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    Great all around. Love watching it over and over again.

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    Awful characterization, stupid plot with implausible solution, poor quality humor; it just reeks of Scully. The musical number was decent enough. - D+
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    Quote Originally Posted by Veryjammy
    Once again Neb absolutely misses the point about Homer's characterisation in order to justify his liking of Scully's bastardisation of him. If you like Homer acting like this then fine, but don't try to put the blame on other people when episodes like Dead Putting Society and Boy Scoutz N The Hood are very much liked. You almost deliberately seem to avoid the point every single time.

    And your review of the episode is so god-damned hilarious it beggars belief. Yeah I'm sure glad they avoided giving Homer wacky schtick in this episode! He sure was screwed over by city hall! If I didn't know you better I would think it was a parody review.
    Hehe. Interesting, although it is worth noting that amongst a whole host of other things, not once have I ever confessed nor hinted at being some kind of sappy, unthoughtful Scully suckup who adores all characterisations put forth by him. I, like almost everyone else, hated a lot of what he did. That's my only problem with what you said. Damnit Mr. Jammy, if you're going to accuse me of something then make it realistic who hefty sonofabitch!

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    Well I don't think that Homer was angry for good reason. Everything starts with him being a jerk, not the other way around. It if he who first insults the garbagemen, so they stop collecting his trash. Marge did not strip away his dignity. Homer was being arrogantly proud of himself for the fact that he needlessly insulted his own garbagemen, and when Marge actually fixes the problem, Homer remains ever short-sighted and full of himself, that he claims she stole his dignity and goes straight to city hall. And in Ray Patterson's office, Homer was being loud and obnoxious in a way that it was obvious it had nothing to do with Ray Patterson patronizing him. He walks in there with a predetermined attitude of unneeded cruelty that leads him to strangle the man's parrot among other things. And then we have Homer kicking aside the camera woman, one of the most unmotivated cruel things he's ever done; I mean he injures someone because he likes pushing buttons, and right after he trespasses, too. The laughs in this episode are supposed to come from the fact that Homer is a cruel-hearted jerk. In 'Dead Putting Society' and the Mirkin episodes (in which Homer was a jerk for actual reasons), Homer's being a jerk led him to do humorous things. In 'Trash of the Titans', we were supposed to laugh because he kicked someone. That was the joke. Homer strangled a parrot. That was the joke. In 'Dead Putting Society', we were supposed to laugh because Homer's believable misconception of Flanders' being someone who lords over all of the good things he has led to well-written dialogue between him and Flanders.

    I still like 'Trash of the Titans' though, because everything else is actually quite funny, so my grade is a 'C+'.

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    This episode tackles an important issue, which is good, but the humor is only "fair-to-midland", and the ending is one of those "deus-ex machina" endings that drives me IN-SANE!

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    5/5

    I love this episode. I really do. Homer's a jerkass most of the time anyway, so this episode does not differ greatly...at least for me. U2 was hilarious, great musical number, and, as implausible as it is (not that I really care at this point), I love the ending with the Indians.

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    4/5
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    I gave it a 4/5. I'm not a fan of U2 so i didn't enjoy theyre apperance but the song made up for it.

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    i love this episode! a good 4/5
    not the best episode of season 9 but still really great, steve allen was a great choice for the leader of the garbage company.

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    5/5. Everyone says Homer's turning to his "jerkass" stage, but Al Jean even said in the "Homer the Heretic" commentary that everyone says Homer turned into a jerk now, but there he is in season 4 laughing during a fantasy of Ned trapped in a burning house. He has a strong point.
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    Probably the most up-and-down episode ever quality-wise.

    Enough good stuff to get a B+.

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    i liked this one. it was so funny, especially the ending
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    Quote Originally Posted by HappyPalooza
    5/5. Everyone says Homer's turning to his "jerkass" stage, but Al Jean even said in the "Homer the Heretic" commentary that everyone says Homer turned into a jerk now, but there he is in season 4 laughing during a fantasy of Ned trapped in a burning house. He has a strong point.
    See the thing has a totality, not individualistic jokes. Was being a jerk the only characteristic of Homer in Homer The Heretic ? No, he was written as 3D character. An everyman, a jerk, a blissful idiot, a naive childlike adult, a guy with a bizarre philosophy on life : all these aspects were present in his character to make a multi-dimensional character.

