The critic season 3

[Toaster9000]

The critic season 3
I am not talking about the AtomFilms.com series
But According to The TV IV, nine scripts were already written for the planned third season and the show was going to be moved to UPN, but an agreement was not reached

So I went here
http://tviv.org/The_Critic

Remember the episode L.A Jay
Where his script was too good to be made
So it was put away with the others

Watch on you tube if you don’t lol

But any way about these scripts

Are they even real or is it just a rumor

Are any of these scripts publicly available?
Relapsed in a book or leaked onto the internet

I know it raises a few copyright issues but

Are these scripts real or fake
is there any proof that they exist

[Ryan]

The network usually can order nine scripts for the "back nine" in case they want to immediately pick it up to play the rest of the season. In the case of The Critic, they were airing these with the summer ahead, so FOX most likely had them written for the fall if this is true

As for being released, nah. The unproduced Mission Hill scripts have been floating around for ages, if these have ever they'd be probably just as easy to find.

[gomez]

what happened at roswell?

[DotheBartman]

Especially with lead times, etc, I think unproduced scripts are common with cancelled animated series. Family Guy even had a few that were finally produced when it was revived. They have to be prepared just in case, otherwise they won't be able to finish the episodes on time if they get picked up.

[Toaster9000]

I was wondering if they had been leaked / pirated
If someone secretly photocopied a script
And copies of copies of copies are available online

It’s unlikely that they will ever be animated

But will they ever be publicly available

There are probably millions of scripts for uncreated episodes of to shows and movies

If there was a big book of unproduced scripts for canceled shows
I think that people would buy it

[Toaster9000]

If some body were to make a book
The TV that will never be
And bought the scripts from the companies holding them

They could make a fortune

Perhaps this could be a weekly book/magazine
I mean there not making any money if there just collecting dust in a cupboard

[Matty]

These are some of the known premises of those 9/10 scripts:

- 'Single White Female' parody where a guy starts copying Jay's lifestyle and dressing like him
- Jay becomes a Nashville Country Critic
- Marty gets involved in a fixed quizshow

[Steve]

If some body were to make a book
The TV that will never be
And bought the scripts from the companies holding them

They could make a fortune

Perhaps this could be a weekly book/magazine
I mean there not making any money if there just collecting dust in a cupboard

Is it me or does this post read like a Haiku or something?

[Toaster9000]

These are some of the known premises of those 9/10 scripts:

- 'Single White Female' parody where a guy starts copying Jay's lifestyle and dressing like him
- Jay becomes a Nashville Country Critic
- Marty gets involved in a fixed quizshow

So there are 3 things known about the scripts

But where did the information come from

Company website, or did someone involved with the syndication or production of the critic tell people?

Is there any way to confirm this information is correct or that they still exist?

Who leaked this information?

Surely someone has read them
Someone involved with the syndication or production of the critic might have a copy

The companies holding the copyright would probably release them if there were 2 things

Demand & profit

[Toaster9000]

Is it me or does this post read like a Haiku or something?

Well I am trying to express some ideas
So it may seem like a Haiku for that reason

People would get to see the television that never was
While the copyright holders could cash in on the scripts that have been merely been collecting dust over the years

Why not?

[jet]

The companies holding the copyright would probably release them if there were 2 things

Demand & profit

chills.

[Toaster9000]

chills.

What I meant to say is that if the idea was presented to them and there was demand for it
They could put the scripts in a book and sell it

They would only do this if they knew people wanted to buy it
And that they would make allot of money from it

Perhaps weed see them

[Jims]

They would only do this if they knew people wanted to buy it
And that they would make allot of money from it

the critic is old
the definition of niche
not that valuable

[Real Melvin]

if the scripts were ordered, then it would be FOX who owns the scripts, right?

