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    Rate and Review: "Gorgeous Grampa" (RABF06)

    March 3, 2013: The family discovers that Grampa was once a famous professional wrestler who went by the name "Glamorous Godfrey." Bart finds this awesome enough to try to emulate, but Homer disapproves. Discuss!

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    ACT ONE:

    Like the 4 other Selman episodes, there was no opening, but this time we get a couch gag. The TV credits are missing, though.

    So, after a time wasting reality show gag, we start off with Homer randomly bidding on a $1,000 locker. After discovering a bunch of fruity crap, they think Grampa's gay. Uhh.. what? And they try to find him a boyfriend. Double what?

    Guess who the potential boyfriend turns out to be - Smithers, who's nothing but a gay joke now. Yawn. Well, at least the wrestler plot was established early.

    ACT TWO:

    Seriously? Mr. Burns and Grampa don't remember each other from the Flying Hellfish days? Don't they remember how they hate each other's guts?

    Nope - we have Mr. Burns acting nice for some reason and we get a cringeworthy musical number. Seriously - Mr. Burns knows who Eric Cartman is? AND he knows the Terminator movies? I could comment further, but this is starting to angry up the blood.

    ACT THREE:

    So... without warning, Bart is starting to become "bad" because of one wrestling match he watched. And Mr. Burns wants Bart and Abe to wrestle.

    Yup, sounds like a typical new episode to me.

    ACT FOUR:

    Marge says something about Bart turning bad, so Abe remakes their personas with props I guess he had carrying around with him. Then some ending happens and I want to barf.

    OVERALL:

    Oh, Matt Selman. You've stooped so low after The Book Job. It's not as bad as that fucking awful cruise ship episode, but it's still awful. I'll say it before and I'll say it again: Modern Simpsons does NOT rock! 2/5 (D)
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    I liked it. The song was a nice touch, and the baseball scene was funny. Only complaint was the ending which seemed a bit rushed.

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    Pretty good by today's standards.
    A few tidbits I liked:
    *I don't know what that couch gag was...
    *Some good sign gags (porn hoarders, anyone?)
    *David Crosby/John Swartzwelder visual cameo!
    *Homer showing off his money to no one (Cash is King!). good cheat
    *"If you don't want to die alone, come out now!"
    *Bart mocking over-explanation of joke
    *"That cocaine I ordered is taking forever"
    *Storage Battles: Tahoe

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    I loved this episode. Thought it hit throughout, and was a ton of fun. I also liked how there was no random side plot thrown in.


    -Loved the Mr Burns song.

    -Be idea of Bart being so into being a "heel" was fun.
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    I only caught a bit of this one (from the storage wars part to the part with Smithers). Was it any good?

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    I actually thought that was one of the best episodes in a while. My only real complaint was the opening and a couple of the jokes here and there. And surprisingly none of them were cringe worthy for me and I actually chuckled a few times. The storage wars adds appearing at the bottom of the screen at random times were slightly irritating though. The plot was not insanely wacky and they actually had some continuity here, which I like. 4/5


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    Reality show opening? What are you talking about Irvine! It's a meme!

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    I meant the show they were watching in the beginning, @bradbradford.

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    Quote Originally Posted by irvine_11 View Post
    I meant the show they were watching in the beginning, @bradbradford.
    Whoops! That makes sense! My mistake!

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    3/5 It seemed kinda average for the era. Much of the weakest stuff was at least gotten out of the way early. The couch gag, if that's even what that was, was garbage. Homer flipping through the reality shows with Lisa making weird noises was awkward and went on too long; another bad list joke everyone used to go on about a couple years back. The whole Grampa is gay and the family tries to out him runner was just dumb and nearly completely humorless. I did think it picked up when Mr. Burns got involved. I'm not exactly sure if it does, but Grampa being a professional wrestler has to destroy continuity so if you still or ever cared about that you probably won't enjoy this. "Raging Abe Simpson" did the whole Bart finds out his Grampa had a cool past angle much better which was most of this story. Still, the story flowed well and was more or less enjoyable from act 2 forward, for me anyway. I did enjoy the wrestling terminology and Burns calling everyone a moron deadpan worked for me. That Burns song was probably the best song on the show since "Homer the Father." Some of the drawings of Burns were very fun to look at, a rather lively sequence. Not too much more to point out that wouldn't just be picking out which gags worked for me and which didn't.


