At least we don't have to put up with a remake of something like Space Jam.
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At least we don't have to put up with a remake of something like Space Jam.
You know someone at WB wanted to argue a Lebron James Space Jam 2
space jam owns
Every cartoon, ever.
I don't know how anyone can like Space Jam, other than to masturbate vigorously to Lola.
you watch a show about ponies
yeah, that's pretty much the only reason i watch cartoons in general
Last edited by Handsome B. Wonderful; 06-28-2012 at 12:23 AM.
Well since I recently bought the DVDs and I was gonna post in the old Critic thread, I'm just gonna show my support here.
There seems to be some dislike for The Critic here, and I could have agreed based on what I remember seeing around 2003, but watching the show again I strongly disagree. Granted the second season seems to be a step down so far but I think with a reboot they could fix some of the problems ( mainly that they allowed a lot of wackyness/surreal stuff in the show and it was more and more a family show). But I think as a whole, The Critic could be a show that shows a lot of heart and be a margin from all the cartoon families Fox seems to be pleased with (as good as Bob's Burgers is, I had difficulty watching at first because of that simple premise). And they could have better movie parodies with updated humour. It's not gonna happen anyway...
I watched Mission Hill recently (well last year) and I just think they should continue from where they left off. It doesn't feel so dated and it's finally a show that appeals to the 18-25 demographic, the one that's not really represented in any adult cartoons (well maybe beside Futurama but that's more of a sci-fi show).
And maybe a Flintstones reboot wasn't such a bad idea mainly without Seth Macfarlane as the head (based on how he does with a lot of shows under his supervision). He may stop all the cartoons he has now and only work on The Flintstones reboot and make without the shock humor and wacky pacing. But even then I would only watch some episodes out of curiosity and that would be it.
This should be probably be in its own thread but since people talked about it here let me go on this little rant. The Looney Tunes Show is a really, REALLY strange show. I don't know if there are just way too many writers and executive giving different opinions or what's the problem but it seems that it's going on opposite directions in the writing and sometimes even in the animation. For the most part it's this dull sitcom with long pauses and boring dialogues but then there are occasional moments in which the animation or even the writing do work and you really see the potential of the show.
I happen to like some of the Merrie Melodies. Granted, the one with Elmer singing about a cheese sandwich is kind of weird but I think it's funny enough, a little like Homer dating a piece of ham in Moe Baby Blues. I totally dislike rap so I don't enjoy Sam's one and I'm not really a fan of the Marvin the Martian disco thing. But then we have Be Polite, which is kind of nice, and the really, really good ones. I mean, how great is the Queso Bandito one? Giant Robot Love is another fantastic one, both the lyrics and the animation. Daffy's totally in character there. And I actually think We Are In Love is funny and the designs and animation look much better than the ones we usually see in the show. The pacing and the jokes are also crazier. On a simmilar note President's Day one is very funny and reminiscent of good old Animaniacs.
It's funny cause while I enjoy Lola Bunny in these videoclips I usually find her irritating and not very funny in the actual episodes. In fact, I find her character extremely strange. Like they added a female character just to make things a little more P.C. but then she's really dumb but pretty. But in a way, even if I find her irritating for the most part, her character has grown on me a little. At least this personality is wackier and feels more 'looney tunes' than her maybe more sympathetic but extremely generic characterization in Space Jam.
On top of all this we had a couple of episodes that are actually funnier than most of the others cause they really included some slapstick and funny animation. Those were Devil Dog and Casa de Calma. The last one was totally different in its looks and animation compared to the rest of the episodes and was the one that actually felt a little more like the old Looney Tunes.
I happen to find the Road Runner shorts pretty decent. Don't get me wrong, I'd also prefer them to be on 2D animation but since they were pretty much Chuck Jones' sons I guess CGI looks less 'imitative' of his style, while the other characters can get some influences from Clampett, Jones or Freleng in their look and animation. At the very least the writing of the Road Runner segments is the only one that is usually pretty faithful to the original shorts, and sometimes it's pretty funny in its own way.
Overall I find the show a little boring and lacking good dialogues and characterization. They certainly did little favour to Porky Pig making him a pathetic nerd. But Daffy usually provides some laughs even if he's way too dumb in this show and I guess it's less offensive than Baby Looney Tunes, Loonatics or even Space Jam overall. It's just that it hurts me when these occasional moments show how much better it could really be.
Incidentally Duck Dodgers was actually a good series. Maybe not classic, but it really captured the spirit of the original Looney Tunes much better than any other cartoon they had done with them after their classic era. It provided really good laughs, the characters felt true to themselves an the animation was pretty good for tv standards.
My Simpsons homage!
The Critic - would actually be funnier now that you can say anything on TV. If Seth wants somewhere to put his crappy pop culture references that no one will get in ten years, a reboot of The Critic would be PERFECT. I would laugh, on the first watch of each episode. It's the kind of thing that I feel like would be funny if it wasn't all right over my head due to the fact that I barely even watch films, let alone films that were crap fifteen years ago. Then we'll see what happens to the other shows with all their filler injected into a different project...
Daria - A thousands times YES! I actually reckon a continuation based on the college years would be fantastic, especially if it's set in the right time period and intended to be nostalgic in a Daria kind of way (i.e. geared towards people who remember the 90s, not people who were born during them). The reason I think this would be great is that the style of humour in that show was based on pop culture but not approving of it, therefore a retrospective-style continuation would avoid all the stupid mistakes because the writers would know that every reference they're including isn't just there because everyone loves it this week. I'm not even old enough to "get" Daria, but I do. I think it would be wonderful, and frankly if they wanted to keep going after that, I'd be cool with it. And what about some sort of Beavis & Butthead tie-in? If anything just to get people cross-interested in both.
Mission Hill - please do this. It didn't feel that old when I watched it this year, and it really shouldn't have been cancelled or whatever. Maybe they can add some more seasons where it left off and keep on the timeless abstract side so it's not too jarring.
The Flintstones - I just about got to the point where I'm bummed that this is not happening. Genuinely not attached enough to the original to turn down an opportunity to watch Seth attempt to be faithful to it. I mean, what about Larry & Steve? He obviously understands what a cartoon is.
As for the Looney Tunes stuff, I haven't seen this new and "terrible" show, but I listened to the rant and it sounds a shambles. I can't help thinking there is already so much "original" style LT material which has ended up being rehashed over and over to the point that they got bored and created stuff like Space Jam instead ... what would be the value of not innovating at this point? I do find it disappointing to hear that the new show is so detached from the original, bastardising characters here there and everywhere, looking like a bad sitcom, but it sounds like a description of any current kids' movie if I'm honest. As long as they keep re-running the old material, kids will make their own decisions - I never did realise how damn old most of that stuff was when I first saw it in the late 90s / early 00s, because it was still amazing!
Also have it from a trusted source that Darkwing Duck was a great show (not caught it yet), so I'll go and find out. Sorry if most of my points are just rehashing what was already said, I'm not going to quote everyone and make this an even bigger post.
Both were rich shows with well-developed settings and large casts of primary and secundary characters. (and even characters that crossed over) Darkwing Duck had a child-friendly version of Batman's rogues gallery and Ducktales was just an amazingly addictive series that did treasure hunts in one episode and capitalism 101 in another.
That ... sounds wonderful. Thanks for explaining it - I can't believe I've been putting off watching that for so long!
I remember the 90-minute shoe commercial that some would call "space jam"
No, money down
Come to Uncle Moe's for family fun
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