Good episode, not a classic by any means but still a good episode.
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Good episode, not a classic by any means but still a good episode.
Kids, let me tell you about another so-called ``wicked'' guy. He had long hair and some wild ideas. He didn't always do what other people thought was right. And that man's name was...
I forget. But the point is... I forget that, too. Marge, you know what I'm talking about. He used to drive that blue car?
-- Homer's parable of the guy in the blue car, ``Homer the Heretic''
Ralph: I Won! I Won!
Principal Skinner: No Ralph this means you're failing English
Ralph: Me fail English? That's unpossible.
Good episode providing a nice look at how Bart doesn't hate the Flanders and is a nice kid overall. The scene with Lisa teaching Bart was great and followed both their characters well. And jerkass Homer helped the plot but I would have hoped it had ended with Homer being nice to Flanders like in When Flanders failed other than him remaining a jerk. A-
Pretty much a flawless episode. One of the few episodes to show what a truly great, multi-faceted character Flanders is.
As I've mentioned before, Flanders can get a bit one-note at times (especially during the post-classic era), but this one showed that he could be a painstakingly kind-hearted person while still being a normal guy who has the ability to enjoy beer, like sports, raise a normal, healthy kid, feel anger, not be immune to the natural human tendency to compete, can dress up in drag without freaking out, et cetera. It is definitely Flanders at his best, which isn't surprising, since season 2 produced the best characterizations of every single character, in my opinion.
It also features great Bart and Lisa characterizations, and while Homer was a jerkass, it worked well for the episode. The pacing was perfect, the conflict captivating, the good jokes abundant, and the ending superbly showing that those who are happy with themselves always truly win. A+
It's a good episode, though not one of my favorites. I also commend Flander's characterization in this episode; it's probably the most human's he ever been. Though, I think some of the charm of his character is that Ned is kinda "one-note" at first glance, Ned's an almost eternally happy guy that it's unhealthy and seems like he's not even human at times, which presents us with the flaw of his character, and like Homer said in "Hurricane Neddy", he seems to be afraid of being human. But I digress.
Bart and Lisa were in top form, the pacing was good...the ending was sweet too.
Last edited by Chou; 02-11-2008 at 08:33 AM.
"Alright, alright, if it will make you happy, I'll overthrow society."
It gets boring in the beginning, and then the expirence really starts to shine.
the best flanders episode ever, and one of the best of the whole series. A+
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Bart: Lis, I don't get it...Why does Milhouse's happiness make me sad?
Lisa: Bart, you're worried you're losing Milhouse, and love is a selfish thing!
Bart: Shut up! I don't love Milhouse!
Lisa: Oh, really? The more you deny it, the more I know it's true!
Bart: Oh, yeah? Well, whenever you're mean, I'm a trampoline. So everything you said goes back and hits your ugly head.
Lisa: God, that was lame. Where did you get that?
Bart: From Milhouse! Oh, I love him so much!
--"Little Orphan Millie"
Characterization wise in the beginning of the show, it is pretty flawless and the plot is great in terms of how Homer's hatred and rivarly towards Flanders is great, and there were some good scenes involving the philosophy. But I hate it when people look at this episode just in that dimension; humor IS a part of the episode and it should be counted when you are judging a whole episode and it is one of the reason why it doesn't really deserve a high grade like A+. It was rather boring than memorable-moment-filled episodes in Season 2 such as 'Brush With Greatness' or 'Blood Feud'.
I'd give it B+/A-. I loved the ending, so I'm inclining bit towards A-
^have you ever thought that maybe the people who gave it an a+ actually find it funny? cuz i sure as hell find it funny.
Uhhhhh not really. I watched it three times since last October and I didn't find it funny. One thing I remember is when Bart balances on one leg with a golf club on his hand
But it really depends how you view the episode, I guess
i really liked flanders in this episode,and there where some funny moments aspecially the ending.but it still wasn't the best of season 2 so i give it a B+
Perfect example of Season Two's superior characterization. Awesome episode.
Bart vs. Thanksgiving
This is a great episode. Bart and Lisa's fight is believable and their reconciliation towards the end is pretty good, too. This episode offers a rare look at Marge's mom. The extended family does a good job as well. This is how a holiday episode should be done.
it's a good episode, no doubt about that, but never really liked it so much.
The story is quite believable, but i like stories with humor a way more.
Anyway, this episode has a good characterization of Lisa and Bart's relationship imo.
Another good Bart episode that keeps him in good character. A sweet moment at the end on the roof with Bart and Lisa but nothing special and weaker then most other season 2 episodes. B-
Far from perfect, but aside from it's obvious flaws, I really enjoy the tone of this one.
This might be my least favorite season 2 episode because Bart seemed slightly out of character and the episode wasn't very funny or anything very special, but it's still a decent episode with a few memorable moments. B
(I think it says a lot for season 2 that the worst episode in the season still earns a B.)
A good episode that really showed Bart's rebellious side and how that went against his family at times.
eh, this was an ok episode. nothing special, but not bad either. bart was a little too unreasonably malicious though. b-
Amazing episode - great emotion, solid humor, and some of the best character of that season. A-
bart was a bit too rebellious even for his standards but apart from that it is a great episode - b+
I really like this episode. The tone is pretty down-trodden and I don't think Bart is out of character here. It's actually a nice study of his relationship with Lisa, and while Bart's actions are mean, I don't think he was being unreasnoble. Well, maybe slightly, but Bart's a stubborn kid after all. And even so, he apologizes for his actions later on. Also, I like the scene where Lisa asks why he did it, it's just a really interesting moment between them and it's always been memorable to me.
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Bart the Daredevil
This episode is okay. The characterization isn't bad but I just never really liked this episode all that much. Homer falling down the gorge is a good gag, but pretty unrealistic, too. Yeah, it's a cartoon but still. The episode is more than watchable, but there's probably 200 better ones.
You read my mind, although the falling don gag wasn't really that funny the second time (the setup was great though).Originally Posted by catbox_9
watch out, you might get what you're after
i think it's at least a good episode.
Good characterization of Bart and Homer is really funny in this scene when he rides
on the skateboard down the mountain Don't know, but i like that scene.
One of the best the series has to offer.
Still got the entire script memorized from watching it so many times because of how great it is. You could say it's been overplayed, but no episode this great could be played too much, as long as it wasn't twice a day or some shit like that.
A classic. Bart is great in this episode and it is an enjoyable one. B+
A pretty good episode, but not one I usually feel like rewatching. Bart's conflict is interesting and his interaction with Homer is well-written, but this episode is just pretty forgettable to me. B+
I've always found this to be a bit over-rated, it had its great moments, but still I can think of a lot of better episodes than this.
One of my top 5 of Season 2. Now THIS is a great father-son relationship episode and the entire third act was a greatness. There were some memorable moments, characterization was great (especially Bart's curiousity), and the ending was one of the best... ever
calmer than you are
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