Season 17 Information

[Veryjammy]

Tortured by threatening calls from his family

This is the bit that sounds the worst to me. His family are going to make abusive phonecalls to him because Springfield didn't get a football stadium? I mean seriously....

Any bets on a life in danger climax between Abe and a bull?

[Nameless]

It might be that the episode ends with Abe becoming a bullfighter after failing to commit suicide, finding his new calling in life, and there's no climax with an enraged bull on steroids charging after Abe at all. The episode might at least be less of a mess then.

Of course, knowing it's Tim Long, it's unlikely.

His family making threatening calls to him sounds really unlikely to me, too.

[George Cauldron]

Who is 'Manfred Manslaughter'? Is he a character made up by the show (I'm presuming so)?

I'm thinking it's just a made-up character, but a play on words for Manfred Mann.


Anyway, the episode seems to have taken an odd turn in that description. I know everybody was expecting an emotional episode. I knew the current batch writers probably wouldn't be capable of sustaining an emotionally-charged episode of the kind, but the way that description has turned out is quite ridiculous really.

[Corkus]

Threatening calls? Assisted suicide? Grampa a matador? Not only do these sound seriously unfunny, but they sound incredibly out-of-character. Of course, you have to remember the lovely characterization job that Tim Long did with Marge in "She Used to Be My Girl" and "Brake My Wife Please", as well as Ned Flanders in "Hail Mary Pass".

This is the second episode after "Bart Has Two Mommies" that sounds very dreadful to me. It's a good thing we have several that sound good, as I have a feeling we'll be needing that buffer space.

[LeChimp]

What. The. Hell.

This sounds dreadful, and I don't say this too often.

[HellKat666]

Wow. That sounds horrible. I'm predicting an unfunny episode filled with bad characterizations and wacky situations involving Abe's career as a matador.

Of course, I could be completely wrong. But since it's a Tim Long episode, my expectations are pretty low.

[grissom]

Wow, that sounds horrendous. "Bart Has Two Mommies" and now this, what is this show coming to?

[garret]

Well this episode sounds absolutely awful, first of all Abe's family giving him threatening phone calls is very out of character, and I am pretty sure that Lisa will take part in this which is completely horribly out of character for her and would take this episode down even more for me. Second of all why does he have to become a matador? This could have been a good emotional episode, and they made him a freaking' matador, well I guess being written by Tim long explains a lot. And in "Homer Simpson this your wife" I have a feeling either Russi Taylor or Pamela Hayden will voice charlie's son.

[alt.nerd.obsessive]

Well this episode description sounds...interesting to say the least. I would have preferred Grampa to have become a boxer himself or train a kid to box ala the movie this episode's title apes rather than him become...a matador?

Since when did Abe show any kind of interest in being a matador and where does this odd career choice come from anyway?

I wait anxiously regarding this ep. Maybe by "phone calls from his family" it will probably be just Homer making the threats - it seems something that Homer would be capable of, maybe Bart even (prank calls to Abe, anyone?) but certainly not Marge/Lisa.


In response to the over-use of Tress' voice types, yes they are certainly used extensively but Tress does give a great performance. I don't know how she would handle a Brit accent though.
Maybe the child and wife will be American and only Charles will be British?

[Dances In Underwear]

Oh god no. If I hadn't already seen the Bart has two Mommies description I'd be thinking this would be the worst of the season.

Oh, and I hope everyone complains stops complaining about constant rehashing if the only new plots we are going to get involve something as ridiculous as stories about monkey hostages and old people fighting bulls. I'd take a million rehashes over crap like this.

[Mr. Kurns]

Driven to suicide by his own family over nothing more than a football stadium? Jesus fucking christ. Grampa becoming a matador? Holy hell. Put those two ideas together and we've got what could quite possibly end up being the Worst. Episode. Ever. Seriously what are they thinking?!? It all just seems so out of character...and I would definitely put my money on a life-in-danger bull climax.

And on the subject of rehashed ideas...even this isn't entirely fresh...failed suicide attempt gives someone a new outlook on life? Think back 3 years to Moe Baby Blues and then another 13 years all the way back to Homer's Odyssey. It's been done.

[picollo]

New Promocard
Bart Has Two Mommies

[garret]

so he gets in a confrontation with the baseball guy?

[GrandmaBird!!!]

I hope he kills another bird (he'll never live that down).

[Flimpson Tide]

I'm expecting a life-in-danger incident with a bull in the third act and lots of blood and gore in Million Dollar Abie.

[Corkus]

Heh, I like the promo card. Like I said before, I have a fairly strong feeling that the Ned sub-plot is going to save "Bart Has Two Mommies" from total disaster (Meaning it could still get a C-, which still ain't great). "Million Dollar Abie", on the other hand, does not look so fortunate as to have a quality sub-plot of any kind.

[Binky]

For a high resolution version of this:
http://www.springfieldpost.com/index.php?topic=85.0

[Simpsons Forever!]

I like that promo - nice and simple - and it doesn't point out the monkey plot, which must be a plus.

About Million Dollar Abie, I'm sure the threatening calls will come from Homer. Why would Lisa/Marge be upset about a football stadium?

