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  • 5/5 Gurgle Gurgle the Octopus

    4 21.05%
  • 4/5 Sir Reginald Featherbottom the Third

    10 52.63%
  • 3/5 Obadiah the Donkey

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  • 2/5 Hosea the Cat

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    Rate/Review King of the Hill: "Manger Baby Einstein"

    Luanne's Manger Babies act takes off when John Redcorn books her to entertain babies, but the fickle world of entertainment soon has her grasping for straws. Rate/review here!
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    4/5 As the series winds down, another element of the show gets put to rest.
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    I actually felt a little upset about the fates of the various Manger Babies! I guess it might have been because I was linking it to the metaphor of the show winding down...but I'm happy Gurgle Gurgle ended up making it out alright. That was sort of in the back of my mind throughout the second half of the show.

    I enjoyed seeing Luanne's story this week. Her letting showbiz go to her head felt a little trite and overdone, but thankfully it wasn't a major element of the episode at all. Dale's absurd children's novel gave me a big laugh--I always enjoy when King of the Hill takes on fantasy elements or uses a different animation style. Dale taking the Babies ransom and then "killing" them was an amusing (and slightly dark) scene that was well in-character for him.

    I didn't like Hank that much tonight. The show seemed to be getting behind his negative attitude towards Luanne, although I did like his final conversation with her and his reaction to Dale's story ("...Why?").

    Another very solid showing all-around, and another small bit of closure. The ending with Luanne, Gracie, and Gurgle Gurgle was satisfying and cute.

    4/5, a pretty high B+

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    RIP - Manger Babies

    This is why I never liked Dale that much, and I kept hoping they wouldn't make a side story out of this. Even if Luanne stole his story, why DID he want in on Luanne's enterprise in the first place? Because the alley guys had little relevance in the main story, they simply HAD to squeeze in the crazy one anyway?

    Must be some slow days in the extermination business, what with the economy and shit.

    The part about Luanne getting overly concerned about fame was alright, though somewhat predictable. I couldn't really feel the concept of her spending less time with Gracie, or not being able to work around her family schedule.

    Unless we're just talking about small markets, I had to put into question the fickleness of the toddler entertainment business. PBS and Nick Jr. are just a few examples of how, despite the periodic retooling, toddler shows can have lasting power.

    Nice to see the Manger Babies again...if only for the final time.

    3.0/5

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    Poor manger babies, at least one survived, and thank god it wasn't Sir Reginald Featherbottom the Third...
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    John Redcorn's a talent agent now? Wow. I guessed I've missed a lot...

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    4/5

    enjoyable episode

    I actually lol'd @ "Bangers n' mash"


    and i actually felt bad for gurgle gurgle when she threw it away

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    It's a little sad. It feels like Luanne's swan song episode. Even if she'll always be a little kooky (since at least gurgle gurgle "survived", for all times sakes.) she's basically finally grown up by the end. Really starting to feel the lights dimming on the show now.

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    Great episode. Lucky and Gracie, Dale, Redcorn and Hank were all funny, and it was great seeing the Manger Babies again. Worried the story was going to be solely about Luanne getting famous and a big ego, but thankfully it wasn't.

    5/5

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    Only a couple chuckles.

    Story was good, but not great.

    More character driven humor would have been nice.

    I had high hopes with Dales gun story..but, it was pretty stupid.

    Not like the episode was terrible, but surely forgettable.

    Hard to watch the newer ep's after watching a classic like "Ho Yeah!" on AS the day before. There you have an excellent story filled with laughs.
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    You know, I just love the fact that there's a show out there that can make me gape in horror and feel great shock and sadness over the destruction of hand puppets.

    Loved it. During my rewatch I was just thinking about how far Luanne's character has really come - back in the earlier seasons I never would have expected her to become a mother or anything like that - but I really loved her growth throughout this episode, and throughout the series as a whole. And Gracie is really adorable.

    Dale's gun story gave me the biggest laugh of the night last night - fantastic.

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    I agree with a lot of what's being said here. They certainly did a good job making me care about the fate of the hand puppets. It even got a little eerie when Luanne was tossing away the octopus. When the donkey got pushed up against the glass of the laundry machine and exploded in tufts of cotton, it was actually a little horrifying too, haha.

