NHC Weekly Episode Club v3.0

[Old painty-can Ned]

1.) I noticed Leprechaun thinks this episode has good characterization for Homer and Bart, but from memory I seem to recall thinking it made them too dumb to emphasize the Simpson gene. How do you feel on this subject?
2.) What do you think of the Simpson gene as a plot device? Does Uncle Herb blatantly contradict it?
3.) More of a topic than a question but I happened to catch "Lisa Simpson, This Isn't Your Life" in syndication yesterday and couldn't help but see similarities between the two episodes. Do you agree? Feel free to compare the two although I'd prefer something more than "Lisa the Simpson is good, Life was crap.

Oakley and Weinstein often stretched characterizations just for one episode to prove the episode's point. It's not done with any subtly especially compared with some foils done in early season episodes (particularly seasons 2-4). I still find though that Lisa's struggle is at least realistic for her character and it is done so well. It's the last great Lisa episode and the last A grade episode I give out. Other than the stretched characters the Simpson gene is the only other fault of the episode. It's a pretty simplistic plot device and makes the resolution almost cringe worthy. Stuff with Herb is so little and obviously continuity doesn't really mean anything in the Simpsons world (and it really shouldn't)

[Oh, that's raspberry!]

Oakley and Weinstein often stretched characterizations just for one episode to prove the episode's point. It's not done with any subtly especially compared with some foils done in early season episodes (particularly seasons 2-4). I still find though that Lisa's struggle is at least realistic for her character and it is done so well. It's the last great Lisa episode and the last A grade episode I give out. Other than the stretched characters the Simpson gene is the only other fault of the episode. It's a pretty simplistic plot device and makes the resolution almost cringe worthy. Stuff with Herb is so little and obviously continuity doesn't really mean anything in the Simpsons world (and it really shouldn't)

Well I clearly disagree with you on that, but thanks for the response anyway. I get that continuity doesn't really exist I mean I don't think the gene is ever even brought up again.

[CousinMerl]

All right, here comes my first more in-depth review of the Weekly Episode Club v.3 (maybe it's a bit too much unnecessary ramling so if it is, I'll try to keep things shorter and simpler the next time) :

Lisa The Simpson, written by Ned Goldreyer and directed by Susie Dietter, first aired on March 8, 1998 as the seventeenth episode of the ninth season and it is the last produced episode from Bill Oakley & Josh Weinstein's tenure as showrunners (it aired in late season 9 as a holdover). The main story deals with Lisa, whom after having trouble solving a brain teaser on a food package believes she is losing her 'smarts' and the next day she can't even remember the code combination to her school locket while even Ralph remember his (it's simple but still effective and shows how grave the situation is). This all starts to make her worried for her future and after she has spoken out about it at home, none other than Grandpa Simpson introduces her to the concept of the so-called 'Simpson Gene' which he says make a Simpson lose his or her smarts, starting at a young age, and Lisa fears that it is the truth an struggles with trying to cope with this. In an unrelated subplot, the old man Jasper freezes himself inside a Kwik-E-Mart freezer, leaving a note which says he wants to be thawed out in the future, and Apu quickly realizes he can make money out of this and turns the Kwik-E-Mart into the Freak-E-Mart, a sideshow-styled conveniece store. The episode definitely has the Oakley & Weinstein wibe to it (which includes an really well-put together story with some really funny moments to go along with it) and is really good and entertaining with an interesting concept with the Simpson Gene and some really funny moments as well; definitely a high-point from the colorful ninth season.



The animation is solid and gets the job done in a great manner. It's expressive and there's also quite a bit of nice and pretty cool bits of animation and belonging effects; the use of lighting and shadows is great throughout (for example, it does much for the living room scene where Lisa joins Homer and Bart to watch TV; iy´t sets the mood perfectly), solid angles and at least one effectful camera shot (rotation around Lisa as she sits infront of her desk and writes in her diary; the mirror effect is really nice) and there's also the bit of the D.N.A. informational film where Troy McClure and Billy walks behind a vial display and has their face's shown warped on the other side of the vials and bottles as they pass by, which is pretty realistic and definitely a fun effects moment. The characterizations are good; Homer and Bart are both displayed here as simple-minded buffoons to show just how simplistic and dumb they can be, Marge shows her positivity and ultimately ends up being the one who gets Lisa into a better mood and Lisa herself probably gets the best characterization; she is very worried about herself and her future, she goes to Dr. Hibbert who shows her the informational film with Troy McClure and it doesn't answer any of her questions, and as she later on stands at the top of the stairs at the middled of the plot, hearing Bart and Homer watching TV, she decides to try and embrace her apparently dipping intelligence and join them infront of the TV and tries her best to be enthusiastic about the simple programming they watch (I love how the shadowing and the lighting make them look more empty and brainless when inviting her to sit down). You really get the feeling Lisa goes through an interesting psychological struggle here and that is only positive.



