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    I liked this. It wasn't a home run, but it was a solid beginning, and I actually liked the voices. It's a different beast than what we've been getting on Adult Swim as of late, and I dig it. There's still a lot of room for it to rise or fall, but it at least earned another viewing.
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    Regarding the crotch "joke" early in the episode - apparently that character was supposed to be a boy and the line was "my balls itch". They changed the character to a girl, and the line to "my crotch itches".

    I think if it had been a kid saying his balls itch, not as many people would have had a problem with the line and it wouldn't have been quite as uncomfortable. Would have been more reminiscent of Beavis and Butthead when Beavis constantly scratched himself while flipping burgers.

    Shock humor / gross out stuff for the sake of trying to be "edgy" or shock the audience does bother me, and does not entertain me. Beavis and Butthead had plenty of gross moments, but it was still funny and often had a weird way of being classy about it.

    South Park on the other hand never seemed to pull it off as well. Never been a big fan of that show. Have tried to watch it a few times, but just cannot get into it. I'm sure the show has many redeeming qualitys (good stories, I imagine), but the awful voices, animation, and shock/gross humor will prevent me from ever enjoying it.

    Regarding American Dad. WTF is going on? When did everyone on teh interweb all of the sudden develop some huge love affair for that show? Not that I'm in any place to really judge it fairly though.. I think I've seen maybe one or two episodes about 5-6 years ago. Just seemed identical to Family Guy, but even less original and entertaining.


    Not to beat a dead horse regarding the first few Bob's Burgers gags - but when did child molestation jokes become the norm on television? To me it's just incredibly disturbing. I really can't imagine what the producers were thinking having that in the show period, much less in the first few moments of the pilot. I can only imagine since Fox executives have seen it work so well on Family guy, they are probably pushing Bob's Burgers to be as raunchy as possible.
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    It's on Hulu.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swartzweldian View Post
    Regarding American Dad. WTF is going on? When did everyone on teh interweb all of the sudden develop some huge love affair for that show? Not that I'm in any place to really judge it fairly though.. I think I've seen maybe one or two episodes about 5-6 years ago. Just seemed identical to Family Guy, but even less original and entertaining.

    Not to beat a dead horse regarding the first few Bob's Burgers gags - but when did child molestation jokes become the norm on television? To me it's just incredibly disturbing. I really can't imagine what the producers were thinking having that in the show period, much less in the first few moments of the pilot. I can only imagine since Fox executives have seen it work so well on Family guy, they are probably pushing Bob's Burgers to be as raunchy as possible.
    American Dad is an anomaly. A lot of people were already annoyed at the concept pre-airing, and understandably so, given the flimsy premise and same-y looking characters compared to Family Guy. And after the first couple episodes aired, the off-putting, annoying, and generally unlikable characters and sense of humor made it even worse than Family Guy. I certainly remember that, and I gave a D and F to the first two episodes, respectively. In fact, they're still awful.

    What the show did was find its own niche. It differentiates itself from Family Guy by actually coming up with clever, unpredictable storylines and letting the humor (usually) grow naturally from that. I've seen people compare it to KOTH for the character-based humor, in fact. I wouldn't really agree with that due to the non-subtlety of it, but I will admit I sometimes get a Futurama vibe from the high-concept sci-fi aspects of the show. After the weak first season, there are no cutaways in the show, and storyline is always the top priority (give or take a few lousy episodes).

    I think the show gets a lot of love now from the internet because people wrote it off at the beginning. First impressions are very important and it's hard to change people's minds on things like this (especially when it started off so obnoxiously), so I think some AD fans are overzealous at this point. Like I said, it took me about 5 years of on-and-off watching to finally start to like the show, and while I still don't think it's a great series, it's at least differentiated itself from its older, more obnoxious brother and has delivered a lot of very fun and creative storylines.

    What you posted about molestation is how I feel about rape gags. It seems that starting from a few years ago, rape has become like a big, stupid joke, and it's one of those things (like cancer) that's just too common and tragic to ever really be funny. I haven't been a victim of it myself or anything, but I certainly know a number of people who have, and I think a lot of folks can claim the same. Rape just...isn't funny, like ever. It wasn't funny in South Park, it wasn't funny in Family Guy, it wasn't funny in American Dad.

