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  1. #151
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    I have to watch this episode again.
    But for the moment, it's the worst episode of the season 21. 8/20 2/5

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    During the original airing, I absolutely hated it. However, I didn't know they were referencing Face/Off (as I've never actually seen it). But as it reaired, I began to come around. While not the best Sideshow Bob episode, it's a decent. If I were to point out some specific criticisms, it's that I think at this point in the series, Bob needs some real motivation to attack Bart now. While I'm glad they don't feel the need to run down all of SSB's misdoings, they should provide a new reason for him to get involved in the Simpsons' lives. Also, Bart's solution/prevention isn't that creative. He's foiled Bob in much more impressive ways that call the cops.

    Overall, though, the episode is pretty good. The ending with Flanders' relatives moving in is fantastic.

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    The Bob Next Door

    Okay... This is by far the worst Bob episode in history. The reason for this being that despite referencing Face/Off, it kinda strips the remaining intelligence that Sideshow Bob has, and the uniqueness that he had. See, later Sideshow Bob episodes had Sideshow Bob trying to kill The Simpsons family, then singlehandedly reduced it to killing Bart for like no reason. I don't even know why he has a vendetta against Bart, I mean he did ruin his plan to replace Krusty as host but we've seen Sideshow Bob with Krusty in later episodes and in the earlier episodes he didn't want to kill Bart. So why does he want to kill him now? I mean why go to all the effort to kill Bart in extravagent ways, I mean why doesn't he just shoot him right there and now, why go to all the effort?

    Anyways, the plot is what needs the most criticism here. It just shows that these creators care about adding in the most stuff they possibly can within 22 minutes rather then keeping it simple. I mean Sideshow Bob is supposed to be smart to the point where fine arts, personal opinions, feelings and underexpectation of things are supposed to be his downfall. Here he's just smart for the purpose of the plot, which could of had a lot more work done to it. For one, most of the scenes don't seem to fit within a Bob episode, especially the one where "Bob" invites most of Springfield for wi-fi, the one where Marge suddenly appears in Bob's house and the one where Homer orders a taco while yet again misunderstanding another foreign culture.

    I also take slight offense to the face switching scene. The first time it's funny but the second time it's just weak and meant to incite shocks in the audience... Yup, you heard me. I mean sure, it's an alright way to enforce the Face/Off parody thing but if you use that same scene again for shock humor then it just shows that the writers are really, really weak. Additionally the confrontation in the Four Corners just feels off, like Sideshow Bob has lost the ruthfulness that he had in the past (Hint: Bob seems to have lost the ability to shoot a gun quickly, nor reasonably shoot somebody important. I mean if you're going to kill somebody in the four corners then you should at least push him down to the ground and shoot him, don't let him jump around while cheap animation accompanies him.) He just seems to be a shell for whatever happens until the end where police officers obviously capture him due to some stupid lampshade reason (The hybrids being tracked by the government is just okay, though it does contradict Sideshow Bob's republicanism.) I expected Bart to like knock down Bart and Walt Warren to assist in knocking him out but I guess I was wrong. Also I really doubt that it would be that easy, I'm guessing the conversation should of gone like this.

    BART: Hello, Police...
    WIGGUM: Bart? What is it young man?
    BART: Listen, I was wondering if you could do me a favor.
    WIGGUM: Ah, what kind of favor?
    BART: The guy next to me, Walt Warren. I have a feeling that he's Sideshow Bob...
    WIGGUM: Yeah (laughs) Him Sideshow Bob, like he actually swaped faces with someone else.
    BART: Look, can you just follow him around? I have a pretty strong feeling that it's him.
    WIGGUM: Look, you're request is ridiciolous. I mean look at how stupid you're sounding right now.
    BART: Please, I mean just think to all the times I caught Bob for you.
    (Clancy Wiggum then takes a moment to think.)
    WIGGUM: Alright, I'll follow him for you if it'll make you happy. What kind of car does he drive.
    BART: Uh, a hybrid... A blue hybrid sedan. Please hurry, I don't know if I'm safe with him.
    WIGGUM: Don't worry, we'll follow that car around like Knight Rider.
    BART: Ah, thanks a bunch, you have no idea how much debt I owe you.
    WIGGUM: I'm pretty sure I'm aware of that.

