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    Quote Originally Posted by Startug View Post
    Animated shows don't come to home media in America from Netflix. I'm hoping they make an exception with Disenchantment as I love commentaries.
    as a post above you said Orange Is The New Black and Stranger Things came to DVD and Blu-ray in the states there might have been others. I hope it comes to Blu-ray I would buy it for the commentaries alone!

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    I said animated shows

    You're BoJack Horseman, no cure for that.

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    1x03 The Princess of Darkness
    A good, solid episode. The main trio has really grown on me. I like the scene where they’re huddling in Bean’s shirt, the actors have good chemistry together. The hoodlum characters and the bit with the exorcist and the other demons were all pretty great too. I thought it was a bit much to have Bean accidentally drown a lady (I didn’t catch that she’s later shown alive until I listened to the What A Cartoon podcast). The 711 sign gag is kinda stupid yet overly clever. The police lighting a candle to make a siren is a cute little gag, but having everyone pretend like they’re talking on walkie talkies or whatever is a bit much. Artwise, the backgrounds are still fantastic; there's a nice detailed shot of Dreamland from afar that's only on screen for 2 seconds. Also there’s a lot of “front-facing” Bean in this episode and I feel stupid for not realizing until now that Luci has no frontal pose, he’s purely flat like Mr. Game & Watch.

    1x04 Castle Party Massacre
    So far I’ve like the changing opening sequence with glimpses of settings that occur in the episode and it’s disappointing that this one spoils that gag with the donkey in the fountain. I hope that doesn't continue. Speaking of which, I like the jaunty title tune and I wish there was more lively music like that in the actual episodes. I noticed the episode descriptions have been mentioning Sorcerious and Odval and I wondered if those names had actually been uttered in the show to this point and, as if the show heard me, their names are stated like five times in the episode. Curious about the stepbrother who has yet to speak, he seems to be the only remaining secondary character without a real introduction. The story was good. The sequence of Bean asking various guys to dance was fantastic at showing her vulnerability, a testament to the writing, directing, and voice acing. I’m totally emotionally invested in her character now; previously I just kinda saw her as a brat. The spa subplot… sure is a subplot. Standout jokes: the guy in the window talking about setting down rules for the world, Zog’s sitcommish yell when he discovers the bodies in the fireplace.

    1x05 Faster, Princess! Kill! Kill!
    I love Bunty and her executioner husband Stan, some solid jokes with those two. The Hansel and Gretel stuff is alright but it implies all fairy tales are real and my concern is thatif the show leans too hard into that it's just going to be, like, an edgier Shrek. The cotton candy looked really bad. I complain about Tress MacNeille a lot but I love her crazy old witch laugh.

    1x06 Swamp and Circumstance
    This episode starts out with some really crummy animation of people walking that continues throughout. I don't know if I just didn't notice before or because I watched it on a different TV with that motion smoothing shit or what. Then there's that "wheat/what" conversation ... not a great start! I was so curious about the stepbrother and it's just Tress Macneille doing her usual boy voice, what a letdown. Dankmire was pretty disappointing. They've done a number of "weird other species" jokes with Oona so I feel like Dankmire society should have been a lot weirder and interesting. Instead, it's just... they're boring, formal, like mud, and that seems to be it. Also, "Muddruckers?" Seriously?? And what I assume is a Deliverance reference in 2018? Two jokes I did like: Derek's toast and "I was just giving orders!" Also, Chaz was also the spa guy.. maybe they should give this guy a character trait beyond "vaguely creepy" if he's going to be appearing a lot. Worst episode so far.

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    https://twitter.com/disenchantment/s...79348109729792

    Looks like we'll have three more seasons of Disenchantment everyone !

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    That is great news. Hoping the next season won't be too far away.

    Oh, and I liked that Dankmire episode, btw. Always loved some good world building and I think that this one was interesting (visually their society is heavily influenced by ancient China but they have eastern european-like accents which I think was an interesting touch as it makes them a little more colorful). The show hasn't been great at world building thus far but seeing how things developed with the last three episodes I think there will be a lot more of that in the near future.

    On a related note, did they retcon the starting conflict between Dreamland and Dankmire? In the episode it all goes to crap and Dankmire declared war on their neighbor kingdom, but in one of the last episodes Oddval (I think) said that they couldn't risk starting a war with Dankmire when the issue of two queens arose and it was suggested they got rid of Oona. Thought that was a bit odd.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CousinMerl View Post
    That is great news. Hoping the next season won't be too far away.

