Season 10

[TheEye5]

I can't understand why so much people I know consider season 10 as one of the worst seaons... I watched almost every episode , and loved almost every one of them.
The good ones:
When you dish upon a star
D'oh-in in the wind
Lisa gets an A
Homer Simpson in: "Kidney Trouble"
Mayored to the Bob
Wild Barts can't be broken ( #1 )
Marge Simpson in: 'Screaming Yellow Honkers' ( #3 )
Maximum homerdrive ( #2 )
Simpsons bible stories
Mom and pop art

The Bad ones:
Viva Ned flanders
Monty can't buy love
Homer to the max

The other ones are either normal or I didn't watch them.

Can anyone who hates this season explain to me why?
Thanks from now guys

[Mr Black]

how about stupid plots , bad jokes, tastless humour and poor characterisation . I'll give you the full lowdown later

[CeetjeBeetje]

I don't hate this season at all, I consider it to be a really good one as a matter of fact.
Sure, there are a few poorly designed plots like 'Monty can't buy me love' and 'When you dish upon a star', but most of the episodes are really good.
Good Episodes:
'Lard of the Dance'
'The Wizard of Evergreen Terrace'
'Treehouse of Horror IX' (Funniest THOH)
'Lisa Gets an 'A''
'Mayored to the Mob'
'Viva Ned Flanders'
'Homer to the Max'
'I'm with Cupid'
'Marge Simpson in: 'Screaming Yellow Honkers''
'Maximum Homerdrive'
'Mom and Pop Art'
'They Saved Lisa's Brain'

Wow! I'm surprised how many episodes I like, I guess this is one of my favorite seasons

[D'ohmer]

The only season 10 episodes I don't like are Lard of the Dance, Wild Barts Can't Be Broken and They Saved Lisa's Brain. I think the reason why people don't like it is because it's wackier. However, I actually like the wackiness for a change.

[Mr Black]

The only season 10 episodes I don't like are Lard of the Dance, Wild Barts Can't Be Broken and They Saved Lisa's Brain.

You really do have an unpopular opinion.

Classics

Wild Barts Can't be broken
D'oh in the wind
Lard of the Dance
Mayored to the Mob

Good quality

Wizard of Evergreen Terrace
Bart the Mother
They saved lisa's brain
Mom and pop art
TOH IX
Lisa gets an A

Meh

Simpsons Bible stories
Homer to the Max
When you dish upon a star

Poor

I'm with cupid
Marge simpson in "screaming yellow honkers"
Maximum Homerdrive
Homer simpson in Kidney trouble
Monty can't buy me love
Viva ned flanders

Overall it is a pretty big step down from season 9, which was just a pit off shape overall.

[Léo Pard]

As I said earlier, I think that season 10 is the last of the golden age, last classic season. It still contains many good episodes and not a lot of bad.

Maximum Homerdrive 18
Mom and Pop Art 18
Mayored to the Mob 17
Thirty Minutes over Tokyo 17
Lisa Gets an "A" 17
Homer Simpson in : "Kidney Trouble" 16
The Wizard of Evergreen Terrace 16
Treehouse of Horror IX 15
Wild Barts Can't Be Broken 15
Viva Ned Flanders 15
Lard of the Dance 14
Homer to the Max 14
Simpson Bible Stories 13
Bart the Mother 13
When You Dish Upon a Star 12
Sunday, Cruddy Sunday 12
Monty Can't Buy Me Love 11
The Old Man and the "C" Student 11
D'oh-in in the Wind 10
Marge Simpson in: "Screaming Yellow Honkers" 10
They Saved Lisa's Brain 8
Make Room for Lisa 8
I'm with Cupid 7

[Jared]

Where's Jake? Doesn't he have a form letter for this kind of thing.

[Darkel]

As I said earlier, I think that season 10 is the last of the golden age, last classic season. It still contains many good episodes and not a lot of bad.

What makes it classic. What for you makes a good episode. What do you rate it on? There are at least 3 or 4 Jean seasons better than 10.

