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    Bob's Burgers (now with ten seasons and a movie)




    I know there was a thread on this some time back, can't find it now (search function not finding it at the moment).

    Kinda forgot all about it until I was watching the World Series and they did some real quick promos. Just a shot of the burger joint and some dialogue. It shocked me..All of the sudden hearing Coach Mcguirk's voice during a baseball game. Loved that character.

    Jim Dauterive from KOTH is working on the show with Loren Bouchard. It's meant to fill in the gap created by KOTH's absence.

    Really looking forward to this. Could be somewhat of a surprise hit. It'll be a nice break from MacFarlane and Groening.
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    This show looks interesting. Jon Benjamin seems like a good fit for the role and hopefully it's more of a KOTH in terms of style of comedy. Hopefully it can last a while too(if it's good that is).

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    actually kinda excited for this, but worried, FOX doesn't give many chances and if the show doesn't initially do good - bye bye
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    Personally, I think they should be premiering this cartoon after the Super Bowl so they could also show a new episode of the Simpsons after the event too. But No! FOX has to keep on overpromoting Glee!

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    I didn't know real men watched Glee.

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    This is both exciting and incredibly worrying. It's nice to see them branching out into non-Seth toons though.

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    There's some formidable talent behind this show, but to be honest if a show is set around a typically family unit...I just can't watch it. Period. I'm tired of these animated family sitcoms and they need to stop. All the possibilities with animation - or hell even just writing - and the best anyone can come up with is the same formula The Simpsons already perfectly 20 years ago? Ugh. Of course I get that it's probably because of network insistence, but that just doesn't matter to me anymore. I just can't watch another show with that formula, animated or otherwise.

    The best animated sitcoms to come out in the wake of The Simpsons have NOT been other family sitcoms.
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    I'm with you on this DTB. There's so much you could do with an animated sitcom. There are way too many family ones already. I mean South Park, Futurama, The Venture Bros, Archer and a few others do the non-family thing successfully so why is no-one else trying it? I'll give this show a chance and everything but a new non-family Animated Sitcom would be a breath of fresh air right now.

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    Saw a commercial of it recently. Was pretty hard to watch..but, can't really judge a show from commercials. Just gotta hope for the best.

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    I have to admit the family sitcom format has definitely become a detraction for new animated series' at this point. To play devil's advocate though I can sort of understand, since it's essentially playing it safe and in this climate they're probably less inclined to gamble. At the end of the day though it's still pretty much easy-moding it up. I don't really blame the writers and creators, I'm pretty sure they feel the same way too, the whole trend reeks of studio gatekeeper meddling. Some desire to make another Simpsons or Family Guy, in a short term minded mentality. I wonder just how long the trend can last, or maybe if it becomes the "norm" so much that some lucky series strikes it big by being different.

    But anyways in regards to this series, I'm giving it a chance because of many of the writers' Home Movies background, even if I have to suppress a desire to not like it off the bat because of aforementioned family sitcom drivel. Still though, even if the writing ends up being really witty and funny, based off of what I've seen so far I wonder if this kinda awkward humor's really going to be able to make it on primetime Fox.

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    Unless the commercials are using a different tone than the real series (which is definitely possible; promos usually cut straight to the punchlines), this show feels like it doesn't quite play off the awkwardness and slow speed Home Movies did. The higher elegance in animation I feel contributes partly to that.