    In Bob's Burgers' defense though, I think the offensiveness of the burger's name was the point, rather than a joke about molestation itself. In other words, it was the worst possible thing the health inspector could discover written on the board.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TriforceBun View Post
    American Dad is an anomaly. A lot of people were already annoyed at the concept pre-airing, and understandably so, given the flimsy premise and same-y looking characters compared to Family Guy. And after the first couple episodes aired, the off-putting, annoying, and generally unlikable characters and sense of humor made it even worse than Family Guy. I certainly remember that, and I gave a D and F to the first two episodes, respectively. In fact, they're still awful.

    What the show did was find its own niche. It differentiates itself from Family Guy by actually coming up with clever, unpredictable storylines and letting the humor (usually) grow naturally from that. I've seen people compare it to KOTH for the character-based humor, in fact. I wouldn't really agree with that due to the non-subtlety of it, but I will admit I sometimes get a Futurama vibe from the high-concept sci-fi aspects of the show. After the weak first season, there are no cutaways in the show, and storyline is always the top priority (give or take a few lousy episodes).

    I think the show gets a lot of love now from the internet because people wrote it off at the beginning. First impressions are very important and it's hard to change people's minds on things like this (especially when it started off so obnoxiously), so I think some AD fans are overzealous at this point. Like I said, it took me about 5 years of on-and-off watching to finally start to like the show, and while I still don't think it's a great series, it's at least differentiated itself from its older, more obnoxious brother and has delivered a lot of very fun and creative storylines.

    What you posted about molestation is how I feel about rape gags. It seems that starting from a few years ago, rape has become like a big, stupid joke, and it's one of those things (like cancer) that's just too common and tragic to ever really be funny. I haven't been a victim of it myself or anything, but I certainly know a number of people who have, and I think a lot of folks can claim the same. Rape just...isn't funny, like ever. It wasn't funny in South Park, it wasn't funny in Family Guy, it wasn't funny in American Dad.

    In Bob's Burgers' defense though, I think the offensiveness of the burger's name was the point, rather than a joke about molestation itself. In other words, it was the worst possible thing the health inspector could discover written on the board.
    With all the talk of American Dad in this thread, I'll try to give it a chance next time I see it on (not going get excited about it though).

    Completely agree about rape..

    And I think that's part of how Beavis and Butthead pulled off low brow humor - Were there ever any rape or child molestation jokes? They certainly had some pretty dark/violent moments...(Van Dreasan flying out of the bus over a cliff comes to mind ) but talking about rape, or raping a child just shouldn't be funny and if that is what this current generation finds amusing, I'm definitely disturbed by that.

    On Bob's Burgers, they definitely could have set up that whole scene better. Really, those first few minutes were just painfully bad. Take out the grinding the meat jokes, fart sounds, child molestation burger, itchy crotch, crappy voices - and you might have actually had a good show with wide apeal. The idea of the parents needing to step aside from the restuarant for a moment, with children looking out for the place, and the health inspector showing up during that time - is a pretty good pilot premise. Much like The Simpsons Season 7 "Home Sweet Homediddly-Dum-Doodily".

    Honestly, I would be for changing all the families voices aside from the Dad. The Wife was the worst, but the 2 girls were terrible. One voice is by a man (how and why did he get that job?), and the other is from a woman (her voice is just kinda irritation/annoying). Eugene Mirman is probably ok, but it was nothing great.

    I'm sure the producers don't want the show to get too Home Movies-ish - but Jessica from Home Movies was an awesome kids voice, of course same with Brendon.

    Brendon is supposed to be providing a voice for an upcoming episode.

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    Speaking of Home Movies, it started out pretty (IMO) unwatchable as well. All they really did in the beginning was improv some conversations and then crudely (VERY crudely) animate them. If you try watching season 1, its really no surprise that it was cancelled. Then the show found its niche and became one of the greatest, more subtle animated sitcoms ever.

    Bob's Burgers has a vibe to it that would make it fit perfectly on Adult Swim's lineup in it's early days, and I like that. But now? Adult Swim's stuff is mostly either just too "out there" or not even animated, and I don't think it would fit anymore.