    Oh, and I liked that Dankmire episode, btw. Always loved some good world building and I think that this one was interesting (visually their society is heavily influenced by ancient China but they have eastern european-like accents which I think was an interesting touch as it makes them a little more colorful). The show hasn't been great at world building thus far but seeing how things developed with the last three episodes I think there will be a lot more of that in the near future.

    On a related note, did they retcon the starting conflict between Dreamland and Dankmire? In the episode it all goes to crap and Dankmire declared war on their neighbor kingdom, but in one of the last episodes Oddval (I think) said that they couldn't risk starting a war with Dankmire when the issue of two queens arose and it was suggested they got rid of Oona. Thought that was a bit odd.
    I'm glad you noticed. I was wondering about this too. "Swamp and Circumstance" (1DNT03) was supposed to be the third episode, but ended up being pushed back to episode 6. I'm not sure if that's a Netflix problem or can be blamed on the part of the creators.

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    Either that or the creators asked for Netflix to treat them like fox for old times sake

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    1x07 Love’s Tender Rampage
    This episode mostly sucks. I don’t dislike Elfo but man oh man, listening to him constantly lying is just not entertaining. His voice is too annoying, jokes riffing on the “my girlfriend who lives in Canada” trope are hacky as hell, and it feels like the show's just going through the motions. It's also a bit insulting for us to have to assume Bean is dumb enough to believe him for the story to work (it’s explained as an effect of the well-animated drug trip, but still) and I feel her plan at the end (which hinges entirely on everybody taking a deep breath at the same time) could've been written less flimsily. Meriken pretending to be sad is funny, though it feels like I missed an episode where they established he’s still around. I really like the concept of Tess having a magic crystal ball for an eye, I hope they keep her around. Some other stuff I liked: the trio being thrown in the plague pit, the “going on a mission” song, the herald guy who is becoming my favorite character.

    1x08 The Limits of Immorality
    This episode is fantastic, and it’s really clarified my thinking about the series as a whole. This is more in line with what I was expecting from this show: going on quests, exploring new lands, an emphasis on the show's lore, that kind of thing. Prior episodes have generally just been sitcom plots with a medieval twist and while they’re funny, in hindsight I think that’s why I’ve found the show somewhat lacking. Now this episode comes along and says “ok, well here’s what this show could be” and my interest has been reinvigorated. I think serialization is overrated but I do like the episode’s heavy reliance on continuity and that there’s been an overarching plot going on without me fully realizing it (ah, so that’s why they’re still drawing Elfo’s blood). It’s much funnier than Futurama’s “The Why of Fry” which is similarly lore-heavy but mostly an infodump with an occasional wisecrack from Fry. The opening is quite beautiful, ruined by an establishing shot of the town with background characters not moving or making any noise. Whenever the Simpsons are outside you can usually hear birds chirping and stuff; is foley an unaffordable luxury for Netflix? I’m glad that the witch’s sister and Big Jo are both still alive (isn't anybody in this dad-gummed cemetery dead?!) because it’s too early in the show to be killing off its few side characters and I didn’t care for the lazy cruel ending of “Faster Princess Kill Kill.” Good jokes: “rest of newt,” “As a friend and lover,” “piping hot suckhole,” the single trap with two parts (feels Pythonesque), “Find him, and it, and them! And maybe on the way, yourselves,” Sorcerio looking quite comfy in the griffin’s arms.

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    I was thinking of this show and I'm quite surprised there hasn't been any news or development in such a long time.

    Last thing I heard about the show was that it will return in late September, well over a year after it's debut. The hiatus break has been long already and I'm honestly a little surprised, especially when other notable animated Netflix programming like 'The Dragon Prince' and 'She-Ra And The Princesses Of Power' that premiered around the same time have more material (two seasons while Disenchantment isn't even done with the first) and without any content to tie viewers over during the wait it feels like it's been mostly forgotten).

    Has there been any new stuff as of recently at all?

