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    Most offensive jokes?

    What jokes on the show do you find to be the most offensive or politically incorrect?

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    The end of Homer's Phobia when Moe says something along the lines of I better kill myself for being saved by a gay man (which spoils this episode for me somewhat), when John saves Barney,Moe,Homer and Bart from the reindeer.

    I don't really get how the joke's supposed to be funny as there's nothing wrong with brave gay men or helpless straight men, and the suicide bit was offensive to gay people (though I'm sure the writers wouldn't dream of using it nowadays!)

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    Just kidding, I can't think of anything insanely offensive, but Abe calling that Asian man "Ping Pong" in Children of a Lesser Clod could be considered offensive
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snorky View Post
    The end of Homer's Phobia when Moe says something along the lines of I better kill myself for being saved by a gay man (which spoils this episode for me somewhat), when John saves Barney,Moe,Homer and Bart from the reindeer.

    I don't really get how the joke's supposed to be funny as there's nothing wrong with brave gay men or helpless straight men, and the suicide bit was offensive to gay people (though I'm sure the writers wouldn't dream of using it nowadays!)
    right, I think you missed the joke, it's not a joke about being gay or straight it's a joke on fragile men. Just because you don't understand something it doesn't mean it's offensive.


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    There have also been jokes that haven't aged well and are now offensive, like the transphobic joke in Lisa's First Word.


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    I hate how the show tends to make gay men have Jamaican/Caribbean accents, like Julio, or the "Gay-O" singers in "There's Something About Marrying." I'm not gay, but I support them, and it annoys me how the show sometimes treats homosexuality like an ethnic stereotype. Of course there are a few exceptions (Mr. Smithers and John, for instance.)

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    I dunno if it really offends me or if I just groan at how overused it is before it hit the show but speaking of what wiley mentioned, the show has a dumb tendancy to portray trans women as huge muscular men, kinda like you'd find on a shitty boomer cartoon raging against the idea of gender neutral bathrooms. Or of course that they're just straight men trying to trick lesbians.


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    And then there's the more unique to the show but equally groan worthy conflation that all gay people want to be women. It gets a little bit sad when the closest thing to positive trans representation is Helen Lovejoy, and that was just a one-off joke that I doubt is even actual canon information even though it could open up some interesting doors regarding the Lovejoys like their own stances on LGBT folks or where Jessica came from (she looks a lot like both Tim and Helen but maybe that's a coincidence? Or maybe she was a neice of one of them that got orphaned so they took her in?)


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    Yeah, I groan whenever they make a joke about Smithers or Largo wanting to be a woman (such as in 'Frink Gets Testy' and 'Eeny Teeny Maya Moe'). It's such a lazy joke and makes the writers look so ignorant, as if they actually believe gender and sexuality are the same thing. And what's weird is that these jokes are more prevailant in the HD era.


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    I'd say there's a reason for such poor jokes to be more prevalent in the HD era.

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    I think Lisa declaring herself a member of the Hitachi tribe was pretty tacky. And in keeping the Lisa is never punished angle, she was never taken to task for her cultural appropriation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GlitterCat View Post
    I think Lisa declaring herself a member of the Hitachi tribe was pretty tacky. And in keeping the Lisa is never punished angle, she was never taken to task for her cultural appropriation.
    I didn't think it was particularly offensive. The bad part about it is that Family Guy already did the "pretending to be Native American" plot back in its first season. The Simpsons crew shouldn't be hearing that Family Guy did something first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GlitterCat View Post
    I think Lisa declaring herself a member of the Hitachi tribe was pretty tacky. And in keeping the Lisa is never punished angle, she was never taken to task for her cultural appropriation.
    You know what is funny, the only person who called Lisa out was Bart.

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    One joke that comes to mind is in 'Lisa's Sax' when Dr. Loren Pryor (the elementary school psychiatrist) is talking to Homer and Marge about Bart having trouble in school, saying that public schools can be intimidating to a child that has shown many flamboyant homosexual tendencies, mistakenly talking about Bart but then realizes he's looking at Milhouse's file. I don't see why Milhouse might being gay is at all worthy of being in his personal school file as if it is something negative (and does it really matter in the first place?). That moment aged pretty poorly.
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    The Rain Man scene from $pringfield that basically boiled down to "LOL, this autistic person is doing something loud and annoying and now Homer is doing it too!".