[Snack Related Mishap]

Oh man, this makes me sad to read this description considering that this episode is airing on my birfday. Somehow, I have this errie feeling it might well just be one of the worst episodes ever. Had it been a character study about Grampa thinking about how maybe it was his time to go, and contemplating it, then it could have been good. That is still walking the line tho, and now they just mess it up by having Homer be a matador. This episode sounds terrible, and on my birthday too! God, I hate you. Why couldn't I have had Kiss, Kiss, Bang, Bangalore on my birthday instead?

[grissom]

I actually like that promo card, still don't have high hopes for the episode though

[Drunk Barney]

The episode sounds awful. It sounds an awful lot, to squeese in, in 20 minutes. And the material that's there sounds terrible as well.

[CMQ]

[Tomacco]

Hahah, you're all a bunch of jokers. Haven't any of you learned never to judge an episode before seeing it. "HOMR" should have been when this lesson should have been learned.

[Veryjammy]

About Million Dollar Abie, I'm sure the threatening calls will come from Homer. Why would Lisa/Marge be upset about a football stadium?

I don't doubt it's mostly Homer, but even so, is Homer going to actually threaten his Dad over it? Maybe the description of the episode is slightly OTT, but I can just see this coming across as incredibly mean. Sure, Grandpa is neglected by OFF, but they aren't deliberately malicious to him. If the calls aren't threatening enough then Grandpa's decision to commit suicide is going to seem just as unfounded as in the other 'suicide episodes' (Homer's Odyssey and Hello Gutter Hello Fadder) and yet if the calls are threatening enough then Homer is going to come off a total dick who drove his dad to suicide. There is so much that could go wrong in the episode that I just can't see the current staff pulling it off at all. And Tim Long's writing record speaks for itself.

[Drunk Barney]

Hahah, you're all a bunch of jokers. Haven't any of you learned never to judge an episode before seeing it. "HOMR" should have been when this lesson should have been learned.

HOMR is very mixed though, in the sense of the episode for me personally and the view of NHC. I bet if we started a poll where EVERYONE voted it would get an average of 3/5.

[Cartoonnetwork]

I don't doubt it's mostly Homer, but even so, is Homer going to actually threaten his Dad over it? Maybe the description of the episode is slightly OTT, but I can just see this coming across as incredibly mean. Sure, Grandpa is neglected by OFF, but they aren't deliberately malicious to him. If the calls aren't threatening enough then Grandpa's decision to commit suicide is going to seem just as unfounded as in the other 'suicide episodes' (Homer's Odyssey and Hello Gutter Hello Fadder) and yet if the calls are threatening enough then Homer is going to come off a total dick who drove his dad to suicide. There is so much that could go wrong in the episode that I just can't see the current staff pulling it off at all. And Tim Long's writing record speaks for itself.

Yeah, I have exactly the same opinion. Bart Has Two Mommies can still be decent even with a ridiculous premise, if it has at least funny gags but MDA seems to include too many serious, hard-to-develope points and the description of it sounds as awful as the worst Scully era episodes in fact.

My only hope is Tim Long's latest episodes have been decent funny outings and even the most flawed ones (like She used to be my girl) were still entertaining, instead of the crappy episodes he wrote during Scully era. However it's pretty difficult to do anything right with this description.

[Corkus]

Personally, I don't even think his Jean episodes have funny moments, save "Half-Decent Proposal", which was one of the biggest flukes in the history of the show. The only actual humorous moment I can recall from his most recent episodes is the Donkey Kong parody from "Hail Mary Pass", and even that couldn't save the episode.

Eh, to stray away from this negativity, let's talk about the positive potential of "This is Your Wife" once again.

[Drunk Barney]

Looking threw S17&18 then...

Season 17

The Seemingly Never Ending Story - Sounds very good, and intresting. Though it could go either way

Bart Has Two Mommies - Sounds good, but the ending looks dodgey.

Homer Simpson, This Is Your Wife - Written by RG, it should be funny, but the plot doesn't look as exciting as the humour.

Million Dollar Abie - Sounds terrible

Kiss Kiss, Bang Bangalore - From the small info we have it sounds very good. I have a feeling this will be written by J. Stewert Burns, which is a good thing!

Girls Just Want to Have Sums - Looks very good from the small info we have

Everything onwards in Season 17 - need info

Season 18

Jazzy and the Pussycats - Looks very good

Moe'n'a Lisa - Possibly the best sounding episode, from 17 and 18. Matt W is a good writer as well. But again, need more info!

Except the ending of Bart Has Two Mommies and the episode Million Dollar Abie, HAB is looking very good.

[Cartoonnetwork]

The only actual humorous moment I can recall from his most recent episodes is the Donkey Kong parody from "Hail Mary Pass", and even that couldn't save the episode.

Ugh, I actually forgot Homer and Ned's Hail Mary Pass. That was pretty dull.

[Mr. Kurns]

If the calls aren't threatening enough then Grandpa's decision to commit suicide is going to seem just as unfounded as in the other 'suicide episodes' (Homer's Odyssey and Hello Gutter Hello Fadder) and yet if the calls are threatening enough then Homer is going to come off a total dick who drove his dad to suicide.

Exactly...it just can't work. There's no way they can get around it... however it did say he was getting calls from 'friends' as well...so maybe Homer's call doesn't have to be too harsh, maybe it's other towsfolk calls, and the folks in the retirement home who make him feel really bad?? Then perhaps, it's the fact that he gets a call from Homer, the fact that he feels as though not even his family supports him, maybe that is just what tips the scales and drives him over the edge?? I dunno...I just don't know.