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This has been bugging me for some time now.
Lisa and Bart are second and fourth graders at an elementary school. Yet at times, it shows that the kids are in a middle school because there is a bell which may signify the end of one class and they are shown roaming the halls midday.
I am confused. Perhaps discussion on the subject will cause me to make more sense of it. Thank you.
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08-11-2010, 08:39 AM #1
Springfield Elementary
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08-11-2010, 08:41 AM #2Profound Sadness
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Springfield plays by its own rules.
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08-11-2010, 11:58 AM #3Her and Cigarettes
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that was the biggest problem I always had with the show.
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08-11-2010, 12:04 PM #4Everything You Ever Dreamed
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That's a very good question...
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08-11-2010, 01:13 PM #5Malcontent
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Completely ruins my suspension of disbelief.
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08-11-2010, 01:51 PM #6Internet, eh?
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Kearney who has a Son, is still illegible to attend Springfield Elementary so God knows what's going on there.
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08-11-2010, 02:00 PM #7Stonecutter
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Closest excuse I can give is recess, which could explain a bell and hall roaming. However, I'm overly familiar with the US elementary school system, and I didn't attend school so I can't draw personal comparisons.
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08-11-2010, 03:10 PM #8
It's called broadening the satire of school systems in general so the writers have more freedom to keep the show relatable to older audiences considering the kids don't age. It's not a mistake by any means or even a cheat because the whole concept that it's an elementary school is not meant to be taken so literally. It's stretching some boundaries when compared to the reality of your average elementary school system, but it's not something to be bothered by.
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08-11-2010, 06:03 PM #9Stonecutter
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There is a lot of characteristics of Springfield Elementery that resemble middle and high school anyway.
"Homer vs Patty and Selma" features "P.E. sign up" as part of the sub-plot. Most elementery schools at least in America don't have this. All students in the same class attend P.E. together. In fact, at my high school, we didn't have the option of choosing our P.E. classes until the 11th grade.
P.E. classes in the gymnasium constantly features students in gym uniforms which suggests that there are locker rooms at the school and we see one in the episode Wild Barts Can't Be Broken and there is also communal showers in there as well. That could also mean there could be an "everyone must shower" policy at the school even though the rule nowadays is often regarded as outdated.
There are also suggestions that the school teaches middle and high school elective classes too:
"Lisa on Ice" suggests the school teaches Home Economics (Nelson does quite well in it)
"Lisa gets an A" suggests the school has shop class (Bart substitutes a wooden dummy for himself that he made in the class)Last edited by biffwestwood; 09-11-2010 at 06:55 PM.
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08-11-2010, 07:53 PM #10So it goes
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american schools are weird
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08-11-2010, 08:07 PM #11
shut the hell up, aussie
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08-11-2010, 08:08 PM #12You cut me off mid-funk!
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and they said The Simpsons was a realistic cartoon
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08-11-2010, 08:35 PM #134 of 5 "doctors" recommend
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Family guy has such better realism than this
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08-11-2010, 08:42 PM #14Groin-grabbingly transcedent
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that was the biggest problem you ever had with the show??
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08-11-2010, 08:45 PM #154 of 5 "doctors" recommend
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That was the biggest problem he ever had with the show
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08-11-2010, 10:44 PM #16Her and Cigarettes
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Yeah people complain about the declining writing quality. THat really doesn't bother me. That fucking bell though errrrrrrrrrrrrrr Originally Posted by Uosdwis R. Jewoh
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08-12-2010, 11:16 AM #17Malcontent
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Yeah god fucking damn it I can't believe they added a fucking bell to an elementary school.
I will not be able to move on with my life until they correct this.
GOD DAMN IT THIS IS TEARING ME UP INSIDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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08-12-2010, 12:30 PM #18Groin-grabbingly transcedent
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how did that happen, i beat you on that one and you get the credit Originally Posted by bartyboy
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08-12-2010, 12:39 PM #19Bake 'em away toys!
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I was answering your question Originally Posted by Uosdwis R. Jewoh
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08-12-2010, 01:36 PM #21I Always Want To Be Eaten
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wow, i never paid much attention to this. but damn now it's all I'm gonna think about when watching school related scenes
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08-12-2010, 02:01 PM #22Groin-grabbingly transcedent
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gotcha Originally Posted by bartyboy
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08-13-2010, 03:54 AM #23
Yeah, I never really paid much attention to this, but now that you bring it up, it is odd. It still doesn't really bother me, though.
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08-13-2010, 07:46 AM #25Gourmand
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My elementary school had bells. And that was back in the 60's, so there is some precedence for them. Originally Posted by CalculatedChaos
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08-13-2010, 12:40 PM #26British and Proud
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Gotta agree!! England high-five Originally Posted by hammster
Anyway, British schools make more sense. 3-11 yrs in Primary School, 11-18 in Secondary. Simples.Add me on Steam - ultralex13
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08-13-2010, 12:46 PM #27
No. British school system is fucked aswell. In England it's as you described it but in Leicestershire (but not in the city of Leicester) it is 4-11 then 11-14 followed by 14-18. No consistency.
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08-14-2010, 10:05 PM #28British and Proud
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Oh, maybe its just me :S Originally Posted by hammster
No. British school system is fucked aswell. In England it's as you described it but in Leicestershire (but not in the city of Leicester) it is 4-11 then 11-14 followed by 14-18. No consistency.
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