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    I still think the calendar was also a friendly nod toward the Family Guy series for mentioning Futurama in the Stewie Untold Story DVD

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    Just watched it. I feel a bit overwhelmed, I'm not sure exactly what to think of it. It felt perhaps just a bit too overdone. Too many callbacks, although that was pretty much a given. I think the whole thing would have really benefitted if they had left out the whole conflict with Hermes. Among everything going on, it felt tacked on and unnecessary. Well, I guess it had a purpose - only to show Lars that he was doomed to be killed.

    The nerd in me is still trying to piece together all the paradoxes, and how much, if at all, they affected the continuity of the show.

    Here is something I thought of. Unless you consider Fry's return to the past as an alternate universe, the ending to Jurassic Bark no longer makes sense. However, Luck of the Fryish still does. Yancy tells Bender (wait, why was no one in the past scared of a robot?) that Fry has been away at sea for a while. In Luck of the Fryish, all Yancy does is say he named his son after Fry, whom he misses. You could say that Yancy misses Fry since Fry is away at sea?

    But yeah, I think I'm gonna have to watch this again to get a better feel before rating it.

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    *SPOILERS!*

    It sure is great to see Fry, Leela, Bender, Farnsworth, Zoidberg, Amy, and Hermes again in full force after a four-year hiatus. Thankfully, the movie picked up where the show left off without a hitch--same voices, same quality animation, same style of humor and semi-complicated storylines.

    Overall, I thought the movie was very well-done. The pacing was a bit fast at many points, but it only shows how little, if any, "filler" was in the whole thing. For the most part, the story was lengthy and complicated and felt deserving of a feature-length "episode." It was quite clever, as well, tying in various past plot elements into the episode's flow (Seymour's fast-fossilization) or in-jokes for the fans (Bender blowing up the city while Fry was frozen). And while I had the major plot twist spoiled for me before I watched it (a li'l shout out to Toli for that one!), I still greatly enjoyed the flow of events and the many layers of time-travel.

    Characterizations were great. Leela was a bit uncaring, seemingly rubbing Fry's nose in her relationship with Lars, but was otherwise handled very well. Bender was in classic form, with his unique brand of arrogance ("How could you say it's OUR fault?" "It ain't easy. It just proves how great I am."), evilness ("I'm a criminal mastermind!" Sawing off the professor's hand), and empathy ("Fry's gone and it's all my fault! I blew him up like a midget in a microwave!").

    Despite the title of the movie, the real star of the show was Fry, who partook in an Odyssey that made my head spin. Even after all this time, the show was still able to capture a unique angle on the Fry/Leela relationship: apparently Leela's true love is an older, more mature, more confident Fry. While Parasites Lost asked what if Fry were someone Leela loved, but that someone was different than who he actually was, and Devil's Hands explored the possibility of Fry having the capability of showing Leela how much he loved her, Bender's Big Score shows what happens if a wiser, confident, mature Fry met current-day Leela. It's Fry without the qualities Leela finds off-putting, and it's her true love. [announcer voice]Interesting stuff![/announcer voice]

    Amy, Zoidberg, Farnsworth and Hermes were all handled well, with Amy's antidepressant running gag, Zoidberg being a somewhat competent doctor for once, Farnsworth keeping his anger/racism towards the nudists, and Hermes having his biggest role since he requisitioned his groove back. Nudar and the other nudist aliens weren't handled as successfully--while they were intended to be annoying, they were still annoying. And pretty gross.

    Which brings me to my first real complaint--the show seemed a bit tackier than before. Yeah, lack of censors and all that, and they could've gone a lot further, but the surplus of penis and butt jokes, as well as the whole orgasmic "sprunger" thing and pretty much anything involving the nudists, were a bit low-brow compared to the usual sense of humor on the show (which explains why I'm not a big fan of Spanish Fry). Not that most of these gags weren't funny--I particularly like "Your tail is wagging," and "It's like looking into a smelly mirror"--there just seemed to be too much of them, particularly in the first half.

