...so, what's the next episode?
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I'm just interested to know peoples opinions on how the literal existance of the soul is presented. I feel it is presented as a pyscological entity. And ironmanGLC whatever someone nominates.
while "homer at the bat" is one of my all-time favorite episodes, it's a gag-heavy affair that would probably just lead to little discussion outside of "I love this joke!"
I can't decide between three episodes:
1) Marge vs. the Monorail (my second favorite episode of all-time)
2) Homer's Enemy (would lead to an interesting discussion)
3) Principal and the Pauper (controversial episode)
edit: hammster started the thread, not fear of flying. he should be the one to decide how the nominations work out.
Whats the protocal if ahhgoobras is a no show... Also answer my effin question someone!
Edit: I'm fine with FoFs suggestion but need to know the protocal.
I also like the idea of the name order list, so i'd say we wait for aahgoobras to reply with his episode of choice.
if we do homer's enemy we have to have Jake here, because of his hatred towards it, could make good discussions IMO
the paper is symbolic of bart's soul, but the episode itself knows that it is merely just a emblematic representation. in the end, it's only a macguffin that drives the story forward and forces bart to endure his arduous journey that leads to redemption.
in the end, the episode has no real and true answer on what a soul literally is, and it's all the more greater for that.
I Hereby Choose "You Only Move Twice" as the next episode.
"Look, Marge, you don't know what it's like. I'm the one out there every day putting his ass on the line. And i'm not out of order! You're out of order. The whole freaking system is out of order. You want the truth? You want the truth?! You can't handle the truth! Because when you reach over and put your hand into a pile of goo, that was your best friend's face, you'll know what to do! Forget it, Marge. It's Chinatown!" - Homer's rant.
Just so everyone knows, I wasn't trying to control the thread by making that list, I was just trying to help, so that if we did do it alphabetically then we would have the list ready.
Also, good choice for next weeks episode ahhgoobras, I'm sure it will be another interesting discussion.
I would suggest that if we run into a situation where the person does not respond by the middle of the week, we just go to the next person. The person who missed can put in their choice the next week if they show up afterwards.
Regarding the soul, I somewhat agree in that the occurrences are largely psychological (and in some cases, a form of karma). I've always felt that it was treated in a borderline supernatural way, but whatever it is, it works for me.
To view various lists about my Simpsons opinions, click the link below.
i think any episode can be discussed thoroughly, even Homer at the Bat. i don't want this to be a series of hot topic episodes or obvious canonized greats.
also i'm still not on the list.
"you only move twice" is kind of a move in both directions, though. we'll see how it goes.
My grandpa came to town so i didn't get a chance to review so hhere it is:
This episode starts off with an "ok" couch gag(never really a huge fan of the couch gag but there is a few exceptions).
The first act starts off well with a funny opening scene in the church. i love Love Joy's Rock and or roll line and Milhouse looking out the window and seeing the crows always makes me laugh.
The Moe sub plot is one that really stands out to me as one that almost mimics the main plot. As Forbiddendonut mentioned before I believe both have a lot to do with coming to terms with "selling out". we see that Bart has sold his soul for a measly 5 bux which he gets a pathetic bunch of foam dinos in an attempt to scare his sister(not a great part of you to give up for something so useless). We also see Moe and Bart having a hard time dealing with "selling out". We see Bart unable to open doors and impress local bullies and we see Moe losing out on money and having kids annoy him with his birthday fries. We both do see them finally realize there mistake once they hit thier respective breaking points(Moe snaps at a child and in the same restaurant we see Bart burst after Lisa's ragging on him.)
What seemed off in this episode though was how strange Milhouse acted. Instead of being Bart's subservant sidekick we see him as someone who tortures Bart to no end by not giving him his soul. I have a hard time figuring out why that is. Is it because he truly just wants the 50 bucks or is it something deeper such as since Bart doesn't believe in souls he doesn't deserve one? possibly. He only see him act this cruel in "Das Bus".
I felt that the ending was very touching. Bart begging for his soul with the long shot camera angles makes the audience feel as if they are God looking down on this poor child begging for his soul back so he can finally feel whole again. I find it truly touching.
A great episode written by Daniels. It always goes up my favs list every time I see it. A
p.s. There was some funny parts
But when Bart comes to him, he's in control, and he takes full advantage of that; it's a kid-like form of petty revenge and as we've seen, he's much more willing to bend over backwards for Bart or to any authority figure than he is to stand up for himself... But now, he's in control of Bart, from both his and Bart's points of views. He's victorious and he's living it up here.
By the time it's 2 AM he probably doesn't care anymore because he's sleepy. But before that happened he was definitely living the life.
I updated the list with the people that wanted to join, and the episodes they picked:
hammster - Bart Sells His Soul
ahhgoobras - You Only Move Twice
Colonel Hap Hapablab
Fear of Flying
Richard Nixon's Head
Squeaky Voiced Teen
the real melvin
You Only Move Twice
Well, it is 2 AM, and since he doesn't even have the soul anymore he would be back to normal, I assume.
Last edited by Real Melvin; 07-07-2010 at 04:45 PM. Reason: I don't like this post
And if Itchy wears shoes, it got to have a reason!
This went well.
But still... shouldn't this be a little less review and a little more discussion/debate?
I liked the episode. Your position?
What in particular do you want to discuss about it?
One thought that occurred to me about the episode is how Bart literally just leaves the family at the restaurant and is out all night in sketchy areas of the city. It was particularly interesting, given that Homer and Marge were basically out of the loop to his whole problem.
Season 21 ratings (A.K.A. Qwert's Generic Sig Vol. II)
Homer The Whopper 7/10 Bart Gets A 'Z' 8.5/10 The Great Wife Hope 9/10 Treehouse Of Horror XX 9.17/10
The Devil Wears Nada 9.5/10 Pranks And Greens 6.5/10 Rednecks And Broomsticks 7.5/10 Oh Brother, Where Bart Thou? 8.5/10
Thursdays With Abie 5.5/10 Once Upon A Time In Springfield 10/10 Million Dollar Maybe 4.5/10 Boy Meets Curl 6/10
The Color Yellow 9/10 Postcards From The Wedge 9.5/10
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