I wouldn't be surprised if they got shredded 10 years ago. and even if they're still around in their copyrighted junk warehouse, there'd be no motivation. I know the script to Pulp Fiction got released in book form. it probably sold moderately well. but I doubt something much less popular than Pulp Fiction (for example a 15+ year old TV show that got cancelled after 20 episodes) would have enough followers devoted to poring over the scripts. even if they were new scripts.

but I guess you could petition FOX to see them.

[Toaster9000]

the critic is old
the definition of niche
not that valuable

i dont mean the critic alone they could put lots of scripts from lots of shows in one book
just by photo copying them

The spine of the book would be thick if it contained so many
But they would use ultra thin paper any way

they could do it on an electronic book though

they wouldn't get much from exclusively publishing The critic
but if they made it >100 canceled shows in one book
than maybe it would be profitable

[Toaster9000]

if the scripts were ordered, then it would be FOX who owns the scripts, right?

I wouldn't be surprised if they got shredded 10 years ago. and even if they're still around in their copyrighted junk warehouse, there'd be no motivation. I know the script to Pulp Fiction got released in book form. it probably sold moderately well. but I doubt something much less popular than Pulp Fiction (for example a 15+ year old TV show that got cancelled after 20 episodes) would have enough followers devoted to poring over the scripts. even if they were new scripts.

but I guess you could petition FOX to see them.

i would have to gather at the very least 1000 signatures

and i would have to email it to the company's associated

i think i will make a website for it
Free hoasting site + Dot.Tk
linking to places where the petitions are hosted
and once i have enough shows to pester the company to release ill start collecting signatures and sending them

I could also ask sky to release the scripts from Heil Honey I'm Home while im at it
But those are even more likely to have been shredded

but ill do all that when ive got some free time

I’m going to ask for pulled episodes also

[DotheBartman]

Assuming it was just a book of cancelled shows in general, each show would be owned by different distributors and it would be a lot of legal wrangling just to put them together. And even if it was limited to, say, Disney-owned shows, or Fox-owned shows, or what have you, there'd be the issue that no one really cares that much about unproduced scripts of shows that weren't very successful anyway. Find some unproduced scripts for Cheers and Seinfeld, and you might have a hit book on your hands. And even then, maybe only if you found a script where Sam and Diane were shot to death, or Jerry turned out to be an international spy. Something major like that that would have greatly affected the rest of the show had they been made.

The best bet, assuming any of them had the rights to do so, would be for some of the screenwriters to release them online themselves. There's probably a bunch of rejected pilot scripts sitting in writers' drawers, and hell, a lot of them ARE probably online assuming no one bought them. (No one would buy them in a book, though.) The Critic ones, though, you'll just have to let go.

[Kiyosuki]

Put it on the same shelf as the Hey Arnold! Jungle Movie, and the uncompleted parts of Moral Orel's last season.

Though like I said in the Critic thread a billion years ago, while it was a fun little series at first, I could easily see why it was cancelled early. It started to repeat itself very, very soon into its run. By the second season the show just felt like it was running in circles. Its too bad because it didn't have to go that way, but I don't think they used the show's premise as well as they could have and it never really found its stride because of it.

[DotheBartman]

It's a hilarious show that I devoured in its entirety over the course of a couple weeks or so a few years ago. I enjoyed it a lot. But it's hard to pick out particular episodes or characters that really stand out at all (except for the dad, he rules). It survived mostly on the strength of Jay and the individual jokes; I can't say it had many great plotlines or created much investment in the characters for me. After watching a few episodes in a sitting, I would have trouble remembering what the first one was that I had just watched.

So yeah, I can sort of understand its cancellation. It had a lot of great talent behind it and was really funny, but it just never really caused anyone to care about the characters like The Simpsons had. Although, in the Family Guy age, that apparently doesn't matter anymore. Maybe it would have done better in recent years.

[Dark Homer]

I should probably get around to watching that show

[Ryan]

Put it on the same shelf as the Hey Arnold! Jungle Movie, and the uncompleted parts of Moral Orel's last season.