    That aside, the gags were mostly very funny. The humor level seemed on par with an average episode of Futurama, which is quite good, and the sheer number of secondary characters involved was pure, delicious fan-service. The only significant ones I don't remember seeing are Calculon, Mom, Mom's boys, and Roberto, though I could've missed any number of those in the crowd scenes.

    I liked the meta-references (hey, they had to get back at Fox somehow, and I loved how many uses the executive powder had..."Ah, that soothes the fire"). The first song was pretty decent, though it sort of lost the melody a couple times. I liked the crew snapping at Leela, and Hermes lamenting about his "Jamaican fat." The second song was on par with the show's better numbers, I thought, with the Neptunians providing a catchy argumentative harmony. And for whatever reason, Chanukah Zombie's verse all felt extremely Matt Groening/Life in Hell to me.

    There are some moments that bother fans, such as the rewriting of Jurassic Bark and Luck of the Fryrish. It doesn't mess up the episodes for me--I just consider them in prior timelines that haven't been "fixed up." And as for Nibbler talking and the crew's general lack of reaction...honestly, it's not that far-fetched to see a weird-looking alien creature talking considering they live with one (and Amy's dating one!).

    All things considered, a bright return to form for Futurama. Well-told story, mostly good gags throughout, and very nice characterizations. I'd say overall, it's slightly above-average for the show, which is more than I hoped. Nice job, cast and crew, and I can't wait for the next one!

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    Quote Originally Posted by NoOneFamous
    The nerd in me is still trying to piece together all the paradoxes, and how much, if at all, they affected the continuity of the show.

    Here is something I thought of. Unless you consider Fry's return to the past as an alternate universe, the ending to Jurassic Bark no longer makes sense. However, Luck of the Fryish still does. Yancy tells Bender (wait, why was no one in the past scared of a robot?) that Fry has been away at sea for a while. In Luck of the Fryish, all Yancy does is say he named his son after Fry, whom he misses. You could say that Yancy misses Fry since Fry is away at sea?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NoOneFamous
    (wait, why was no one in the past scared of a robot?)
    "Cheesy (New Years') costume?" And I suppose after, like, twelve years, news would have been spread around the world and people would be kind of more used to it... And the first thing we saw of Bender after New Years' was 11 months later, so I guess that's an adequate amount of time. It's still kind of odd, though.

    I'm kind of curious about how the paradoxes correct themselves by killing the time clone, since technically, we're all doomed anyway, and there doesn't seem to be much of a time limit on how long it takes for the time clone to get killed off - Hermes' body lasted a fair amount of time and Lars went on for over 1000 years. As long as the time clone dies, the paradox is corrected - could one ever die of simple, natural causes?

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    Finally, I get to watch this. :silly:

    And overall, I was very pleased. The first half was a little weak, but it really picked up from there. Great characterizations (and also, cheers to the voice cast, who were all top-notch); and Bender was, of course, hilarious in the movie. But it was Fry who really shined here. His "odyssey" (I guess you could say) was very touching and he really showed some maturity, especially near the end. The whole Lars/Leela/Fry plot was touching and simultaneously intriguing.

    I was impressed at how complex and multi-layered the time travel and paradox stuff were, because in the series it was fairly to the point. While it did leave my mind a little foggy, it kept me interested throughout the movie. Most of the gags were good, though the first half, as I said before, had a few tacky/cheap jokes. But the rest of the movie was really funny. I loved the Al Gore cameos. XD
    I liked the songs, actually I liked the first song better than the second. And I loved the callbacks (I liked seeing Seymour again; I don't feel it cheapened Jurassic Bark, at least for me)

    My only real complaints are that a few of the jokes were a bit cheap, the Hermes conflict was amusing but I could've done without it (Labarbara and Barbados Slim really annoyed me). Oh, and Nudar and his cohorts were also pretty annoying and disgusting. But they're gone now, I assume.
    All-all, it was really well-done and a great return for Futurama. Can't wait for the next movie.
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    This was kind of underwhelming overall, but that's due to my expectations. Really it's right on par with earlier episodes. In fact, it's like there was no break at all. It feels like it has the exact tone as season 4, the characters are the same, nothing feels off about it...this is a good thing. The jokes were also on par with earlier episodes, which is to say good but not great. Story was a bit too much for me...I followed everything fine but it was too involved I thought. I think I'll just leave it at that since I was never that into Futurama, more of a casual fan. 3/5
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    Re-watched it the other day after about a week... holds up well. I tried not to think too hard about the time travel and stuff like why his brother still named his kid after Fry cuz it hurt my brain.

