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    Quote Originally Posted by Beggs View Post
    So, now that it's official, what are the odds Treehouse of Horror XXX will be episode #666? That kind of opportunity doesn't come around every day.
    THOH XXX will actually be 665th in production order, since it has the production code YABF18. If we get 23 episodes in broadcast season 30 (making up for just 21 in season 29), then the 4th episode of season 31 will be 666th in broadcast order, and in recent years the THOH episode has been 4th to air in a season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaine View Post
    But I've heard from here that the Simpsons was ending? Would've been nice if the show ended on a round number, but I won't say no to more episodes. I just hope they pick up the quality.. something I ask like every time this show gets renewed.
    Maybe if you actually read the articles instead of pouting about us talkin about the simps ending you would know that this is part of the plan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wiley207 View Post
    Here's what Homer thinks of this news...


    But seriously, I heard that Disney and FOX want to see how profitable the new episodes are. They've finally been aware FOX has been losing money over the new episodes and their poor ratings, as if it were a stream of constant box-office bombs, and the fact that Disney has bought 20th Century Fox doesn't help much (as they are a separate entity from FOX Broadcasting.) If the low ratings and profits continue, Disney and FOX will pull the plug.
    Quote Originally Posted by wiley207 View Post
    Ah, but since Disney bought the 20th Century Fox properties, FOX has become aware of how in recent years, the show has been getting really lousy ratings and they are losing money over the new episodes. These days, the Simpsons only brings in money through merchandising and the reruns on FXX (seriously, the older episode reruns on cable pull in higher ratings than the new episodes do, and for good reason!) So FOX and Disney decided to renew the show for two more seasons to see how they perform. If they do as poorly as the previous episodes and seasons do, then they will consider pulling the plug. Seriously, even SpongeBob SquarePants is massively more popular than the Simpsons these days AND I heard the show has gotten good again, so that won't help the Simpsons much...
    Can I kindly ask where are you getting this info from cause from what I've heard their ratings have been better since and have been mentioned on the top watched shows often recently (Al Jean tweeted one saying thank you not long ago).













    Also this.

    Collier did not go into detail on the terms of the deal to keep “The Simpsons” but indicated that it was worth it for the studio to continue the series, which generates revenue from syndication in the U.S. and overseas. “Our deals with [the Fox TV studio] have been negotiated as such so we can sustain the franchises that are theirs,” he said.
    Source: https://www.latimes.com/business/hol...206-story.html

    It makes no sense to me how they would keep renewing something they are losing money over by putting more money into making new series if only re-runs are being profitable, and if they're getting really lousy ratings as well as wanting to cling on to the show too, it's not like Fox wouldn't be able to replace the show with something more profitable if that was the case?

    I dunno, I'm not saying you're wrong but I'm just interested to where this is coming from as it all contradicts otherwise.


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    Quote Originally Posted by BloodySimpsonChibi View Post
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    Surprised by how it gets high ratings when delayed by NFL football. You'd think a lot of people would just simply turn off the TV or change the channel after the game ends. But from what I saw, when that doesn't happen, the average new episode typically pulls in around between one to three million viewers, compared to in the past when it would often draw in way more than that.


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    @wiley207 That's not entirely unusual for just about all broadcast TV in this day and age. And it's not all that surprising given that "in the past" people only had TV and its regimented schedules to turn to for their entertainment and now we have a myriad of options on a plethora of streaming platforms.

    The one takeaway for me is that while the show has largely benefited from NFL lead-ins people have been sticking around for the most part through the episodes in question and this has led to Bob's Burgers performing decently as well.

    One other fact... The Simpsons has yet to fall below 2 million viewers for a single first-run episode. I've been expecting them to cross that threshold seemingly each of the past three seasons and they continue to hold the line on that point.

    Lastly, anyone that has been crowing about The Simpsons performing badly and getting "really lousy ratings" is pulling that number out of their proverbial ass. #5 in scripted for 18-49 in Season 30 isn't "really lousy ratings". Where it'll actually finish for the season (probably anywhere from #9-#12 overall) isn't "really lousy ratings". Hell, it's the polar opposite of "really lousy ratings".

