Rate/Review: Wall-E

[joe]

shut up

Suck my cock.

Yeah don't really see what is so horrible about that article. Either way, should probably just, uh, watch the movie or something.

I am sure it is a fine movie. But, I plan on having kids at some point in the next 10 years which will ultimately lead to the viewing of all of these fine pixar films about 20 times a day. No need to rush out and see them now, IMO. The only one I have seen was A Shark's Tale while I was on a flight to Cali. I thought it was terrible, but I am told it is the worst out of all of them.

oh dear god it's a universally-praised g-rated animated movie i haven't even seen, i must project my anger against any article stating it could win that award they gave to crash a couple years ago

The animation fanboy in me thanks you for your prejudice by starting an argument I can't possibly win. But what the hell.

FAR from universally praised. Nice try though. Did your Uncle make the film or something? You seem to be taking this rather hard.

[Dark Homer]

FAR from universally praised. Nice try though. Did your Uncle make the film or something? You seem to be taking this rather hard.

it's got like 97% on rottentomatoes

[joe]

it's got like 97% on rottentomatoes

Exactly. Thank you. I am happy someone in this thread knows what 'universal' means.

Additionally, I know at least 6 people who saw it and said it was garbage or at best mediocre.

[Dark Homer]

my point was that being 3 percentage points away from a perfect score isn't "FAR" from universal praise

[joe]

Rotten Tomatoes hardly represents universality. I know a lot of people love Hancock, but RT has it at 35%.

Top 1000 IMDB uses have Wall-E at a 7.2

[RJF]

I am sure it is a fine movie. But, I plan on having kids at some point in the next 10 years which will ultimately lead to the viewing of all of these fine pixar films about 20 times a day. No need to rush out and see them now, IMO. The only one I have seen was A Shark's Tale while I was on a flight to Cali. I thought it was terrible, but I am told it is the worst out of all of them.

Umm...Shark's tale isn't a pixar movie.

[Dark Homer]

Rotten Tomatoes hardly represents universality. I know a lot of people love Hancock, but RT has it at 35%.

Top 1000 IMDB uses have Wall-E at a 7.2

let's be honest, the opinion of the average moviegoer doesn't matter when it comes to awardz season, which is what I think that dude was trying (but failing) to get at

[joe]

let's be honest, the opinion of the average moviegoer doesn't matter when it comes to awardz season, which is what I think that dude was trying (but failing) to get at

Yes.

[Ryan]

Lawnboy, listen here:

I couldn't respect when DNS kept bashing The Simpsons Movie until he finally saw it (and unsurprisingly hated it). It's the same thing in this situation. Until you see it, your opinion is not valid...

[StarskyMaxwell]

Well, to be fair, he has seen Shark Tale.

[joe]

Lawnboy, listen here:

I couldn't respect when DNS kept bashing The Simpsons Movie until he finally saw it (and unsurprisingly hated it). It's the same thing in this situation. Until you see it, your opinion is not valid...

Where the FUCK did I bash this movie or say that it was bad? I haven't given an opinion on it... you know why? It's because I haven't seen the fucking movie. I even said that I am sure it is a 'fine' movie.

I commented on the hysteria surrounding it. Specifically in regards to an award show that set up a specific category seven years ago to address the problem of animated features in relation to the Best Picture category.

This thread has so far proven my point.

[StarskyMaxwell]

A category which, by the way, is idiotic enough to represent a medium in a desperate attempt to shut Kricfalusi followers up. I get the point you're trying to prove, but it just comes off as ignorant towards said medium. I just don't see how a random news column regarding Best Picture nomination speculations on a well-reviewed animated film is more offensive than, hell, half of the actual Best Picture nominations.

[joe]

"Best Picture" represents a medium as well. Would you be fine with non-animated films winning "Best Animated Feature"?

And I apologize, but I don't have time to explore your last statement which represents an Ignoratio elenchi. Though, I will say that "yes, I do find a lot of Best Picture nominations offensive".

[Fox Executive]

4/5

[StarskyMaxwell]

Shut up, Fox Executive.

The animation fanboy in me thanks you for your prejudice by starting an argument I can't possibly win.

And there you have it. Still, let's give it a go.

No. I wouldn't. I wouldn't be fine with WALL·E winning Best Picture either as long as Best Animated Picture exists. But it fucking shouldn't. It's completely ridiculous to consider things to be getting out of hand because one random internet article resorted to the movie's praise to state animation should be considered for Best Picture, which is a completely valid opinion I wholeheartedly agree with.

Also Andrew Stanton is my uncle.

[joe]

Shut up, Fox Executive.


And there you have it. Still, let's give it a go.

No. I wouldn't. I wouldn't be fine with WALL·E winning Best Picture either as long as Best Animated Picture exists. But it fucking shouldn't. It's completely ridiculous to consider things to be getting out of hand because one random internet article resorted to the movie's praise to state animation should be considered for Best Picture, which is a completely valid opinion I wholeheartedly agree with.

Also Andrew Stanton is my uncle.

You are arguing two completely different things. And apparently you agree with me since the Best Animated Feature category does exist.

And no, this isn't only based on one article in one of the US's most circulated magazine. I am hearing this everywhere. And TIME is hardly "random". Irrelevant maybe, but not random.

[Ryan]

"Best Picture" represents a medium as well. Would you be fine with non-animated films winning "Best Animated Feature"?

No, but where in the rules does it say Best Picture has to be live-action? Nowhere. And you are technically judging that the movie isn't good enough to win (or even be nominated) for best picture, yet you haven't even seen it yet. Listen, it happened to Ratatouille last year, and it didn't get best picture. You want my opinion? It's not gonna happen, I agree with you. It would be great, but not so great since it might not win anything. I'd rather it win an Oscar then be nominated, lose, and let freaking Kung Fu Panda walk away with one...