    On repeat viewing the musical numbers are still... weak. I guess I get the style of music they're trying to spoof but the songs just are not catchy at all and the lyrics just don't seem that witty.

    Still recommend every fan pick this up and I'm stoked for the next DVD and the eventual return to television
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    4/5 I really dug this film, and I was surprised because I didn't think the last season of the show held up with the earlier ones. Great humor, plenty of emotion, and a sweet ending to tie it all together. I wish Zapf Branigan got more time, so hopefully he's featured a lot more in the second film. The packaging for this thing sucks. Here's a picture from the DVDtalk forums..



    the disc sits in the cardboard slit, so it's prone to scratches. maybe when all 4 films come out they'll do a special packaging for all of them. the cover is badass though.

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    Really liked the story, jokes, dialogues, and all of the callbacks. I was pretty disappointed with the 2 musical numbers, they just seemed way too forced and nowhere near as good as the songs used in the original series, aside from that I gave it a 4/5 and am still anticipating the other films
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    I watched this movie again last night with my roommates. They loved it, too.
    Quote Originally Posted by Morbot
    I tried not to think too hard about the time travel and stuff like why his brother still named his kid after Fry cuz it hurt my brain.
    Well, Yancy named his son after Fry because he missed him. He could have missed him because he went out to sea and didn't come back. As long as Yancy's son was born after Fry went out to search for Leelu, it still makes sense.

    EDIT: Damn, NoOneFamous beat me to it.

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    Finally got mine! Was a little slow to finally pick it up..I was SHOCKED that it came in such a crappy cardboard case. You gotta be kidding me..

    And Im not the type of person that cares about box art type stuff. That means nothing to me, but even this kinda bothered me..I mean cardboard?? Talk about dissapointing. I was surprised I hadnt heard more complaints of that from the graphics/animation nerds.

    Oh well.. Ill try to watch it tomorrow. Woohoo!
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    The packaging is carbon neutral, that's why.

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    I watched the other day and loved it. The movie really drew from the best episodes of the series (Time Keeps on Slipping, Farnsworth Parabox), by taking a crazy completely convoluted sci-fi premise and running with it the whole way through.

    Comedy was good, but not the best Futurama has done. There were a couple of bad jokes that felt more suited to recent Simpsons (Barbados Slim's chest flexing on their own, a lot of the tired spamming-related jokes). I can't think of many one-liners I'll be quoting years from now like in many Futurama episodes. Still, lots of hilarity abound (cheap well-deserved shots at the old FOX execs, Robot Santa dancing, Al Gore shooting deadly lasers, Chaunukah Zombie, the tail wagging).

    It seems most of the events of The Devil's Hands were forgotten, though not surprising as pretty much every season 4 episode ended with Fry winning Leela over, only to be forgotten the next episode. It makes Leela look like a manipulative bitch who leads on Fry repeatedly to suit her own ego. Bitch.

    The continuity was often absurd, yet briliant. I loved how Fry was able read the binary code on his ass correctly using the mirror, since the binary code was a palindrome (1 through 6, mirrored). It's something that could very easily have been an error on the writers' part, but accounted for.

    Overall, much more entertaining that The Simpsons Movie, despite feeling less like an actual film.

    5/5!

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    Quote Originally Posted by StarskyMaxwell
    Yup. For once, a FG shot that was actually clever and subtle.

    Plus, it's a 2000 calendar, so it pretty much fits. I'm guessing the post-renewal calendars must be about two pages long.