    I'll go back to the Classic era heyday - and, yeah, while the show was commanding more viewers on a weekly basis back then (well, over 10 million per episode) - I want to frame this argument properly.

    Season 4 finished in a tie for 30th alongside Wings. Factor out 60 Minutes, Monday Night Football and the assorted movies and news shows and you have it finishing in a tie for 19th.

    Season 9 finished in a tie for 30th alongside Everybody Loves Raymond. Factor out the same non-scripted shows and you have it finishing in a tie for 22nd. King of the Hill actually did better than The Simpsons that year, believe it or not.

    Those are the only two seasons where The Simpsons cracked the Top 30 in broadcast once factoring in the non-scripted clutter. The show's current strong pace relative to everything else through its first 12 episodes of Season 30 may actually put it in position to have its best ratings performance ever.

    (And it may still pull that feat off and wind up with an episode that gets watched by less than 2 million people at the same time.)
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    SEASON 30 RANKINGS
    Bart's Not Dead - 2.5/5 / Heartbreak Hotel - 1.5/5 / My Way or the Highway to Heaven - 3/5
    THOH XXIX = Intrusion of the Pod-Y Switchers - 1.5/5 / Multiplisaty - 2.5/5 / Geriatric Park - 2/5
    Baby You Can't Drive My Car - 2/5 / From Russia Without Love - 3.5/5 / Werking Mom - 3/5
    Krusty the Clown - 4/5 / Daddicus Finch - 5/5 / 'Tis the 30th Season - 2/5 / Mad About the Toy - 1.5/5
    The Girl on the Bus - 2/5 / I'm Dancing as Fat as I Can - 4.5/5 / The Clown Stays in the Picture - 1.5/5
    101 Mitigations - 3/5 / I Want You (She's So Heavy) - 1/5 / E My Sports - 3.5/5
    Bart vs. Itchy & Scratchy - 4.5/5 / Girl's in the Band - 4/5 / I'm Just a Girl Who Can't Say D'oh - 1/5
    D'oh Canada - 2.5/5 / Woo-hoo Dunnit? - 3.5/5 / Crystal Blue-Haired Persuasion - 1.5/5


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    Yeah, that's what I was thinking about the whole ratings thing too because there's so many mediums now and catch up services that live TV isn't watched as much as it was when the only time you could see it was when it was on TV unless recorded it on a video tape but I think anything that's on TV now would have had even higher ratings had they have been on TV in the 90's.

    I can understand where people think that about the ratings though cause you hear so many people online saying things like how The Simpsons isn't what it used to be, how no one watches The Simpsons and like the one Al replied to from Pete Dickson saying a new season is unlikely so I can understand where people think this but I don't think it's accurate at all, it's just a big misconception I think because it's The Simpsons.

    I mean, they even get the highest rated scripted show on TV that week on all channels and yet people will still say that a new season is unlikely, if this was really the case there is no way on this earth they'd put money into making new episodes to lose money, they'd just keep the reruns going which wouldn't cost them anything compared to financing a new season, it makes no sense.
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    One thing that is ignored however is that in terms of average viewership, the show is only 60th. In terms of FOX shows, it ranks 7th, behind 911, Last Man Standing, Empire, The Resident, The Cool Kids, and The Passage.

    This is not a bad performance, and i'm not surprised the show was renewed. But it's sorta a stretch to say it's doing as well as it ever was.
    You're a dolt with the IQ of a peabrain that probably loves lowbrow sitcoms like The Big Bang Theory, Frasier and Seinfeld to not grasp the biting satire and wit of the classic 65 (Rugrats).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ramier Wolfcastle View Post
    THOH XXX will actually be 665th in production order, since it has the production code YABF18. If we get 23 episodes in broadcast season 30 (making up for just 21 in season 29), then the 4th episode of season 31 will be 666th in broadcast order, and in recent years the THOH episode has been 4th to air in a season.
    I doubt there will be a 23rd new episode this season just because there were only 21 last season.
    Assuming it ends with 22, that would be the 661th episode aired.

