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Well, ya'know if you stay positive and forget about trivial things like "proper characterization," "Satire," and "emotional depth" watching new Simpsons episodes can be a seemingly enjoyable lie.
"One of the keys to life is having a sense of proportion, knowing how long to sit at a restaurant after you've eaten, or how long you should go on vacation — if you go to Hawaii for a month on vacation, I guarantee you that by the end you'll hate it. So it's the same with a TV show, you want to do a certain amount of it, so that when people look back on it and they love it. I could have easily done the show for one or two or three more years, but it would have changed the way people look back at it. I think I made the right decision. Because people like the show now even more than they did in the 1990s, because it didn't get worn out." -- Jerry Seinfeld
Last edited by Tubbb!; 02-19-2012 at 09:46 PM.
The first half of the episode was really great. The story concept tied into the idea of the 500th episode celebration well, by using The Simpsons' history in the town at the starting point. I was surprised they didn't throw a ton of continuity porn at us during that scene, because that seems like the kind of place where they would chuck in a bunch of references. I guess, with the couch gag, a bunch more flashbacking would've been the writers jerking off.
(Speaking of jerking off, that Wiggum joke got a big laugh. Good job, writers.)
The episode didn't seem as interesting when they go to the Outlands, though. They did have some decent jokes in there, particularly the stuff with Maggie, as well as some good physical humor with Homer. But it didn't seem that fresh or interesting... Felt very Alaska-ish from the movie. Kinda aimless.
Like others mentioned, this episode could have definitely benefited from being a super-sized episode like Family Guy does... The ending felt too rushed. I'm fine with the ending they chose, it's a good enough concept, but it was juuuust a little too much to fit into a 20 minute episode. They make it clear that it took awhile for the whole town to finally come around, but in real time it's about a minute, so it doesn't feel like very much time to the viewer. It feels more like the town flip-flopping for the hell of it.
Still, decent enough episode. 4/5.
To quote Moe "Eh, gee you're kind of all over the place Homer, you need to focus here"
This episode in a nutshell.
I haven't watched a season premiere in 5 years, so I went into this with mixed feelings about it.
I liked the couch gag, the scenes with Homer and Marge, and the message to the hardcore fans.
I didn't think this episode flowed very well and I thought the reasoning for the town to kick them out was a real stretch.
two points of interest for me:
1. Kent Brockman's voice seemed way off to me
2. towards the end I was wondering where Principal Skinner was and then his scene randomly appeared.I have to admit his scene was pretty funny.
In summary, not bad and not great, just average
Nothing happened in the episode except them leaving the town. Didn't we already do the town leaving in the Simpsons Movie???
So, are they not returning?
I don't know what to say about this episode. It certainly wasn't horrible like the Roosevelts episode, but it just 'paused' and went nowhere.
Also, they did the 'new opening' title gag before when they moved and lived on a boat due to Sideshow Bob coming after Bart.
This one had a few sharp gags, but overall, it was dismal; certianly not good enough to celebrate 500 epsidoes. This one gets a well deserved 2.3/5. Only a slight Nastuk deductable this time, for some nice shots in act 2.
Wow. Wow. Wow. That episode, for zombie Simpsons episodes standards, was quite good. I had low expectations before this episode was about to air but this suprised me.
Okay in reality it was a simple plot: Simpsons find out town hates them. Simpsons move away from town. Simpsons sneak back to town. Simpsons go back to their new town. One ex town friend join them. Soon the entire ex town friends join them. New town becomes old town in a new place. However, I can honestly say that it was engaging enough and even become enjoyable.
*Another good intro - Loved them quickly going through all the Simpsons couch gags, albeit I think it could have ended better than Homer randomly strangling Bart as they both wear suits. Also liked the chalkboard gag with Bart taking a break, nice touch.
*Maggie applying talc they way she did, was fairly amusing.
*The driving drunk while sober scene, was fairly amusing.
*2 great characters of the classic era coming out with funny lines: Rabbi Krustovsky "I feel like a kid at christmas" and Sideshow Bob actually making me laugh while looking like his former classic self with "I don't even know my position".
*Zombie Flanders kicked out of the town meeting by a giant log - Not funny per se but entertaining enough.
*Homer's "Put that thing down" line to the guy with the gun, when Bart thinks Homer's referring to him as he is pissing.
*The Outlands intro - Short and straight to the point.
*Homer's "Eh I'm sick off watching Fox" line - While I didn't laugh and I knew it was coming, was still a decent joke.
*Homer's (Wow Homer was actually amusing and not completely cringeworthy in this episode) "I'm not wearing any underwear" line - Again not laugh worthy but made me smile.
*Homer and Marge disguised as Mr Burns and Smithers - Altho I think it could have been funnier with some sex joke or something.
*Homer and Marge drunken antics at Bowlarama.
*Homer doing his Walter Matthau voice again.
*Wiggum's banter with Eddie and even a decent Gil line.