    Okay, now THAT was cheap. Sorry folks, can't help myself sometimes.
    You're actually pretty right. I was in a checkout line today and decided to glance at Family Guy's 2008 calendar. Dear Lord, it was the most uninspired thing I've ever seen. Each page shows an old stock picture of a character coupled with a random quote. The sad thing is, the mock Family Guy poster in Fry's room actually featured a pretty clever image (Peter as baby new year, drinking beer from a baby bottle, and Stewie as the passing old year). Futurama actually gave Family Guy too much credit.

    Anyway, back on topic: I read the "Bender's Big Score" script on the DVD last night and this morning. It's really interesting to spot the differences, like the deleted lottery subplot (which was mentioned on the commentary), plus some pretty big changes in pacing toward the end. All the changes in the final movie were definitely for the better, but it's still interesting to read the stuff that didn't quite make it.

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    Oh..right...uh I don't feel like going through a giant review so I'll just hit a few points.

    All the cancellation jokes in the beginning nearly wanted to make me cringe save for the first joke of Farnsworth informing them they're fired.

    Nude aliens creeped me out.

    I was expecting all the time travelling to make the story confusing but it worked out fine on my first viewing. Guess it's because it works out in a somewhat similar way to the time travelling devices used in HP3.

    Not the slightest bit bothered about 'Jurassic Bark' or 'Luck of the Fryrish.' I just enjoyed them working those storylines in since they'd be most affected to begin with.

    Overall, I enjoyed it. Irritated a bit with Bender in the title when he didn't have nearly that big of a part, but I'll get over it. Happy enough with this movie to give it a 4/5.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chou
    Finally, I get to watch this. :silly:

    And overall, I was very pleased. The first half was a little weak, but it really picked up from there. Great characterizations (and also, cheers to the voice cast, who were all top-notch); and Bender was, of course, hilarious in the movie. But it was Fry who really shined here. His "odyssey" (I guess you could say) was very touching and he really showed some maturity, especially near the end. The whole Lars/Leela/Fry plot was touching and simultaneously intriguing.

    I was impressed at how complex and multi-layered the time travel and paradox stuff were, because in the series it was fairly to the point. While it did leave my mind a little foggy, it kept me interested throughout the movie. Most of the gags were good, though the first half, as I said before, had a few tacky/cheap jokes. But the rest of the movie was really funny. I loved the Al Gore cameos. XD
    I liked the songs, actually I liked the first song better than the second. And I loved the callbacks (I liked seeing Seymour again; I don't feel it cheapened Jurassic Bark, at least for me)

    My only real complaints are that a few of the jokes were a bit cheap, the Hermes conflict was amusing but I could've done without it (Labarbara and Barbados Slim really annoyed me). Oh, and Nudar and his cohorts were also pretty annoying and disgusting. But they're gone now, I assume.
    All-all, it was really well-done and a great return for Futurama. Can't wait for the next movie.
    I basically agree with everything said in this post. Thanks, Chou, you saved me from writing a long review. Anyways, the movie was great, despite a few things, which Chou has already mentioned. I'd give it a 4/5, not the best thing Futurama has ever put out, but still very good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kup'o nog
    Oh..right...uh I don't feel like going through a giant review so I'll just hit a few points.

    All the cancellation jokes in the beginning nearly wanted to make me cringe save for the first joke of Farnsworth informing them they're fired.

    Nude aliens creeped me out.

    I was expecting all the time travelling to make the story confusing but it worked out fine on my first viewing. Guess it's because it works out in a somewhat similar way to the time travelling devices used in HP3.

    Not the slightest bit bothered about 'Jurassic Bark' or 'Luck of the Fryrish.' I just enjoyed them working those storylines in since they'd be most affected to begin with.

    Overall, I enjoyed it. Irritated a bit with Bender in the title when he didn't have nearly that big of a part, but I'll get over it. Happy enough with this movie to give it a 4/5.

    How can you dislike the cancellation jokes? They were purposely recognizable, but worked into the script ingeniously. Then after that, they drop it. Except the Executive powder.