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    I kind of liked it. Maybe I liked it because I used to be a big wrestling fan, but I liked it. I didn't love it, though. There were some things in it that were very stupid, I thought, but it was still good. The Mr. Burns song was good too, I must say. I wondered "How does he know who Megatron is?" because, come on, he's Mr. Burns, but I excused it because I liked the song so much.

    Still, not great, so it's another 3/5 for me. (by Season 24's standards, that's pretty good though)

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    Initial thoughts: Well, for those of you who are tired of seeing Homer get a new job every week... this should be a treat! Oh, ho! This week it's grandpa! WHAT A SWITCH-A-ROO!

    -1 point from the final score already for this terrible couch gag. It's my review, and that's the way it is.

    ACT ONE:
    MORE POP CULTURE REFERENCES! Just what I always wanted from The Simpsons! Yay!
    As much as I hate the reference, they are dead on about the appraisers on these shows.
    Oh look... everybody has "game shades," and they're all using their catch phrases and character traits to bid. Now, that's some funny stuff right there.
    Abe gay? Well, after all... he did pose as a cabaret singer during WWII.
    Just to point this out, so far in the series... Maggie is the only one in OFF who hasn't had some type of gay connotation attached to them. NEXT WEEK, GAY BABIES!
    Homer: "My gay dad is gay for gays" How long did it take you to come up with that gem, writer's room? HUH?
    Marge is using Craigslist to find Abe a man? Whoa. The skeeziest of all hook-up sites.
    ...and Smithers shows up. That was unpredictable!

    ACT TWO:
    Granpa as a wrestler... let's see how this goes.
    So... was Grandpa a songwriter in the '50s or a wrestler... or working at a smokestack factory? I guess this week he was a wrestler. Also, suddenly, Mr. Burns is a fan of Abe's when a few weeks ago he was abusing him in the early '60s? Lovely.
    A Mr. Burns song... with an Eric Cartman reference. Ungh. I take that back, a shitty, self-referential Mr. Burns song with an Eric Cartmam reference. Double ungh.

    ACT THREE:
    I know how those old wrestlers feel... I'd rather be napping right now as well.
    Hmmm. Grandpa's suddenly pretty pliable for an old man.
    The trophy gag. Probably the best thing in the episode so far.

    ACT FOUR:
    Is it just me, or does the design on Bart's wig look absolutely horrible?
    Mr. Burns: "I wrote a song for you! When am I ever going to use that again?" Hopefully, never.


    Well, that was a whacky series of events that happened and somehow got tied together. BUT HEY! It wasn't bad as a talking bar rag... so 6/5, rounded down to 5/5 for the couch gag.
    No.
    3/5, and the deduction for the couch gag... 2/5.

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    Haven't seen it yet, but... Grampa's gay?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diversity Pumpkin View Post
    Haven't seen it yet, but... Grampa's gay?
    It's how the plot gets rolling.

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    as soon as chief wiggum shot a second gun, being a rifle or whatever, i thought, "i bet he's going to shoot a rocket launcher next". they really don't know how to tell original jokes anymore, let alone jokes in general. bart's line about marge thinking it's cool to have a gay family member was a good observation on the situation, but they seriously had to have her whisper right after "this will show helen lovejoy about aklsjdflksjf" I really don't understand how they can't just edit their writing to make these jokes work. ESPECIALLY in these last five years, it feels like the joke execution is all first draft material. there is really no excuse for it, even if they're just making these episodes to make more money. It's a quick simple edit.

    also, it took me a while to realize lisa was reacting to all the reality shows on tv as homer was changing the channels. it seriously sounded robotic or as if it was coming from the tv itself.

    i don't know, the story was eh. felt like an idea out of the comics, but it came off too transparent. it tries to glamourize the concept of "wanting to be hated" which we know is wrong and then we have to watch the characters become stereotypes for that concept just so they can realize that they should be nice. that's such a weak theme. I did like homer's line about burns, grandpa, and bart being adversaries for him and how it all kind of formed together was ok but other than that there was just no substance


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    Quote Originally Posted by Diversity Pumpkin View Post
    Haven't seen it yet, but... Grampa's gay?
    He's gay for gays

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    That was almost horrible. Fourth worst this season.

