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    Quote Originally Posted by Brad Lascelle View Post
    Let's not get crazy here. Football playoff lead-ins ALWAYS help the show's viewership... whether the games run late or not. The ratings clearly indicate this because we get spillover from an invested football-loving audience. This easily offsets any potential viewers changing the channel due to the show not starting on time by, like, a 10:1 ratio.
    I suppose so, but then it screws up DVRs as well. Ever since Xfinity upgraded their system so you can only record past five minutes from the scheduled end time, it's gotten a bit more tricky.

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    Snoop's expression made me smile

    Why does Matt Groening's signature go under every character sheet, promo poster, book, piece of stock art, or other piece of merch (like say comic TPBs which list him as the author even though he didn't write a thing in it) in such a way that seems to imply he designed/drew/wrote the thing entirely by himself? Heck, half the non-family characters who were introduced in the early days were designed by Sam Simon and others. Makes the accusations of Groening's main job being the "face" of the show to give it cool-cred with other important figures like Simon getting pushed aside by creative politics seem somehow more believable.
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    it feels like Snoop Dogg's appearance is about a decade late

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    http://www.thefutoncritic.com/listings/20161214fox15/

    MARGE IS INSPIRED BY A JAPANESE BOOK ON MINIMALISM ON AN ALL-NEW "THE SIMPSONS" SUNDAY, JANUARY 8, ON FOX
    Author Joyce Carol Oates Makes a Guest-Voice Appearance
    When Marge becomes obsessed with a Japanese style of living, the Simpsons must part with any item that no longer brings them joy. For Homer, this means finding a new home for the family pig. For Lisa, it means saying goodbye to her beloved sax in the all-new "Pork and Burns" episode of THE SIMPSONS airing Sunday, Jan. 8 (8:00-8:30 PM ET/PT) on FOX. (SI-2806) (TV-PG D, L, V)
    Voice Cast: Dan Castellaneta as Homer Simpson; Julie Kavner as Marge Simpson; Nancy Cartwright as Bart Simpson and Nelson; Yeardley Smith as Lisa Simpson; Hank Azaria as Moe; Harry Shearer as Skinner; Tress MacNeille as Dolph; Pamela Hayden as Milhouse
    Guest Voice Cast: Joyce Carol Oates as herself


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    Wait, Plopper is back living with the Simpsons again?! I mean, I know this episode will probably not actually address what happened to him after the movie, but I actually want to see what the explanation is for bringing him back to living with the Simpsons is.

    Totally agree that Snoop Dogg seems like the kind of guest star they would've gone to appear on this show over a decade ago, now it just feels like they waited way too long. But at least his drugged out expression is actually pretty funny to me. I'll honestly be shocked and a little disappointment if Snoop Dogg doesn't have a single scene with Otto.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LosTickaToeRest View Post
    Snoop's expression made me smile

    Why does Matt Groening's signature go under every character sheet, promo poster, book, piece of stock art, or other piece of merch (like say comic TPBs which list him as the author even though he didn't write a thing in it) in such a way that seems to imply he designed/drew/wrote the thing entirely by himself? Heck, half the non-family characters who were introduced in the early days were designed by Sam Simon and others. Makes the accusations of Groening's main job being the "face" of the show to give it cool-cred with other important figures like Simon getting pushed aside by creative politics seem somehow more believable.
    Yeah, and those designs don't look very Simpsons-like to me. Give them fifth fingers and chins, and they would look like they came from some other cartoon!

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    Quote Originally Posted by LosTickaToeRest View Post
    Snoop's expression made me smile

    Why does Matt Groening's signature go under every character sheet, promo poster, book, piece of stock art, or other piece of merch (like say comic TPBs which list him as the author even though he didn't write a thing in it) in such a way that seems to imply he designed/drew/wrote the thing entirely by himself?
    In in his contract w/Fox to have his sig be part of all official advertising and merchandise.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rembrandt Q. Einstein View Post
    http://www.thefutoncritic.com/listings/20161214fox15/

    MARGE IS INSPIRED BY A JAPANESE BOOK ON MINIMALISM ON AN ALL-NEW "THE SIMPSONS" SUNDAY, JANUARY 8, ON FOX
    Author Joyce Carol Oates Makes a Guest-Voice Appearance
    When Marge becomes obsessed with a Japanese style of living, the Simpsons must part with any item that no longer brings them joy. For Homer, this means finding a new home for the family pig. For Lisa, it means saying goodbye to her beloved sax in the all-new "Pork and Burns" episode of THE SIMPSONS airing Sunday, Jan. 8 (8:00-8:30 PM ET/PT) on FOX. (SI-2806) (TV-PG D, L, V)
    Voice Cast: Dan Castellaneta as Homer Simpson; Julie Kavner as Marge Simpson; Nancy Cartwright as Bart Simpson and Nelson; Yeardley Smith as Lisa Simpson; Hank Azaria as Moe; Harry Shearer as Skinner; Tress MacNeille as Dolph; Pamela Hayden as Milhouse
    Guest Voice Cast: Joyce Carol Oates as herself
    wait do you mean no longer brings HER joy or the families? because considering that Marge wasn't so happy when Homer got the pig, and considering that Marge doesn't like Jazz, it sounds like another episode of "Marge being selfish"

