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    Star Trek: Lower Decks

    From Rick and Morty writer and producer Mike McMahan comes the new adult animated show Sfar Trek: Lower Decks. New episodes will be released on CBS All Access starting August 6. This will be a weekly release like Central Park.
    Simpsons S32 ratings: - "Undercover Burns" - 2/5

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    Bob's Burgers S11 ratings: - "Dream a Little Bob of Bob" - 3.5/5

    Family Guy S19 ratings: - "Stewie's First Word" - 1/5

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    Looks like Final Space/Rick and Morty/generic adult animated comedy. Guessing it’ll be OK, then get cancelled after 2 Seasons. If I wanted comedic Star Trek, I’ll watch more of The Orville.
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    I liked the idea of a new Star Trek series (the first since the 1970's) being an animated sitcom (it being helmed by someone from Rick & Morty sounds like a good choice, the premise and designs are pretty decent going & them apparently going for a TV-14 rating rather than the usual M rating associated with adult animated sitcoms makes it more appealing) but this trailer was really bland and all the jokes in it lame.

    Hopefully this was one of those instances where the trailer is subpar and the actual product is good, but if it's not I don't think this will be more than averagely okay at best or last very long.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CousinMerl View Post
    I liked the idea of a new Star Trek series (the first since the 1970's) being an animated sitcom (it being helmed by someone from Rick & Morty sounds like a good choice, the premise and designs are pretty decent going & them apparently going for a TV-14 rating rather than the usual M rating associated with adult animated sitcoms makes it more appealing) but this trailer was really bland and all the jokes in it lame.

    Hopefully this was one of those instances where the trailer is subpar and the actual product is good, but if it's not I don't think this will be more than averagely okay at best or last very long.
    That was the case with Bless the Harts. Found the trailer to be lame but the show wasn’t so bad. Pretty good by the end actually.

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    I'm also thinking of movies where the trailer made the movie not look like much but the end result was impressive. For instance there's 'Kung Fu Panda' which really undersold the movie as a goofy, silly & childish comedy with a fat panda when the film was in actuality very well written and surprisingly profound with a lot of great things in it which really took me by surprise.

    I'm not expecting anything nearly as great with this show but I'm hopeful the trailer just wasn't the series at its best.

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    So I finally woke up early to watch the premiere, no longer gonna do this for the other episodes though.

    It's really not bad. Mariner is hands down the best character. She’s actually pretty funny and we know more about her than anyone else. Boimler is fairly bland so far. He just is a “follow the rules” guy so far and the other two don’t get enough screentime so I don’t even know their names.

    The episode however was a bit over the place. There’s way too many plots going on at one time. But like most pilots, it’s just world building. Hopefully in future episodes, they introduce us to the other two leads more and focus on only two plots at most.

    The animation is not bad at all. There’s lots of scenes that were well animated like the virus taking over or Boimler being suckled on the spider (reminded me of Rick and Morty). Also Titmouse, one of the biggest independent animation studios in the country, worked on this show and they brought us animated shows like Venture Bros, Big Mouth, Midnight Gospel, and Bless the Harts.

    Overall, it’s not as bad as people are shitting on it all over the web in the cartoon community. It’s definitely better than fucking Crossing Swords and I at least can look forward to finishing the season once it concludes in October.

    C+

    Unfortunately @CousinMeri, so far the trailer was the show at its best, but it's just a pilot and there's 9 episodes left to improve.

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    Haven't seen the pilot yet (will get back once I do), but I would not judge out the show either. A lot of shows, such as the 'Star Trek' ones (which is important to note), do struggle in the beginning with finding its footing, whereafter they do become better. Hopefully the show will improve during the remaining nine of the season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CousinMerl View Post
    Haven't seen the pilot yet (will get back once I do), but I would not judge out the show either. A lot of shows, such as the 'Star Trek' ones (which is important to note), do struggle in the beginning with finding its footing, whereafter they do become better. Hopefully the show will improve during the remaining nine of the season.
    I’m definitely tuning in next week to watch. Lots of comedies (not just star trek) also take their time.

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    I watched the pilot episode, 'Second Contact', and yeah, this was an okay pilot episode (and not nearly as bad as a lot of folks expected it to be).

    It does what an pilot should and introduces the main cast well and has a pretty straightforward plot (the main gang getting caught up in an crisis involving a parasitic infection that turns people into zombie-like ghouls) which works well. The characters are pretty enjoyable and memorable (even if some of them feel a bit basic so far), I like a lot of the designs (such as of the ship itself), the theme is solid (maybe my favorite of the modern Trek shows) and the animation is pretty neat (even though it has some puppet-like movements).

