someone more intelligent than me breaks it down I might appreciate it more?
    -"THE WORST KINDS OF PEOPLE" lol casino planet fulla richies I get it lol. I mean it made for one or two neat moments but uh wow bash us over the head with that there message ya? Probably the weakest section of the movie. Though I guess that hokey moment at the end of the movie with the boy using the Force on the broom was a bit hopeful. But still hokey.
    -I want to like and dislike that hammy "no no YOU say the force line" thing but it would've meant more if that whole backstory of Leia and Holdo meant anything to me here and didn't just seem like Laura Dern excitedly telling Carrie Fisher may the Force be with you. But at the same time, just knowing Carrie is gone, it feels like it really does mean more.
    -Rose/Finn romance wut. I mean sure maybe I'd ship it but wut?
    -Bye Phasma, I guess? Maybe not... but I honestly forgot Phasma was even a character until she showed up.
    -Quite a lot actually happens in this action wise to the point where I get confused as to where the fuck people even are. At two points I was expecting Hux to get blown the fuck up because I just straight up don't remember who is on what ship.
    -Spent whole movie waiting for Finn and Rey to be reunited only for the unnecessary moment of awkwardness for Rey towards the very end lol thx whyyy 



    Liked:
     -The acting. Kylo Ren in particular I know a lot of people will be CRYING about his emo sad face and booo what a baby and whatever but hey, he impressed me. His anger in this first movie was almost comical at times but this time around I feel like I sense that conflict in him to a point. And that moment where he demands the Falcon be shot out of the g-d sky was great.
    -Continuing on acting, the new character Rose was pretty cool. Enjoyed watching her antics with Finn, especially that key moment towards the end of the film. I don't know about that whole being in love with Finn thing!!!! That was completely out of nowhere!!! but hey sure as long as y'all are alive because I really thought one or both might die for real at that point.
    -Like I said, I really thought they were gonna let Finn sacrifice himself. I normally never worry about main characters like that because I mean, duh, but I just really had no idea what to expect out of this movie. But I also thought they were offing Leia in the beginning of the film and I was about to be incredibly pissed off until that amazing moment with her self-rescue. Which people apparently hated because cheesy and Mary Poppins like. Ok. I guess. I was happy to see her use the fucking Force, frankly.
    -And yeah deaths...I think Luke's was well done. Going back to having just seen ANH on TV the night before, you start with this young bright eyed guy staring into that binary sunset about to start the rest of his entire life. And he ends it calmly, contentedly staring at another binary sunset. I had chills.
    -AGAIN WITH THE DEATH but yo, I was very happy to see Holdo hyperspace the fuck out of that destroyer. Big time. I don't care if you aren't particularly attached to her, that was a cool moment and if you were busy being mad about her decisions earlier then this was the redemption whether you think it was worth it or not. ok I'm just gonna admit I've been dyin' to see a ship get hyperspaced.
    -Was a big fan of the cinematic shots of key moments and just even other set up shots. If I had this on my PC in hi-res I'd be cappin' so many scenes for wallpapers right now.
    -Snoke looked like an actual piece of misshapen decaying meat-man rather than CGI, fascinating.
    -THE BACK TO BACK FIGHT WITH REY AND KYLO
    -Kylo didn't turn so easily, thank you. Stick to your evil, angry, BIG guns, my muscular boy. I enjoy your conflict but you're so good at raging.
    -PUPPET YODA. And him talking sense into Luke.
    -I really don't fucking care who Rey's parents are. Nobodies are better than someone else, frankly. Not everyone who does amazing feats comes from "someone." I'm so annoyed at these damn fanboys crying that she ain't a fucking Kenobi, god. Suck it up, theory makers.
    -Luke was sik, even if it wasn't REALLY him at one point. It FELT like seeing the old Luke back. His appearance to Leia and Ren almost had me fully tricked. Then I really thought about it "why the hell would dude cut his hair and change his clothes for this?" The reveal of him Force projecting had the whole audience near cheering. He went out like a hero without even leaving his rock shack.
    -It felt warming to see R2's message from Leia again.
    -Rey and Kylo's connection was different...and cool.
    -Poe is responsible for a lot of casualties technically...but his whole character and role drove a lot of my energy for this movie in general 



    Ugh I'm tired of typing and thinking. I need to learn how to review. My mind is mush and I want to see this movie again. TFA, too. Only saw it the one time.
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    The fan hatred towards the film is friggin' ridiculous (I mean, even on the TheForce.net forums, maybe the biggest SW fan board, I see lots of complaints about this and that from the film in various threads). While the films has it's issues, plot holes and stuff that could have been handled better (including some things that felt kinda sloppy when I think of it) and while I understand the divide among fans and a lot of the reasons this have disappointed a lot of folks I cannot see this garbage film tons of people are complaining about.