*Quimby ironically refusing "Jerk off"
*Smithers jealousy at Mr Burns kissing a monkey disguised as Smithers.
*Skinner being the only one left in Springfield with a nice song over the background.
*Last scene with Bart helping Skinner as he bangs his head against Jebediah Springfield Power Plant.
*'THANKS FOR 500 SHOWS. All we ask is that you go and get some fresh air before logging on the Internet and saying how much this sucked.' HAHA NHC and myself got owned :-)
*"The Outlaaaaaaaaaands" ending our viewing tonight.
*As I said above, think the intro could have ended better than Homer randomly Bart as they both wear suits. That's nitpicking.
*The scenes with Kent Brockman didn't work for me.
*The conversation Homer had with both Grampa and Lisa didn't even produce a smile from me.
*The scene where Homer eats alot of powdered food didn't work.
*Marge and Moe's dialogue was cringeworthy - Seriously never give Marge any funny lines Al Jean.
*Homer shooting gun up in air and Marge's telling off fell flat.
*Homer's "manning up moment". I have no doubt this made all the cast and crew in Matt Selman's kitchen piss themselves laughing but...it failed.
*Julian Assange's cameo was pretty pointless, if not completely pointless.
*More cringeworthy moments from the most cringeworthy characters of Season 23 so far: The bullies.
*In general, when all the characters came to The Outlands, it did feel too rushed and thus the final act was disappointing.
In summary: The highlights outweighed the lowlights for me and everything in between. It did make me laugh - albeit not hard - 3 or 4 times. The problem is that it doesn't flow as naturally as it should when you have a funny or fairly amusing moment followed by a moment that makes you want to scratch your eyes out. Not to mention the final act where all the people of Springfield join the family in The Outlands, it felt too rushed and not developed as much as possible, perhaps the episode needed a couple or even 5 more minutes. However, it was much better than I initially anticipated, I don't regret watching it and it was watchable, even fun at times. The 2nd best episode of Season 23, closely behind Holidays of Future Passed. I'm not going over the top with the episode and it's by no means a classic but it's as classic as we're likely going to see. 4/5, 7/10, kudos Al Jean and thanks for not fucking up episode 500.
Last edited by Bleedin' Gums Murphy; 02-19-2012 at 07:31 PM.
Best 500th episode, ever! This was a GREAT episode, compared to some of the episodes earlier in this season. The jokes were funny and the couch gag was quite fun! The only thing that I didn't like was that the Springfieldians started showing up out of no where and expected to be welcomed.
That's going to work for some people and not for others so the mix in scores is expected.
I felt the quiet scenes with Homer and Marge bonding in remote parts of Springfield to be the best part along with the easy-to-do couch scene montage.
I gave the episode a 3/5... same score as last week.
You're also going to see a lot of people voting for the first time in a while that haven't been keeping current with the show and just tuned in tonight due to the 500th episode hype. Most of them were probably shocked the episode wasn't offensively bad and were kind in their scoring as a result.
Is this one of those episodes where everybody thinks it's good, then when it's mentioned a couple of months later they're like, "Oh yeah, that was shit". I don't trust the high scores. Seems like a 500th episode and meta-reference high.
I don't think so. You know I'm usually a very harsh critic of the show and especially one Al Jean, but he did this 500th episode above justice, for Zombie Simpsons standards. I gave a low 4/5 and 7/10 rating, which I believe is justified, and I don't think I'll ever think I was either too harsh or too lenient.
I really enjoyed it, it was obviously like the Simpsons Movie in a way but it was very enjoyable, second favourite episode this season. Holidays Of Future past is still 1. Two good episodes this season. At the town meeting I thought it was going to be another clip show -__-.
Anyone know how it rated?
This is the first new episode I've watched in YEARS - figured this was a pretty big milestone and I'd have to check it out.
I laughed out loud a LOT. It was rapid-fire gags, so many that I probably missed some because I was laughing over them. I loved the couch gag, and I've heard that a similar one has been done before, but I don't care, I thought it was really awesome especially with the musical piece they played over it. I loved Homer referencing his original S1 voice; Sideshow Bob and Rabbi Krustofsky; the Grand Theft Walrus in the bowling alley; Homer and Marge dressed up as Burns and Smithers (reminded me of Burns and Smithers dressing up as Marge and Bart in Flying Hellfish); and lots of other gags which I can't recall off the top of my head.
And I know the show's been in HD for a few years now so this will sound very n00btastic but the animation on the show is beautiful these days. And on the flipside of things, some of the actors are starting to really show their age voice-wise. I'm sure regular viewers are used to it by now, but I was really thrown off by how Quimby and Moe sounded.
Don't really know how this compares to recent episodes since I haven't seen a new one in so long, but I'd say this episode is on the level of Season 7 or 8. I really enjoyed it.
One thing I found strange was when they showed Homer driving inside the school, taken from "Wild Barts Can't Be Broken". Where was Lenny, Carl and Barney in the photo? And I thought they blamed kids for the destruction?
