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    According to my local cinema's management team for trivia nights, Seasons 10 and 11 are part of the "classic" era.

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    frankly just sounds like some of you need higher standards

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Nihilistic View Post
    I'm not even sure if season nine is classic or not, so season ten definitely isn't getting that stamp from me. That was the first season where I could say a majority of the episodes weren't good, and even the good ones don't really feel the same as the good episodes from a couple seasons before them.

    But there were definitely classic moments. And at times, it could be really funny.
    Season 9 is semi-classic at best.


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    Season 10 is still good and has a lot of funny episodes but I think that's where the tone changed significantly. Season 9 still has a similar feel to me as earlier seasons.
    You're a dolt with the IQ of a peabrain that probably loves lowbrow sitcoms like The Big Bang Theory, Frasier and Seinfeld to not grasp the biting satire and wit of the classic 65 (Rugrats).

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    I appreciate that my perspective is probably different from somebody who actually watched the show in the intended order but to me 9 and 10 don't feel that different --- which isn't an insult to either of them. Both of them have some great outings (The City of New York vs. Homer Simpson, King of the Hill, Lisa Gets An A, Wild Barts Can't Be Broken) and some not-so-great (The Two Mrs. Nahasapeemapetilons, Bart Carny, When You Dish Upon a Star, Make Room for Lisa). I don't blame anyone for declaring the classic era ends at s8 since it's tidier, but I think it was a pretty gradual thing.

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    I hate season 10, especially kidney trouble. Homer is a jerkass but they can't just take his kidney while he's unconscious, he needs to consent. Hibbert could be sued. I also hate the dark ending joke where Homer squeezes Bart's kidney.

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    I actually think the ending is one of the few good parts about Kidney Trouble. I don’t really take it seriously.
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    It's transitional as others mentioned, some episodes like Lisa gets an a and Mayored to the mob feel more season 9-ish or semi-classic, but others like Monty can't buy me love and Dish upon a star feel more season 11-ish or modern.

    I can kinda see why some people prefer 11-12 over 10 though. S11-12 have better animation and is less stuck in the mud than season 10. By that point it's more of a Family Guy Lite though.
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    To be honest I don't consider "golden age" and "classic era" as the same. Basically, I think the golden age was seasons 2-the first 4 episodes of Season 10 but the classic era was every episode before the show went digital. Seasons 14-16 are good, but the switch to digital animation basically started a new era.
    Best and Worst Episode per Season:
    1: Krusty Gets Busted/Homer's Night Out 2: One Fish, Two Fish, Blowfish, Blue Fish/Bart's Dog Gets an 'F' 3: Bart the Murderer/Saturdays of Thunder 4: Homer the Heretic/So Its Come To This: A Simpsons Clip Show 5: Cape Feare/Lady Bouvier's Lover 6: Homie the Clown/Another Simpsons Clip Show 7: Raging Abe Simpson and his Grumbling Grandson in " The Curse of the Flying Hellfish"/Scenes From the Class Struggle in Springfield 8: The Springfield Files/The Old Man and the Lisa 9: The City of New York vs. Homer Simpson/Miracle on Evergreen Terrace 10: Mayored to the Mob/Homer Simpson in: Kidney Trouble 11: Grift of the Magi/Eight Misbehavin' 12: Trilogy of Error/I'm Goin' to Praiseland 13: The Blunder Years/The Lastest Gun in the West 14: Moe Baby Blues/The Strong Arms of the Ma 15: My Mother the Carjacker/Co-Dependent's Day 16: The Heartbroke Kid/Homer and Ned's Hail Mary Pass 17: The Seemingly Never-Ending Story/The Bonfire of the Manatees 18: The Mook, The Chef, The Wife, and Her Homer/The Boys of Bummer 19: Eternal Moonshine of the Simpson Mind/Husbands and Knives 20: Gone Maggie Gone/Lisa the Drama Queen 21: The Squirt and the Whale/The Greatest Story Ever D'ohed 22: Homer Scissorhands/The Fight Before Christmas 23: The Book Job/Lisa Goes Gaga 24: The Saga of Carl/Love is a Many-Splintered Thing 25: Brick Like Me/What to Expect When Bart's Expecting 26: Sky Police/The Musk Who Fell to Earth 27: Barthood/Every Man's Dream 28: 22 for 30/The Caper Chase 29: Flanders' Ladder/Singin' in the Lane 30: Woo-hoo Dunnit?/I Want You (She's So Heavy)

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    The funny thing is that even season 9 is now being rejected. I remember 5 years ago most fans still considered it classic era, albeit in transition.