    Still, it is not that funny at all, being more lightly amusing (there were maybe only two-three jokes that made me chuckle). It is also really messy and too overstuffed (felt like they cut down an double length script from 44 minutes to 22 minutes) plus the pacing is way too fast, a bit too much spastic with characters talking rapidly a lot and often shouting their lines; I really hope the remaining episodes slow down considerably and don't rush things because it feels too hyperactive and overpacked. There is also a bit of 'Rick And Morty' feel to it (mostly Mariner & Boimler feeling like Rick & Morty respectively) and I hope they won't copy that all too much and instead be more original.

    My favorite character so far is Tendi. She's a likeable and fun presence and I like her enthusiasm and charisma (plus I like Noel Wells performance, being a fan of her work on 'Craig Of The Creek' where her character steals the show). My least favorite is Rutherford. He just feels really bland and much like Boimler in a sense (being this awkward geek type), but I'm sure the character will be improved upon.

    Overall, it has problems as said and is merely an alright beginning, but I am sure it will improve from here on out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CousinMerl View Post
    I watched the pilot episode, 'Second Contact', and yeah, this was an okay pilot episode (and not nearly as bad as a lot of folks expected it to be).

    It does what an pilot should and introduces the main cast well and has a pretty straightforward plot (the main gang getting caught up in an crisis involving a parasitic infection that turns people into zombie-like ghouls) which works well. The characters are pretty enjoyable and memorable (even if some of them feel a bit basic so far), I like a lot of the designs (such as of the ship itself), the theme is solid (maybe my favorite of the modern Trek shows) and the animation is pretty neat (even though it has some puppet-like movements).

    Still, it is not that funny at all, being more lightly amusing (there were maybe only two-three jokes that made me chuckle). It is also really messy and too overstuffed (felt like they cut down an double length script from 44 minutes to 22 minutes) plus the pacing is way too fast, a bit too much spastic with characters talking rapidly a lot and often shouting their lines; I really hope the remaining episodes slow down considerably and don't rush things because it feels too hyperactive and overpacked. There is also a bit of 'Rick And Morty' feel to it (mostly Mariner & Boimler feeling like Rick & Morty respectively) and I hope they won't copy that all too much and instead be more original.

    My favorite character so far is Tendi. She's a likeable and fun presence and I like her enthusiasm and charisma (plus I like Noel Wells performance, being a fan of her work on 'Craig Of The Creek' where her character steals the show). My least favorite is Rutherford. He just feels really bland and much like Boimler in a sense (being this awkward geek type), but I'm sure the character will be improved upon.

    Overall, it has problems as said and is merely an alright beginning, but I am sure it will improve from here on out.
    Yeah I don't like to put off a show after 1 episode. Pilots usually have problems so I'm willing to watch 9 more before deciding to quit or not.

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    I'll usually give at least 4 or 5 episodes before I decide if it's worth my time, though I'd say this gave an alright first impression so not too bad.

    (Also, just gonna give a reminder: please don't quote the entirety of a post, just the part relevant to your reply, @orangemo.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by CousinMerl View Post
    I'll usually give at least 4 or 5 episodes before I decide if it's worth my time, though I'd say this gave an alright first impression so not too bad.

    (Also, just gonna give a reminder: please don't quote the entirety of a post, just the part relevant to your reply, @orangemo.)
    I keep forgetting to delete the portions my bad.

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    The Envoys episode was better than the pilot. The pilot was fine but it just had too much going on at once. I liked how this episode was able to relax a bit and only have two plots (Mariner/Boilmer and Rutherford). The pacing was better because of it and Mariner of course takes center stage again with her witty humor and proof that experience trumps book studies. And the ending was sweet with Mariner staging the whole thing to help Boimler boost his ego. She's such a good friend.

    As for the subplot, just loved how the upper guys looked mad at first but then supported rutherford's decision. Really cool that he wanted to spend more time with Tendi.

    I'll give this episode a B.

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    A little late but I'll give my brief opinions on the previous two episodes.

    'Envoys' was better than the first one, but it still have problems like being a little too manic for my taste. The main plot with the escort mission I never really got into and it felt a little meh, but I liked the setting of the spaceport with the various aliens and how the two friends work as a duo (though I think that Boimler is made a little too incompetent, while Mariner is super competent and solves every problem I'm not too much of a fan of. I like flawed characters). I did like the conflict with Boimler feeling useless and Mariner cooking up a scheme to make him feel better (using a Ferengi contact) was a nice gesture, but I would have liked it more if it was a real criminal and Boimler saving the day as Mariner was just too arrogant about her knowledge, but I did like what there was. Rutherford's subplot of switching divisions from engineering but ending up back there was much better; I like the character more now and it was a pretty nice and fun story overall.

