Peggy and Bobby strive to impress a trendy young mom and her daughter, while Hank eats at an overcrowded deli. Rate/review here.
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Another series closing classic! Very good!
I'm I liking these more now that I know that there wont be that many more?
After Peggy finds out that she is not cool she befriends one of Arlen's most glamourous and cool moms in an effort to learn how to be cool.
I loved it! Not the most elaborate or unique story..but I found myself interested throughout. Good jokes, good pacing, good characterizations, good feel all around. Really really enjoyed it.
I also really liked the Michael Savage reference. I can't imagine they came up with that name by accident. Michael Savage is a very popular conservative radio host (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Savage_Nation). Not sure if they were portraying him as a little girl? - Or maybe just wanted to work his name into an episode some how. My guess would be the latter, considering the very conservative tone the show has taken over the last 2 years.
Either way, it got me curious.
"Socialism is inseparably interwoven with totalitarianism and the object worship of the state. It will prescribe for every one where they are to work, what they are to work at, where they may go and what they may say. Socialism is an attack on the right to breathe freely. No socialist system can be established without a political police. They would have to fall back on some form of Gestapo, no doubt very humanely directed in the first instance."
Eh. Crap. You beat me to the poll by a few mins. Maybe a mod can merge the 2.
Last edited by Swartzweldian; 03-16-2009 at 07:02 AM.
it was ok. 3/5
Nice thread,.. but I already voted in the impostor thread
I dunno, I liked it but it seemed really underdeveloped in a lot of parts. The "trendy" mom was a fun character, and I liked that they explained why she liked Peggy in a realistic way, and the twist that she was tired of being "cool" was neat.
Hank's subplot was pretty fun as well, but again, underdeveloped. Dale and Bill had the best moments in the episode.
The Michael Savage reference, unintentional or not, made me laugh because the real Michael Savage is indeed a whiny little girl.
pretty good episode for the most part, some stuff felt flat
3.5/5, rounded up to 4
Pretty solid episode, but that's what King of the Hill is good at producing. I found the subplot much funnier than the main one, and it's making me think, I'm really going to miss Hank as a character when this show ends.
The main plot had a pretty great ending in and of itself, but yeah, most of the value for me was in the subplot.
Oh, and did anyone else notice that the Michael Savage character looked just like the daughter on The Good Family?
Not exactly, but I liked the design. It'll be neat to see those characters animated.
Last edited by Swartzweldian; 03-16-2009 at 06:59 AM.
Yeah, I liked the design of Michael too. I actually laughed out loud when Kat mentioned her daughter's name was Michael--it's such a trendy type of name to give a girl. She had a cute design too, I was kind of disappointed that she won't be returning (although at this point in the show's run, I guess it doesn't make much of a difference... ).
I enjoyed this episode, but the second half felt a bit weaker to me. The whole "being someone they're not" angle has been covered countless times by other shows (mostly animated shows), wrapped up in a whole "being yourself" theme, so I was kind of disappointed to see it go in that direction. And it seemed like a character stretch for Peggy to be roped into dressing and behaving so oddly.
On the plus side, there were still enough moments and jokes that worked well, and Hank's subplot was pretty fun (and very much in his character). A pretty good show overall, but not up to the level of quality of the past three, in my opinion.
I sorta figured it wouldn't get the highest ratings here. The story wasn't anything brilliant..but I really loved the whole feel of the episode. A solid A and B story with good characterizations and laughs.
Peggy was in pretty good character IMO. Her behavior was very similar to the episode "Ho Yeah!" where she dressed like a prostitute. - Or "Get Your Freak Off" where Peggy is eager to emulate the cool parents.
As far as Michael Savage...It might have been something a writer or producer snuck in and the rest of the staff didn't really notice? I would wager that the exec producers are fans of the radio show.
It's rediculous how serious people take everything he says. Theres alot of thick sarcastic dark humor on the show. Very politically incorrect. Definitely isn't for everyone..
Last edited by Swartzweldian; 03-16-2009 at 12:46 PM.
If by "dark humor", you mean retarded crying and blatent racism, then yes, there's a lot of it.
I'm sorry but I do not believe someone's skin color makes them so inept that they need the government to intervene and rescue them with affirmitive action. Believing that somone needs extra help because of their skin color is true racism.
I certainly don't agree with everything Michael Savage says. Hes a shock jock. You don't get it, most mainstream people do not "get it". Most people have been conditioned to only hear extremely politically correct rhetoric.
Conservative ideals are very much inline with many, many KOTH themes. At the same time many belive that KOTH simply mocks rednecks and conservative ideals (ala Colbert), this is not the case (as stated by Judge).
The more I think about it..It probably is most likely they were taking a jab at Michael Savage. The blogger here seems to think so:
Interesting nonetheless. Too bad we'll probably never get commentary with any of the episodes. I'm sure that would clear it up.
Last edited by Swartzweldian; 03-16-2009 at 10:05 AM.
The episode was a little reminiscent of "Lady and Gentrification"'s theme but that was no worry, it was still a very solid episode. Bobby and Peggy teaming up to become hip made it better than it could have otherwise been. Their attire upon arrival at the party will forever be a memorable scene. Hank's b-story was a bit weak, but it definitely had KOTH's small-town charm to it. His hatred towards the restaurant's atmosphere was pretty funny, especially when he shows up with giant headphones on and tells Bobby and Peggy they're the ones acting crazy. There were a number of really funny moments in the episode overall, like Michael running up her "treehouse", Bill allowing the old woman to sit at their table, Peggy wondering why she lost touch 13 years ago, etc.
Every week I get sadder that KOTH is ending. The last couple seasons have been consistently good, and after 13 years, it still feels fresh to me, almost like a re-birth. The show definitely feels relevant with the times. I'm pretty surprised more people aren't tuning in.
I'd say the name similarity was definitely intentional--although in my opinion, the show didn't really portray Michael in a particularly BAD light (except a bit at her party). Obviously the character and her mother had flaws, but it wasn't really a nonstop annoying person like "Twig Boy," for instance.
Let's save the political debating for another thread though, guys.
EDIT: Agreed, Tomacco. I thought this season started off pretty light, but once the HD intro came along, it's been consistently quality. I'm really going to miss KotH, so I hope The Goode Family has a little bit of that spirit in it as well. In an age of Simpsons and Family Guy often going for easy blanket targets, KotH is--in some ways--one of the gutsiest shows on television.
Well, maybe not more than South Park, who has made fun of EVERYONE at some point or another.
I noticed nobody made an R&R thread for Family Guy this week. So, does everyone agree the episode was so terrible it doesn't deserve one?
This King of the Hill episode had very little in the way of comedy, but was still highly enjoyable. Hank didn't have much involvement in the main story, which gave an excellent opportunity for Peggy and Bobby to solve their own problems.
And thankfully, the side story didn't detract from the whole episode. (That place Hank kept lunching at reminds me of the Cracker Barrel.)
I did get a laugh out of Michael's treehouse elevator.
Pretty good episode. As funny as it was though, watching Peggy and Bobby approach the party in those clothes was the tiniest bit painful too. Thinking people inside would be dressed like that (having met them where they did) was stupid even by Peggy's standards.
I loved how Bobby and Peggy bonded throughout the episode. And Hank's subplot was just a series of increasingly amusing gags. Very good epiosde.
the last 3 or 4 eps of koth have been classic. man i'm going to miss this show so much.
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