    I really liked that it dared to a lot of new and also sometimes daring and even unexpected things and surprise the viewer (myself included); I liked how it was different from TFA and was quite original (I even liked the Canto Bight section which is often cited as the worst part). A lot of the backlash seems like it's because the film was totally different from what fans were expecting and while the haters might have some good points I still think the furious outrage is overblown.

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    I ended up really liking The Last Jedi and thought it was a lot of fun, but I admit it did leave me feeling a little empty by the end of it. I admire how brave and subversive the movie is... It seems so brazenly designed to break the mold in every way possible. People looking for a redux of The Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi are most certainly going to be disappointed. I appreciate that they were bold enough to take things in a new direction. But at the same time, the film is so interested in being different and meta, that it makes certain decisions that I question are straight-up bad storytelling.

     Probably the most difficult aspect of the film is Snoke. I am sympathetic that Episode 8 inherited a pretty shitty setup, that it has this mysterious new Emperor character that is basically the same as the old Emperor. Like, that sucks. I kind of agree with their decision to just get rid of this guy and toss away that same old setup we saw in the original trilogy. Let's go to new places. But I didn't actually feel anything when Snoke was killed because I didn't actually know who he is. The film treats him almost as if Snoke himself really isn't that important, it's all about representation. Which, fine, maybe he's a MacGuffin sort of character. But they weave him so intrinsically into the backstory of this film (with Ben Solo's descent into darkness/Luke's training) that Snoke himself becomes a very very relevant character. They go with a very generalized, "Snoke spoke to Ben and turned his mind to the dark side" and kind of call it a day. That who this Snoke is, isn't that important. And that showing any of this internal struggle within Ben (during his training) isn't important. It feels like the film was desperately trying to avoid the Prequels issues of just redoing a shitty Anakin/Palpatine thing. We obviously don't want to laboriously do that again. But considering how this character turn basically drives everything that has actually happened, Snoke's shallow portrayal undermines the plot.
    (This obviously may be expounded upon in the next film, just thought that they played Snoke way too casually for their own good in this one.)

    I'm looking forward to seeing the hotheaded Kylo Ren at the reins of the First Order for the next film. You can tell, with his leadership and that Hux guy, that some poor decisions are going to be made in the next one. Never seen someone so hotheaded in charge of anything, so it will be interesting.

    The detail of Rey being a total nobody is such a clever un-twist, that I hope they stick with it. This series has been so about The Skywalkers and The Chosen Ones By Birth (so sick of that), that I want to see characters like Finn and Rey and Rose now. Everything about Rey and Luke together was basically executed perfectly, including his appearance at the climax.

    Captain Phasma is such a waste of time. I'm not in the camp that hates the Finn/Rose subplot, even if it is all a misdirect, just because it hits thematic checkboxes the film needs to hit. But Finn does seem to be a little lost in the plot, trying to figure out where he fits in this big story. They ended up wrapping his arc so much into Poe's arc that I find it a little redundant as a whole. They give him a slightly different spin at the climax (about saving those you love), so maybe that observation is unfair. I like Rose, though. Looking forward to seeing more of her in Episode 8.

    Poe's storyline about leadership reminded me of the sort of parable they would do on the show "24". It was some neat little commentary about how it is irresponsible to do all that cavalier and brazen stuff, and to risk everyone's lives on such a tiny gamble. I think that is really compelling arc, especially for a character like Poe. I do question if the moral is a little too "sober" for a series like Star Wars. It's the kind of film that wants to smack your hand if you're thinking about doing something creative and out there. It's a very realistic moral to portray, especially given how much this film deconstructs Star Wars, but in their quest to be soberly realistic about the way the world works, they stripped away a bit of drunken fun. Maybe I just miss Han.

    (Space Leia was weird.) 


    I want to see it again. Seems like the kind of movie, with how much it plays with expectations, where the second viewing gets even more interesting.