    Now think of Trash Of The Titans characterisation as a whole. The dominant aspect of the character is angry arrogant jerk (not arguing whether that's reasonable in the context of episode). All other aspects are either marginalised or negated. Thus, he is a much more simplified character, who can be summed by one basic trait : jerkiness. That's the type of oversimplified one-dimensional characterisation that is termed by fans as "Jerkass Homer".
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    I thoroughly enjoyed it just from an overall point of view. Steve Martin and U2 made excellent guest appearances. I also enjoyed the music very much. The ending while kind of weak, but it did correct the plot nicely and was in my opinion the only way it could have been done. I guess we just have to look past it like we hopefully can look past The Principal and the Pauper. 9/10
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    3/5- Average. Not what I'd expect from the guy who wrote one of the most memorable episodes ever (the city of New York vs. Homer Simpson). Music was great, guest stars seemed very, very tacked on. They had nothing to do with the episode (I'm obviously referring to U2). Nice plot idea. Would have worked better without U2. Not to put them down, just that, well....be honest, it didn't work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Imperciph
    See the thing has a totality, not individualistic jokes. Was being a jerk the only characteristic of Homer in Homer The Heretic ? No, he was written as 3D character. An everyman, a jerk, a blissful idiot, a naive childlike adult, a guy with a bizarre philosophy on life : all these aspects were present in his character to make a multi-dimensional character.

    Now think of Trash Of The Titans characterisation as a whole. The dominant aspect of the character is angry arrogant jerk (not arguing whether that's reasonable in the context of episode). All other aspects are either marginalised or negated. Thus, he is a much more simplified character, who can be summed by one basic trait : jerkiness. That's the type of oversimplified one-dimensional characterisation that is termed by fans as "Jerkass Homer".
    Touche. But this episode still has one of my favorite lines, "If I hadn't already packed my letter opener, I'd give you such a stabbing."

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    I have just rewatched it and I disagree with my previous comment now and I totally agree with TheForbiddenDonut now, it's a good episodes EXCEPT for Homer's characterization, which is ok sometimes, but it's too mean spirited and jerkassy in too many scenes (though he's still a little better than his own self in later seasons and he has some nice moments here and there).

    I used to dislike the ending, but now I kinda enjoy it. Homer's behaviour is my only problem, part of his jerkass behaviour is funny, even if it's obviously not very clever I enjoy him annoying the parrot and even some of his speech when he insults Patterson. However, Homer kicking the camera woman or interrupting his family constantly are neither funny nor a good characterization of him.

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    Havent seen it in a long while, but I can remember I liked Steve Martin and Homers song & dance number very much.
    For that reason I give it a 5/5


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    Quote Originally Posted by Faust451
    Great all around. Love watching it over and over again.

    Yeah....what this guy said.

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    5/5
    2nd best season 9 ep. The Garbage Man Can song is classic, also the scenes with Ray patterson.

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    it was good not great but not bad so it gets a B :thumbsup

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    I haven't seen this one in a long time, but from what I remember, I have mixed feelings about it. I'm a big fan of Steve Martin's brilliantly funny and intelligent work in movies like "L.A. Story" and "Parenthood", so it's disappointing that he was such a forgettable guest star. U2 was pretty cool, if only because it was great to hear Bono sing the word "ass" after making so many serious songs. I think the song pretty much saves this episode from mediocrity.
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    The Garbage Man Can song made this episode great

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    I liked it all except the ending... I dunno why, i know its a cartoon but that just shits me...

    Steve Martin was brilliant as Ray Patterson.. along with Frank Grimes one of the few "normal" persons" to enter Springfield
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    I love this one. My favorite bit is all the U2 stuff 4 out of 5

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    5/5, just a hilarious episode from start to finish. Homer being "jerkass" in this one doesn't bother me at all. It works perfectly in this one.

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    For being an Emmy Award-winning episode, it's not really at my top for Season 9. Actually, it might be one my least favorites from that season. 3/5

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    5/5 Ian Maxtone Graham did a great job in writing the episode and the lyrics to Garbage Man.

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    great episode, and the fact that it still garners hate seems to indicate just a fundamental difference in taste at this point of the series.
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    Eh... I actually loved the ending to this one. Anyways, I like this episode! The musical number is fun to sing along to. I'd give it 4 out of 5. :3



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