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    I was wondering, does anyone else ever get the impression Milhouse is Greoning's personal favorite character? I know he usually dances around the question of who's his favorite character (although he's admitted to liking Apu, Agnes, Ralph, and Bart particularly on occasion).

    I just notice sometimes that he inserts Milhouse into conversation, jokes, or interviews any chance he gets...like in the commentary ("I'm Matt Greoning, creator of Milhouse". lol), or the "Its Milhouse's night" comment about the film. If he isn't his favorite, he certainly is a character Matt gets a lot of amusement from.

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    I would imagine it's hard to decide on a favorite character on your own show. I personally don't have one specific favorite character. There's a few I like or dislike a little more than others, but overall I would say I like almost every character

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiyosuki
    I was wondering, does anyone else ever get the impression Milhouse is Greoning's personal favorite character? I know he usually dances around the question of who's his favorite character (although he's admitted to liking Apu, Agnes, Ralph, and Bart particularly on occasion).

    I just notice sometimes that he inserts Milhouse into conversation, jokes, or interviews any chance he gets...like in the commentary ("I'm Matt Greoning, creator of Milhouse". lol), or the "Its Milhouse's night" comment about the film. If he isn't his favorite, he certainly is a character Matt gets a lot of amusement from.
    i talk about seth macfarlane a lot in passing too, but that doesnt mean he's one of my favorite writers

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    hey h_t, do you like... poison?

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    S_J_X_X: Your Neutral Milk Hotel avitar is pretty funny.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiyosuki
    I was wondering, does anyone else ever get the impression Milhouse is Greoning's personal favorite character? I know he usually dances around the question of who's his favorite character (although he's admitted to liking Apu, Agnes, Ralph, and Bart particularly on occasion).

    I just notice sometimes that he inserts Milhouse into conversation, jokes, or interviews any chance he gets...like in the commentary ("I'm Matt Greoning, creator of Milhouse". lol), or the "Its Milhouse's night" comment about the film. If he isn't his favorite, he certainly is a character Matt gets a lot of amusement from.
    He also loves saying "..creator of millhouse's eyebrow." And it usually gets a laugh from the room, (although somtimes I suspect they laugh to keep their jobs) and I've never noticed till then how few of the charachters have eyebrows...

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    You really don't need to double post. There is an edit button there

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    Ok. I hope you weren't JUST talking to me cause I'm the "new guy" since there is a double post directly above mine.... In any case....

    Does it really matter? Being new here, I read these threads backwards to keep the discussion current. And to quote for the second one, a new post was kind of the easiest way to do this. Plus, if my double post is so redundant, isnt pointing it out super-redundnat?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sloppy Jimbo Xiu Xiu
    i talk about seth macfarlane a lot in passing
    gas?



    see, whoever said i dont participate in general discussion debates any longer is WRONG. DEAD WRONG

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sloppy Jimbo Xiu Xiu
    hey h_t, do you like... poison?
    um why do you ask, I'm not getting your joke.

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    --off topic--

    I just rewatched Like Father Like Clown and I just got the joke....

    "The Krusty the Klown?"
    "That ham, sausage and bacon with mayo on whitebread"
    "What?!?!?"
    Oh....you better believe thats a paddlin

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    I love all the Jewish jokes they lob at krusty.

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    Rant on Milhouse Doesn't Live here Anymore

    Why the fuck did they have to ruin the ending of the most sincere Bart and Lisa episode of the last 4 or 5 years by making some references to The Jeffersons and some meta jokes about scmaltzy endings ?

    Maybe I am the only one who found it completely unfunny, but it actually had no connection to the main plot or the subplot. It was just as random as Roseanne appearing in the end credits of 300 Big Boys of Futurama and just as unfunny. The ending should have been the very sincere Bart and Lisa hugging scene.

    The episode didn't have have a very smooth plot transition, Homer's panhandling subplot was only mildly funny and the handling of Bart's sadness was actually a bit overdone at first. But the interaction between Bat and Lisa were very well done :it was not contrived faux emotion but it was really natural and sincere. Damn fucking ending really spoils the emotional effect.

    Good episode : undoubtedly the best Bart and Lisa episode of the last 4 or 5 years. Real shame about the ending, though. B
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    I watched My Sister, My Sitter yesterday and what I really liked was Bart in this episode. I never really noticed how much better Bart was back then, I know Imperciph had been saying it recently, but I really appreciated Bart in that.

    Also watched Homer Vs Dignity, which was funnier than I realised. One joke really made me laugh:
    Lisa: There are a lot of needy children
    Homer: I could get a gun!
    Still, I hate how half the time it relies on Homer pain gags. And of course, I hate that scene. It was a really mixed episode.

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    the line was "I see what your saying, I need to get a gun" but yes it's quite funny I agree.