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    probably the best star war, although i hold no special reverence towards the originals. i guess i'll spoiler tag everything else just in case

     i thought the first half was kinda clunky and i was feeling disappointed really up until rey starts communicating with kylo ren. it just felt a little clumsy and there was something off about the way rian johnson sequenced his shots in comparison to abrams. i watched the force awakens the night before and i still think it's great, mostly for being a masterclass in blockbuster storytelling and delivering everything a star wars fan should want or deserve, but it's still highly derivative, even if its preternaturally good at using that to its benefit. in the second half of the last jedi, after having been lulled into thinking that i could sense all of the story beats coming, all of a sudden snope is dead and the reveal of rey's parents is deliberately anticlimactic and it's temporarily unclear if kylo is even gonna still be the bad guy and the guy who seems like our roguish hero actually fucked everything up. all of that comforting predicability of the force awakens is gone and it really does feel like it can go anywhere. i legitimately considered for a brief moment that finn might just straight up die when he was flying towards that battering ram thing. not that he isn't a good character, but i was kinda hoping he would die just to take this franchise out of its comfort zone even more. killing snope was probably the best thing they could've done. he was a lame villain and there was no need to postpone his death for another movie when we all knew kylo was gonna do it eventually, and it was the most promising sign that they were gonna break the formula. even kylo not wearing his mask for most of the film was great and a deliberate attempt to reject the rehashing of the original trilogy.

    i would need to watch it again to get a better understanding of what it was saying wrt legends and myths and destroying the past. at first i thought it was just paying lip service to those broader themes like the force awakens did, which was fine and cool but seemed fairly contained to its own universe and just a way to get fanboys excited. johnson seems actually interested in exploring those themes and seeing them out to their logical conclusion. i don't expect abrams to really follow through on that in episode nine but oh well. i'm a bit nervous about returning to abrams more conventional approach for the next one, but imo the different styles of episode seven and eight really couldn't have complemented each other more perfectly.

    leia flying through space was weird and i didn't like it but the more i thought about it, the less bothersome i found it. basically just a clumsy as fuck way for the audience to have a moment to say bye to leia/carrie fisher while acknowledging that yeah she still has some more shit to do in the story. could've been a beautiful moment if it didn't become so absurd.

    i didn't know i wanted a yoda cameo but i was really happy when he showed up. it should've been obvious but i never really considered it as a possibility for whatever reason.

    benicia del toro and laura dern were both great  

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    All I can say is that I can't take a person seriously who thinks Last Jedi is worse than the prequels. We're all entitled to our opinions, but I can't imagine what someone has to value in movies to think shit like Attack of the Clones is legitimately better than this extremely beautiful, well-acted film. It has some script problems, but come on.

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    The rather extensive reviews you guys have posted really puts mine to shame.

    Among all the good to great stuff I have to agree that there was a bit of undercooked and/or sloppy storytelling and iffy story decisions (one of the big issues was   Holdo creating several unnecessary situations and problems by not telling a large part of the resistance about her plan even though she had good intentions and we never got to know if it was because of fear of double agents or something else; damn "character keeps important things to himself/herself which only makes things worse" cliché ), but things like  the killing of Snoke  and the direction which they took Luke I didn't mind at all (and both of those were done well, the latter definitely taking it all in an unexpected direction, though I think it was unnecessary to  have him become one with the Force , at least in this episode).[/SPOILER]
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    I don't have much to say, but here are a few quick thoughts of mine.

    I kind of had to take all of it in for a little while after watching the movie. It's a wild ride...

     First: why aren't spoilers hidden immediately on the wall? That's a little aggravating, but moving on... 

     Luke Skywalker walking out unscathed and brushing his shoulder was the most badass part of the movie (but the audience laughed for some reason). And as my favourite character out of all of Star Wars (right above Ahsoka), his journey ending among the same binary star-system as it began was extremely satisfying. I teared up, I'm not gonna lie. 

     With this movie, Kylo Ren has cemented himself as the best new character of the sequel trilogy; Adam Driver portrays Kylo's conflicting thoughts in such a way that it makes him a little sympathetic. Snoke's death caught me completely off guard, which is EXACTLY what I wanted this movie to do. No predictability here, please. 

     The casino scene was a little awkward,
    but it explains a lot about how the First Order came to be and I liked the symbolism at the very end. 
    Last edited by pax; 12-19-2017 at 05:33 PM.



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