    Also, I'm glad someone else brought up the plot point from Marrying. Even if veronica wasn't actually intended to be trans, the whole "this woman is actually a man pretending to be a woman in order to sneak into the women's sports leagues and date a lesbian!" thing is exactly what transphobes say about trans women over and over again. I really hope the writers just didn't know what they were doing, but I assume the Futurama writers move in similar circles to the Simpsons writers and they had a "man pretends to be a woman in order to sneak into the women's sports league" episode 2 years prior which involved an actual sex change, so I'm haunted by the possibility that they knew and just didn't care.
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    I don't care what anyone says, that Rain Man scene almost gave me a heart attack from laughter


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    Yeah, I never found that offensive either. It's always one of the jokes which makes me laugh the hardest when I watch the episode. This is coming from an autistic person by the way.
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    While I can see why the Rain Man parody can be seen as offensive (or borderline), I don't think it's that bad (at least not compared to a lot of the other examples in this thread). I also don't intepret it that way; it's Homer's misunderstanding and reaction of being a jerk that is funny, not the Dustin Hoffman guy doing that (as he's thinking the guy is doing it on purpose to avoid having to do the card-counting thing again and spitefully retaliates with a lot of the same, blindly so). The autistic character isn't being made fun of, Homer is.

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    The trillion dollar bill episode REALLY annoyed me when it tried to make a joke out of the European struggle against the Nazis. Regardless of what they say, many nations didn't fight poorly or surrender readily. The French Resistance was incredibly daring and brave. And Britain, who they lumped in with this group, NEVER surrendered and only lost the Channel Islands to the Nazis.
    People died in that war, thousands, horribly. Don't piss on their memory because you want to talk up America. You can respect America's fight against Hitler - which I certainly do - AND acknowledge that European nations fought just as hard. Some shit you don't joke about.

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    The above post reminds me of The Simpsons Game. Obviously not an episode of the show, but there's a whole level about the French surrendering. I think it becomes a bit distasteful after a while, since being a video game level it obviously drags on a lot longer than a joke in the show.

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    Pretty much all of the jokes the show's made about France's surrender (which seem to be almost solely an American thing) not only comes across as offensive but feels old and tired. I don't recall if they still do them but if they do it's probably best to stop beating that old horse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CousinMerl View Post
    One joke that comes to mind is in 'Lisa's Sax' when Dr. Loren Pryor (the elementary school psychiatrist) is talking to Homer and Marge about Bart having trouble in school, saying that public schools can be intimidating to a child that has shown many flamboyant homosexual tendencies, mistakenly talking about Bart but then realizes he's looking at Milhouse's file. I don't see why Milhouse might being gay is at all worthy of being in his personal school file as if it is something negative (and does it really matter in the first place?). That moment aged pretty poorly.
    I don't think whoever wrote that joke is being negative towards gay people. I think their making fun of both the fact that Milhouse is showing gay tendencies so young when many gay people don't come out till their 20's and the fact that some people thought Milhouse would be gay but knowing his future crush on Lisa, he's clearly not. Those kind of jokes should definitely be acceptable and I would assume the vast majority of gay people would be ok with them, if not find them funny even in this day and age

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    @Snorky, Maybe there is some truth to your assessment of the joke and maybe it can be viewed as pretty harmless in a sense (and it's not as bad compared to some of these other examples), but it still feels like one of those jokes that can be found offensive to some. I found it a bit odd and jarring on a rewatch (that inspired me to post it) and I can imagine others thinking so too; there was just something about the presentation that felt off so even though I'm sure they werent out to offend anyone and/or think negatively of gays it can still be seen as insensitive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CousinMerl View Post
    One joke that comes to mind is in 'Lisa's Sax' when Dr. Loren Pryor (the elementary school psychiatrist) is talking to Homer and Marge about Bart having trouble in school, saying that public schools can be intimidating to a child that has shown many flamboyant homosexual tendencies, mistakenly talking about Bart but then realizes he's looking at Milhouse's file. I don't see why Milhouse might being gay is at all worthy of being in his personal school file as if it is something negative (and does it really matter in the first place?). That moment aged pretty poorly.
    That joke has always confused me it's very clear that Milhouse likes Lisa. Is part of the joke is that the school thinks that Milhouse is gay ??