    The Television Academy has already announced that the 2019 Emmys are on Fox on Sunday 9/22. There are any number of options, including:
    (a) 10/20 (the last Sunday before Halloween, other than the scheduled date for World Series Game 5) will be episode 665;
    (b) THOH XXX will air on 11/3, and I wouldn't put it past Fox to do this as it would put it in November Sweeps;
    (c) the season will actually start before the Emmys, with the premiere following a Fox NFL doubleheader, the way Fox aired the season premieres of The Orville, so THOH XXX can air as the 666th episode on 10/19;
    (d) Fox airs a Simpsons doubleheader of new episodes either on or before 10/19 - the problem with airing two new episodes on 10/19 is, either you air a new episode at 7:30 when nobody is expecting it, or you move the Bob's Burgers Halloween episode (and yes, that's a "thing") to, say, 9:30, again, when nobody is expecting it, as well as airing THOH XXX at 8:30.

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    At the end of Season 32 I will be able to say that when I joined NHC, the show was only at the halfway point. Wow.
    Season 30 Ratings
    Bart's Not Dead C- Heartbreak Hotel ​D My Way or the Highway to Heaven ​D- Treehouse of Horror XXIX ​C- Baby You Can't Drive My Car ​B+ From Russia Without Love ​B- Werking Mom ​C Krusty the Clown ​B Daddicus Finch B+ 'Tis the 30th Season ​D+ Mad About the Toy ​C+ The Girl on the Bus ​C I'm Dancing as Fat as I Can ​C- The Clown Stays in the Picture ​C- 101 Mitigations C+ I Want You (She's So Heavy) ​C E My Sports ​B- Bart vs. Itchy & Scratchy ​C- Girl's in the Band ​B- I'm Just a Girl Who Can't Say D'oh ​B- D'oh Canada ​C- Woo-hoo Dunnit? ​B Crystal Blue-Haired Persuasion ​C+

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    Quote Originally Posted by Egg View Post
    One thing that is ignored however is that in terms of average viewership, the show is only 60th. In terms of FOX shows, it ranks 7th, behind 911, Last Man Standing, Empire, The Resident, The Cool Kids, and The Passage.

    This is not a bad performance, and i'm not surprised the show was renewed. But it's sorta a stretch to say it's doing as well as it ever was.
    That's an absolute fair comment, though I think it comes more from the extent that a lot of people say how the show is doing terrible to the point where it should end, like the tweet for example Al replied to is one example of many and there is a misconception in regards to this with The Simpsons.

    People say the show isn't doing well when it really is and it's far from not doing well, I don't think anyone would say it was doing as well as it ever was as when The Simpsons became a huge phenomenon it was unreal and is incredibly hard to not only reach those points but to sustain that too, it's just not doing bad or getting bad ratings as some people seem to make out it is.

    Also, you've got to bare in mind too this is a show on an international scale, so lets say for argument sake it wasn't doing well in the US (which it is but for example) it's still doing massively well in other countries, some that it's relatively new to I believe Pakistan or India being the most recent where it's also doing really well but I hear what you're saying and it's a completely fair comment.

    I think it's more to do with how The Simpsons gets so much stick to the point where it's apparently doing that bad and no one watches it anymore that it should be ended when in fact it's still doing fantastically well with getting the best improved ratings and lots of people enjoying it in recent years too than it has in a while, it's just those people don't shout about it so we don't really hear it lol

    Also, so many factors too as comparing ratings to a show that was not only massively huge but during a time when TV pretty much had to be watched live at the time is impossible to compare with a show that's not new anymore, isn't as big as it was during it's boom period and in a time where shows are watched online, streaming services, catch up services, boxes recording etc etc it's just not going to be the same but yeah, I completely hear you and I do feel your comment is very valid.