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    They weren't very ingenious to me. Just obvious and not entirely amusing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FlameInNeedOfASun
    How can you dislike the cancellation jokes? They were purposely recognizable, but worked into the script ingeniously. Then after that, they drop it. Except the Executive powder.
    I thought they were okay, but I can see where Kupomog/Kuponog would cringe at them. They went on and on with it, and overused the joke, and the joke was only a little funny to begin with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kup'o nog
    They weren't very ingenious to me. Just obvious and not entirely amusing.
    and a tad overdone, i think. the nice jabs fit the trailer but it reminded me too much of family guy's un-cancellation jokes.

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    Can any of you explain this? Isn't Lars the cronological Fry, and the Fry that lives - isn't that the copy?

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    No... Okay, so when Fry travels back in time for his lukewarm pizza, he seems a copy of himself kicking the explosive Bender in (Fry 2). They talk, and Fry finishes off his pizza, taunting Fry 2. Fry 2 storms off, calling Fry a pig. Fry doesn't care, and then realizes that his frozen self still has plenty of money, which is when he tries to get it and subsequently gets frozen yet again. Meanwhile, Bender comes back, and sees a Fry waiting at the elevator - that's Fry 2, who previously stormed off. That's the one who goes back to Panucci and asks for a living space, and spends twelve years of his life in the 21st century, and then becomes Lars. Fry unfreezes and shows up at his own vigil.

    Since Fry is the one that originally went back in time, that makes him the original, and not the copy resulting from time travel. The copy is the doomed one, and since Fry 2 was the one who stormed off, he's the one who lived in the 21st century and then became Lars.

    Hopefully that made sense...?

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    Right. Besides, the Fry that lived couldn't have been the copy because time travel duplicates are always doomed. That's why Hermes' time duplicate body was destined to be destroyed at the wedding. When Lars/Fry-2 saw that, he knew that he was doomed, too, since he was secretly a time travel duplicate. That's why he called off the wedding and later sacrificed himself to stop Nudar.

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    I finally saw this and I just have to say that it was so much fun. The entire death star battle had me pumped with excitement. 4/5 stars.

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    I'm still confused... isn't the Fry that calls the "new" Fry a pig the same one that later returns to the lab to eat the Pizza? So which one becomes Lars?

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    Fry 2 never returned to the lab for pizza (which is gone by that point anyway thanks to Fry).

    Okay, so first, when Fry goes to see Pannuci he asks him for food, doesn't get any due to his lack of 20th century money, and leaves the store again. When Fry 2 goes in to see Pannuci, he doesn't leave. He goes straight from announcing that he's back to Pannuci to asking for a living space, whereas Fry went from telling Pannuci that he's back to asking for food.

    So yeah, Fry 2 never went back for pizza - he's a different Fry and the actions of the original Fry after creating the duplicate Fry have no effect on the duplicate Fry.

    Since Fry 2 asked for the living space, he's the one who stayed in the past for 12 years and became Lars. Since the original Fry was simply interested in food and then got frozen, he went straight back to the future without interacting with anybody else aside from Seymour and Pannuci.

    ... Did that make sense?

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    Ah that makes sense. So because Fry 2 saw that Fry 1 had already gone back for the pizza, Fry 2 doesn't return to the lab, and thats how he becomes a duplicate?

    That was the one part of the movie that confused the heck out of me, even though I'm looking into it way more than I should.

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    Just watched it yesterday. First of all, I think the title and the poster were kind of misleading for me since Bender is not the only main one who was involved in the story... I saw more Fry than Bender in the movie IMO, but that's cool.

    I won't get too descriptive. All I remember is that there were some good gags, some cheesy ("But your tail was wagging happily!") and the plot was just great. I didn't expect the plot turnedo out to be this good when I saw the trailer... I'll have to watch it again to keep the track on which Fry became Lars and which Fry went back to future or I'll just be a nice guy and read the posts above.

    Characteristics were exceptional, I don't think I need to go over any of that... Oh, and there were some great past references (Michelle's new boyfriend, Yhency's son, Seymour, etc.) that reminisces some moments in classic Futurama. That was cool

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