The real turning point for her happens when after the TV watching, Homer and Bart empties their stash of hidden and melted chocolate bars on to the floor and starts to gouge like pigs and tells Lisa to join them. She kneels down and picks up one of the chocolate bars and sees herself in the future as an massively obese woman who’s practically unable to move, several kids and Ralph as her husband. This makes her realize she can't go on trying to lean back and accept becoming dim and runs away after stating she doesn't want to become like her dad. She visits the art gallery and the Jazz Hole to hear an electric violinist to give herself a last meal; the violinist tells her that if she's got anything important to say, she should share it with the world. Then Lisa decides to go on air on Smartline and there she tells everyone who watches to treasure their brains and don't take them for granted. At home, the rest of the Simpson family sees this and after Grandpa walks by and says that he told Lisa that her brain will turn into mush because of the Simpson Gene, Homer calls Simpson relatives from the Tri-city area to show Lisa that there's nothing wrong with the Simpson family (his conversation hat is a funny touch). The next morning, Marge wakes the depressed Lisa up and reveals Homer on the front lawn together with a group of various Simpsons (one of the best scenes in my opinion). He goes around and asks several of the men and none of them shows any sign of successfulness or average intelligence. Lisa is still disappointed and when Homer sends the large group of Simpsons home, Marge interrupts and tells him to ask any of the women, whereupon he reluctantly stops one, Dr. Simpson, who is a successful doctor and the rest of the women also stops and these are an architect, a lawyer, and a sales coordinator respectively. Lisa then shines up and is relieved as she realizes the Simpson women are all successful and Dr. Simpson reveals that the Simpson Gene only affects the Y-chromosome, which makes only the men simple, dull and unsuccessful, which means that Lisa will be successful eventually and will not lose her intelligence. Then she hugs her father and proclaims that she’s never been happier to be his daughter and Bart is briefly upset, knowing that he will be unintelligent and unsuccessful, before shrugging it off (showing that he doesn't mind too much). The story wraps up with Lisa finally being able to solve the brain teaser she had problem with at the start of the episode. Overall, I really like how everything unfolds here and it’s done really well in my opinion.



As for the subplot, it is definitely a fun story and I like how it is completely unrelated to the main plot dealing with Lisa and also how it deals with secondary characters; I'd probably say it is one of the best post-classic subplots (if you now count the ninth season as post-classic). The build-up of the story is done well with Jasper continually carries ice-cream buckets to the checkout desk and how Homer shows up and asks for an after-dinner burrito and ends up staying for some time while being occupied by some novelty pens. Then Apu goes to check what happened to Jasper and as he find him in the freezer as a 'freezer geezer', it all starts with Apu first not wanting the frozen Jasper to have any attention and then changing his mind after being offered money by Jimbo who wants to look at the frozen man, turning the store to a freakshow. Towards the end, the freezer somehow gets unplugged and Jasper steps out of the freezer, believing he's in the future and walks off, leaving Apu (and Sanjay) without their attraction and turns the store to the Nude-E-Mart instead. One can maybe complain that this subplot takes time from the main story but I don't think it is intrusive; it's a solid subplot and it still leaves room for Lisa's story to develop without making it rushed; it seems like Oakley & Weinstein really knew how to balance two plots going on in one episode.