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    I have no reaction to the renewal, but I’m not surprised that the Simpsons will be continuing past the Disney acquisition. The main cast and the people that been working since the late 80s are lucky to make it this far, but their age is one big concern and hopefully we don’t lose a major cast or crew soon in the next couple years.
    Simpsons: 4 > 6 = 7 > 5 > 3 > 8 > 2 > 14 > 15 > 13 = 10 > 9 > 16 > 20 > 1 > 24 = 21 > 26 > 22 = 25 > 23 > 19 = 27 > 18 = 28 > 12 > 11 > 17 = 29

    Family Guy: 4 > 3 > 2 > 1 > 5 = 6 > 15 > 16 > 10 > 14 > > 7 = 11 = 9 > 8 > 12 = 13

    American Dad: 4 > 3 > 2 > 1 > 6 > 5 > 8 > 9 > 7 = 11 > 10 > 13 (so far) > 12

    The Cleveland Show: 2 > 1 > 4 > 3

    Futurama: 5 > 4 = 1 > 2 = 3 > 7 > 6

    Rick and Morty: 2 > 1 > 3

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    Quote Originally Posted by fas1997 View Post
    I have no reaction to the renewal, but I’m not surprised that the Simpsons will be continuing past the Disney acquisition. The main cast and the people that been working since the late 80s are lucky to make it this far, but their age is one big concern and hopefully we don’t lose a major cast or crew soon in the next couple years.
    To be fair, the deal isn't actually completed. There are a lot of legal things to work out here and there. When the takeover happens, they might just pull the plug. It could happen. I'm not saying it will.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brad Lascelle View Post
    One other fact... The Simpsons has yet to fall below 2 million viewers for a single first-run episode. I've been expecting them to cross that threshold seemingly each of the past three seasons and they continue to hold the line on that point.

    (And it may still pull that feat off and wind up with an episode that gets watched by less than 2 million people at the same time.)
    And wouldn't you know it... a mere FOUR days after I write the above The Simpsons draws its lowest-ever audience and does indeed fall below the 2 million threshold. "I'm Dancing as Fat as I Can" brought in a total viewer count of 1.75 million this past Sunday opposite the Grammys.

    Every other broadcast network wisely aired reruns opposite those awards and that may be something FOX ought to consider doing in the future as opposed to sending episodes out to die.


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    Didn't they burn off a couple of noteworthy episodes in the classic era as well, putting them up against something like award shows or election results that ended up winning the ratings in a landslide?
    A little less Generic than before.

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    How long until we get fractional ratings?
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    I realize this sounds bizarre, but I get a slight dopamine hit every time I read that The Simpsons has hit a new overnight ratings low.


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    I'm wondering when the show will finally get the axe. I'm struggling to picture it going beyond 32 seasons.


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    I imagine that it's getting another couple seasons due to the Disney buyout having not yet been completed.

    I do think, when it's final, the Simpsons will get the axe. It could even happen mid-season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Road Rage View Post
    I'm wondering when the show will finally get the axe. I'm struggling to picture it going beyond 32 seasons.
    The Simpsons voice actors will have forced to work remotely from the Retirement Castle by that time But seriously, it is unlikely that the show is ending anytime soon - what's Disney motto? To infinity and beyond! I'd rather believe that they are going to replace Dan Castellaneta with Seth MacFarlane than the other thing. The show will go on - even if all the main characters will be recast - whatever it takes.

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    I never thought this show would last this long ago and going strong too

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haoie View Post
    Did Moe ever get that cellphone?
    I think he has a smartphone by now (seen in some modern episodes) so yes, he's got one. Only thing missing is Bart owning a bear.

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    Considering that they featured episodes where Bart strands the family in Antarctica and grows a moustache through milk-induced accelerated puberty several seasons back, him receiving a bear has somehow become one of the more grounded plotlines utilizing the character up for potential use. And that's terrible.

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    There was the time when Homer befriended a bear though, that's kind of close enough.

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    After Season 32, how long does anybody think the series is going to last?



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