    But now recently, with Youtube essays by Entertain the Elk and Super Eyepatch Wolf about the Simpsons' decline getting popular, the hate for Principal and the Pauper has been re-ignited (seems like it died down for a while), and now I've seen a lot of casual fans seemingly reject s9 as classic solely because of that one episode (unfair imo). Heck, in the past two years I've seen more hate for PatP than even Kill the Alligator and Run.

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    Some people view 8 as the half-classic transitional season now. Which seems mad to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scully apologist View Post
    Some people view 8 as the half-classic transitional season now. Which seems mad to me.
    Yeah like everyone used to say 1-8 was the firm classic era, but now after those Youtube essays came out more "race to the bottom"/purity spiral fans are poppjng up saying things like "The show was already a wretched shitfest by season 7" or something, lol. Like the show's been meh for so long that now fans are trying to convince themselves that less and less of it was ever actually good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grifty McGrift View Post
    The further time goes, the more the classic era shrinks.
    NHC in 2038: Season 4 and 5 are the only classic era!!
    i feel the opposite is true, as time goes on, people are becoming more forgiving to the scully years. it's one thing to believe the decline wasn't becoming apparent in season 8 or 9 but 10?? if ten is in the classic era then wouldn't you not also believe the classic era never ended at all?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jim View Post
    i feel the opposite is true, as time goes on, people are becoming more forgiving to the scully years. it's one thing to believe the decline wasn't becoming apparent in season 8 or 9 but 10?? if ten is in the classic era then wouldn't you not also believe the classic era never ended at all?
    On NHC, people are more forgiving towards the Scully era, but other parts of the fanbase seem to be tightening their belts on it. Which is funny since this situation was the opposite 15 years ago.

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    I always thought that season 10 is the last " golden age " season. I don't know why so many people hate it! I absolutely enjoyed it! It has some pretty good episodes and jokes!

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    it is the last

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    "Classic" or "Golden" era, whatever you wanna call it, is always going to be subjective. I think the majority of people consider 1-8 classic (anyone who doesn't include 8 is crazy). I've never seen an argument good enough to convince me that 9 shouldn't be included in that era. Though I feel there's a very noticable dip in quality between production seasons 9 and 10. The season 9 holdovers "Lard of the Dance", "The Wizard of Evergreen Terrace" and "Bart the Mother" are easily the best eps of season 10 (I personally consider "When You Dish Upon a Star" the official end of Classic Simpsons (fuck that ep!))

    Every episode from "When You Dish Upon a Star" onwards used the full-opening sequence, showing the writers were getting lazier. Back in the day the show very almost ended after 9 due to desputes with the VA's pay, so I think the crew thought the shows time was up, then when it got renewed they were like "we've worked our asses off for 9 years, if they're gonna force us to keep going, it's gonna be half-arsed"

    10 still has many episodes after that I consider classic ("Lisa Gets an A", "Mayored to the Mob", "Wild Barts Can't Be Broken", "Homer to the Max", "Mom and Pop Art", "They Saved Lisa's Brain", "Thirty Minutes Over Tokyo"), but 9 didn't have a single episode I hated, while 10 boasts several ("When You Dish Upon a Star", "Kidney Trouble", "Sunday, Cruddy Sunday", "Monty Can't Buy Me Love"). I can't consider a season with so many horrible episodes part of the Golden Years. To be in the Golden Years every single episode has to be at least good if not great.

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    Although I don’t consider it part of the “classic” seasons, I do view it as part of the “classic part 2” phase of the show.

    MY opinion of the seasons.