    'Temporal Edict' was pretty decent. I liked the "buffer time" plot (which poke fun at the Scotty Time trope) with it being removed to increase productivity by captain Freeman to satisfy her ego which keeps everyone working constant long hours (while Boimler had no problems). Ransom and Mariner on an mission to the planet of the crystal-obsessed reptilian aliens but starting a war as the peace crystal had accidentally been switched with a piece of wood, being captured and having to fight the giant champion was entertaining ("crystals!" made me chuckle and Ransom using "Kirk Fu" during his fight was amusing); I really like the dynamic of the two (and that Mariner didn't solve the conflict for once, made her more likeable). Nice climax with the aliens attacking the ship and everyone being too occupied and tired to properly fight back until buffer time is reinstated. The ending(s) were pretty nice, especially the Chief O'Brien bit (a fan favorite character).

    Overall, its not a bad show even though it hasn't reached its full potential yet. I really think everyone is too hard on it as I see it torn apart by fans almost all the time and says its absolutely terrible. It's three-four episodes in so everyone should give it time, but then again, every new 'Star Trek' after the original series has gotten a lot of hate when it starts, even the best ones.
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    Temporial Edict was good. Not as good as Envoys but there were moments I liked especially the fight between Ransom and the Vindor. Productivity is futile on the ship.

    Moist Vessel is probably my favorite so far. It's hilariously funny throughout and it's nice to see Mariner work out with her mom when the ship is in crisis. The subplot with Tendi ascending starts out a bit lame but then becomes pretty funny especially as the guy ends up ascending painfully in the end. Again this is a sitcom but it's also about character dynamics. I'm sure this could be one of my favorite newer adult animated shows by the end of the season.

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    I watched 'Moist Vessel' the other day and it was a pretty good one. Best one thus far to me as well and I think it shows that the series is improving bit by bit.

    The setup with the generational ship with its terraforming abilities being discovered was a good one and led into the nice climax, the main story with captain Freeman trying to get Mariner to demand a transfer to another ship by subjecting her to a promotion (which means much responsibility for the womanchild) and they ultimately having to work together was enjoyable . The subplot with Tendi being desperate to befriend the guy whose ascension ritual she ruined by accident was fun (it almost made her a little unlikeable, but I did like the fact hat she cannot stand not being friends with anyone, plus the finale with the ascension was funny. The koala bit was hilarious). Also good ending, but not sure about the show's dislike of continuity; resetting the relationship between Mariner & Freeman was kinda lame.

    Also, the animation really does impress me a lot here, with the terraforming effects throughout the ship. The character animation remains a bit wonky but the rest looks really good, especially with all the effects heavy stuff like that here. This is what I want more of from this modern animated trek: really use the animated medium to do some crazy stuff.

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    Cupid's Errant Arrow​

    Not as good as last week's but this was not bad either. The subplot in my opinion was more fun. It was just Rutherford and Tendi trying to compete for a T88 but then they find out that they both won but are transferring to the Vancouver. I like their friendship bond seen over the last few episodes, but I hope they interact with Brad and Beckett more.



    The main story with Beckett getting suspiscious of Brad's "girlfriend" was alright. Beckett has always been known to jump to conclusions. There's a good explanation of that from her flashback, as she lost one of her closest friends as a result. However, I think the "twist" at the end of the second act of most sitcoms wasn't that great either. While it was nice to see a satisfying conclusion for Beckett, Brad Boilmer gets the end of the stick again, and don't you want the guy to just actually win for a night (he did in Envoys, which is why I liked that episode more)? The twist is basically "Beckett Mariner jumps to conclusions and she doesn't really get any consequences for it." I hope we do see more of Barbara again sometime though.

    3.5/5

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    Terminal Provocations

    When Rutherford was fighting Badgey it was sweet when he was just using the program to impress Tendi. “I mean look at her. She’s so cute.” I wonder if she heard that.

    I liked this episode had a lot of action but the c-plot wasn’t really necessary though It did serve as a resolution for the A and B. Not really much to say except that there was a lot of fun action and adventure in this episode even if it was a bit over the place.

    Still I wish they would mix the characters up or give Rutherford and Tendi an A-plot.

    4/5

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    Been enjoying this show, but Damn this show was review bombed on iMDB just like Bless the Harts was on day 1. Funny is both shows are animated by Titmouse.

    And seriously one review of this show said Star Trek meets Family Guy. Not even fucking close. This show has great character dynamics and heart. Modern Family Guy is mean-spirited and cruel. I mean in a recent episode when Meg fakes her own death, everyone at school starts to pity Chris and he becomes popular. When he finds Meg, he kidnaps her and leaves Meg to fucking die so he could be popular. I hated him after that and I realized I should stop caring about the show. Then again, some reviews thought Bless the Harts was a Family Guy knockoff and that was totally false as well.

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    While I'm not really a big fan of animated spinoffs from live action shows, it is nowhere near as bad as family guy.
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    Another couple of reviews coming in.