There are some good to great jokes and gags scattered throughout: Milhouse's "It's called lice and it's nothing to be ashamed of (scratches hair)" (I like how he scratches his hair in the next scene he appears in), "I don't need a hint!""But you're suffering!", "Don't open it, Ralph; I'll just give you a C-minus" and "This is terrible at best", Homer being fascinated by the pin-up novelty pens, Jasper's note ("PS. - please alter my pants as fashion dictates"), "No apology! Not until he admits he's a jerk!", Grampa saying that Homer used to be smart as a monkey and then turned dumb as a chimp (and the opposite about Bart), the smiley face on Bart's homework bundle turning more and more angry until reaching a skull and crossbones as Grandpa flips it through, the DNA information video starring Troy McClure and Billy ("You may remember me from such medical films as "Alice Doesn't Live Anymore" and "Mommy, What's Wrong With That Man's Face?"), "Well, we better leave him in there, moving him out could kill him, and tire us out", Ralph playing with the mailbox and laughing about it, 'When Buildings Collapse' (the perfect program to have Homer and Bart watch to show off how simple their minds are), Lisa's future vision ("Wesley, get mamas prying board"), "I'll dance on her grave""Bart!""What?; Oh, napkin, right", "Thanks, Lisa! I painted that one (whispers) The real one's in my garage", "By gum, it worked! I've awakened in the future... Moon Pie?, what a time to be alive-"Hey, who unplugged my freezer?!; return to your state of living death at once, sir!"-"Is that you, Apu?; whoa, time has ravaged your once useful looks", Apu turning the Freak-E-Mart to the Nude-E-Mart (and Jasper showing up and asking for a time-traveler discount), "If I were her I'd be buying me a great big chocolate apology cake!" (this feels a bit like a jerkass moment but I find it funny how it’s said), Kent Brockman reporting that "Authorities believe the wave of towel snappings will get worse before it gets better" and saying "Little girl likes her brain; what is your opinion?", the station manager allowing Lisa to continue talking as he wants to get fired, Homer's conversation hat, the Simpson relatives meet-up scene (definitely one of my favorite scenes; I like how Castellaneta gave each of the men a variation of Homer’s voice, all of them pretty funny, and they have nice designs) and Homer telling Bart he'll become a 'spectacular failure'.



All in all, it is definitely a solid episode which has really good animation, an interesting main plot with a good psychological conflict for Lisa and a fun subplot starring Apu, many good jokes and gags and a nice and fun feeling throughout the 22-minute runtime. I can understand if not everyone likes the concept of the Simpson Gene but I like it as I think it adds a bit more depth to the show (at least it's better than Homer having a crayon shoved up his brain). For the last episode from Oakley & Weinstein's batch, it is a successful one and is quite a fitting 'farewell letter' from them and it has some really good examples of why they did so well with the show.

[Old painty-can Ned]

All in all, it is definitely a solid episode which has really good animation, an interesting main plot with a good psychological conflict for Lisa and a fun subplot starring Apu, many good jokes and gags and a nice and fun feeling throughout the 22-minute runtime. I can understand if not everyone likes the concept of the Simpson Gene but I like it as I think it adds a bit more depth to the show (at least it's better than Homer having a crayon showed up his brain). For the last episode from Oakley & Weinstein's batch, it is a successful one and is quite a fitting 'farewell letter' from them and it has some really good examples of why they did so well with the show.

The sub-plot is definitely a keeper and is one of my favourites ever. It doesn't interfere with the main plot, is hilarious, keeps it light-hearted to offset the somewhat depressing main plot and actually makes sense. The only thing it lacks that some sub-plots have (Bart Sells his Soul etc) is the connection philosophically (among other things) to the main plot. While I don't like the Simpson gene I agree it is much better than the crayon in HOMR. Mainly because Lisa's story is much better done than Homer's. Also the Simpson gene doesn't seem as unrealistic and stupid (it has a bit of subtly).

[Mr Black]

Lisa the Simpson is a pretty deep character-based episode, and one of the highlights from the mostly inconsistent 9th season of the show. The plot is pretty strong, Lisa's intellect has never really been brought into question before in the shows history, apart from maybe "Lisa's Rival" this is the closest thing to her feeling insecure about herself. I enjoyed the opening scene, although I have trouble believing Milhouse and Ralph managed to work out that brain teaser but .
I think one of the best Milhouse lines was in this episode "You look tired, are you tired Lisa"? The delivery is very good, and it's fair to say theres a lot of good jokes in this episode to strengthen the episode's emotional core. I will add that the "Simpson Gene" is a lame excuse and it's evident of Mike Scully's sense of humour. But before I go on about that for too long I have to bring up some things, maybe other people noticed but I will mention anyway. When Granpa is getting his haircut, he puts back the cloth around his neck which is catching all the hair back onto the table, which I thought was quite amausing. This is also one of the first appearances of the "Rich Texan", which to me is one of the most iconic figures of the crappy "scully era". I also recognised Billy from the Troy McLure scene (which was great btw) from Lisa the Vegetarian. Looks like he only stars in the Troy McLure informercials that Lisa watches, lol. Also, when Apu re-opens the kwik-e-mart as the nude-e-mart, "Just Stamp the ticket guy" is one of the people coming in, which I thought was quite amusing too.
(Can you see him on the left?)