    Marge wanting Abe to be gay... really? And Bart being a dick most of the episode. Meh, pretty bad. I've seen some worse, but this comes kinda close to one of them.

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    I thought it was pretty funny had a couple chuckles. 4/5. That being said there were a couple problems/annoyances. First off Marge's characterization was WAYYYY off and Julie was doing great a couple episodes back and now we get another lousy Kavner performance. Mr. Burns knowing all of those pop culture evil people is too annoying given his character but the song was okay (not "See My Vest" good but good). But yeah I chuckled a few times and just proves that Selman NEEDS to take over full time!

    Oh and once again Modern Simpsons can't keep their characterizations straight. So in this episode Burns likes being hated and despised but in "The Fool Monty" he wants people to like him? Umm...ok? Also Burns and Abe friends yet in "To Cur With Love" and "The Flying Hellfish" they hate each other?
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    This was pretty weak for a Selman episode, though I will admit to having higher expectations. I saw 'Day the earth stood cool' on before this, and in comparison, it was evident this wasn't being driven by the passion of Matt Selman's "nerd hobby" interests. We had a pretty good inclusion of Mr Burns tonight, and I enjoyed his song, but I kinda wish they'd explore his evil lifestyle a little bit more.
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    I laughed at all the wrestling jokes and how mr. burns was addressing the TV crowd.

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    Well, ya'know if you stay positive and forget about trivial things like "proper characterization," "Satire," and "emotional depth" watching new Simpsons episodes can be a seemingly enjoyable lie.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Tubbb! View Post
    Just to point this out, so far in the series... Maggie is the only one in OFF who hasn't had some type of gay connotation attached to them. NEXT WEEK, GAY BABIES!
    I just wanted to expand this:
    Marge: Kissed by Gaga in "Lisa Goes Gaga."
    Homer: "Three Gays of The Condo;" kissed by Karl in "Simpson and Delilah."
    Bart: Homer is sure Bart is gay in "Homer's Phobia;" multiple instances of him cross-dressing.
    Lisa: She is involved in a three-way relationship with two other women, as shown during the Christmas Card montage in "Holidays of Future Passed."
    Abe: The family is sure Abe is a closeted homosexual after finding questionable items in his storage locker in "Gorgeous Grampa."

    Can anybody think of any others?
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    This Sucked and here is why