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    This show is much more fully formed than early Home Movies though, that's not to say it won't find it's niche, but it's still more likely to stick to the formula seen in this episode. But yeah countless shows don't even get good to at least their 2nd season, so as long as it continues to show promise and potential I'm sticking with it.

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    home movies fans who don't like season 1 are poseurs

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    I think if it had been a kid saying his balls itch, not as many people would have had a problem with the line and it wouldn't have been quite as uncomfortable. Would have been more reminiscent of Beavis and Butthead when Beavis constantly scratched himself while flipping burgers.
    I actually think the opposite. I've always found "balls" to be one of those crude words that I just don't like to hear, especially coming from a child openly in front of his mother and sisters. I feel that because "crotch" is a universal word that applies to boys or girls, it comes off as less obscene. It's like saying "chest" instead of "tits." Overall I think American audiences just need to get more comfortable with female sexuality. Comedies have been actively using penis gags for the last 15 years and they're slowly becoming less afraid to say "vagina," "tits," etc. I bet in five years a gag like this one will be far less shocking than it was to some audiences on Sunday.

    As for the child molester line, I think the humor in that was the innocent girl trying to help out the family business just had no grasp on the seriousness of it. Since it's an "adult" term, she probably thought adding candy to the platter and giving it such a name would make it more marketable toward adults. I found it funny.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jamie View Post
    home movies fans who don't like season 1 are poseurs
    It's just the UPN one's I don't have much time for, although they still aren't bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Flimpsons View Post
    I actually think the opposite. I've always found "balls" to be one of those crude words that I just don't like to hear, especially coming from a child openly in front of his mother and sisters. I feel that because "crotch" is a universal word that applies to boys or girls, it comes off as less obscene. It's like saying "chest" instead of "tits." Overall I think American audiences just need to get more comfortable with female sexuality. Comedies have been actively using penis gags for the last 15 years and they're slowly becoming less afraid to say "vagina," "tits," etc. I bet in five years a gag like this one will be far less shocking than it was to some audiences on Sunday.
    People keep talking about the audience being "shocked" by the crotch line. Okay, there's always someone somewhere who's going to be shocked by that sort of thing, but I don't think any of them are in this thread or on this site. I just didn't think there was anything funny about the line or the situation. It has nothi do with gender or age, it was a straight up bad joke.

    Quote Originally Posted by The Flimpsons View Post
    As for the child molester line, I think the humor in that was the innocent girl trying to help out the family business just had no grasp on the seriousness of it. Since it's an "adult" term, she probably thought adding candy to the platter and giving it such a name would make it more marketable toward adults. I found it funny.
    How could she understand the concept of a grown adult "luring" their "victims" with candy but not understand that it's serious? Interesting interpretation but I don't think that's how it was written. I thought she was just being blasé about it because she's a wacky oddball from a wacky oddball family.

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    I never really agree philosophically that anything should be off limits for humor. Everything can and should be the subject of some amount of humor; that not to say there aren't tasteful and non-tasteful ways of doing it, but simply touching the subject isn't inherently distasteful.

    I can't even count how many jokes I've seen regarding death and murder and that's even if you isolate that to animated comedies alone. Quite a few of them are funny. It's the quality of the joke, not the subject.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Postmaster View Post
    It's just the UPN one's I don't have much time for, although they still aren't bad.
    Yeah, this, basically. I find the first 5 episodes especially unwatchable because it just feels so obvious that they are almost straining to keep the dialog going. Its very tiring to watch; after a while you just want them to get on to the next scene, but it just keeps going.

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    This was good for it's first episode. Even the best shows have had shaky beginnings, and I have faith that Bob's Burgers can find it's place, because it definitely shows signs of a focused direction. I'll definitely check out the next episode when it airs.

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    Nothing is off limits to comedy fundamentally, though one may have to be prepared for how much of an arrogant dick of a sociopath one may look like if they laugh at certain things.

    That said though, I'm pretty surprised at how offensive the crotch joke seems to be in this thread. It was gross yeah but I didn't think it was that big of a deal.