And while we're onto the subject of the sub-lot, it's a fairly enjoyable segment of the show which balances out the heavier main storyline, we also get to see a rare appearance from Apu's (brother?) Sanjay. But anyway, the main plot. I also have to draw attention to Kent Brockman's suspeciously dark hair after Lisa's been on tv, I think he was using hair dye around the season 9 era of the show

One thing other than the silly "simpson gene" bothered me, how slow and dumb witted Bart and Homer appeared to be when they were watching tv waiting for dinner, but I did enjoy the lighting effect from this scene too This does add to the atmopshere from the scene and add's to Lisa's impending feeling of doom , this scene reminds me too of the similar hell scene from "Lisa v the eighth commandment". The last scene of the episode leaves a bit to be desired for, it's a neat way of tying things up but thats about it, however the line "I shoot birds at the airport" is great.

Overall this was a solid, well balanced and pretty humorous episode with some good moments. There are pretty lame moments but overall this is a standout from the season.

A-

[cloneasaurus]

Just a heads up Señor Black, this isn't a Scully episode (it's O&W), and I don't think this is the Rich Texan's first appearance (I think he first appeared in $pringfield). (I know, I'm being pedantic)

[Mr Black]

you have a point , btw great username.

[cinco]

Yeah, it's in fact their last episode and for those who haven't done it yet, I recommend listening to the hidden second audiocommentary track for this episode on which O&W look back at their run as showrunners for The Simpsons, reminiscing about their intentions and goals and even subtly commenting on the state of the show in later years.

[cymek]

I see that almost everyone is praising the episode, although I can't support it. I find the idea of a "simpsons gene" so stupid and ridiculous that it completely ruins the episode for me. The writer responsible for this was not a regular writer; the only other thing he wrote for the show was the third THOH VIII segment, the weakest one of three. Apparently he was oblivious of, say, Herbert Powell, and that is one of the reasons that make this concept look so stupid and contradictory to previously seen plots. In comparison to this, the idea of Homer having a crayon in his brain isn't half bad.

1/5 - good potential spoiled by a stupid concept

[leprechaun_dan]

Stupid Eastern time people...get to do everything first...

You're American. You get everything else first e.g. new Simpsons

In New Zealand, we have to wait one or two months before a new episode airs

So don't whinge It's only 18 hours

[Mr Black]

in New Zealand, they had to wait until the nineties to get working electricity and gas!

[cloneasaurus]

I find the idea of a "simpsons gene" so stupid and ridiculous that it completely ruins the episode for me. The writer responsible for this was not a regular writer; the only other thing he wrote for the show was the third THOH VIII segment, the weakest one of three. Apparently he was oblivious of, say, Herbert Powell, and that is one of the reasons that make this concept look so stupid and contradictory to previously seen plots.

You're putting too much emphasis on the Simpsons gene. I'm not defending it and can understand it is sorta stupid, but at the end of the day it's just a plot device and not the meat of the episode. The episode is, after all, about Lisa struggling to accept this supposed "decline" in intelligence, and not the Simpsons gene directly. Could they have done it better, and still had this focus whilst not using an odd concept such as the Simpson gene? Yes, probably. But either way this episode is about Lisa and in order to fairly judge this episode you should perhaps put less emphasis on the Simpson gene and just get over the fact it's there.

As for it contradicting Herb, does it really matter? No. No Siree Bob.

[leprechaun_dan]

in New Zealand, they had to wait until the nineties to get working electricity and gas!

I didn't know that, and quite frankly, it doesn't sound true

[cymek]

You're putting too much emphasis on the Simpsons gene. I'm not defending it and can understand it is sorta stupid, but at the end of the day it's just a plot device and not the meat of the episode.

I agree that it's just a plot device and I'm very glad that they didn't turn this insane idea into a running gag or something. However, I can't enjoy an episode when there's something like this in it. It's like honey with tar. Even idea of Skinner being an impostor didn't seem as bad as this one to me.

