Episodic Minority

[Comicshow MolemanBob]

Why does every thread seem to either turn into a 'LETZ GO MuRDER AL JEAN CUZ HES BAd' or something about the ending of Iconoclast?

[Bleedin' Gums Murphy]

Because debate is healthy.

[Alex_Of_Darkness]

I think that Lisa the drama queen is a good episode but everyone hate it ! I give it a 3,5 or a 3,75/5 but I'm probably the only one in the world who think this episode is good.

For A star is Burns, I don't like this episode at all but a lot of people like it...

[Bleedin' Gums Murphy]

Sorry Alexandre but I despise 'Lisa the drama queen'

[The Wiggs]

I enjoy the "Principal and the Pauper". I don't consider it canon or whatever, but I find it humorous and quite interesting.

[cloneasaurus]

Whilst I can understand that having the tongue in plain sight for Lisa to find was a bit of a cop out and that realistically Hollis H...whatever could never pocket the tongue so quickly, it really doesn't bother me. They're little things that I can forget considering the strength of the rest of the episode. And personally I love the ending. For what it's worth I can understand FP's point of view (on the subject of always telling the truth), cos as a person I'm terrible at lying and try to always tell the truth. But that doesn't mean I hate the ending. In fact I somewhat admire it for not only being quite unpredictable but also making an intelligent point in the process. And I love Lisa on Homer's shoulders at the end, it's a great ending visual.

As for episodes I like more than others, I guess I'm sorta a S11 apologist... for some episodes. There are definitely a bunch of episodes I dislike, but stylistically I think I prefer it to S17+ at least. Basically I find it average compared to some people who hate the season and see it as one of the worst.

[Bleedin' Gums Murphy]

I enjoy the "Principal and the Pauper". I don't consider it canon or whatever, but I find it humorous and quite interesting.

I'd say it's canon if Lisa talks to Skinner about how he really is Tamzarian in some episode when Snowball keeps dying or something, I think. As for my own opinion on it, I like it but I also wish I hadn't been made which is a strange point of view I'll admit.

[Mr Black]

I dunno I always found Lisa the Iconoclast underated amongst season 7, and it gets quite overlooked. Homer believed Lisa all along and did his best to spread the word that Jebediah was a fruad, even if his actions as town cryer were a bit jerkassy I enjoyed it. There were many notable quotes, the cromulent bit too and the song at the end is probably one of my favourites from the show. The explanation doesn't bother me, its not that difficult to suspend belief, you can understnad the motives of the curator and it makes sense. And the ending showed us the Legend of Jebediah was more valuable than the truth, which I agree with.

[Nauru-1]

I think the ending to Lisa the Iconoclast has value but I wouldn't construe that to mean the episode is saying you should keep some historical truths hidden. Rather, that the venture and the context was not the place for such admissions to be made. Why spoil it for everybody? That information is for the historical archives for people who want to learn about history, not to put a damper on the pride of the local residents during a celebration.

Oh, and the episode around it is quite awesome as far as I'm concerned.

And as for the question, the Principal and the Pauper is the first one that comes to mind. It has the humour and characterizations of classic Simpsons even if the story was unnecessary. Season 9 itself has far more detrimental episodes to the series.

[bomberswarm2]

I actully really don't like Lisa's Substitute, even though all other people like it lots

[Financial Panther]

I don't find it anything more than adequate, either.

[Bleedin' Gums Murphy]

Okay.

[bomberswarm2]

I think that Lisa the drama queen is a good episode but everyone hate it ! I give it a 3,5 or a 3,75/5 but I'm probably the only one in the world who think this episode is good.

I hate to quote Comic Book Guy but, WORST.EPISODE.EVER!
Also you can tell that by my rating graph, Season 21 Episode 10

[MagicalManFromHappyLand]

Episodes I like more than others
Bart Gets an 'F'
Simpson and Delilah
Two Cars in Every Garage, Three Eyes on Every Fish
Principal Charming
Blood Feud
Bart The Murderer
Like Father, Like Clown
Burns Verkaufen Der Kraftwerk
Bart the Lover
Colonel Homer
Selma's Choice
I Love Lisa
The Front
The Last Temptation of Homer
Lisa vs Malibu Stacey
Lady Bouvier's Lover
Lisa's Rival
Grandpa vs Sexual Inadequacy
Lisa's Wedding
Round Springfield
Lisa the Iconoclast
A Fish Called Selma

Episodes I Dislike More than Others
Homer vs Lisa and the 8th Commandment
Lisa's Pony
Homer Alone
Mr Plow
Whacking Day
Deep Space Homer
Lisa On Ice
Fear of Flying
Homer vs Patty and Selma
Sideshow Bob's Last Gleaming
Marge Be Not Proud
Two Bad Neighbours
SimpsoncalifragilisticexpilaD'ohcious

More on topic, the bit in Lisa the Iconoclast always did bother me that people would've seen Hurlbut take the tounge but aside from that one small part I think it's a perfect episode.