    Classic seasons: 1-7

    Transition from classic era to classic era part 2- Seasons 8-9

    Classic era part 2- Seasons 10-19

    Anything after that I consider as just new seasons where some episodes are ok and some are.... not. Truth is every season up until 19 i absolutely love and season 10 is actually one of my all time favorites after season 7. So many great episodes!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grifty McGrift View Post
    The further time goes, the more the classic era shrinks.
    NHC in 2038: Season 4 and 5 are the only classic era!!
    It's supposed to have quite the opposite effect. The further time goes, the more the classic era expands - but not this time, huh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BartArt View Post
    It's supposed to have quite the opposite effect. The further time goes, the more the classic era expands - but not this time, huh?
    I don't think the concept of a "Classic era" existed until around the mid 00s. I remember back when seasons 11/12 were airing simpling thinking the show was going through a brief rough patch.

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    As a kid I felt something different towards the Simpsons starting with season 8. But back then, of course, I didn't think about the show in a way of its decline or something. And I liked season 8 in general, as well as the next two seasons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BartArt View Post
    As a kid I felt something different towards the Simpsons starting with season 8. But back then, of course, I didn't think about the show in a way of its decline or something. And I liked season 8 in general, as well as the next two seasons.

    I agree with this. Season 8 and onward had a totally different vibe. Almost.... darker? No darker isn't the word.... it really is hard to explain.

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    While there are classic episodes, like "Lisa Gets an A", "30 Minutes Over Tokyo", "Wizard of Evergreen Terrace", and "Married to the Mob", there is no way this is part of the classic era.
    Anyone who was around during this time I'm sure remembers how shocking episodes like "Homer Simpson in Kidney Trouble" and "Sunday Cruddy Sunday" were at the time. The stories, tone, and characterizations no longer felt like the same show. I first really noticed it at "Bart the Mother" where it felt like they were trying to do "Marge Be Not Proud" again but everything just felt off. The plot devolved into the egg lizard plot, which stole any heart from the story, plus it just wasn't a funny episode. Even the Troy video was weak.

    As the posts above alluded to, I also felt a difference as early as season 8. I agree, almost a darker tone. But it was still really funny and smart writing overall, and when it wasn't huge on laughs, the plots and characterizations were incredibly strong and consistent. Season 8 is great. I think "Bart Carny" in season 9 was the first blip I felt, where things started feeling truly wacky and off. You can feel the showrunner differences that season, since 4 different showrunners handled it overall. That's what made it such a transitional season. Then, season 10, it became a different show entirely. There is no emotional core to season 10 at all. Season 9 had "Lisa the Simpson", "The Two Nahasapeemapetilons", "Lisa the Skeptic", "Natural Born Kissers", and "Lisa's Sax", which had a heart. Season 10's best attempts at heart are "Bart the Mother" and "Make Room for Lisa" which are both pretty flat. Meanwhile, they have the first anti-heartfelt episodes where Homer is SUCH a prick, you kinda hate him ("Kidney Trouble", "Mom and Pop Art", "Sunday Cruddy Sunday", "Viva Ned Flanders").
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    Does Season 10 boast some quality episodes? Sure.
    Even some truly memorable moments like Homer trying (and failing) to assemble a barbecue pit.

    But is it Classic era-worthy? Nope. Not unless there's a different Season 10 that wasn't showrun by Mike Scully and doesn't feature tripe like Homer Simpson in: "Kidney Trouble" that I'm not aware of.

    And just because the drop in quality from Season 10 to Season 11 is greater than any other during the show's run doesn't mean that 10 still merits "Classic" consideration. It doesn't. (And yes, Season 11 truly is that bad.)
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    When I talk of classic or post-classic era, I just consider the love of lack of love that people have for a season, because for me are two absurd terms, altought I use it, like I said, according what a general consensous has about the seasons.

    So, classic seasons are just from season 1 to 8. But post-classic seasons started in season 11. I take seasons 9 and 10 as two of transition. But I lean to take season 9 closer to a classic, and season 10 closer to a post-classic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zelek View Post
    Yeah like everyone used to say 1-8 was the firm classic era, but now after those Youtube essays came out more "race to the bottom"/purity spiral fans are poppjng up saying things like "The show was already a wretched shitfest by season 7" or something, lol. Like the show's been meh for so long that now fans are trying to convince themselves that less and less of it was ever actually good.
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    ^^ At this point, I'm just waiting for someone to say that seasons 1 and 2 were the only good ones

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    I agree about that statement, although some of the episodes were pretty meh.



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