    At least that'd make more sense then the lampshade that we got.

    So about the characters. I have to say that Bart was alright in this, he got in some lines that were decent enough to serve the episode. Walt Warren (despite him escaping like an escape artist) was a serviceable guest star and Kelsey Grammar does the best he can with the material he's given, almost having the best lines of the episode. Much of the Simpsons family felt disposable and only served some purpose in scenes involving Bart and his worry about the new neighbor, the rest of the episode we see them in Mexico while Homer orders a Taco. So by reading the above sentence, the only characters that get decent spotlight time is Walt Warren, Bart and Sideshow Bob; all of the others were a waste, including that unfunny waitress lady who's only purpose was to provide the shock value gag.

    Speaking of which... Most of the jokes were 50/50, that means they either hit or missed. I have to say that their attempts at recession humor just fall flat, despite the material still being relevant. Much of it just feels one note and they don't really feel much need to go further and deeper with this type of humor; additionally much of the humor involving the Simpsons was only okay, including that bit with the prision and some of Marge's lines. Bart does manage to get in some good lines and Sideshow Bob does manage to bring some funny moments but Bart's good lines need to be weighed in with emotion/fear or else this episode loses most of it's weight.

    At the end of the day though, it's just one of the line in Season 21 episodes that just happens to feature Bob. If you don't care about the fact that Bob doesn't feel like himself in these post Season 13 episodes and if you ignore the obvious flaws he does then this is a decent Season 21 episode good for a killing of 21 minutes, but even in that context it still does not live up to previous episodes, even previous Bob episodes.

    4.0/10

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    I gave this episode a 1/5, despite the fact that there were isolated moments that I liked. Like most season 20-22 episodes that I’ve seen, the beginning (especially Homer’s fantasy about cooking the books and fudging the numbers) was pretty good and the ending (with Flanders’ cousin moving into the neighborhood) was alright. In terms of overall quality (characterization, humor, etc), The Bob Next Door wasn’t as appalling as any other 1/5 episode in my book (Greatest Story, Saddlesore, KTAAR, Principal/Pauper, etc). Still, it deserves a 1/5 for the way it bastardized the Bob/Bart dynamic, specifically turning Bart into the victim instead of the hero.

    Whereas early Sideshow Bob episodes had Bart as the hero who cleverly outsmarted the self-important villain, this episode had Bart playing the victim until (highly coincidental/improbable) intervening forces rescued him. True, Bart sort of tried foiling Bob by “jumping” between jurisdictions at the very end, but ultimately those intervening forces saved the day.

    This episode felt like it was written to be a Sideshow Bob episode rather than a Bart episode. (What did we learn about Bart in this episode? What did Bart’s character accomplish in this episode? How did Bart’s character develop in this episode? I’m drawing blanks on all 3 questions). Personally, I think all Sideshow Bob episodes should really be about Bart. Half the fun of watching classic “Simpsons” as a kid was relating to Bart’s character: e.g. how awesome it would be (in pure theory) to get into the kinds of trouble he got into, such as (*especially* such as) defeating an evil arch-nemesis like Bob. I think the show’s writers understood that as well. They seemed to get that Bart was *the* icon for kids our age back then (not sure to what extent that’s the case now) and that his adventures should play out like 10-year olds’ daydreams. Here, I felt like Bart was really just there to serve the plot. (I could say that about other OFF members’ placements in a lot of other “post-classic” episodes as well). It seemed like the writers simply asked themselves, “Okay, what can we do with Sideshow Bob?” ripped off a (bad) movie’s premise, and filled in the blanks. It seemed like the writers failed to even attempt considering why Sideshow Bob episodes are so legendary in the first place, and this kind of sloppiness can be more irritating than episodes like “Saddlesore Gallactica” and “The Principal and the Pauper,” which, despite butchering the show’s internal logic, at least try to be something.