[Green Man]

Well, as long as we're doind this:

Awesome
Wild Barts Can't Be Broken
Lisa Gets an "A"
Thirty Minutes over Tokyo
Lard of the Dance
Mom and Pop Art

Great
The Old Man and the "C" Student
Treehouse of Horror IX
I'm with Cupid

Good
Marge Simpson in: "Screaming Yellow Honkers"
D'oh-in in the Wind
Mayored to the Mob
Simpsons Bible Stories
When You Dish Upon a Star
Homer Simpson in: "Kidney Trouble"

Above Avarage
Viva Ned Flanders
Homer to the Max
Maximum Homerdrive
Make Room for Lisa

Poor
The Wizard of Evergreen Terrace
Bart the Mother
Monty Can't Buy Me Love

Awful
Sunday, Cruddy Sunday
They Saved Lisa's Brain

[lardofthedance2]

Though it wasn't one of their better seasons I still think it was good and in my opinion, the last classic season before it REALLY went downhill, but thats just me

[Léo Pard]

What makes it classic. What for you makes a good episode. What do you rate it on? There are at least 3 or 4 Jean seasons better than 10.

For me, a good episode contains a good scenario, a lot of good gags, and makes me have a good moment. And a "season classic" must contain many successful episodes and little bad.
For me, this is the case of season 10.

[qwertyuio]

This fragment of the season explains perfectly my thoughts about it:

When You Dish Upon A Star 4.5/10
D'oh-in In The Wind 9/10
Lisa Gets An 'A' 10/10
Homer Simpson In "Kidney Trouble" 5.5/10
Mayored To The Mob 10/10
Viva Ned Flanders 5/10
Wild Barts Can't Be Broken 10/10 and Best Episode
Sunday, Cruddy Sunday 4/10 and Worst Episode
Homer To The Max 6/10

Nine consecutive and discontinous weeks in terms of quality. I think that season 10 is, above all, irregular. I don't hate it as much as Jake and the chilliman but it has to deal with that reality. It's not terribly bad, not even really bad in the strict sense, but it gives six of one and half a dozen of the other. Sometimes classic memorable stuff, sometimes painfully dull (if not terrible at all).

[The Governor]

Where's Jake? Doesn't he have a form letter for this kind of thing.

Yeah, it reads: "Jared, who forged your transcript, dickhead?"

[Ben Chan]

It's not terribly bad, not even really bad in the strict sense, but it gives six of one and half a dozen of the other. Sometimes classic memorable stuff, sometimes painfully dull (if not terrible at all).

Great post and I agree entirely.

I think something to remember as well is that what made The Simpsons great is that it was at once insightful, emotional, clever, funny and wrapped up into a neat 22 minute bun. By season 10 several of these pillars had come undone. It was no longer insightful - it was instead about Homer regularly going on some kind of whacky adventure and developing some kind of whacky scam.

There's nothing clever about painting eggs or going on a trip to see some football. These things aren't inherently bad, but in season 10 they're underdeveloped and left as they are. An example: Twenty Minutes Over Tokyo sees the family engage in some whacky antics and go on a crazy Japanese TV show while making some great cultural jabs. Compare that to the classic, Bart v Australia where we see the same, but at its core it's a story about Bart (who was at that time, still a bit of a Dennis-the-Menace type icon) terrorising an entire country. Classic episodes had something to say an addition to being clever, funny, ra ra ra.

I could go on but I think I've hit at the core: There's nothing especially bad about season 10 but it is, at its best, irregular and mediocre. It was still a great show, but it's nothing compared to what The Simpsons could have been.

Sadly, the only place where blame can be placed is upon the self-professes laziness of the showrunner, where everything was "aaaah, good enough!"