[Lionel Hutz]

Episodes I like more than others:
Bart The Daredevil
Like Father, Like Clown
Lisa's Pony
Itchy And Scratchy: The Movie
Brother From The Same Planet
Whacking Day
Homer's Barbershop Quartet
Bart's Inner Child
A Star Is Burns
Hurricane Neddy
Grade School Confidential
Simpson Tide
Trash of the Titans
Natural Born Kissers
Wild Barts Can't Be Broken
Pygmoelion
A Tale Of Two Springfields
I "Doh" Bot
Home Away From Homer
Midnight Towboy

Episodes I don't like as much as others:
Two Cars In Every Garage, Three Eyes On Every Fish
Homer Goes To College
Sudeshow Bob Roberts
TOH VI

The 1 episode I hate more than most:
The Great Money Caper

[rkell48]

I seem to be the only one who dislikes Rosebud..like seriously..and Burns Kraftverk as well..

Maybe because I am so hipster ^o^

[Bert Stanton]

I enjoy the "Principal and the Pauper". I don't consider it canon or whatever, but I find it humorous and quite interesting.

It's a good episode if you don't hang yourself up about it being a bit/a lot different

but on the other hand with it being one of O&W's last episodes I can't help feel it was just a bit of a "fuck you we're gone".

[Dobbie]

I can add 'Exit Through the Kwik-E-Mart' to my list! Everyone seems to rate it highly but I don't!

[The Spruce Moose]

that's because it's shit

[The Governor]

I can add 'Exit Through the Kwik-E-Mart' to my list! Everyone seems to rate it highly but I don't!

I grade new episodes on a curve. Yeah, if I used the same grading scale as I did with the first 9 seasons, it'd be a 0.5/5.

For anything S21 and up it's a 3.5/5.

[Bleedin' Gums Murphy]

I use the same scale for all 500 odd episodes. I don't see why we should lower our standards just to polish the turds of Mr Scully and Jean (dis)respectively.

[The Spruce Moose]

exactly, it disproportionately boosts crap to look the same as genius. For example, compared to the rest of the classic run i'd give Homer the Heretic 4/5. Compared to the rest of the post-classic run, I find The Wife Aquatic and Pranksta Rap 4/5 episodes. Is anyone going to claim these are at the same level as Homer the Heretic?

[cloneasaurus]

Yeah I don't really understand grading on a curve either. I mean, yeah, an episode might be good for it's era, but it still feels wrong giving it a higher mark than it actually deserves. I'm not gunna give a 3/5 episode 4/5 just because it happened later in the show's run

[Dobbie]

I grade new episodes on a curve. Yeah, if I used the same grading scale as I did with the first 9 seasons, it'd be a 0.5/5.

For anything S21 and up it's a 3.5/5.

I should probably adopt a x/10 system instead. I feel a bit strange rating an episode like this as '2.5/5' and a brilliant episode such as Cape Feare at '5/5'. Makes it look like I believe that the former is half the quality of the latter, which is far from the truth!

Overall, I'd give it a 1.5/10.

[Jesse Pinkman]

i just grade episodes how i see them. 5/5, 4/5, etc.

if i gave a 5/5 to an episode and a 5/5 to another, that doesn't necesarily(sp) mean i think both are equal in quality; i just think they're both worthy of an A, but it could be for different reasons (like one was funnier, one was more character-driven)

[The Governor]

I use the same scale for all 500 odd episodes. I don't see why we should lower our standards just to polish the turds of Mr Scully and Jean (dis)respectively.

It's not polishing turds, it's about not shitting all over the classic era by giving Exit through the Kwik E Mart the same 5/5 you'd give (insert 5/5 classic era episode here).

[Company Picnic]

It's not polishing turds, it's about not shitting all over the classic era by giving Exit through the Kwik E Mart the same 5/5 you'd give (insert 5/5 classic era episode here).

That's if any of the recent episodes are worth top marks in any rating format.

[Hommer]

I think Saddlesore Galactica and Tennis the Menace were under-rated episodes. They had a lot of good content. As for over-rated, there's a few. A Star Is Burns is one. Burns was in about two scenes. It was just an excuse to show funny films and the Critic. No wonder Matt Groening took his name off the credits. Another one is Trilogy of Error. I thought it was annoying, and not too well done. One more is Last Exit to Springfield. I liked the gag fest, but the plot was mediocre.

[ANdre1001]

I find Rosebud one of the weakest episodes ever, I mean Burn's teddy bear ¬¬

But this episode is really loved in here....

[Company Picnic]

Another one is Trilogy of Error. I thought it was annoying, and not too well done.

Most of the Scully era is appalling but I've a soft spot for Trilogy of Error.

It's not particularly funny but it's one of the better format benders. I expect most of us found it interesting on the first viewing, and frankly when considered that it's a non-canon idea it's a nicely conducted episode.