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    Also, as somebody who suffers from depression, I have always hated the Moe is suicidal jokes.
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    For someone who really respects the meaning of the ethymologies, I find the Kodos scene from THOH XXX offensive. They really look like they want to pander to SJWs (wasn't Kodos female and/or woman-identifying in THOH VII and Maggie still female despite being voiced by Harry Shearer at the end of THOH IX?). Also, for someone who respects other beliefs, I find the "all the deities are in christian Heaven" (especially prominent in the HD era) thing extremely disrespectful (Homer asked an hindu god to reincarnate him, and the hindu god being in "Hindu Heaven", WTF?) towards other beliefs. God's line on atheists in My way or the highway to Heaven is also a misunderstanding on atheists, being for me on the same level as "atheism is a belief in no god" (God's line makes the writers look like they are interpreting atheism as "a refusal of acknowledging God's existence"), when it actually means "not believing in any deity".
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    Sixteen year old Shauna showing her tits to ten year old Bart, and nobody ever making a big deal out of it (except Bart himself). Like, are the writers pedophiles themselves or just fucking retarded?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kangdos View Post
    Sixteen year old Shauna showing her tits to ten year old Bart, and nobody ever making a big deal out of it (except Bart himself). Like, are the writers pedophiles themselves or just fucking retarded?
    I absolutely loath that episode because it completely ignores how Bart is being taken advantage of by someone much older and more sexually mature than him. None of the characters acknowledge/realize this (Lisa's attitude was particularly frustrating). Bart was painted as the bad guy, as he so often is in episodes where, from a normal common sense standpoint, he's actually the victim. Seeing him and Shauna making out was very disturbing. Imagine an episode where Jimbo and Lisa hooked up. Suddenly it's not okay, is it...


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    @J.J.Watts you actually make a great point. Lisa attitude was pretty much against what she stands for in the way of what is right and wrong, especially when she probably should be sticking up her brother and not, "Shauna should choose Shauna." This is when her feminism overshadows common sense that female can be wrong. Lisa is more mature than Bart, we get it. But she should have have tried to stop this either by talking to Bart and/or Shauna or Marge. I felt Bart was just going with the flow in this episode because one, someone was showing interest in him and he was getting back at a bully.

    Btw, just to let @Kangdos and you know in the episode "Daddicus Finch," Shauna is having her bat mitzvah which you usually have at 13. I don't know who created this girl but she is terrible. I never put to much thought into characters I hate. I don't think I hate one really, but she's terrible. Either she has daddy issues. Went crazy when her mom died. Hates the character Kahmunrah from Night at the "Museum: The Battle of the Smithsonian." She smokes, drinks, is easy. Dates older men. This is a bad joke.


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    I think the majority of "beware my cheating Bart" can count. CSA doesn't magically become funny just because it's a girl doing it to a boy. But of course it was going to be treated as funny, and of course they were going to side with Shauna, she's almost as big a writer's pet as Lisa.

    Also, if "Highway to Well" and "Homer Goes to Prep School" are anything to go by, she's old enough to get a job.
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    Shauna has been seen dating men as old as Gil. Either that says something truly disturbing about Gil, the writers are horribly inconsistent and purposely vague with her age, or she's officially a pedophile.

    But as I said in the Shauna thread, she's one of the worst characters to have ever been in the show. It still bothers me how she was not held accountable for anything she did in 'Beware My Cheating Bart'. Great message, guys.

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    I do think the LGBT jokes are really offensive, but not more than the LGBT characters.

    I really despise the fact that they made Julio a living abomination and they really crossed the line with "Werking Mom", when they had Marge, Julio and other men, even Waylon Smithers disguised as drag queens. It made me feel really uncomfortable and made me feel bad for the people that are humiliated for something they do not have control of, because not every LGBT person is showing off the way Julio does.

    The worst joke for me was the kiss Grady, Julio's ex-boyfriend gave to Homer in "Three Gays Of The Condo" and it wasn't really sudden. The conversation goes something like this:

    Homer returns sad after his romantic dinner with Marge was destroyed

    Grady: "The fact is, certain people are just not right for each other. You gave it a chance, it didn't work...at least you gave it a try!"
    Homer:"But it was Marge, my first and only love. I am like David Spay without Chris Sparely, alone and useless!"
    Grady: "Oh Homer! A guy as special as you will have no trouble....Believe me!" Kiss

    So, not only doesn't acknowledge the fact that Homer is a straight man, with wife and children, but he also takes advantage of his misery to make a romantic move, let alone the kiss. It is really cheap from the writers to do that when a character is miserable and this might be be my only complaint about "Three Gays Of The Condo".



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