As for it contradicting Herb, does it really matter? No. No Siree Bob.

Not respecting continuity is more like a Season 16 - present thing. From a season sometimes deemed as "classic", I expected a little bit better.

[MagicalManFromHappyLand]

I'll start off the review by saying that I am a huge fan of "Lisa the Simpson", it's my favourite episode of season 9 and I think it's at least 3 years before an episode of this calibre (Trilogy of Error) came out.
This was Oakley and Weinstein's last episode they put out, and listening to the commentary it's one of their favourites too. They wanted to end their era with an episode that embodied their era, and I think this episode does that perfectly.

In a way I can empathise with Lisa in this episode, being a student who slowly went from being exceptional to a point where a lot of students had caught up with me, throughout my childhood I did feel like I was slowly losing my intelligence, maybe that's why I like this episode so much. There's a lot of emotion in this episode, but it doesn't slow down the episode or even stop it from being funny - maybe that's because of the sub-plot.

The main plot is really depressing, you really feel for Lisa as she goes from not being able to solve the puzzle to the point where it seems like she can't do anything right. But then on the other hand, the sub-plot is hilarious. Without it, I think the episode might've gotten a little bit too depressing, but I love the 'B' plot, it's stupid, it's ridiculous but it's really enjoyable. It brings out some of Springfield's best in a way that doesn't feel forced, it fits with Springfield's mob mentality: the whole town flocks to see a can of food with no label and a hat that says tits. The main plot can get a little bit depressing after you see Lisa losing her mind over and over again, but this side story helps hold the episode together.

Back to the main-story, there's still a lot here that's funny. For one, it has what I'd say as Troy McClure's last great performance, maybe even Phil Hartman's last great performance. "Mmmm, that's good Billy" is a personal favourite from this scene. A lot of people are saying that characterisations are exaggerated here, but it's a staple of Oakley and Weinstein, they always exaggerated characters to prove a point and nothing here feels out of character for anyone, I buy that Bart and Homer would watch "When Buildings Collapse" and play that stupid game with saucers on their heads.

A small thing I'd like to mention here is the animation, this episode has some of the best animation the show EVER had: lighting, interesting angles, little things like Troy and Billy walking past the Flasks and Test Tubes. They put a lot of effort into here to make Lisa appear depressed and Homer and Bart seem mindless through the lighting, and all the other little things just to make it look good.

Oakley and Weinstein put a lot of effort into this episode, they wanted it to be good, and it shows. They claim that it's the best episode ever written, I wouldn't go that far, but it's certainly one of my favourites. 9.3/10

[Comicshow MolemanBob]

"Lisa the Simpson"


Homer trying to prove to Lisa that the Simpson family aren't a bunch of idiots


Let me start off by saying that this episode seems very strange to me. It does not feel like a season nine episode (Because well, it's not) but it also does not feel like a season eight episode either. It feels to me like a season ten episode (a VERY good season ten episode) and does seem very similar in style to "Lisa Gets an "A"') I guess the wacky subplot, twist ending and stretched characterization links the two (Although while I say this, there were a few episodes near the end of season eight where the characterization of the characters were stretched for plot purposes, namely "Homer's Enemy". I'd probably say this is a little worse that "Lisa Gets an "A"" but that's probably because I prefer the subplot more.

While I could continue to compare episodes I'd much rather talk about what makes this episode so good. It defiantly stands out from the rest of the season along with "The City of New York vs. Homer Simpson" and "Lisa's Sax" (Coincidentally two of the three not even being produced in the season) I guess what makes this so good is the jokes, character interactions and the sweet emotional core prominent in almost all of Oakley & Weinstein's episodes. If I had to chose a few highlights I'd probably go with ...


Bart: Lisa thinks she's so much better than us - I'll dance on her grave
Marge: BART!
Bart: Oh yeah, napkin

* Grampa was great in both stories
* I always love seeing Bart and Homer together and the scene with them watching TV was great
* The jobs of the male Simpsons were hilarious


I've always been a big fan of Lisa episodes (Greek, Vegetarian, Malibu Stacy, Rival, Gaga - Well maybe not that one) and this episode is no exception. The balance of the story was also well considered (3/4 being about Lisa and 1/4 about Apu and Jasper) This may not be the best of production season eight but Oakley and Weinstein can be proud that they left behind such a nice little episode.