Though like I said in the Critic thread a billion years ago, while it was a fun little series at first, I could easily see why it was cancelled early. It started to repeat itself very, very soon into its run. By the second season the show just felt like it was running in circles. Its too bad because it didn't have to go that way, but I don't think they used the show's premise as well as they could have and it never really found its stride because of it.

Funny you should mention that, Kiyo. I recently rewatched the show and thought of your very post recalling the recycled storylines, and I couldn't really find it or remember it. I remember vaguely that the two most used plots that you mentioned were Jay's love life and then something else that for the life of me I can't recall.

[DotheBartman]

Shit, Jay's love life was getting tired by the third or fourth episode. Giving him a girlfriend in season 2 was an improvement in that sense.

[Flimpson Tide]

I remembered quite enjoying The Critic when Comedy Central played it late at night and on Saturday mornings years ago. Then I bought the DVD set and Reelz picked it up, and I realized it wasn't quite as funny as I imagined. But anywho, the DVD commentaries might enlighten you more on the cancellation. I wrote to the guy in charge of critic.nohomers.net once and he told me he was going to dig in to the season that never happened more, but he must have never gotten a hold of the contacts or the information would have been available on the site.

[Toaster9000]

Assuming it was just a book of cancelled shows in general, each show would be owned by different distributors and it would be a lot of legal wrangling just to put them together. And even if it was limited to, say, Disney-owned shows, or Fox-owned shows, or what have you, there'd be the issue that no one really cares that much about unproduced scripts of shows that weren't very successful anyway. Find some unproduced scripts for Cheers and Seinfeld, and you might have a hit book on your hands. And even then, maybe only if you found a script where Sam and Diane were shot to death, or Jerry turned out to be an international spy. Something major like that that would have greatly affected the rest of the show had they been made.

The best bet, assuming any of them had the rights to do so, would be for some of the screenwriters to release them online themselves. There's probably a bunch of rejected pilot scripts sitting in writers' drawers, and hell, a lot of them ARE probably online assuming no one bought them. (No one would buy them in a book, though.) The Critic ones, though, you'll just have to let go.

It would have to be through a lot of licensing and copyright

But it could be 1 book per network


Or perhaps this idea could be better done in a weekly magazine

If the network would license the scripts to the publisher and receive a percentage of the profit

They could also put like a billion advertisements in the magazine to raise that percentage

And to stop people from buying only the magazines with there chosen show
They could
Give you half of a script 7 times
And give you the other halves of each of the scripts in the next issue

It would not be a hit if it was one show
if it had many different un produced shows
And pulled episodes
Than it could be more popular

[Toaster9000]

Put it on the same shelf as the Hey Arnold! Jungle Movie, and the uncompleted parts of Moral Orel's last season.

If that was done

Buyers of the book = Moral Orel fans + Hey Arnold fans + the critic fans

Moral Orel fans + Hey Arnold fans + tha critic fans = bigger sales due to wider audience

you also have the people who are just interested in what was canceled

[Oh, that's raspberry!]

I really enjoyed the Critic, I even watched episodes on their original air dates as a child, but it isn't surprising that it was canceled....

[DotheBartman]

If that was done

Buyers of the book = Moral Orel fans + Hey Arnold fans + the critic fans

Moral Orel fans + Hey Arnold fans + tha critic fans = bigger sales due to wider audience

you also have the people who are just interested in what was canceled

All owned by different companies, and with niche audiences.

I think if you were to compile scripts from a cancelled (not just ended) series...it would need to be something with a really dedicated fanbase and a series that actually left a lot of things hanging when it got canned. Not that any unused scripts of this series exist I don't think, but a book of unused "Firefly" scripts would probably do reasonably well, for instance. But even if scripts for shows like "The Critic" or "Hey Arnold" came out, I think people would be interested enough to skim the Wikipedia pages and get a gist of what could have been, but probably wouldn't quite care enough to spend hours reading scripts. I wouldn't, and I own "The Critic" on DVD.