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i enjoyed it. the bart plot was pretty fresh and fun compared to other bart relationship episodes of the jean era. it kept my interest and was a bit edgy. i was actually shocked when jimbo's girlfriend flashed him, and not in a bad way. i've never watched lost before but ive heard enough about the show that i got the reference. it may be one of these: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.ph.../ShallowParody it's no new kid on the block, but it was a fun episode and i felt bart was completely in character. B, 4/5
also, am i the only one who finds jimbo having a skullet (bald on top, long hair in back) to be stupid? it was ok for a throwaway gag in the great simpsina but bart of darkness, and papa's got a brand new badge showed him having a full head of hair.
Too many pedophile vibes in this episode. And why are the bullies like twice the height of Lisa and Bart?
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I agree with Zombies, even without being a fan of the show, Lost. The only thing it's lampooning (and unintentionally at that) is the belief that it's some show where wacky things happen just because.
Had it been less specific about the show and had parodied the format instead, it would have felt a lot less dated and thoughtful. It would have required a lot more effort, though.
OK, this one was... surprisingly good. I'm a fan of the classic Simpsons and this is the first episode of the last few seasons I watch, and I liked it. The characters were recognizable, and both plots were funny. It was handled well. Perhaps I'm being generous because of my low expectations, but I give this one an A-
Jimbo sometimes wears a toupée. He got it from the same place that Apu and Skinner got theirs.
(Before anybody says anything... Skinner was initially supposed to be wearing a toupée.)
Honestly... yeah, it bugs the ever-loving PISS out of me.
My Simpsons Season 24 Ratings/Reviews:
Moonshine River (2,25/5) / Treehouse Of Horror XXIII (3,5/5) / Adventures in Baby-Getting (3,25/5) / Gone Abie Gone (3,5/5) / Penny Wise-Guys (3/5) / A Tree Grows in Springfield (1,75/5) / The Day The Earth Stood Cool (3,75/5) / To Cur with Love (4/5) / Homer Goes to Prep School (3/5) / A Test Before Trying (3,5/5) / The Changing of the Guardian (1,25/5) / Love is a Many-Splintered Thing (2,75/5) / Hardly Kirk-ing (3,25/5) / Gorgeous Grampa (2,25/5) / Black-Eyed, Please (3,75/5) / Dark Knight Court (3/5) / Pulpit Friction (3,25/5)
Futurama - Season 7 :
The Bots and the Bees : 3,75/5 / A Farewell to Arms : 4/5 / Decision 3012 : 3,5/5 / The Thief of Baghead : 3,25/5 / Zapp Dingbat : 2/5 / The Butterjunk Effect : 2,5/5 / The Six Million Dollar Mon : 4/5 / Fun On A Bun : 3,75/5 / Free Will Hunting : 2,25/5 / Near-Death Wish : 3,75/5 / 31st Century Fox : 3,5/5 / Viva Mars Vegas : 4/5 / Naturama : 2,5/5
So they have made Jimbo bald now? That is so lame,isn't he meant to be about 15? it's like when they altered Bart to being a redhead on one of the modern episodes,although I think it was just for a one off "gag".
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On the subject of the age diffrence between Shawna and Bart, personally im not so much bothered by the idea of Bart being into a teenage girl as the idea that a teenage girl would be into Bart. Seriosuly, Shawna is supposed to be like 16 or so, and she's making out with a 10 year old? There is a word for people like her; it starts with a "p" and ends with a "edophile". Im being serious here, that's what that character is, there is no way around it. And yet the whole Simpsons-universe as well as it's makers just seem to be blind to it. And it just bugs the hell out of me.
And if you feel that i an exagerating, just do this thought-experiment; what if the episode had featured a 16 year old guy making out with a 10 year old girl? Or for that matter, a 14 year old guy making out with 8 year old Lisa (they would have same age difference as Shawna and Bart).
I thought Shawna was 14...