16/20 (A)

[Financial Panther]

This is quite a good episode. One feels a lot for Lisa and her "loss of intelligence," and the episode is very good at emphasizing the sheer magnitude of the mental drop-off. Perhaps the best way is the comparisons to Ralph; showing how the dumbest kid in school remembers things better than Lisa really gets the point across that there could perhaps be a deeper problem than a simple "bad day." It also puts Bart and Homer in perhaps the best relationship I've ever seen; they're hardly ever apart in this episode, and they don't fight or even disagree once. This further isolates Lisa and her feelings of mediocrity. Besides the obvious, there are some fairly subtle instances that show Lisa isn't her normal smart self. I had always thought that it was odd for Lisa to ask, "Isn't there any way I can change my DNA? Like, sitting on the microwave?" I just realized that could be another instance of the "stupid" Lisa. Before, I just thought it was an out-of-character line. Something that always bothered me about this episode: If Lisa isn't affected by the gene, what did happen to her? I mean, you can't just drop in intellignece that drastically, then suddenly regain it all at once. I would've preferred an explanation here. Also, the subplot, while not my favorite, is adequate. It provides laughs, and that's all I ask of a subplot.

Overall, a good episode. A-

[Old painty-can Ned]

Something that always bothered me about this episode: If Lisa isn't affected by the gene, what did happen to her? I mean, you can't just drop in intelligence that drastically, then suddenly regain it all at once. I would've preferred an explanation here. Also, the subplot, while not my favorite, is adequate. It provides laughs, and that's all I ask of a subplot.

Sometimes when your confidence is shaken you can find it hard to do things you normally excel at. It's a pretty common occurrence and Lisa's confidence was definitely to the point of being broken. There doesn't really need to be a big explanation for it.

[SIZE=3][b]Let me start off by saying that this episode seems very strange to me. It does not feel like a season nine episode (Because well, it's not) but it also does not feel like a season eight episode either. It feels to me like a season ten episode (a VERY good season ten episode) and does seem very similar in style to "Lisa Gets an "A"') I guess the wacky subplot, twist ending and stretched characterization links the two (Although while I say this, there were a few episodes near the end of season eight where the characterization of the characters were stretched for plot purposes, namely "Homer's Enemy". I'd probably say this is a little worse that "Lisa Gets an "A"" but that's probably because I prefer the subplot more.

Nah it feels right at home as a season 8 episode or even a season 7 episode. There's no way this episode is worse than Lisa Gets an A. I like LGAA but lets not kid ourselves. This is classic era Lisa. The conflict within herself is so well done and is one many could relate to. While LGAA is pretty clichéd and boring. They had an interesting chance for some satire but it's hindered by Lisa in the first two acts taking so long to do nothing really (classic Scully!). I dunno the sub-plot in LGAA always seemed pretty stupid to me. It's just another get rich quick scheme and isn't all that funny. Still the best of season 10 though.

[CousinMerl]

Sometimes I feel like an explanation to why her intelligence was seemingly dipping would be nice, but I always end up thinking that an explanation is not really needed here; can't explain it, but it just feels like it's for the better (if you still want an explanation, my guess is that maybe all female Simpsons goes through short time like that around Lisa's age; Darren's explanation is also good).

About the complaints about Herb and how he's apparently not being affected by the gene, it's not completely true; how he actually trusted Homer completely and let him design a car just like that shows, at least to me, that he's not completely unaffected by the gene as it was a dumb and somewhat thoughtless move. A normal man, no matter if he just met his long lost half-brother, would probably get to know that man better before entrusting him with something big like that, but Herb went ahead, quickly made up his mind and decided it without giving it more thought. Seems to me like something a Simpson man would do; he's still more intelligent than the rest so I guess he's something of an anomaly (maybe this is scraping the bottom of the barrel but I think it makes sense).

[MagicalManFromHappyLand]

Sometimes I feel like an explanation to why her intelligence was dipping would be nice

I don't think there is a real drop of intelligence, there's more just a drop of confidence. She can't solve the puzzle and so she spends all night trying. Her lack of sleep means she does badly in her agricultural project. Lisa isn't used to failure, let alone failing twice in one day so she just keeps getting less and less confident until she's convinced she's losing her intelligence.

[Oh, that's raspberry!]