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    Quote Originally Posted by ComicBookGal View Post
    it feels like Snoop Dogg's appearance is about a decade late
    Well, it's not gonna be the only cartoon or animated stuff he had a role in this decade. He had a voice role in TURBO and he actually guest starred in another cartoon, Sanjay and Craig (You might not like it that much, but I thought the episode where he guest starred is the best episode ever from that show) as a parody rapper named Street Dogg.
    Simpsons: 4 > 6 = 7 > 5 > 3 > 8 > 2 > 14 > 15 > 13 = 10 > 9 > 16 > 20 > 1 > 24 = 21 > 26 > 22 = 25 > 23 > 19 = 27 > 18 = 28 > 12 > 11 > 17 = 29

    Family Guy: 4 > 3 > 2 > 1 > 5 = 6 > 15 > 16 > 10 > 14 > > 7 = 11 = 9 > 8 > 12 = 13

    American Dad: 4 > 3 > 2 > 1 > 6 > 5 > 8 > 9 > 7 = 11 > 10 > 13 (so far) > 12

    The Cleveland Show: 2 > 1 > 4 > 3

    Futurama: 5 > 4 = 1 > 2 = 3 > 7 > 6

    Rick and Morty: 2 > 1 > 3

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    honestly, kind of looking forward to a snoop dogg appearance...

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    kind of a let down we have to wait longer for “The Great Phatsby”.



    So we have only four episodes left than we don't know the plot "22 for 30", "A Father's Watch" (The chess one, maybe?), "Moho House" and "Dogtown" (which could be a trilogy/quadrilogy episode but that sounds weird because this episode can be the season finale, unless they push it to season 29.)

    Looking forward to:
    -The Great Phatsby: Because Selman is the showrunner and it's a two-parter
    -Kamp Krustier: Because of David M. Stern
    -The chess one, I love the game and an episode about it is way overdue.
    -The Caper Chase: Mostly because I have read so many texts of Robert McKee that I actually care about his appearance, even if it's just a cameo.
    -There must be another Selman show, I suspecte is either "Kamp Krustier"* or "22 for 30"**

    * Because of the code WABF09. VABF09 (The Marge-ian Chronicles) and TABF09 ("Sky Police") are both selman episodes
    ** I don't know, it's just a feeling, It
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    The Simpsons - Season 28: Monty Burns' Fleeing Circus: C+ | Friends and Family: B+ | The Town: B+ | Treehouse of Horror XXVII: B- | Trust but Clarify: B- | There Will Be Buds: B+ | Havana Wild Weekend: B- | Dad Behavior: B | The Last Traction Hero: B |The Nightmare After Krustmas: B+ | Pork and Burns: B+ | The Great Phatsby: A- | Fatzcarraldo: B- | The Cad and the Hat: B | Kamp Krustier: B | 22 for 30: B+ | A Father's Watch: A- | Caper Chase: B- | Looking for Mr. Goodbart: A- | Moho House: C+ |
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    Quote Originally Posted by LosTickaToeRest View Post
    Why does Matt Groening's signature go under every character sheet, promo poster, book, piece of stock art, or other piece of merch (like say comic TPBs which list him as the author even though he didn't write a thing in it) in such a way that seems to imply he designed/drew/wrote the thing entirely by himself? Heck, half the non-family characters who were introduced in the early days were designed by Sam Simon and others. Makes the accusations of Groening's main job being the "face" of the show to give it cool-cred with other important figures like Simon getting pushed aside by creative politics seem somehow more believable.
    I think the solution is to add more signatures

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    Wikisimpsons sliding into Al Jean's DMs like it's no biggie https://simpsonswiki.com/w/index.php...te-TwitterPM-1

    This is bad precedent and un-wiki behavior if the information can't be independently verified

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    It occurs to me that with The Great Phatsby being a two-parter hour-long entry, and with the season being supposedly comprised of 22 episodes, I wonder if Selman is showrunning five entries this season instead of just four.

    For that matter, will they air all 22 episodes this season, or only 21? In order to keep the following season with the usual 7 holdovers, that is?