    'Cupid's Errant Arrow​' I thought was alright at best. The main plot with Mariner & Boimler was kinda bland and pretty much this typical romance cringe comedy. I liked Boimler having a girlfriend (Barbara) & it was kinda amusing to see Mariner being so sure that Barbara was some shapeshifting parasite (but thinking it was the only reason Boimler would have a girlfriend was pretty crappy); still an okay-ish plot with some nice bits, though it was a little predictable in the end, Boimler getting the short end of the stick was underservedly mean & Mariner being in the right again was meh. The subplot for Rutherford & Tendi fanboying/fangirling out about the Vancouver but eventually not wanting to be transferred by the chief engineer was better, though them being jerks to the latter by blackmailing him into giving them a free T-88 scanner (and then stealing a whole supply)I could have done without. I did really like the bridge crew's plot with captain Freeman in an conflict with the alien leader (and the twist was pretty funny).

    'Terminal Provocations' was maybe the best one so far. Here the plotlines clicked fairly well. Mariner & Boimlers story where they get into trouble with ensign Fletcher who looks to be cool but is really neurotic and insecure was pretty fun (their relationship was maybe at its best thus far here, plus Fletcher was pretty amusing with his kinda goofy personality. The computer core starting to become sentient and alive made it more interesting and enjoyable), the one with Rutherford & Tendi experiencing a holodeck malfunction (a Trek staple) and Badgey (a sentient starfleet combadge) becoming murderous was very enjoyable (maybe my favorite part, character developing & Badgey was pretty amusing) & the C-story with the bridge crew in this tug-of-war with the crew of an alien salvaging ship was nice as well & tied well into the main story in an entertaining way. Good one.

    Slowly but steadily I feel the show is starting to improve by now and if they keep things up, I'm sure the next season will be pretty good. I too hope they'll switch things up, not only giving Rutherford & Tendi main focus but also switching character pairing ups, maybe even between the lower decks gang and the bidge crew (maybe even give one of the latter the lead role and the LD gang supporting parts), as right now it does feel a little stale with the same setup (Mariner & Boimler's A-plot, Rutherford & Tendi's B-plot & the bridge crew's C-plot, all with some slight variations here and there).

    I also think it's pathetic with all the negative review bombing online and picking out the smallest and dumbest of things to complain about, but it seems like that is so for every modern Trek show.

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    Much Ado About Boimler

    This was pretty good. Not as good as last weeks but it kept the 2-plot sitcom rules we know to expect. I liked Ramsey and Mariner’s friendship and how they can hang out but not really work with each other. Ramsey rejecting Ransom was pretty funny and so was Tendi’s obliviousness to not knowing how real dogs act. And yeah the farm being real was kinda expected but I found it funny how not being a freak meant they sent you back home.

    Can’t wait for next week’s though cause seems like all four of them are together for a bit?

    3.5/5

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    Veritas​

    I did like all the silly stories going on, especially Rutherford's cyborg programs crashing him, and Tendi lying and saying it was badass. I thought the "party" reveal at the end was a bit out of place though. Overall, it's a solid episode that builds more into its characters, but not exactly what I was hoping for when I meant that the four main ensigns are together.

    3.5/5

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    'Much Ado About Boimler' was OK. I liked Tendi creating a dog artificially & Boimler ending up in in an half-phased state was nice too, but when the two stories joined on the subplot with the trip to a treatment center for Starfleet "freaks" (on an dark, gloomy ship) they got less interesting. The Tendi story got way minimized & Boimler's plot was predictable and didn't like being a pathetic tool, but I liked the subversion of the dystopic plot actually being optimistic, the dog's farewell & Boimler having to leave as he's not a freak anymore (and the joke with "Anthony" made me chuckle). The Cerritos having a change of bridge crew as the main one is out on a mission & Mariner becoming first officer to her old friend Ramsey but being incompetent was a nice one, but then they end with her being suddenly super competent in a crisis before going back to her usual self again (I still enjoyed the climax with the energy being aboard the derelict ship and the rescue). My problem with this episode was really that there was just too many things going for 22 minutes which made it feel overstuffed.

    'Veritas' was much better. This one had one plot (the main gang put on trial on an alien world with and overzealous alien, Clar, questioning them on an secret map and something covert the crew was doing and them each giving their own story; Mariner about her and Boimler's bridge duty, Rutherford's system rebooting his mind continously, Tendi brought onto a mission to Romulus & Boimler talking about how that even the bridge crew is fallible) and these were fun with good jokes (the bridge scene, the Gorn wedding, the tacky censorship in Tendi's story were all good ones, as was Q, with John DeLancie reprising his popular character) & Boimler's speech was neat (good with stepping up and deliver the final punchline instead of being the punching bag). The twist of it all being Clar's party was little forced, but still amused me with Clar being a jerk complaining about them ruining his party and them defending their stance. I also liked the end scene between the bridge crew and the main gang (plus Q shows up again). It was pretty good, being fairly well paced and the humor hit better.

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