    Gorgeous Grandpa Review
    Opening
    You have got to be kidding me.
    Act 1
    Well its starts out with a funny Lisa noise gag. Then is followed by a spot on parody of Storage Wars (a show I watch) but I think that the parody when a little bit too long for its time slot. After that it shows homer at a storage auction. This wasn’t really that funny to me. But I did like that Kent Brockman was running the auction butt unlike the earlier sound gag went to long and then was followed by more unnecessary musical guidance. But I liked that we finally go to the heart of the plot almost as I was going to stop paying attention. But the fact that the family would think that Grandpa is gay just down right sickens me and then is followed by the overwhelmingly overused gay dream of homer. I MEAN SERIOUSLY THIS EPISODE SO FAR IS MAKING HOMER OUT TO HIS DUMBEST THAT HE HAS EVER BEEN IN THE SHOWS ENTIRE HISTORY and that is saying some thing considering how far they have dropped homers character from the rag episode. I like that we (in the first time in forever it seems like) that we get back to Mr. Burns and Smithers implied to be gay. And then Marge WANTED Abe to be gay first of all that’s is just a stupid thing to say and secondly that turned out to be the worst act break I have ever seen on this show
    Wow what a waste of my time for this act overall F
    Act 2
    When it gets back it starts with an off plot comment followed by an unfunny Abe Simpson rant so far this is even worse than the last act it almost makes me want to turn off my TV in disgust. But then I found I was right because it is followed by a downright stupid screaming act between Abe and Burns, so far no laughs in the entire episode so far. After this the episode has a bland and tasteless conversation and flashback with Burns and Abe just another waste of my time. Then we have a pointless song by Burns which also takes way to long and is not even close to being funny and then we have a less aggravation act break joke but still at the end of this act 0 laughs
    Overall act rating F- (so bad it makes the rag episode look like Mr. Plow)
    Act 3 (A.K.A. waste of my life Part 3)
    When the commercial (sadly) ends we are shoved with the crap of Al Jean and the hole he is digging with this season. When it started back up it was with a stereotypical pro wrestling comment by Lisa (actually Al Jean) and at this point right now I hope this show gets cancelled because I would rather watch the anything besides this piece of crap. Then after the fighting scene we have Bart in a rehash of the daredevil episode imitating something he sees but this time there is a twist. The twist is that this time instead of laughing it made me regret even turning my TV on today. And then I get called a moron by Burns. This is the one thing the Simpsons have never done and what got the Cleveland show cancelled it is that you should never insult the audience no matter how small the percentage and finally all jean has with this episode made himself WORSE than Scully and I cant stand Scully
    Overall act rating. F (surprising isn’t it!)
    Act 4 (sadly)
    As I type my longest review (currently 614 words) I realize that when the show comes back on I have to waste 5 more minutes watching this so I’m starting this act with a good attitude. Well the attitude of goodness is dead because I still haven’t laughed and I know that this episode is not going to get a single laugh out of me. Then when Grandpa uses heel the episode finally gets my attention (because it is a behind the curtain terms that hardcore fans only know) well thankfully this episode ended ☺ .
    Overall act rating F
    Overall episode rating F


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    You thought this was worse than the rag episode? I hope you're joking.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Tubbb! View Post
    Can anybody think of any others?
    Patty is openly gay.
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    The writing here is really on auto-pilot. You're hit with rampant, sometimes obtuse, sometimes overtly obvious pop culture references from the get-go. A flash flood of fake reality shows with Lisa's split-screen reactions was an indicator of some poor pacing problems from the start - it's Love is a Many-Splintered thing all over again. Grampa as a wrestler, eh? Well, fine. Even if it was explained way too quickly (because they had to have every Hank Azaria character shout out its catchphrase as a bidding call in the storage unit auction), the wrestler angle could have been mildly interesting.

    Trying to find Grampa a gay boyfriend was quirky, if not slightly overdone. Burns' involvement was spotty at best; his references to other evildoers seem a bit too current for my tastes. What about Snidely Whiplash, or Bluto, or Dick Dastardly, or Hamlet's Claudius? Not Cartman or the Terminator.

    I kind of like Harry Shearer's Burns voice; as he's slowly becoming closer to 108, he sounds closer to his character's age. It adds a flair of authenticity, like how the guys who've played Grampa in the German dub have almost always been in their 70's or 80's (that's why there've been so many actors).

    Bart's performance and characterization was off. Marge's characterization was off. The ending was rushed. It really feels as if the VO's recorded their lines asynchronously; I know that's almost always the case, but it's really jarring here. The emotions in the kitchen scene near the end of the episode feel so off from line to line. I could go on and on. This episode wasn't hard to watch, but it's very hard to like.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Squid View Post
    Patty is openly gay.
    Gah! How could I forget that!

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    This is the one thing the Simpsons have never done and what got the Cleveland show cancelled...
    Link to confirm, please? I want to believe this so bad.

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    Mona's not gay but she sleeps around and is a demon in the sack. Based on Holidays of Future Passed, Maggie takes after her quite a bit there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tubbb! View Post
    Link to confirm, please? I want to believe this so bad.
    i forgot the word probably between what and got



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