That card is a grammatical nightmare. I'm aware of the irony of pointing that out. =(
How is it awkwardly worded? o.o
If you can't see how it's awkwardly worded, then look at the title. Either "for" should be capitalized, or "shows" shouldn't. I don't care how nerdy I sound, that's basic elementary school grammar. Ugh... :/
I assume this will not count as cannon and the next episode will be back in good old Springfield.
I won't know of course because I'm done. There were some chuckle worthy moments but they were sight gags and in-jokes mostly, the plots and characters were thin, and the Julian Assange reference was poorly executed to say the least. Did not like it at all.
So as I said a million times, that is it for me. Done with new episodes of Zombie Simpsons. I know some people find ripping a show fun or cool because they don't want to be like everyone else, or rack up some hipster points but I rag on these episodes because I see a lack of quality in something I used to enjoy. Subjective or objective it does not matter.
Oh and the card, I'm sure the Simpsons staff is loving our cynicism, Comic Book Guy will paraphrase us eventually.
(Edit for anybody involved with the show: Yeah, we're picking this to death... but it's only because we love you deep down inside. Maybe one day you can spray some of your "Jerk Off" on us. )
Maybe by "saying how much this sucked", they weren't referring to the episode, but the actual card itself.
It was okay.
Some cute jokes here and there, a couple of nice winks... but the story is a bit of a rehash of the movie and of course a bunch of gags go on way too long. Nothing really too terrible, but I didn't think it was anything special. In fact, that holiday episode was better, and I wasn't a huge fan. Maybe I'm desensitized, I don't know.
Kinda weird they ended on that... I really didn't get what at all they were going for but it was like they had this GREAT premise, and had a pretty decent idea for where to go... but had no idea how to finish it out since they just ran completely out of time. If this was an hour it would've been much better. But innovation isn't really what they want to go for so whatever.
wikipedia article about the extinct epcot attraction "horizons"
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Watched it twice, great milestone episode and good regular episode. I agree with others, this could have been a 40 minute special, but it worked well at 20 minutes. Just moved very fast. I'm glad the meeting wasn't a reference fest, but they did reference three episodes: The Squirt and the Whale, Wild Barts Can't Be Broken and Brother's Little Helper. I liked the whole concept of The Outlands, I actually wanted to spent a bit more time there. The part of me that dislikes how the 200th episode moved the town five miles away wants to think that The Outlands were built on the old Springfield, so now the town is moving back to the original site.
4/5, second fave of the season behind Holidays of Future Pas. Third favorite is The Book Job.
UP AND ATOM!
2/5 - at least "the usual" episodes have endings that are, oh, let's call them, "endings", and don't just drop off the face of the earth for no apparent reason.
And was it just me, or did parts of the episode seem to be drawn off-model?
Oh, and if you're waiting for somebody to go through the couch gags in the opening and point out which ones were used and in what order, you'll have to wait - one of the things AT&T U-Verse doesn't seem to have is any sort of frame-by-frame advance (hey, it took them long enough just to enable pausing and rewinding on more than one box in a home!), but when I get around to burning the episode onto a Blu-Ray, I'll see what I can do.
Written by Michael Price
Directed by Matthew Nastuk
Billboard: The Kwik-E-Mart / Yesterday's Food at Tomorrow's Prices
Chalkboard: BART'S EARNED A DAY OFF (written by Milhouse)
Couch: Scenes from pretty much every couch scene are shown, followed by a single shot of different couch scenes forming "500"; Homer is then shown choking Bart while both are wearing tuxedoes
Special Guest Voice: Julian Assange, Kelsey Grammer, Jackie Mason
Also Starring: Chris Edgerly, Pamela Hayden, Tress MacNelle
Special Musical Guests: Alison Krauss & Union Station
"We'll Meet Again" performed by Susie Stevens
Thanks to: Kathy Lette
Overseas Animation: Rough Draft
TV Rating: TV-PG-DLSV
"Thanks to: Kathy Lette" - author Kathy Lette wrote (or rewrote, depending on the source) Julian Assange's lines.
Milhouse writes the blackboard quote right-handed.
Bart calls Lenny "Lenny Lenford", but in the past, his last name was Leonard.
Homer's ATV is powered by a Braniff jet engine; Braniff is (or at least was) the airline that appears at the end of South Park.
Skinner did a pretty good job of holding onto the rope (especially without gloves, or any knots on the rope).
Yes, I actually did "go out and get some fresh air" before posting this...but who "logs on the internet" any more?
The 100th episode featured all seven regular "non-stars" at the time - Marcia Wallace, Albert Brooks, Pamela Hayden, Tress MacNeille, Russi Taylor, Doris Grau, and Frank Welker. This time, only three of the "regulars" appeared. Yes, I know Doris Grau is dead, but couldn't they have written in a line for, say, Martin, or Helen Lovejoy?
Last edited by That Don Guy; 02-20-2012 at 09:00 AM. Reason: Added reason for Kathy Lette's credit
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