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    Netflix app claims Part 2 will arrive September 20th
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    Netflix sucks in this regard. They hardly promote shows after their initial debut and leave such a long gap that the audience usually assumes it has been cancelled or they forget about it. Arrested Development season 5, for example, had a 10 month gap and Netflix never made it clear that the season was split in 2. As is, it just seemed like a weird ending and then with little to no fanfare the season concluded.

    You wouldn't know it with how Netflix has been, but Disenchantment isn't just returning for 10 episodes, but another 20 episodes have been ordered. So the series actually will have had 40 episodes by 2021!
    UP AND ATOM!

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    tuca and bertie gets axed and this garbage survives lmao

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    Were you meaning to drop that in the Paradise PD page?

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    that show will receive the amount of attention it has ever deserved and that is nil

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    That's fair, at least you're honest on your opinion of Disenchantment and actually give it out, which I guess deserves a chance more than PD. Thank you.

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    Disenchantment's renewals happened months ago, so there is no real connection to today's news. For all we know, the show might end after the 40 episode contract.

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    It's strange how the show seem to be handled with such unsurety. I thought there would be more confidence behind the project and that there would at least be 20+ episodes released by this point, but hopefully the extended hiatus means more quality episodes.

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    I think the eps are completed and Netflix is sitting on them.

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    I'm still confused as to whether or not the new episodes constitutes the second half of season one, or if it's considered season two... though I think it's the former?

    either way, I've been waiting for this for a long time, so I'm excited

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    @Walid, from what I've heard the upcoming batch is definitely the second half of season 1 (as they stated the first season is not completed yet).

    It's odd how long they are taking to release the next part of the story but still, I'm looking forward to it. The show not amazing so far but it's quite good and interesting & I'm sure it will improve the further it gets.
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    i hope dark homer finishes his review of season 1

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    teaser for the new episodes with a trailer supposed to drop next week

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    It's not much but at last there is at least something new prior to the release of the second half of the season. Good to know there's gonna be a trailer soon but really, it should've come much earlier.

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    that's what I was thinking; Netflix is strange when it comes to stuff like this. the trailer and announcement for season 3 of 13 Reasons Why, for instance, came out about 2-3 weeks before the season itself. Disenchantment came out over a year ago and we know next-to-nothing; we're not even getting a trailer until about 2 weeks before it's released.

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    What a coincidence! I was just re-watching the first part of the first season!

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    The official trailer for Season 1 Part 2.


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    I don't like this show. We're on episode 7 and I can't watch it all in one go, it's so boring and I hate elfos voice. I swore I would stick through and see the first half but it's a slog. I also really really hate the music. The theme is perhaps the worst theme tune I have ever heard.
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    One complaint I keep seeing about the show is the shoddy job done with, or rather lack of, sound design (such as background noises). I haven't really noticed that but maybe it is something that they could improve upon.

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    1x09 To Thine Own Elf Be True
    Didn’t have Netflix for a while (ed. note: this was written in April) so I rewatched this to refresh my memory before the finale. This time I noticed the music more and it’s great, especially the somber end credits. I’m also noticing the groanier jokes sticking out more the second time (Sorcerio riffing on the laziness of Elfo’s name feels like a Modern Simpsons joke). I continue to love everything about Elfwood, the battle sequence was great, and I like the “screw the audience” spirit of continuing to delay the reveal of Elfo’s parentage. “We’ll get you a new pet” is the perfect stinger on Zog’s heartfelt confession. The ending is touching and feels earned.

    1x10 Dreamland Falls
    I like Dagmar’s character and even though I already knew she’d come back thanks to an official Netflix Twitter account like a month after the show premiered I was still wonderfully surprised by the mislead. It’s weird to see an actual season finale of a Matt Groening show with a bunch of cliffhangers. I’m still pissed Futurama never paid off the “she must be the Other One” tease. They were brought back so many times but I guess doing “what if Fry was a fish” was more important. If Disenchantment keeps it up I’ll be satisfied. Good lines: “What do you call this?” “Affection.” / “I deserve this fate for doubting you!” / “Women aren’t permitted to address the council.” I wish I had more insightful commentary on the show, sorry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Homer View Post
    It’s weird to see an actual season finale of a Matt Groening show with a bunch of cliffhangers.
    The season not being over yet explains that. The second half got released yesterday but I have yet to check it out so I don't even know if the end of this batch is even the end of the season (as said before it's so odd to be one year later and the season isn't even done).



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