Season 17 Information

**Drunk Barney** · 03-05-2006, 12:34 PM

Quote from John Jay Smith

I" am not even going to attemp to read the previous 63 pages that came before this...."

If you look at the first page, it covers all the upcoming info and past links from these pages

**Flimpson Tide** · 03-05-2006, 02:10 PM

So, by the looks of it, we may have another line of episodes all airing in production order?

**George Cauldron** · 03-06-2006, 02:14 AM

No, not really. This season, HABF02 aired before HABF01. The closest we've had to a full season of episodes airing in production order starting with the first episode was season 6, 14 episodes with 2F01 to 2F14 running uninterrupted.

As for just episodes in consecutive order, there's 11 in Season 14, from EABF07 to EABF17, and 11 in season 4 from 9F05 to 9F15. Last year we had eight from GABF01 to GABF08, interrupted by GABF12.

So this season we've had episodes HABF03-HABF05 airing consecutively. And if HABF06, 7, 8 and 9 do too, then that's six. But there's still some way to go before FOX airs Simpsons episodes in the order they were produced. By the way, who decides the airing order? Do the show's makers get a say at all?

**coltonwiggum** · 03-06-2006, 05:40 AM

I think the producers get a say in it, but Fox decides. If I am wrong, someone please correct me!

**Robertuybrush** · 03-06-2006, 07:05 AM

I think Bill and Josh said in a Q&A that the order is decided by the showrunner/s.

EDIT: Yes, they said that: http://www.nohomers.net/showpost.php...0&postcount=15

**Flimpson Tide** · 03-06-2006, 01:56 PM

Yeah, I meant consecutive order more than production order when I look at it. The beginning of the HABF line didn't air in order but I mean from HABF03 on.

**coltonwiggum** · 03-07-2006, 02:50 PM

Wait, when does "Homer Simpsons this is your wife" air? I'm excited about that ep. I have a feeling there will be many laughs!

**garret** · 03-07-2006, 02:52 PM

march 26th

**alt.nerd.obsessive** · 03-08-2006, 06:13 PM

These new episode descriptions please me - the Gervais episode sounds better day by day (who will voice Charlie's son??) and TSNES seems like it will be an interesting and experimental show, to say the least.

I'm actually glad of the changing of method that the current Simpsons crew have embarked on - different styles of episode such as "Simpsons Christmas Stories" where the format used for THOH is applied to another holiday and the use of a guest writer in Gervais can only add to the diversity to the show.

If these episodes fail though people will complain that trying new things is lazy and that the current episodes are repetitive; if they succeed people will applaud these new dynamics and will undoubtedly compare them to episodes from Oakley and Weinstein's run.

I never expect any episode to be better than others and I never like to compare episodes any more - I take each as they come and judge them for their individual merits. Season 17 (so far) has been pretty solid with only a few minor hiccups along the way in my opinion.

**~~Homeless Joe's 1 Big Idea~~** · 03-09-2006, 04:29 AM

Wow 4 episodes in a row

**Gibbles** · 03-09-2006, 12:38 PM

Originally Posted by alt.nerd.obsessive

who will voice Charlie's son??

I've got a bad feeling it'll be Tress McNeil once again doing her same old kid voice, possibly a bad English accent to go with it.

**coltonwiggum** · 03-10-2006, 05:29 AM

Gibbles, turn that frown upside down! I don't think it will be Tress. (I don't know why, I just have a feeling it isn't going to be her this time).

**Postmaster** · 03-10-2006, 05:36 AM

She'll be his wife instead.

It's kind of strange that they hire an additional male cast member in Karl Wiedegott or however you spell it but never got another female cast member to replace maggie roswell. I know the reasons why but it's still odd.

**Veryjammy** · 03-10-2006, 06:05 AM

Who does Karl Wiedegott do the voice of anyway?

**DotheBartman** · 03-10-2006, 06:15 AM

I think he does almost exclusively bit characters...offhand I remember reading that he did Jimmy Carter in Behind the Laughter. But I don't think he has any "characters" really, in terms of recognizable recurring ones. If you look him up on IMDB you can get a feel for the kinds of characters he does.

I think Tress gets too much hate. It's true that it gets repetitive hearing the same voices over and over, but I think that comes down more to the producers not bothering to get anyone else than anything. A new Roswell-type who can do lots of bit female voices would probably be a good addition to the show at this point.

