south park general discussion/upcoming episode thread

[Tomacco]

Not too thrilled about this. I'm not really a fan of the first Coon episode, but at least maybe we'll get some more Professor Chaos.

[Revolver]

I liked the first coon episode well enough, but whenever South Park brings back old characters/themes, they tend to simply rehash the same jokes they used the first time and it never turns out well.

[Property of Ned Flanders]

since when did South Park episodes get finished halfway through the weekend?

somehow i doubt they're even half done with the episode.
yay the coon, i loved that episode! i just hope it isn't another government men in black suits conspiracy episode. but it probably will be, won't it

[Granto]

i didn't like the first Coon episode but my main quarrel with it was that it felt unfinished

so maybe this will help

[DotheBartman]

In other South Park news:

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/21/us...LEAIN_BRF.html

[Flimpson Tide]

Kind of funny considering two weeks ago Al Qaeda just happened to save the day.

[NoOneFamous]

Ugh, OF COURSE they would do an oil spill episode...

[Semaj]

And since when did South Park episodes get finished halfway through the weekend?

A better question would be how they're able to produce new episodes so quickly using Maya?

[Flimpson Tide]

I didn't watch it closely enough to review it (was playing Settlers of Cataan while watching), but Jesus Christ, I'm very tempted to go 1/5 thanks to the fucking two-parter shit. Matt and Trey, if you want to pull that crap at least once every season, make your own goddamn comic book or something. This is an animated situation comedy. See, stuff like the annual historical trilogy Simpsons episode I can stand because that's one for every 22 episodes. Here with a format that grew tiring after Cartoon Wars, we're dealing with 2 for every 14 episode season, or 1 out of every 7 episodes. Cartoon Wars was not bad either because it really focused on the goofiness, but every other two-parter has simply crumbled due to getting carried away with the epicness and throwing humor completely out the window. Imaginationland basically acted as the second South Park movie, and I hope to Jesus another movie never gets made because I watch the show to laugh, not get my weekly dose of action/adventure/fantasy.

[Charlie]

yeah, especially when this season already had the 200/201 two-parter. It's a cheap way of ultimately getting rid of having to think of two extra story ideas in a season. That's something that peeved me with Season 10 - the Cartoon Wars two-parter was pretty amazing, and I think Matt and Trey seem to believe that as a result from its' reception that people would like to see more two-parters (three in the case of Imaginationland). What the don't realise is people get pretty bored of it, especially when it's shit like Go God Go and Pandemic. Imaginationland could have even been a single episode, but they had to drag it out by repeating the same jokes over and over.

[NoOneFamous]

giving it a 1/5 for being about the fucking oil spill, rehashing "the coon" which wasn't that interesting the first time, and being another goddamn two-parter.

The only interesting thing was that I could not tell which "hero" Kyle and Kenny were, but I think Kyle was the mosquito.

[Semaj]

I don't have anything against the two (or three) parters, except the Pandemic one was on the dull side. Why does it hurt so bad when a series shakes up its format every so often?

This could lead to a really clever finale, since even Captain Hindsight and his infinite wisdom can't stop the oil spill either.

Plus, maybe they'll tell us who Mysterio is.

[Redem]

Heh I don,t really get the hate, but that episode defitively had a lot of weakness (there's litterally nothing happening in the second act and the episode can't seem to connect the two storyline together)they gave captain Hindsight waaaay too much focus, in fact the whole thing seem like it could have been done without him (and the whole bp we're sorry ad got tiresome fast), the episode seem to have ben built around the struggle of the writers to connect the two plot , so in a way it lack energy,

I loved the clockwork reference, thought I must say having Cartman mom punishing him was unexpected

3/5 I'm kinda looking forward to the next one

Heh I think Clyde probably the only likely to be mysterion

[Mafia]

I like when it's a two parter. Most of the episodes seemed rushed as shit anyway and magically tie up in the last 2 minutes from some deus ex machina. I actually liked this episode and loved the A Clockwork Orange reference.

And I'm thinking Clyde is the Mosquito and Kenny is Mysterion. Kyle being the Human Kite. Mosquito seems a bit more nasally and stands up to Cartman, so it'd be either Kyle or Clyde, but Kyle would not have been beaten up by Cartman.

[Redem]

Hum well doesn't the human kite has blond hair and the fact he doesn't seem to have a line make me think its more likely he is kenny, while the mosquito headbutt with cartman make it a lot more likely he is Kyle

You know I can't help but think that the reason the would give a mosquito costume to Kyle is that its meant to make fun of the racist perception of Jews as bloodsucker

[D DEBBS]

Not bad, but doesn't the BP person look somewhat like Jeremy Clarkson from BBC America's 'Top Gear?'

[Flimpson Tide]

You've gotta admit, the writers must be somewhat careless when they don't even remember to specify which kid is which superhero (besides Mysterion, obviously)...

[TriforceBun]

You've gotta admit, the writers must be somewhat careless when they don't even remember to specify which kid is which superhero (besides Mysterion, obviously)...