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    I think Jean confirmed at some point that the season will be 21 episodes (but with the two-parter there are technically the usual 22 episodes)

    I really hope we get a fifth Selman episode and I believe is likely since the The Great Phatsby was supposed to be just one regular episode. In fact I want it to be proof that he can come up with five episodes per season and this'll became a regular thing. But that seems unlikely

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patches O'houlihan View Post
    In in his contract w/Fox to have his sig be part of all official advertising and merchandise.
    I always thought it was Fox's idea, as a way to identify the legitimate merchandise.

    Strangely enough, the postage stamps he designed (that ended up costing USPS $1.2 million, mainly because (a) they looked like cheap knockoffs, and (b) they weren't "forever" stamps) don't have his name on them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ComicBookGal View Post
    wait do you mean no longer brings HER joy or the families? because considering that Marge wasn't so happy when Homer got the pig, and considering that Marge doesn't like Jazz, it sounds like another episode of "Marge being selfish"
    I beg to differ on this one. Let's face it... Plopper and jazz have NEVER brought Marge joy. The premise for this episode only really makes sense if Plopper no longer brings Homer joy and the saxophone no longer brings Lisa joy. After all, if it was simply about Marge no longer wanting noisy distractions in her home, Lisa could still play the sax at school. She wouldn't be looking to give it up to support the lifestyle change Marge has thrust upon the Simpson home.

    Curious to see what other Japanese minimalist lifestyle changes we see in this episode. Do they get rid of the beds and sleep on the ground? Does Marge retire the corn cob curtains from the kitchen? Do they keep their shoes off while at home like civilized non-animated families?
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    somehow I have a feeling that Lisa would only give it up to support her mother and only does it reluctantly

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Homer View Post
    Wikisimpsons sliding into Al Jean's DMs like it's no biggie https://simpsonswiki.com/w/index.php...te-TwitterPM-1

    This is bad precedent and un-wiki behavior if the information can't be independently verified
    why is it a bad precedent? also it's an admin posting it and we're a serious site. we don't report false news
    also why is the forum not sending me emails of posts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LetsPlayNintendoITA View Post
    why is it a bad precedent? also it's an admin posting it and we're a serious site. we don't report false news
    also why is the forum not sending me emails of posts?
    I would much rather rely on sources that are publicly available than some "Al Jean told us in secret, trust us " fooforaw. Your news blog has been a great resource, but asking us to just trust you guys is not something I'm 100% comfortable with. Plus, Jean's been great at giving out information publicly to anyone who asks him, so pressing him for intel in private and then using that as your source just seems like a needless hindrance. Siloing information like this strikes me as unfair to the rest of us in the community and undermines one of the core foundations of wikis.

    I don't know what's up with the email issue, sorry

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Homer View Post
    I would much rather rely on sources that are publicly available than some "Al Jean told us in secret, trust us " fooforaw. Your news blog has been a great resource, but asking us to just trust you guys is not something I'm 100% comfortable with. Plus, Jean's been great at giving out information publicly to anyone who asks him, so pressing him for intel in private and then using that as your source just seems like a needless hindrance. Siloing information like this strikes me as unfair to the rest of us in the community and undermines one of the core foundations of wikis.

    I don't know what's up with the email issue, sorry
    Hi, I'm the head admin of Wikisimpsons and I run the Twitter account, and created The Serfsons article.

    Al Jean is happy to talk to me directly. He's given us lots of details about episodes, voice actors, helped us fix the "issue" with two Howard K. Duffs and has been willing to help give us other details. I PM him directly for information now as I am guaranteed to get a response there, as he gets so many notifications that questions can get lost in them. I've had to ask questions multiple times to get a response from him in the past, and that's annoying for both parties involved.

    We received the information first hand, and that's the best source for us. A source I'm 100% happy with using. It's a more reliable source than using other websites for information. This has been proved very recently, with multiple websites claiming that Dan Fouts was to guest star in "Dad Behavior". This turned out to be false and Fouts wasn't even approached for the role, which Al Jean confirmed to me.

    We are slightly different from Wikipedia, often acting as a news site, confirming information before any other website. And I'm happy with that. Every bit of information we add into the wiki is checked and verified. If there's not a source I'm happy with, it's removed. And a first degree source is the best kind of source for me.

    If you have any doubt that "The Serfsons" is indeed the episode, I'm happy to provide you with a screenshot of the conversation confirming it. But I don't see it as necessary since we are so careful with adding information we know is accurate.

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    It's not that big of a deal, we'll just have to find out.

    But lol "Serfsons" though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Solar Dragon View Post
    Hi, I'm the head admin of Wikisimpsons and I run the Twitter account, and created The Serfsons article.

    Al Jean is happy to talk to me directly. He's given us lots of details about episodes, voice actors, helped us fix the "issue" with two Howard K. Duffs and has been willing to help give us other details. I PM him directly for information now as I am guaranteed to get a response there, as he gets so many notifications that questions can get lost in them. I've had to ask questions multiple times to get a response from him in the past, and that's annoying for both parties involved.

