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    I always found this one to be pretty dry in both story and jokes. It's not bad I just don't find it very entertaining.

    "You are Lisa Simpson" means nothing to me.

    2/5

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam View Post
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    Bad reply, good reply? I'm the guy with the post.

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    i got bad posts so i feel u

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    They are all bad posts.
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    yea

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    not breaking new ground ive been saying that

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    my posts are excellent

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    can t relate

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    o frick i gotta charge my computer

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    ur posts are excellent

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    no u

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    yea but... you too

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    This is a good episode. A real winner.
    Favorite and least favorite by season
    1. Life on the Fast Lane Homer’s Night Out 2. Bart Gets an F Dead Putting Society 3. Homer at the Bat Like Father, Like Clown 4. Brother From the Same Planet Krusty Gets Kancelled 5. Cape Feare Lady Bouvier’s Lover 6. Homer Badman Another Simpsons Clip Show 7. King-Size Homer Lisa the Iconoclast 8. Homer’s Enemy The Simpsons Spin-Off Showcase 9. Bart Carny The Trouble With Trillions 10. Thirty Minutes Over Tokyo Homer Simpson in: “Kidney Trouble” 11. Guess Who’s Coming to Criticize Dinner? Hello Gutter, Hello Fadder 12. HOMЯ Tennis the Menace 13. Tales From the Public Domain She of Little Faith 14. The Dad Who Knew Too Little Helter Shelter 15. I, (Annoyed Grunt)-bot Bart-Mangled Banner 16. A Star is Torn On a Clear Day I Can’t See My Sister 17. My Fair Laddy Bonfire of the Manatees 18. The Haw-Hawed Couple You Kent Always Say What You Want 19. Eternal Moonshine of the Simpson Mind All About Lisa 20. Gone Maggie Gone The Good, the Sad and the Drugly 21. The Bob Next Door The Color Yellow 22. Donnie Fatso Love is a Many Strangled Thing 23. The Falcon and the D’ohman A Totally Fun Thing That Bart Will Never Do Again 24. Hardly Kirk-ing Moonshine River 25. The War of Art What to Expect When Bart’s Expecting 26. Sky Police Let’s Go Fly a Coot 27. Halloween of Horror Lisa With an ‘S’ 28. There Will Be Buds Moho House 29. Springfield Splendor Throw Grampa From the Dane 30. Daddicus Finch I Want You (She’s So Heavy) 31. Thanksgiving of Horror Warrin’ Priests (Part Two)

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    This is one of my favourites, but I tend to deviate to the earliest seasons.

    I found the episode to be relatively relatable, which is always something I strive to find in entertainment. It was a great analysis of the relationship between Lisa and Homer, which is something I don't tend to see often. Lisa, as well as Bart in his b-plot, felt very much like children to me, which is good, because they are children. I found them to be very organic characters in this, unlike in later seasons where they almost seem to act like (somewhat) matured adults in young bodies.

    The juxtaposition of Mr. Bergstrom as a substitute teacher and a substitute father in the eyes of Lisa was subtly beautiful. People often point to the "You are Lisa Simpson" note featured in the episode's punctum; this is a touching moment, yes. It's a clear landmark of the episode as well as the season. And yet, that scene didn't matter as much to me as the ending itself. Lisa is broken about her male idol's leaving, and her actual father figure at first refuses to console her. Homer, thanks to Marge's intervention, finally understands what is happening. To some extent, at least. He may not clearly understand that Lisa was subconsciously replacing him as a father figure, but he did realise that his daughter was devastated and that he hurt her, and that it was his duty as her actual father to patch things up. I found that to be beautiful.

    Hoffman's portrayal of the titual substitute was geniusly played. A gripe I share with others is that, in place of the episode's notable emotional grip, is a slight lack in humour.

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    it was p aiight anyways

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    pax i see u

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    There is such a gap in quality between most other episodes before and this one that it's insane. No other episode (aside from Life on the Fast Lane and parts of Moaning Lisa and Bart Gets an F) come close to how emotional and perfectly written this is. Lisa has her best characterization yet and Homer is almost as good. Dustin Hoffman knocks it out of the park as Mr. Bergstrom and Mr. Bergstrom himself is such a greatly written character. And both the brain scene and Homer making up with Lisa are among the best scenes in Simpsons history.

    But on the other hand this is a really funny episode. Unlike Moaning Lisa, the subplot doesn't take up too much time and doesn't mess with the episode's tone at all. The pacing between the A and B plots is perfect. And this B plot is way funnier than the one in Moaning Lisa. Bart has such a strong personality and that naturally leads to many great jokes.

    This is a special kind of episode where literally everything works. It's funny, heartfelt, tells an amazing story, and includes a fantastic guest star. What else could you want? 10/10

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    I love The Simpsons for countless reasons. One of them is its incredibly immense variety of content. I reviewed almost all the second season, and I gave the perfect note to a trilogy of horror-stories, to one of the saddest episodes, to one with a meaningful impact in the past of the characters, and to two brilliant satires. This episode is completely different than all of them. Nevertheless, it is still perfect in its own way.

    This episode gets relevance without any gimmick.