    I don't understand why a family sitcom format is really necessary for the series; Fox should clearly predict that the show will cater to adult males and focus on attracting more of them. Women are not going to be tuning in to see what Bob's wife is up to. Maybe Fox is starting to realize other ideas are acceptable with the development of Napoleon Dynamite and *shudder* Tiny Monsters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiyosuki View Post
    I have to admit the family sitcom format has definitely become a detraction for new animated series' at this point. To play devil's advocate though I can sort of understand, since it's essentially playing it safe and in this climate they're probably less inclined to gamble. At the end of the day though it's still pretty much easy-moding it up. I don't really blame the writers and creators, I'm pretty sure they feel the same way too, the whole trend reeks of studio gatekeeper meddling. Some desire to make another Simpsons or Family Guy, in a short term minded mentality. I wonder just how long the trend can last, or maybe if it becomes the "norm" so much that some lucky series strikes it big by being different.
    I agree with this. But I also find it odd when you consider what else is on television: (not counting plenty of classic shows)

    Futurama. It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia. The Office. 30 Rock. South Park. The Big Bang Theory. How I Met Your Mother. Community

    These are all successful sitcoms, and not one of them centers around a dopey dad, his dull housewife, and their 2-3 bratty kids. (Well, How I Met Your Mother debatably.) In fact, the only notable ones I can think of offhand that do are all four (awful) animated FOX shows. Even just amongst animated shows, most everything everywhere else does not follow this formula.

    There's plenty of successes out there - past and present - in comedies set at workplaces, in schools, in apartment buildings, etc. Which isn't to say that those don't all have their annoying cliches, but regardless, none of them are quite as tired as the increasingly dated "nuclear family" sitcom set-up.

    So while I understand that creators probably can't pitch shows to FOX (or any of the other major networks) without pitching it as "the next Family Guy," I just don't get why anymore. Outside of those whose main TV viewing is FOX every Sunday, everyone else has moved on.

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    Maybe animation is playing catch-up? Families were big in live action up until the mid-90s. Looking at it from Fox's perspective, the only animated shows of theirs that've been successes have been family-style shows (assuming they don't consider Futurama to have been a success). Most recently, they took in Sit Down, Shut Up, which was similarly unconventional...and it failed to pull in the numbers that Simpsons and the unholy MacFarlane trinity do.
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    Well, the failure of "Sit Down, Shut Up" wasn't really surprising considering the "Arrested Development" producers/creators already had a legacy of failure.

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    But really, I would guess that the failure of it was probably due to quality issues (from what I heard about the early episodes). And I think the Seth McFarlane shows have largely been successful because they have McFarlane's name attached.

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    Sit down, shut up was right trash

    Family sitcoms are still popular ( #1 show on tv 2 1/2 Men ; Best new sitcom last season MODERN FAMILY)

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    sit down, shut up got good after a while

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    but it was soooooooooooooooooooooo bad at the start. It just couldn't recover from that no matter how hard it tried.

    Futurama. It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia. The Office. 30 Rock. South Park. The Big Bang Theory. How I Met Your Mother. Community
    But most of these are live action. Futurama as we all know had to basically claw it's way back to the limelight, and South Park had a unique circumstance for being on a cable channel...being crazy cheap to make...and was practically sweating controversy when it landed so it had that.

    It's not easy to pitch animated show ideas to networks, a bit understandably maybe. I'm dead convinced a lot of these guys couldn't get an idea past pitching point at the moment unless it had a family. I'm guessing the mentality is that they want as broad an appeal as possible, and you can't get any broader than a dysfunctional family format love it or hate it. They're probably afraid that not enough people will relate with it, or even want to keep watching. Either that or family sitcoms are just easier to sell.

    So I don't know if its catch up per se as much as it is feeling like going outside the norm is a too much of a gamble, and with animation gambles are even less desired. I like to think that something not family sitcommy can find an audience for sure, and could definitely be good if given a chance it just hasn't really been done well often. I mean, looking at some non-family primetime shows that come to mind like Mission Hill, the Critic, aforementioned SDSU...they tended to be lacking a certain longevity, or something that kept you wanting to watch them even if they were basically great ideas. The Critic in particular like I ranted about in a huge post a million years ago basically suffered from repeating itself badly pretty soon into its run. As broad as this sounds I think they just have to find the right idea, and actually do it well.

    Unfortunately, even if we don't think so, a great many people in the US at least still basically see animation as a medium of limited uses. But then again most of the people judging this tend to be people of limited uses themselves.