[Dark Homer]

it sucks that the animation category seems to have been created so that cartoons have to sit at the kids table at thanksgiving, but its not really all that different from the "best foreign film" category. plenty of foreign films have won best picture, so it's not like it's impossible - although it is highly unlikely - for a film that happens to be animated to be in the best picture category, so whatevs

Shut up, Fox Executive.

cool it

[kimpantaloons]

all hail the power of the blue font

[joe]

No, but where in the rules does it say Best Picture has to be live-action? Nowhere.

You're right. There is nothing specifically in the rules that outlines the Best Picture nomination as live-action. Unofficially, you know as well as I that they wouldn't have set a Best Animated Film category if they didn't intend for Best Picture to be for live action films.

I personally think the rules should be more specific. I would be pissed if an animated film won Best Picture year after year. If anything, Best Foreign Film should be eliminated before Best Animated Feature.

And you are technically judging that the movie isn't good enough to win (or even be nominated) for best picture, yet you haven't even seen it yet.

Yeah.. you want to believe this badly, don't you? Sorry. Nowhere did I say it was bad. Nowhere did I say it wasn't going to win or didn't deserve to win within the category dictated to films of its kind. I would be having the same issue if someone wanted to nominate Mongol for Best Foreign Film and Best Picture out of overzealous hysteria.

I don't comment on the quality of films I have not seen. Sorry that this is such a difficult concept for you.

[Dark Homer]

separate but equal

[joe]

separate but equal

Wall-E v. Ferguson

[Ryan]

You're right. There is nothing specifically in the rules that outlines the Best Picture nomination as live-action. Unofficially, you know as well as I that they wouldn't have set a Best Animated Film category if they didn't intend for Best Picture to be for live action films.

I personally think the rules should be more specific. I would be pissed if an animated film won Best Picture year after year. If anything, Best Foreign Film should be eliminated before Best Animated Feature.


Yeah.. you want to believe this badly, don't you? Sorry. Nowhere did I say it was bad. Nowhere did I say it wasn't going to win or didn't deserve to win within the category dictated to films of its kind. I would be having the same issue if someone wanted to nominate Mongol for Best Foreign Film and Best Picture out of overzealous hysteria.

I don't comment on the quality of films I have not seen. Sorry that this is such a difficult concept for you.

Okay, so there is hysteria for a movie to get nominated. It happens every year, it even happened to Ratatouille last year. What's so bad about it, and what's the worst outcome? It gets nominated?!...

[joe]

Okay, so there is hysteria for a movie to get nominated. It happens every year, it even happened to Ratatouille last year. What's so bad about it, and what's the worst outcome? It gets nominated?!...

haha... now you are intentionally skewing the argument to something I never claimed.

I never said that this didn't deserve to get nominated (In Best Animated Feature). Nowhere. Not Once.

[Ryan]

haha... now you are intentionally skewing the argument to something I never claimed.

I never said that this didn't deserve to get nominated (In Best Animated Feature). Nowhere. Not Once.

I know that. You're pissed at the media frenzy surrounding it, right? So I'm asking: what's the worst that's gonna happen? This is just not that big of a deal...

[joe]

I know that. You're pissed at the media frenzy surrounding it, right? So I'm asking: what's the worst that's gonna happen? This is just not that big of a deal...

OK, so you're going to try this angle now. ok...

This is a discussion board. 'Discussion' is the operative word. I brought a reputable article to the relevant thread to comment about the hysteria surrounding this movie that the thread is about. Nothing more; nothing less. I found the article about these overzealous people to be interesting. Many people, regardless of the Academy having an animated category, want this to at least be nominated for Best Picture:

Cries that WALL-E should be considered for a Best Picture nod began as soon as the film hit theaters on June 27. Writers at New York magazine and sites like The Movie Blog and Obsessed With Film declared WALL-E worthy of a Best Picture, and high-profile movie critics are discussing the little robot's odds for that award among themselves.

I think this is ridiculous considering the categories. THAT was my only point. People need to calm the fuck down. It is not a slam on the movie at all. I have not seen the movie. It is a slam on a contingent of people who have seen the film and are effectively foaming at the mouth for something that makes no sense.

[Ryan]

Okay, here's your original post:

I haven't seen this movie and won't for many years.. but I am already getting sick of it and think this shit is getting out of hand...

http://www.time.com/time/arts/articl...820824,00.html

Calm the fuck down, people.

At first, it would seem like you were slamming a movie you haven't seen and wanting to slap people in their faces for going ga-ga over it. You've refined your point since, yes, but you can see where we got the wrong impression from...

...and besides, discussing films and awards they might receive are their LIVES, so it's not shocking that they are discussing it...

[Disgruntled Goat]

Saw it a week ago in the US. Loved it, I'll definitely go and see it again when it's out here in the UK next week.

Lack of dialogue was really great, and quite a brave decision. I guess there's enough of the slapstick stuff to keep the kids happy. I was actually apprehensive before seeing it, because I hated the first trailer (thought it looked really boring, I guess because virtually none of the plot of the film was hinted at). But I was spectacularly proved wrong.

Probably second best Pixar, after the Incredibles. Followed by Toy Story. I need to watch Monster's Inc and Cars again to rate the rest (especially Cars since I just drove Route 66).

[joe]

Being sick of a movie is not 'slamming' it.

At first, it would seem like you were slamming a movie.....You've refined your point since

Then why have you continued arguing?

Regardless of your answer, there was no point to refine. I still stick by the first post.

[Ryan]

Then why have you continued arguing?

Because you're wigging out at us for throwing stuff at you, as if you didn't know why, but I think many people took your post as very condescending towards WALL-E, whether or not that was your original intention...