    When I think about this episode, Mr. Bergstrom immediately comes to mind (of course). Dustin Hoffman steals the show with his sympathetic and amiable character. Mr. Bergstrom represents a stereotypical perfect teacher who is constantly innovating his classes, who knows how to motivate the students in the learning process. One of those teachers that everyone would love to have during their childhood. He tries to get kids' attention, he searches the most efficient way to teach them the contents, and he is constantly cheering them to develops their own talents, no matter how useless they can be. Mr. Bergstrom is no worried if he is watched crying for the students or if they make jokes about his aspect or his apparent reek because he does not stop in the superficial. He is also a wise, intelligent man. He proves it when he teaches about the cowboys in Texas and when he is in the museum. He is also sensitive. It was evident but I especially liked it when he reflects on the relationship between two grown brothers and when he cries because that book touches him. He is talented (he plays the guitar), is solidary (he selflessly decides to contribute with the museum) and is lovely with the kids. Plus, he apparently has a nice smile and he is not tempted by Edna Krabappel's seduction. Everything on him seems perfect. And that, added to the constant mediocrity that around on Lisa in her family –Homer's seems distracted every time Lisa tries to connect with him– and in the school –Mrs. Hoover is the opposite than Bergstrom–, generated a feeling of admiration and special enthusiasm in the girl for teacher new teacher.

    He'd lost against Albert Brooks' Hank Scorpio. But he can easily be the second-best guest star.

    And that's the biggest success of this episode. Yeah, Mr. Bergstrom is fairly likable, a serious contender to the best one-time character of all time. But his appearance would be nothing if he would not have related with a Simpson. His chemistry along with Lisa is wonderful. You can accompany Lisa when she starts to know her teacher and why she idolatrized him. Mr. Bergstrom gifts her a hat for her correct answer, he does not quarrel her after watching his drawing, he motivates her to plays the saxophone without shame. Little gestures during the classes that made that Lisa is interested to have a deeper relationship than the professor/teacher. They were together at the museum, and after that Lisa planned to invite him to dinner... But Bergstrom had gone and Mrs. Hoover came back. Ah, the life of a substitute teacher. I really liked that Mrs. Hoover believed Bergstrom didn't teach anything, but Lisa fixes her saying that he taught her that life is worthy of living. And then, we have the scene of the farewell next to the train that was going to separate them forever. What can I say about this scene that was not said already? It is a classic moment. Classic things are imperishable, and no matter how many times I've watched it, it always impacts me. It is a moving, touching moment. I loved how Bergstrom handled the situation, and I liked his reflections about substitute teachers and medium-class, and I enjoyed his brief moment of pride when he says he is the best teacher. But if this scene stands out is thanks for that beautiful note Lisa receives from Bergstrom: "You are Lisa Simpson" and that's all. It seems hollow, it is absolutely deep. It's a great message and a memorable last act for this character.

    One of the most iconic moments of the entire show.

    Lisa loves Bergstrom because she watches on him a better father figure than the one offered by Homer. The contrast is notorious: while one enjoys going to a museum, the other hates it; while one of them is generous, the other is stingy; while one eats vegetables, the other eats a sandwich (I love that detail). And well, Homer and Lisa's relationship suffers a tense chapter here. I am not a fan of their behavior between them before the resolution. I thought this review was going to be a letter of love but that's my gripe with this episode. Lisa yelling at him during the dinner, calling him a baboon, disrespecting him in this way was a bit too much, especially when Homer was not the main cause of her sadness. Yeah, Homer has his errors here too. I strongly dislike it when he says that the fact he does not care doesn't mean he does not understand. But that is another discussion. Lisa can't angry with him just because he is not as smart or as educated as Bergstrom. He didn't have bad intentions when he makes the joke of the wolfman, for example. I think Lisa was too harsh with him and he didn't deserve it. But that's a minor complaint and everything can be forgotten after that beautiful ending. Homer's little speech was one of the most sincere moments of the show. Everyone can feel relatable with that scene and it is absolutely cute and inspiring. The melancholy music really helped to build the atmosphere for that adorable discourse where Homer tries to cheer Lisa up and console her after her loss. After it, Homer jokes about the hurting comment Lisa had done, play innocently and forget the inconvenience. What a wonderful outcome. Lisa and Homer always give us little gems like that.

    Everything was fantastic in this scene, but the storyboard's work was excellent.

    What I can't believe is that some people say this episode is not funny. Beyond there are some good jokes here and there in the main plot (I'd want to remark when Lisa is drawn as the same form than Bergstrom), there is an entire subplot whose only objective is to make us laugh. Bart running up for the class presidency was a big generator of amusing moments. Sherri & Terri claiming for Bart's candidature opened an opportunity for Bart to be the clown of his class. And he really takes it. The speeches during their campaign worked really well because they show the innumerable differences between Martin and Bart. Saving the distances, the subplot also worked as another effective political criticism. It shows how useless can be the debates when the voters do not care about the election. Bart earns almost all the votes shouting catchphrases, saying incoherences, and humiliating his adversary. I chuckled when Bart claims for more asbestos Martin's decline was kinda funny too. But although he conquested his mates' votes, Bart lost the election in an outrageous way. Everyone forgot the election and Martin won with a devastating 2-0. I liked how Homer is involved in this story too. First, incentivizing Bart to accept the postulation because it is like a popularity contest (and he practically won it, because a big part of the group was going to vote him). But them consoling him after the defeat, saying a big true: there is no benefit in being the Class President. Just extra work for the one who occupies the charge. There were some smart visual gags during the campaign like the mistaken sex announce and my personal favorite, Bart and Martin using the same argument: a vote for Bart is a vote for anarchy.

    The smartest joke of the episode.

    If I had to choose my three favorites episodes of the season, I probably would not pick this one. But Lisa's Substitute is excellent. Mr. Bergstrom is one of the greatest one-time characters, Lisa and Homer pass for a bad moment and then have a great reconciliation, Bart was the encharged of the funny moments. It is a complete episode and deserves the perfect note from me.

    5/5



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