    We received the information first hand, and that's the best source for us. A source I'm 100% happy with using. It's a more reliable source than using other websites for information. This has been proved very recently, with multiple websites claiming that Dan Fouts was to guest star in "Dad Behavior". This turned out to be false and Fouts wasn't even approached for the role, which Al Jean confirmed to me.

    We are slightly different from Wikipedia, often acting as a news site, confirming information before any other website. And I'm happy with that. Every bit of information we add into the wiki is checked and verified. If there's not a source I'm happy with, it's removed. And a first degree source is the best kind of source for me.

    If you have any doubt that "The Serfsons" is indeed the episode, I'm happy to provide you with a screenshot of the conversation confirming it. But I don't see it as necessary since we are so careful with adding information we know is accurate.
    This doesn't really address my concerns, you're doubling down on "trust us, we have a better track record than the real media." I don't dispute that, and I don't doubt the information in this instance; it's the principle of the thing that irks me. Some annoyance seems like a small price for a source the rest of us can see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maury Rodristmas! View Post
    Al Jean answered me on Twitter that The Great Phatsby will be the first or second episode aired in 2017.
    That might explain why 1/15 will be a repeat of Havana Wild Weekend. You would think that Fox would air a new episode that night, since there's an NFL playoff game lead-in, but then again, since the game won't start until the game on CBS that day ends, that doubles the chance of a long game causing the show to start late.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maury Rodristmas! View Post
    Al Jean answered me on Twitter that The Great Phatsby will be the first or second episode aired in 2017.
    link of the tweet if possible? but yeah it's not the first. must be the one on 15th. he said two sure ones are 8th and 15th

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    makes sense with those 2 dates announced as the episodes for january and TGP being on january. thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by That Don Guy View Post
    That might explain why 1/15 will be a repeat of Havana Wild Weekend. You would think that Fox would air a new episode that night, since there's an NFL playoff game lead-in, but then again, since the game won't start until the game on CBS that day ends, that doubles the chance of a long game causing the show to start late.
    The NFL doesn't announce its playoff times/networks until the regular season is complete, which won't be until very early on January 2, at the latest. In the wild card and divisional rounds, you have two Saturday games (4:30 PM and 8 PM Eastern), then two Sunday games (1 PM and 4:30 PM Eastern). There are some constraints, however - if a team from the Mountain or Pacific Time Zone is hosting either of those two weekends, it CANNOT be the Sunday 1 PM game. Oddly enough, in the past 4 seasons, Fox has gotten the Sunday 4:30 PM game in the Wild Card Round (part of that was due to the Denver Broncos having the 4:30 Sunday game in the Divisional Round in each of the past 3 seasons). Even more odd, last season the Seattle Seahawks had two playoff games at 10 AM local time (they were on the road for both games).

    My educated guess is that the "least appealing" Wild Card matchup gets the 1 PM game on Sunday (or 4:30 PM Eastern on Saturday if the game is in the Mountain/Pacific Time Zone), giving the opposite conference the prime time game on Saturday or the 4:30 PM "lead-in" to primetime programming on Sunday. The conference that has the 1 PM game on Sunday in the Wild Card Round then gets the 4:30 PM Sunday game in the Divisional Round.

    As far as the Conference Championships go, that is an odd/even flip-flop. In odd-numbered years, the AFC Championship game is the later of the two games, which will be the case this year. I would expect the Fox Sunday night lineup to be all repeats on Jan. 22.

    As far as 1/8 and 1/15 go, I believe Fox is currently "banking" on having the 4:30 PM game on the 8th based on previous years, but that is always subject to change. In my opinion, if Fox gets a 4:30 PM game on 1/18, The Great Phatsby will air following the conclusion of NFL coverage. If not, Pork and Burns will air on 1/8, and The Great Phatsby will air on 1/15.

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    It just seems strange that, if Fox really wanted to air "The Great Phatsby" on 1/8 or 1/15, then why did it:
    (a) release press releases with "Pork and Burns" on 1/8 and "Havana Wild Weekend" on 1/15, and
    (b) also release press releases saying that new episodes of Son of Zorn would air both nights, when one would obviously have to be pre-empted for the second half of Phatsby?

    Keep in mind that the entire Sunday schedule is pre-empted on both 1/29 and 2/5.

    Also note that it is impossible for more than one Pacific/Mountain team per conference to have a home game in the first two rounds of the playoffs combined, since they are all in the NFC/AFC West and only the eight division champions get home games in those rounds (even if, say, the #1 NFC wild card team has a better record than the #4 NFC division champion). It wouldn't be that hard to "pencil in" the Sunday TV schedules in advance.



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