[Granto]

GREAT:
Mayored To The Mob
Make Room For Lisa
Wild Barts Can’t Be Broken
Treehouse of Horror IX
GOOD:
Maximum Homerdrive
Lisa Gets An A
Viva Ned Flanders
D’oh-in the Wind
Homer to the Max
Sunday Cruddy Sunday
Mom and Pop Art
I’m With Cupid
The Wizard of Evergreen Terrace
Bart the Mother
The Old Man and the “C” Student
When You Dish Upon a Star
Lard of the Dance
AVERAGE:
Thirty Minutes Over Tokyo
Marge Simpson in: Screaming Yellow Honkers
They Saved Lisa’s Brain
BAD:
Monty Can’t Buy Me Love
Homer Simpson in: Kidney Trouble
Simpsons Bible Stories

So overall it's a reasonably good season, but when it comes so close after the classic era, it's hard to see it as a good season. But when you compare it to season like 19 and 20, it's certainly nothing close to a bad season

[Green_Peaness]

So overall it's a reasonably good season, but when it comes so close after the classic era, it's hard to see it as a good season. But when you compare it to season like 19 and 20, it's certainly nothing close to a bad season

Agreed...I think it's underrated because it's always compared to the best years of the show. The Jean years are overrated because they're compared to Scully years.

[TheEye5]

Agreed...I think it's underrated because it's always compared to the best years of the show. The Jean years are overrated because they're compared to Scully years.

You're totally right.
The Best years of the show are awesome , and the " not " best years of the show are great.
I think that some don't like this season because they compare it to other seasons. If they don't compare any season to the show's best year, most of the people will see that all simpson seasons are great.

By the way, it's the first thread I post which gets more than 2~3 post.

[hughes]

My personal opinion of Season 10 is that it's one of the weaker seasons of the series, not because of a plethora of outright crap (one bottom 5 episode and two other very bad ones) but because there were very few standout episodes. I haven't formally gone through and graded the season yet, but there would only be two, maybe three 15s, and while there would be quite a few episodes in the 12-14 range, that is for me a very low number of fantastic episodes in a season (for example, 12 may have more crappy episodes, but its best episodes are better than anything in Season 10, IMO).

[Mr Black]

the average season 10 episode is a lot better than the average season 12 episode . There is some real shit in season 12

[The Governor]

the average season 10 episode is a lot better than the average season 12 episode . There is some real shit in season 12

IMO, Seasons 10-12 are the same season spread over three years, filled asshole Homer and where he's the star of 2/3rds of all the episodes. I'd take Seasons 13-16 over the Scully Era (Season 9 would tie with 13-16, though.)

[zitro]

This is a pretty good season actually. While there are some stinkers and the characters started becoming cartoons, the writers came up with some really funny jokes scattered throughout the season.

Awesome
none

Great
Lisa Gets an "A"
Mayored to the Mob
Treehouse of Horror IX
The Wizard of Evergreen Terrace

Good
Thirty Minutes over Tokyo
Lard of the Dance
Marge Simpson in: "Screaming Yellow Honkers"
Mom and Pop Art
D'oh-in in the Wind
Wild Barts Can't Be Broken
The Old Man and the "C" Student
Bart the Mother

Decent
I'm with Cupid
Viva Ned Flanders
Homer to the Max
Simpsons Bible Stories
Make Room for Lisa
They Saved Lisa's Brain

Poor
Maximum Homerdrive
Homer Simpson in: "Kidney Trouble"
Monty Can't Buy Me Love

Awful
When You Dish Upon a Star
Sunday, Cruddy Sunday

[supmandude]

This is what it became after that season:

[The Governor]

A scene from an extremely overrated season as an analogy for another extremely overrated season.

[hughes]

Your point being? Yeah, it wasn't the best scene ever, but it's not like it's the most horrible shot of The Simpsons since Season 10!

[The Governor]

Your point being? Yeah, it wasn't the best scene ever, but it's not like it's the most horrible shot of The Simpsons since Season 10!

Thanks for playing. I said the SEASON where the screencap (Season 20) originated is overrated like Season 10.

[hughes]

I was referring to supmandude's point with the screencap itself, not your post

[supmandude]

I was referring to supmandude's point with the screencap itself, not your post

No, I was just saying the show killed itself. I didn't hate that scene that much.

[Granto]

That was a pretty epic first post

[Inamon]

Good:
Mayored to the Mob
Wild Barts Can't Be Broken

Bad:
The rest

Awful season.

[Ben Chan]

since when did people regard maximum homerdrive as a good episode?