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    If you want to do an ultimate S.B. episode, at least have him be intimidating and involved in a interesting story that doesn't involve seeing the movie they are parodying. How about an episode where Bob takes over the power plant, kidnaps Mr. Burns and Smithers and makes a false threat of if Bart's not turned over in one hour, he'll push the Plant's "Meltdown" switch when there isn't a meltdown switch. The drama would be Bart vs. Springfield, and since the plant is maintained by idiots, they also believe Bob's threat of an intentional meltdown.

    Honestly, the "Face off" parody wasn't a complete waste, but the writing staff behind it managed to fuck it up like the way the town fucked up Ned's house in Hurricane Neddy and they expect us to laugh at "The Bob Next Door," unquestionably, despite their good intentions.
    Well, ya'know if you stay positive and forget about trivial things like "proper characterization," "Satire," and "emotional depth" watching new Simpsons episodes can be a seemingly enjoyable lie.

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    They've done all they can with Bob. I think they realized that when they had him move to Italy, but now he's back in Springfield in a Road Runner-type chase with Bart and/or The Simpsons.

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    I like the Face Off reference. An episode with tension and surprises, just the mexico thing is stupid and pointlss.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bartist View Post
    Slightly worse than Funeral For A Fiend, slightly better than Italian Bob.

    The face switching was one of the most disgusting things I've seen on the show, and made worse by seeing the face loosen on both Bob and Walt (when around the diner). It simply kills any potential for this episode to be the likeable, tense Bob adventure it wants to be. The highlight: "someone switched your face, with a butt".

    4/10
    I've actually changed my mind. This is worse than Italian Bob.

    3/10.

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    Second best post-classic Bob episode after Day of the Jackanapes.
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    Why does everyone hate the face scene so much? It's no worse than this scene from Spongebob:
    My Simpsons Season 23 ratings:
    The Falcon and the D'ohman - D Bart Stops to Smell the Roosevelts - C- Treehouse of Horror XXII: F Replaceable You: C+ The Food Wife: B- The Book Job - B The Man in the Blue Flannel Pants - D The Ten-Per-Cent Solution - C Holidays of Future Passed - B+ Politically Inept, with Homer Simpson - C The D'oh-cial Network - C+ Moe Goes From Rags to Riches - D+ The Daughter Also Rises - B-

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    I'm used to those scenes in SpongeBob, many of the viewers don't expect this from The Simpsons and aren't used to seeing someone's face being ripped off

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    most of the people here are teenagers/adults who probably don't watch spongebob anymore, if they ever did. that episode's probably post-movie and i stopped watching a couple years after the movie. so i'm pretty sure people complain about this episode and not that scene from spongebob because most of them probably haven't seen it, or like comicshow molemanbob said, they're probably more used to it from spongebob

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rich Uncle Skeleton View Post
    Why does everyone hate the face scene so much? It's no worse than this scene from Spongebob:
    [IMG]http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h332/poochiedawg/spongebobplanktonsregular.png[*/IMG]
    Because The Simpsons isn't Spongebob. Well, maybe HD-era Simpsons is trying to be.

    But I think the rest of this episode was pretty boring as well.

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    I gave this a 3/5?

    How drunk was I?

    1/5

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    1/5.

    Worst Bob episode ever. Hell, this episode alone was responsible for me starting that thread whether it should be considered to retire of kill him off.

    The face-splicing alone makes it one of the worst episodes ever in my mind. I know I should try and have a more in-depth review, but that and the fact that Bob doesn't even have a line after he gets arrested (which could've helped set up a future ploy) made his a horrible episode.

    If we see Bob again, I suppose they'll have to explain that he had his face re-surgically grafted, and it'll probably be done by Dr. Nick, followed by a series of images of Bob's face turning into one of those "dirt faces" Moe referred to at the end of "Pygmoelian" before seeking plastic surgery to fix all those errors.

    But, most importantly, this was the biggest waste of using him.