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    I think part of it depends on the mindset of the viewer going into the show. If you saw the crotch joke on South Park or maybe Futurama, it probably wouldn't raise any eyebrows. But on something like KotH, it'd seem out of place and lowbrow. Since Bob's Burgers hasn't really "established" itself yet in terms of comedy (which is a reason why pilot episodes are so difficult to do), I can see it catching some people off-guard in that respect.

    Didn't bother me though, personally.

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    For me, it wasn't that the crotch gag was lowbrow or anything. I just kinda thought it wasn't really very funny. It just fell flat for me and because it kept recurring it fell flat repeatedly.

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    It's up to you as an audience member to determine what the limit is for you... molestation and rape jokes are too far for a lot of people, but that doesn't mean no comedy should ever be derived from them.

    I thought the Molester joke was the best part of the show

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    i thought the crotch joke was funny the first time just because the thought of someone scratching a rash and making burgers for people is pretty horrific. After that it just got repetitive
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Shutton View Post
    i thought the crotch joke was funny the first time just because the thought of someone scratching a rash and making burgers for people is pretty horrific. After that it just got repetitive
    Heck, Beavis and Butt-Head devoted a whole episode to this concept.

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    The comments on Hulu for this are pretty infuriating. Many people were unable to find literally any humor in this, apparently. Are people so mindless these days that all of their comedy needs to be spelled out for them in the most obvious way possible? I can understand not being into this type of humor, but actually not being able to even pick up on the fact that there is humor? Ugh.
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    Can't we just say it now? Fuck Bob and his burgers.

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    Didn't see all of it but it seems decent enough. Overall better than The Simpsons that night (though Family Guy was still king).

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    Didn't hate it. Really don't think this was anywhere near detestable like some are reacting. I think it sucks that I may not get my American Dad fix because of this, but I gave it an honest chance and I think I wouldn't mind this show sticking around if it knocked out Cleveland Show instead.

    The only show I've seen (lately) that H. Jon Benjamin appeared in was The Venture Bros. so I kind of liked the voice when I recognized it. It does seem like an awkward fit, but the delivery makes most of the jokes, if not all of them, work. It's the only voice in the show I like besides Louise's (who I confused with Francine Smith's voice because the actresses have the same surname). The male voices for females in this show don't make me laugh and just get grating. And the young boy is such an annoying brat that I hate the voice by default. I'm not really sure if it's due to this (or the fact that the joke just wasn't really funny) that I don't really like the crotch joke. Delivered by that voice it's just sort of like 'uhh.' I don't necessarily care about the content but something about how fucking EARLY it happened and the voice and character itself just made me not find it amusing. And yet I liked Bob telling her not to put her hand in with everyone else's.

    I think it's just the voice that made me uneasy. It's a shitty weird voice for the character.

    Anyway. I don't mind the animation too much. Staging is definitely not planned out well for some of the show, like everyone in the kitchen. But I liked the little detail on the meat cubes, and other details around the show. The colors are vibrant, the character designs themselves are a nothing to write home about. The kids are obnoxious as fuck, I feel bad for Bob. I did like the family all staring at each other through the glass, with his reflection filling the empty spot. I'm sort of just spouting random shit out now because I don't know where to go from here with this "review." I laughed a decent amount, I liked Bob's rant at the end pegging him as a cannibal. I loved the old lady going "I'd...I'd try it..there's no wait.."

    I'd continue to watch this show assuming they were able to write in things a little more interesting than a jealous former love threatening the family business. It seems like it could be a good show. I still wouldn't want to lose AD for this, but I'm willing to watch more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rich Uncle Skeleton View Post
    Can't we just say it now? Fuck Bob and his burgers.
    No one's stopping you from saying it if you want, but some of us didn't hate it. Sorry.

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    American Dad is in the 6:30 slot with new episodes, for those who don't know. So we're not literally "losing" it, unless everyone means "losing" by watching it die a slow and painful death between even lower ratings and getting canned by football overtime.

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    This week episode was pretty meh, the best part was bob struggling to stay sane in the wall, otherwise its pretty dull and even annoying

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    I liked it a lot.



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