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    I actually hope the show does have a different pacing than Home Movies. I really liked the last couple seasons of Home Movies - But it definitely didn't have enough mainstream appeal to succeed prime time on Fox. Whenever I try to show someone the show - Pretty much everyone hates it. It's a little too different and hard to get into.

    So I hope the dialogue is a little more "normal" versus the Home Movies model. I also hope the voice acting is solid and appealing. I really liked most of the Home Movies voice actors. Some really good voices, and some fairly terrible. I pretty much can't even watch Metapocalypse because some of the voices are just ridiculously bad.

    I'm really looking forward to the first episode and am crossing my fingers that it is entertaining and successful.

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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zcdt...06373&kw=b.o.b.


    Wow, more dislikes than likes. Didn't even really know that was possible (since most people searching for and watching something are there because they like it).

    Gotta say...Looking pretty darn terrible.

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    I don't have faith in this show. Not a single preview has made me laugh.

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    killing off American Dad for this turd is just sad.

    Why wouldn't Fox air Glee after the Super Bowl, by the way? It's all about audience retention... you have 100 million people watching your network for three hours, you want to make it four and you want that massive audience to fall for your network. How do you do that? Either by premiering something you think people will like (see Undercover Boss) or by showing a new episode of your strongest show (which has probably been off the air for 2 months). And, at this point, for better or worse, Glee is Fox's strongest property.

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    The real crime is The Cleveland Show is still on the air. I'm keeping my hopes up there for Bob's Burgers because I am a Home Movies fan and while this show looks like the more "staged and traditional" of the two, I still see Home Movies in it. Like in the link just posted, the kids cheering and Bob ordering, "Shut up" rings Coach McGurk blatantly criticizing the kids on the soccer field. I do have to admit, as sexist as it sounds, little girls are too annoying (see Running Wilde). As simply an experiment, I would like to see how the thumbs up/thumbs down would be on a similar video narrated by the boy of the family.

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    I don't know how I feel

    it feels different from the groening/macfarlane supersmug, in your face family sitcom template. it feels a little.... indie movie twee. nice change of pace for the overly macho "da boom/animation domination/whatever it's called now" block
    it looks like some kid's cheap flash cartoon
    I really like the rabbit ear girl's voice
    h. jon benjamin is hella overused now and his voice doesn't really match up with the character design. I can't really buy coach mcguirk/archer's voice coming out of this wispy dude

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    Yeah benjamin's voice definitely doesn't fit this character looks wise so much, but I think it's kind of a drag how so many both here, and elsewhere are ready to want this thing to die already based off of a few previews that are each less than 2 minutes long. Nothing new or not made by McFarlane is ever going to take off if people are just so hell bent on killing anything that doesn't have yellow characters or Mcfarlane's B^U faces on it.

    I just like that it looks different than the in-your-face, insta comedy style that the Sethy shows and later Simpsons have had for so long. That crap gets the cheap laughs during previews yeah, but come on do we need anymore of that crap? Just look at Sit down Shut Up and Neighbors from Hell, they tried to play it up like that and it just didn't work, and it looks like it could even be going out of its way to be a direct contrast to that sort of thing with a less ADD afflicted sort of pace. Yeah it looks ugly...it probably can't be helped at the moment, yes its a dysfunctional family format, and yes I wish it wasn't replacing American Dad (which I think is a large source of emnity for this thing, but that's not this show's fault.), and further yes...realistically it probably won't last but I'm sort of interested to see what it's capable of for at least a few episodes before I make any premature judgements. It seems like the kind of humor you can't get across easily in previews.

    It's first episodes are gonna be crucial though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiyosuki View Post
    Mcfarlane's B^U faces
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiyosuki View Post
    Yeah benjamin's voice definitely doesn't fit this character looks wise so much, but I think it's kind of a drag how so many both here, and elsewhere are ready to want this thing to die already based off of a few previews that are each less than 2 minutes long. Nothing new or not made by McFarlane is ever going to take off if people are just so hell bent on killing anything that doesn't have yellow characters or Mcfarlane's B^U faces on it.