I'm thinking it was just so that they can leave it up to the viewer to deduce. Most of them are pretty obvious, while a few are supposed to be a mystery. Cartman, Token, Stan, and Timmy were all obvious, and the blond kid (never seen him before, what's his name?) was Mintberry Crunch. The three that are unrevealed are Clyde, Kyle and Kenny as Mosquito, Human Kite and Mysterion. Hard to tell who's who there.

I don't get the 2-parter hate. It was certainly the highlight of the first half of the season, Go God Go and Imaginationland were both well thought-out and entertaining enough, and Cartoon Wars was one/two of the best episodes of the series, IMO. The Startling was more uneven, but the second part saved it.

Onto the episode itself, though, it was just okay. It was sort of slow-moving and kind of uninteresting, with the usual repeated gags (Captain Hindsight and the BP apologies), but there were enough fun moments, like the beings of unimaginable horror that burst forth from the portal. It was also fun to try to figure out which kid was which. Cartman seems to be getting less funny to me, in general; the swearing is less entertaining nowadays and not really used to comic effect nearly as much.

3/5

[Mira]

You've gotta admit, the writers must be somewhat careless when they don't even remember to specify which kid is which superhero (besides Mysterion, obviously)...

Because they want us to figure out which kid is Mysterion. They have to leave some options open. Anyway, I think it's Kenny. Kyle is the Human Kite.

[Sniper Squirrel]

since Mysterion spoke to Kyle in the first Coon episode, it has to be Kenny or Clyde

[Flimpson Tide]

Apparently they're billing tonight's episode as the revealing of Mysterion. Way to kill a funny episode, Matt and Trey. The whole damn joke of the original was that the audience couldn't tell who the hell he was. But let's go ahead and turn a comedic look at superheroes into serious episodic bullshit.

I don't think I've complained about the show this much before, so hopefully next week will be a return to form and I'll go back to finding it funny. Well, I'll actually go back to watching it first of all.

[arii]

Yeah, I get that a show should evolve in order to survive, especially if it's going on this long, but it's one thing to tweak your style and it's another to abandon your roots entirely.

Disappointing, to say the least.

[TriforceBun]

Eh, I don't mind the reveal of Mysterion. Matt/Trey are usually good at this sort of big reveal (like Cartman's real dad earlier this year), and it's not like the original joke is lost because of it. Besides, most people feel that "The Coon" wasn't a particularly great episode anyway so it's not like they're trudging all over classic episode territory or whatever.

I will agree that South Park's overall writing quality of the past few years hasn't been great, but the premise of this episode is mostly unrelated to that.

[D4C]

I argue that the premise of every South Park episode is entirely reliant on the writing quality, and vice versa. Issues and things to talk about or parody are the foundation for everything they do now. If they can't get a good start on that, it ends in catastrophic failure. Hence why it's sucked consistently for some years now.

Wiki'd the reveal since it won't air here for a while. I'm sure that'll make people... happy? I don't know. I need a "Who cares?" image.

[jordan]

Apparently they're billing tonight's episode as the revealing of Mysterion. Way to kill a funny episode, Matt and Trey. The whole damn joke of the original was that the audience couldn't tell who the hell he was. But let's go ahead and turn a comedic look at superheroes into serious episodic bullshit.

I'm sorry but what are you talking about?

It was in no way THE WHOLE DAMN JOKE. It's only been one episode...are you seriously implying they are tarnishing something by telling who Mysterion is? Was that even the point of the episode, or just a sly little funny thing along the sidelines? Are you one of those people that hated them for delaying WHO IS CARTMAN'S FATHER back in the day?

I just feel like you aren't...getting what they're going for? This is in no way "serious episodic bullshit." You just seem way too enraged over this show. Trey and Matt just throw stuff at a wall and see what sticks. They rush these shows out and barely have time to second guess themselves. The thing about this show is it can be completely different from week to week, so why waste so much energy absolutely fuming over something like this? So they want to say who Mysterion (a character they just introduced) is, how is that ruining some golden comedy rule that they set up?

Sorry this was bugging me.

[Mafia]

It's about time Kenny got some fuckin screentime after being neglected the past few seasons (purity ring episode aside). Knowing he's Kenny and seeing Kenny actually get some characterization is great. He's had a semi-heroic past (ala sacrificing himself in the movie). I liked part 2 way more than part 1. Seems like this episode, and maybe next, might be a way to make up for the lack of Kenny (in lieu of Butters) over the later half of the show.

[Jakebert]

tonight was the first time i've watched a south park episode in a while, but i really liked it. i actually thought the kenny thing had a real spark of humanity in it, even though the entire concept was obviously cartoony as hell. the part where he was talking to his parents was almost kind of sad in a way. really interesting stuff.

cthulu was clever, and i liked that they tied it in with the god kids and even played with lovecraft's mythos and stuff. the bp stuff and lebron stuff annoyed me. mostly the lebron stuff, but that mostly comes from being an ohioan who is just tired of hearing about lebron one way or another.

[Swish]

thought the lebron stuff was clever. as was Kenny's take on always dying and people not adknowledging it.

really liked this one.

[Cole]

yeah, i loved the lebron ad. aside from that, i really didn't care for anything else in this episode ... i actually liked part 1 too.


cartman interacting with the monster bored the shit out of me.

[D4C]

Everyone loves My Neighbor Totoro, Cole.