I kinda agree with Kangdos, even if she's 14. It doesn't feel very natural. It doesn't have to be pedophilia, I think, if it is at least somewhat developed. I mean, a 30 year old guy with a 10 year old girl, that's a problem, but a 30 year old with a 18 year old girl becomes a little more acceptable if they are actually in love with each other. I think movies like Juno or Ghost World at least did a decent job portraying how people of different ages could be attracted to each other. The problem with this episode is that it's too shallow about it. Shawna makes out with Bart as easily as if she were just another girlfriend of his age. The infamous "Rome-old and Juli-eh" had the same problem. It was a bad idea to begin with, but they could have tried to make it a little more believable. Disturbing as it was, "Worst Episode Ever" kinda made more sense since Comic Book Guy has obvious problems to get a girl of his age and at least Agnes and him share a similar attitude towards other people. Even a movie like "Happiness" that shows an obvious case of pedophilia tries to understand the view of the pedophile without portraying him as an evil guy.
I also agree about the gag involving Jimbo's bald head. It could be funny...in a flash foward or futuristic episode, but he's just too young. You lose your hair at 30, not 14. I already found the long running gag of Kearney having a kid a little weird/disturbing, I guess the joke is that they are such bad students that have spent more years than we'd think in school or something but I wouldn't abuse of this kind of thing.
Last edited by Cartoonnetwork; 04-19-2012 at 03:31 AM.
My Simpsons homage!
Saw this one a couple of days ago and I enjoyed it. The main plot was good and I liked that they with Shauna used an existing character voiced by a regular instead of bringing in a new character voiced by a guest star; they've done those things so much by now. The subplot about Homer and his addiction to the Lost parody was nice too albeit not as good; I haven't watched Lost but I still liked the parody they made of it. That part towards the end where Homer used the bullhorn to bleep the spoiler talk did feel a bit jerkassy, though. As for the humor, there were some fun moments such as the kitten stuff, Chief Wiggum letting Ralph drive his patrol car and Bart going into a bluescreen mode after being flashed and seeing boobs everywhere at dinner.
In addition, I think a shot of the dismantled treadmill would have been nice seeing as the treadmill disappeared towards the end of the subplot. They did have at least one shot of the empty box by the garbage so another one with the treadmill, shoddily dismantled and and shoved into the box, would have been great as a visual explanation. Another thing is that since she first appeared, I have to say that Shauna feels like a reskinned version of Laura Powers; they've pretty much just shortened the hair and made it darker, added freckles, new clothing and a new voice.
Overall, a pretty good episode with a solid couch gag (which was perhaps a bit too long). I don't watch much new Simpsons episodes nowadays and I hear that there's a lot of disappointment regardin this season, but I liked this one.
Anyway, a debate ensued and what the DJs came to the agreement of if an older girl says something flattering to/about a younger guy, society feels that there's no 'bad intent', but if a guy said it to a younger girl, he's looking for sex.
Well, ya'know if you stay positive and forget about trivial things like "proper characterization," "Satire," and "emotional depth" watching new Simpsons episodes can be a seemingly enjoyable lie.
"One of the keys to life is having a sense of proportion, knowing how long to sit at a restaurant after you've eaten, or how long you should go on vacation — if you go to Hawaii for a month on vacation, I guarantee you that by the end you'll hate it. So it's the same with a TV show, you want to do a certain amount of it, so that when people look back on it and they love it. I could have easily done the show for one or two or three more years, but it would have changed the way people look back at it. I think I made the right decision. Because people like the show now even more than they did in the 1990s, because it didn't get worn out." -- Jerry Seinfeld
I wish Swartzwelder came back
^Are we seriously still bringing up that post?
It's a troll, folks. Get over it.
Favourite/least favourite by seasons that I own (somewhat stolen from Financial Panther):
3 - Dog of Death/When Flanders Failed 4 - Lisa's First Word/So it's Come to This: A Simpsons Clip Show 5 - Secrets of a Successful Marriage/Bart's Inner Child 6 - And Maggie Makes Three/Another Simpsons Clip Show 7 - Marge Be Not Proud/Bart the Fink 8 - Homer's Phobia/The Simpsons Spin-Off Showcase 9 - King of the Hill/Trash of the Titans 10 - Wild Barts Can't Be Broken/Maximum Homerdrive
i can't wait to see another defense of "no zombie simpsons" next episode
and the episode after that
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