**picollo** · 03-10-2006, 07:28 AM

Fox Press Release

--"THE SIMPSONS"-(8:00-8:30 PM ET/PT) CC

GRAMPA TAKES LIFE BY THE HORNS
ON "THE SIMPSONS"
SUNDAY, APRIL 2, ON FOX

Grampa ruins Homer's plans to make Springfield the new home of a pro football franchise when he mistakes the Commissioner of Football for a burglar and the football stadium is transformed into a bull fighting arena. Tortured by threatening calls from his family and friends, Grampa seeks Manfred Manslaughter's help in committing suicide. When his plan fails at the last minute, Grampa gets a new outlook on life and decides to become Springfield's very own matador in THE SIMPSONS episode "Million Dollar Abie" airing Sunday, April 2 (8:00-8:30 PM ET/PT). (SI-1709) (TV-TBA)

Voice Cast: Dan Castellaneta as Homer Simpson, Mayor Quimby and Groundskeeper Willie, Julie Kavner as Marge Simpson and Patty; Nancy Cartwright as Bart Simpson and Nelson Muntz; Nelson, Ralph and Kearney; Yeardley Smith as Lisa Simpson; Harry Shearer as Kent Brockman, Mr. Burns and Smithers; Pamela Hayden as Milhouse; Hank Azaria as Cletus and Carl.

**StarskyMaxwell** · 03-10-2006, 07:30 AM

The question now is: being a Tim Long episode, who DIDN'T expect something like this?

**Simpsons Forever!** · 03-10-2006, 07:48 AM

Million Dollar Abie - what could have been a really good, plot-focused episode about Grampa considering suicide - seems to have been wrecked by turning him into a matador. I'm not sure about this episode anymore. The only other episode of The Simpsons to have bull-fighting was Pokey Mom and that's one of my worst episodes. Oh, well...

**Nameless** · 03-10-2006, 08:26 AM

this looks rather bad, really. it's probably not going to be as awful as some of Long's other scripts, but I'm not expecting great things.

**david195** · 03-10-2006, 09:22 AM

So Grampa becomes a bullfighter. That's ... interesting. I don't really know what to think about this one. I don't especially dislike Tim Long's episodes but they're certainly not my favourites. Having said that, with a Grampa-centric plot I think it's got potential to be good.

**Garp** · 03-10-2006, 10:02 AM

Oh, God...

**garret** · 03-10-2006, 10:26 AM

Not good, not good at all...

**Veryjammy** · 03-10-2006, 10:31 AM

That sounds absolutely fucking dreadful. I have nothing good to say about that whatsoever. It sounds like a total shithole of an episode.

**Semaj** · 03-10-2006, 10:34 AM

The part about becoming a bull-fighter is questionable. If they picked a better job for Grandpa, the episode would sound more exciting.

**~~Homeless Joe's 1 Big Idea~~** · 03-10-2006, 10:37 AM

I wonder if the Commish will look like Paul Tagluibule (sp?) or like Texan/Duff Owner ?

**Adam R** · 03-10-2006, 10:59 AM

Bleurgh! That sounds horrible. I don't even want to dignify it by saying anything else.

**Rjones** · 03-10-2006, 11:38 AM

Maybe just me, but I reckon the episode sounds quite entertaining!

**Nameless** · 03-10-2006, 11:47 AM

Who is 'Manfred Manslaughter'? Is he a character made up by the show (I'm presuming so)?

**Disgruntled Goat** · 03-10-2006, 12:00 PM

Originally Posted by Simpsons Forever!

Million Dollar Abie - what could have been a really good, plot-focused episode about Grampa considering suicide - seems to have been wrecked by turning him into a matador.

I highly doubt that an episode about a character wanting to commit suicide could be good. But him becoming a matador is hardly better

**~~Homeless Joe's 1 Big Idea~~** · 03-10-2006, 12:10 PM

Originally Posted by Nameless

Who is 'Manfred Manslaughter'? Is he a character made up by the show (I'm presuming so)?

I'm thinking a Jack Kevorkian - Type Character

Originally Posted by Nameless

Who is 'Manfred Manslaughter'? Is he a character made up by the show (I'm presuming so)?

I'm thinking a Jack Kevorkian - Type Character

Googled:

Manfred Manslaughter with Blinded By The Light on the Top of the Police Car, Newcastle 22 Nov 1997. I Dismember You, Newcastle 22 Nov 1997

Character in a BBC 4 Song Book

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