    Dale's gun story was funny, but yeah, it did kind of come out of nowhere. But then again, Dale is the type of character to have lots of pent up "childhood dreams" like that.

    Luanne becoming an egotistical starlet was predictable, as mentioned, but yeah, thankfully it didn't last long. Unfortunately, the whole "too busy for her family, eventually learning that she needs to be a mom first" overall arc of the episode was predictable from act 1, making the episode less engaging across the board.

    Redcorn becoming a children's entertainer has always been one permanent change that I have never, ever enjoyed. "Redcorn Gambles With his Future" is one of my least favorite episodes of the last few years, and I've always found any of his scenes where he's entertaining kids feel awkward. I've always enjoyed his womanizer/healer persona far more across the board. I'm not quite sure what to make of Luanne's fall from success either. How long was she famous for? It wasn't clear. It seemed like a matter of weeks within the realm of the plot, but I seriously don't think the kids market is THAT fickle. Barney, Dora, Sesame Street, The Wiggles, and many other famous toddler entertainers had multi-year or still-ongoing stints of fame. How famous was Luanne anyway?

    The end of the show did loom over this episode quite a bit. "Meet the Manger Babies" is an old classic, in my eyes, and it was hard not to think of that episode almost constantly during this one. This made me a) feel old, since I remember that episode's first airing pretty well (I think it originally aired after "The Joy of Sect"'s first airing), and b) it made me realize how long the show has been around and how many themes and old loose ends they've been tying up lately.

    Those final 6 episodes potentially airing next season still have some stuff I want to see wrapped up. I think Bobby and Connie definitely need some kind of final moment together, since their relationship was such an important part of the first half of the series. Bobby himself definitely needs a final episode devoted to him and his future in some way too.

    By the way, does Hank still work at Strickland? Has anyone noticed that Strickland Propane and Buck himself have not been on the show since "What Happens at the National Propane Convention..."? That episode ended with him riding off with his son, so could that have been the end of Buck? They did do a pretty good job tying up Buck and Hank's relationship in that episode, but I dunno.
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    This season has definitely been the most significant in... maybe ever. That is, referring to this production season (HD). Here's what's been advanced/wrapped up this HD season, storywise and thematically:

    - Luanne and Lucky have their baby, Gracie
    - Buck reunites with his son, and finally gives Hank his long overdue respect and gets him equal recognition, wrapping up the series-long trend of Hank covering for Buck's mishaps and not getting the credit.
    - Hank and the gang get revenge for their high school football loss (brought up multiple times throughout the series)
    - Nancy and Dale's relationship is explored and given solidified meaning for why they're together.
    - We now know Bobby is aware of Cotton's death, and Didi is in a new relationship.
    - Hank finally gives Bobby some encouragement for doing what he's best at (comedy), and not sports.
    - Luanne matures and learns to think for herself and not rely on others. She decides on her own birthing method against all the push from Peggy and Lucky's sister, and goes the distance with the Manger Babies, showing she can be successful. Ultimately she learns about what it is to be a mom first though.

    In the final 7 episodes, I'd like to see Bill find some meaning in his life, something for the Supanusenphones (sp?), maybe something for Boomhauer (we really don't know much about him, do we?), and maybe something involving Ladybird (considering her age, I think her death would make for a strong emotional episode).

    I hope the last episode of the series works well as a send-off for the whole show.

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    I'm actually very interested to see if they do something with Boomhauer.

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    I liked it, thought there were some very funny parts like Dale's story and Lucky taking care of the baby. It got a little boring at certain parts, but overall was pretty decent and I loved the ending. It really wrapped up nicley. Overall high 3/5
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    Maybe find out Boomhauer's first name?

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    I think the most we've seen of Boomhauer was in the episode with his brother and the surfing one...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tomacco View Post
    This season has definitely been the most significant in... maybe ever.

    In the final 7 episodes, I'd like to see Bill find some meaning in his life, something for the Supanusenphones (sp?), maybe something for Boomhauer (we really don't know much about him, do we?), and maybe something involving Ladybird (considering her age, I think her death would make for a strong emotional episode).