I see we have some good stuff so far. I STILL haven't watched the episode so I'm hesitant to read the long reviews lest my opinion be swayed before even watching the episode, but definitely an encouraging sign so far guys!

[CousinMerl]

I don't think there is a real drop of intelligence, there's more just a drop of confidence.

Yes, that is a good possibility (probably should have typed 'why her intelligence was seemingly dipping' instead; off to use the 'edit' button).

[zach]

damn. i've got some reading to catch up on.

[Dobbie]

I can't remember the last time I watched this episode at all. I'll need to watch it again to refresh my mind. I do remember the ending and a few moments, but otherwise it felt like 500 years ago since I've watched this.

Thankfully I have a site to watch TV episodes. I'll watch later tonight.

[Mozy]

Great reviews so far, folks!

[zach]

i'm watching it now.

[Lionel Hutz]

i'm watching it now.

Me too

[Oh, that's raspberry!]

Lisa the Simpson



The last episode to come to us from Oakley and Weinstein perhaps fittingly deals with Lisa Simpson. It is Lisa vs. fate as she learns from Grampa that she is doomed to grow increasingly stupid. She tries to deny it but she finds herself unable to remember her locker combination or spell real words. After a visit to Dr. Hibbert she begins to accept her fate. In the end though she sees a vision of what she might be if she accepts her mediocrity and with help from Homer remembers herself.

I always seem to get this one confused with Lisa the Skeptic because of the similar titles. After just re-watching the episode I can say I did not like this much. Let me get the positives out first. The direction is handled well leading to some very cool and atmospheric shots. The one that jumped out at me this time was Lisa's slow walk down the stairs to meet her fate. I also liked the shot shown above. There are some good jokes, but not many. I liked Bart's napkin bit and Lisa's vision. The deleted role playing scene was good. I felt that the very end of the Troy McClure scene was good. Lisa is handled well throughout the episode. We feel for her and can relate to her and that's the best thing about the episode. Plenty of log scenes here, I think this may have been the last episode to use this.

I don't really like the idea of the Simpson gene as a plot device. It is blatantly contradicted with Herb. I mean he was stupid to let Homer ruin him but he was rather emotional at the time having just learned he had a brother. Plus he invented a baby translator! I don't like the conclusion which screws over Bart. This implies no matter what he's gonna be a failure through no fault of his own. I like to think of his poor grades as being mostly due to his underachiever attitude. I mean I do acknowledge with episodes like "Bart Gets an F" that he just naturally isn't smart, but the stupidity seems cranked up a level here. I will admit that I don't mind how Bart turned out in three of the future episodes though in fact I might prefer how he is in "Holidays of Future Passed" so perhaps I'm being a bit contradictory here. I just don't really like the implications this episode leaves for his character. What I DO like is that at least Bart and Homer feel insulted by Lisa as they should. Were she not an 8 year old she'd come off as pretty unlikable at the end of act 2.

The B Plot is one which I consider well received, but which I don't really enjoy much. The only funny moment in it is Flanders and the baseball cap. The rest really isn't that funny and just chugs along for me. The episode as a whole isn't really that funny. I suppose that matters less because it is supposed to be a character driven story but it matters to me when I'm not totally on board with the plot anyway. If you consider "Lisa's Sax" a Lisa episode it is better than this. I enjoy "Lost Our Lisa" and many Lisa episodes from later seasons more than this. The crayon from "HOMR" is no better than this as a plot device, but I think that it is a funnier, more interesting episode overall. I'd say this is a 3.5/5 rounded up to a 4.

EDIT: I forgot until just now but I'll touch on it briefly. This one shares, to me anyway, the Lisa vs. fate conflict seen in "Lisa Simpson, This Isn't Your Life." The key difference being it is the Bouvier side from which her fear stems in that episode. "Life" goes about telling the story differently and has two sub-plots, but I do like the ending which shows Lisa is still clearly concerned about her future. I did like how "Lisa the Simpson" had all of Marge's concerns be cooking related though as it sort of tied in to the mother and housewife fate Lisa fears 13 seasons later.

PS: One of Homer's relatives was a prison snitch some 7 seasons before he was, found that interesting too.

[MagicalManFromHappyLand]

It defiantly stands out from the rest of the season along with "The City of New York vs. Homer Simpson" and "Lisa's Sax" (Coincidentally two of the three not even being produced in the season)

Interestingly none of them were produced by Scully too.

[zach]