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    Syndication here has been playing season nine and there have been some episodes I've really been enjoying. Laughs were practically nonstop in "The Cartridge Family." I definitely wouldn't be able to recall every single funny part. I do remember liking Quimby's "vote Quimby" every time he appeared, Milhouse about to cook dinner", Homer saying him needing a gun is in the Constitution, Homer not hesitant on having the windows sealed and them sufficating, Homer showing the gun to Marge by aiming it at her... Two very funny ones I don't see mentioned around here much are "Simpson Tide" and "Dumbell Indemnity". "Mr. Moe", Renee having a conversation and then Homer telling him they should leave because it's not working, the 'toy soldier represents the car and the car represents you' part, "In the Navy", S.S. Antarctica, "My son is NOT a porn star", and other parts I can't remember are all great. Of course "Lisa's Sax" is also great, it's just that I didn't really catch much of the repeat when it was on. Though "Simpson Tide" is a 3G, I must say that season nine isn't too much of a decline like people think and I'd still consider it classic, because the episodes like "Kidney Trouble", "Monty Can't Buy Me Love", "Viva", and "Homerdrive" don't show up until season 10.

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    I notice a lot of people are saying that Al Jean needs to go to keep the show fresh. Is it me, or has the entire writing staff become stagnant and in need of a major overhaul? One thing I noticed in the classic era is that writers came and went; most of the original writers left after season 4, other writers (Ken Keeler, Jennifer Crittenden, Greg Daniels, Conan O'Brien) would join the show and pen episodes for only 2 or 3 seasons before leaving and moving on to other things (Futurama, Seinfeld, King of the Hill, Late Night With Conan). It's like the revolving door of writers kept the show full of fresh perspectives. And it reflected the caliber of the writers: the most talented comedy writers out there are too ambitious to stick with one show for very long. Nowadays, it seems like the writers stick with the show much longer and won't leave (Joel Cohen's been writing since season 12, Omine since 11, Long since 11, Selman since 9, most of these Scully-hired). The best episodes are penned by recently hired writers like Stewart and Price, but most of the main writing staff has been around since forever. I think this may be contributing to the show feeling so old; wouldn't most writers just run out of ideas for one show after a certain point?

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    ^ Yep, I remember mentioning this a little while ago actually. Maxtone Graham has been on the show since Season SEVEN, that's over ten years ago. Most classic era writers stayed for 2-4 seasons tops. I wonder if most of the writers realise how cushy they have it, and because the show will likely end soon they want to stay til the end and be part of its big send-off. I'd be happy with a big clearout of the writers room and a new EP, but they just won't budge it seems.

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    But what about Jon Vitti and John Swartzwelder? They were with the show for 15/16 years.

    ...but then again, thinking about it, they WERE and still ARE the show's most popular writers, and they only ever really had low points between seasons 10-13.
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    I know there's people who would be eager and willing to try their hand at writing for the show whom haven't yet.

    But I really can't say I know whats going on in the writing staff's heads when it comes to this.

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    I imagine in some cases it might be that a lot of the writers are came into the show being huge Simpson's fans and so writing for the show is a dream job for them and they don't want to leave, especially since there aren't many other good oppurtiunites available.

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    I've set a goal that I want to try and aim at being a writer on the Simpsons. It's obvious I wont though, me being in Australia after all, and being 15 there's no way in hell the Simpsons will probably be around in another 15 or so years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ivan_simpsons
    But what about Jon Vitti and John Swartzwelder? They were with the show for 15/16 years.
    I am pretty sure Jon Vitti left during Season 7 and returned in Season 13. As for Swartzelder, it is said in commentaries that after sometime he just sent in his script and didn't come to rewrites, so his presence shouldn't count for quality that much.

    But some writers like Tim Long, Ian-Maxtone Graham, Carolyn Omine, Matt Selman, Joel H. Cohen have been with the show for so long that sometimes I suspect whether they have developed old-man syndrome and are incorporating only certain elements in their writing without trying out new ambitious things. That would certainly explain the run-of-the-mill quality of recent episodes. This show is 17 years old : if the writers just rely on the same type of conflicts and gags for dellivering the laughs people are bound to get tired of that. (and in fact, many already have)

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    Personally, I think Maxtone Graham has gotten better in the last few seasons (his last bad one was Ranch back in S14 IMO). The Heartbroke Kid, Catch "Em If You Can, and especially Seemingly Never Ending Story have been season highlights for me.

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    Maxtone-Graham, despite being a dick, has written two of my favorite episodes of the last two seasons "The Seemingly Never Ending Story" and "Heartbroke Kid."

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    Graham is an unusual case. Between seasons 14 and 15 he suddenly turned from one of the worst writers to the best writer on staff, in terms of output. I don't know; maybe after Dude Where's My Ranch, the writing staff paid more time and attention to Graham-written scripts; maybe Jean sent him to a writing workshop; we can't tell much about the quality of an individual writer anyway.

    Yeah, I can see the writers wanting to ride it out in the end and sticking with a high-caliber comedy show (and who can blame them, frustrating as it is).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Imperciph
    I am pretty sure Jon Vitti left during Season 7 and returned in Season 13.
    Actually after season 4.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Grimes Sr.
    Maxtone-Graham, despite being a dick, has written two of my favorite episodes of the last two seasons "The Seemingly Never Ending Story" and "Heartbroke Kid."
    Whoa whoa whoa, how's he a dick?

    You sparked my curiousity.



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