    I hope the last episode of the series works well as a send-off for the whole show.
    I don't know any other shows that have ended so strong. As for the wrap-ups of the other characters. My guess is that it will happen, by the name of the upcoming episodes.

    Bill - "Bill Gathers Moss" Maybe somehow Principal Moss helps Bill.
    Kahn's family - "Just Another Manic Kahn-Day"
    Boomhauer - "Uh-oh, Canada" Might be about him. He house swaps with a family. Maybe he's Canadian?
    Ladybird - I would hope they end it on a high note and not sad.

    I read in an interview somewhere that they aren't going to treat the last episode as the end. So even though we feel as if they are tying up loose ends, they may not end it with anything special. Which maybe is their way of giving it a chance for resurrection.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Shutton View Post
    Maybe find out Boomhauer's first name?
    His first name is Jeff.... I don't remember where I heard this, whether it was on the show or not, but I'm pretty sure it's known somehow. Pretty sure it wasn't on the show.

    I would indeed like to know how Boomhauer makes a living though. It's pretty insane that his occupation has never been revealed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tomacco View Post
    This season has definitely been the most significant in... maybe ever. That is, referring to this production season (HD). Here's what's been advanced/wrapped up this HD season, storywise and thematically:

    - Luanne and Lucky have their baby, Gracie
    - Buck reunites with his son, and finally gives Hank his long overdue respect and gets him equal recognition, wrapping up the series-long trend of Hank covering for Buck's mishaps and not getting the credit.
    - Hank and the gang get revenge for their high school football loss (brought up multiple times throughout the series)
    - Nancy and Dale's relationship is explored and given solidified meaning for why they're together.
    - We now know Bobby is aware of Cotton's death, and Didi is in a new relationship.
    - Hank finally gives Bobby some encouragement for doing what he's best at (comedy), and not sports.
    - Luanne matures and learns to think for herself and not rely on others. She decides on her own birthing method against all the push from Peggy and Lucky's sister, and goes the distance with the Manger Babies, showing she can be successful. Ultimately she learns about what it is to be a mom first though.

    In the final 7 episodes, I'd like to see Bill find some meaning in his life, something for the Supanusenphones (sp?), maybe something for Boomhauer (we really don't know much about him, do we?), and maybe something involving Ladybird (considering her age, I think her death would make for a strong emotional episode).

    I hope the last episode of the series works well as a send-off for the whole show.
    good post. it's really nice how they're giving closure to a lot of characters we've come to love over the last decade. season has been wonderful.

    i don't think i could handle a ladybird death episode though

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tomacco View Post
    His first name is Jeff.... I don't remember where I heard this, whether it was on the show or not, but I'm pretty sure it's known somehow. Pretty sure it wasn't on the show.

    I would indeed like to know how Boomhauer makes a living though. It's pretty insane that his occupation has never been revealed.
    I think early on he said he was getting workers comp - but later has mentioned having a job.

    I agree that the show has had a feeling of finality to it recently (tying up loose ends, etc..) I just don't find it very authentic. I have trouble caring about the characters still.

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    I may be curious to see if they do something with Boomhauer, but I kinda hope they still keep him vague. I feel like it just wouldn't be right if they said too much about him.

    Maybe a little bit...but no overblown backstory episode or something.

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    wait, hasn't the final episode been completed for a while now? to sirloin with love or something like that? i swear i read an article wherein judge said there was nothing especially "series finale" about it because they thought they might get picked up by abc, but it did involve a nice hank/bobby bonding theme. presumably over grilling

    edit: all the episodes of the hd run have been great. show feels like it has energy again, which i felt started slipping away in season 7
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    Quote Originally Posted by caribou View Post
    wait, hasn't the final episode been completed for a while now? to sirloin with love or something like that? i swear i read an article wherein judge said there was nothing especially "series finale" about it because they thought they might get picked up by abc, but it did involve a nice hank/bobby bonding theme. presumably over grilling
    Yep..Thats exactly what I heard.

    You can tell they cranked out all of these episodes from season 12+ super fast IMO.

    So I don't know if there simply going to retool some of those episodes, or they scrapped them and started over. My guess is they're just slightly retooled.
    So, my expectations for the final outcome aren't very high.

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