    I just like that it looks different than the in-your-face, insta comedy style that the Sethy shows and later Simpsons have had for so long. That crap gets the cheap laughs during previews yeah, but come on do we need anymore of that crap? Just look at Sit down Shut Up and Neighbors from Hell, they tried to play it up like that and it just didn't work, and it looks like it could even be going out of its way to be a direct contrast to that sort of thing with a less ADD afflicted sort of pace. Yeah it looks ugly...it probably can't be helped at the moment, yes its a dysfunctional family format, and yes I wish it wasn't replacing American Dad (which I think is a large source of emnity for this thing, but that's not this show's fault.), and further yes...realistically it probably won't last but I'm sort of interested to see what it's capable of for at least a few episodes before I make any premature judgements. It seems like the kind of humor you can't get across easily in previews.

    It's first episodes are gonna be crucial though.
    Yeah I agree with all of this. The voice acting is kind of an issue since this voice has been 100% identical across four shows' characters now (and Archer, Coach, and Bob are all main characters, and even Carl is appearing more on FG now). The only real reason I'm holding out hope is because it looks like a different "type" of cartoon is getting a chance on Fox again. Sit Down, Shut Up was different, but it was definitely in-your-face. I liked Goode Family's short run. That show, and KOTH, are funny in way more subtle ways. Something more low-key and a bit strange with a less polished sort of look.
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    You know I don't see what was so subtle about Goode personally, especially in comparison to KotH. It seemed like such an overexaggerated take on an eco-conscientious family.The problem with Goode Family at least to me is that ultimately it just had cripplingly uninteresting characters and ideas. At least the Hills had Hank's thing with not catching on to the changing times, Bobby's weirdness, and some of the side characters like Dale being entertaining. Something about every character in the goode family was just...bleh to me. And a show centering completely around a "green" family just didn't seem like it could go anywhere though the uninteresting everything certainly helped.

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    Yea, IMO The Goode Family was just painfully boring and uninteresting. KOTH on the other hand had GREAT characters with amazing personality. However, the last few seasons of KOTH felt VERY similar to The Goode Family (since it was ran by the same exec producers). The last few seasons of KOTH were incredibly dull and boring IMO. Had Mike Judge (or Greg Daniels) been a larger part of The Goode Family, I think it had HUGE potential. Basically could have been a liberal version of KOTH (KOTH sorta mocked rednecks early on, TGF would have worked from the other angle)

    Greg Daniels and Mike Judge are what really made KOTH. I really doubt anyone else who worked on the show is going to go off and do some really amazing show.

    The voice acting so far for Bob's Burgers is defintely way too weird. Even if it develops and the audience adapts to it after a few episodes - It doesn't matter. A show has to be at least pallatable to a mainstream audience in the first showing. Anyone who has seen the previews has been incredibly turned off by them. I know it's hard to judge a show by previews...but they also usually show highlights from episodes.. So in other words, those terrible preview moments are probably as good as it gets.

    Home Movies had a lot of issues IMO. I thought it was an enjoyable show the last couple seasons - but starting out, I can hardly blame UPN for cancelling it. The show was basically unwatchable with the horrible squiggle vision along with the absurd voice acting. Really the best part of the show by far IMO was Coach Mcgurk. I might get a chuckle from the kids making movies once in a while..but nothing really brilliant. The show would have never made it on big network primetime.

    Bob's Burgers seems a bit like the Home Movies start to me.. It's probably going to start out painfully terrible, end up slowly turning more entertaining, then cacelled.

    This sucks..I really want the show to be good. Can't think of the last time a new show came out that was actually very good and had a really long run. Wish we could have another KOTH, or Simpsons in our lifetime..but probably not likely.
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