The Simpsons One Step Beyond Forever: Fourth Complete Guide To Our Favorite Family

**Simpsons Forever!** · 10-11-2005, 11:47 PM

Weekend At Burnsie's looks pretty good in that scan. I'd like to see more than just one framegrab, though. I can't wait to get this guide!

**Friz** · 10-12-2005, 01:12 AM

The Weekend at Burnsies page makes it look like The Homer Show. With homer everywhere. Everywhere!

Menawhile, I'm kinda glad they went with The Crows bio. I was worried they'd pull a cheap, HOMR-esque stunt and go for "high Homer".

**TerrorK** · 10-12-2005, 01:21 AM

Any chance of a book owner listing who the character bios are for each episode too? It'd be much appreciated

**Gibbles** · 10-12-2005, 01:54 AM

Ok i'll list season 13 now, but i'll have to do season 14 later

Season 13

The Parent Rap: Judge Constance Harm
Homer The Moe: Professor Huntington
A Hunka Hunk Burns In Love: Gloria
The Blunder Years: Mesmerino The Hip Hypnotist
She Of Little Faith: Nibbles The Hamster
Brawl In The Family: Gabriel The Social Worker
Sweet And Sour Marge: Garth Motherloving
Jaws Wired Shut: The "Afternoon Yak" Hostesses
Half-Secent Proposal: Principal Harlan Dondelinger
The Bar Wants What It Wants: Greta Wolfcastle
The Lastest Gun In The West: Buck Mccoy
The Old Man And The Key: Zelda
Blame It On Lisa: Ronaldo The Orphan
Weekend At Burnsie's: The Crows
Gum Roast: Kang And Kodos
I am Furious (yellow): Geoff Jenkins Animator
The Sweetest Apu: Annette The Squishee Lady
Little Girl In The Big Ten: Brunella Pommelhorst Gym Teacher
The Frying Game: Frank Nelson-Type (Yes Guy)
Poppa's Got A Brand New Badge: Johnny Tightlips

**Robertuybrush** · 10-12-2005, 02:27 AM

Play.com should send my copy next monday... can't wait!

**Wavy Gravy** · 10-12-2005, 05:14 AM

Originally Posted by Gibbles

Jaws Wired Shut: The "Afternoon Yak" Hostesses
Little Girl In The Big Ten: Brunella Pommelhorst Gym Teacher
The Frying Game: Frank Nelson-Type (Yes Guy)

The only three of my predictions that were incorrect. I thought for sure that they'd use Drederick Tatum for "Jaws Wired Shut" - but they seem to be against using recurring characters for episodes where they can just as easily profile boring one-shots (the funeral home salesman instead of Helen Lovejoy in "Tennis the Menace"; the Channel 6 network executives instead of Sideshow Mel in "Day of the Jackanapes"; etc.). However, that's kinda contradicted by their choices for "Little Girl in the Big Ten" and "The Frying Game" - I predicted Tina and Carrie for the former and Mrs. Bellamy for the latter. Eh, Jesse L. McCann's a strange individual...

**Simpsons Forever!** · 10-12-2005, 05:32 AM

What have the between-season pages got in this guide? More sketches, like in Beyond Forever?

**~~the No Guy~~** · 10-12-2005, 05:55 AM

Season 14

How I Spent My Strummer Vaction - Rock Stars ( Homer in his Small Shirt and Glasses)
Bart vs Lisa vs the 3rd grade - Audrey McConnel, 3rd Grade Teacher
Large Marge - Dr Velimirovic, Plastic Surgeon
Helter Shelter - Mitch Hartwell, Reality Channel Producer
The Greatest Louse Detective - Joniur ( Aka Frank Grimes, Jr)
Special Edna - TOY Award Committee
The Dad who knew too Little - Dexter Colt, Privite Eye
The Strong Arms of the Ma - The Mugger
Pray Anything - Larry H. Lawyer, Jr
Barting Over - Baby Stink-Breath
Spelling as Fast as I Can - Booberella
A Star is Born Again - Sara Slone
Mr Spritz goes to Washington - Cookie Kwan
C.E.D'0h - Stark Richdale
'Scuse me well i Miss the Sky - Declan Desmond
Three Gays of the Condo - Julio and Grady
Dude , Where's My Ranch - Luke Stetson, Jr Wrangler
Old Yeller-Belly - Suds McDuff
Brake My Wife, Please - Marriage Counselor
The Bart of War - Jim Proudfoot
Moe Baby Blues - Don Catellanetta

Originally Posted by Simpsons Forever!

What have the between-season pages got in this guide? More sketches, like in Beyond Forever?

Yes,
the first couple pages are Season 13 Production Art

Then btwn S13-S14 Season 13 Character Sketches and Season 14 Production Art

after S14 is S14 Charcter Sketchs, D'ohs, Couch Gags, mmm's and Itchy and Scratchy Filmography

**Reverend Lovejoy** · 10-12-2005, 08:22 AM

Tell me Helen Lovejoy's profile is there. Please, God, tell me!

Sorry, I know I'm overreacting, but I've been looking forward to this book, and that's one of the reasons why.
Heck, I'm an obsessive Lovejoy fan. It's not just about the Rev, you know.

**Dorkus Malorkus** · 10-12-2005, 08:31 AM

Crap, i totally forgot this book was coming out this October. I ordered it in like, June, off Play or Amazon, i forget which. Anyway, i cant wait till the 17th now!

are the chalkboards and couch gags and d'ohs all still listed? anything else special about the book? Thanks for the scan, it looks really awesome...cant wait till my copy arrives! Oh, and would you mind scanning 'Dude, Where's My Ranch'?

**Gibbles** · 10-12-2005, 09:02 AM

Originally Posted by Simpsons Forever!

What have the between-season pages got in this guide? More sketches, like in Beyond Forever?

Yea more background and character sketches

Originally Posted by Reverend Lovejoy

Tell me Helen Lovejoy's profile is there. Please, God, tell me!
Sorry, I know I'm overreacting, but I've been looking forward to this book, and that's one of the reasons why.
Heck, I'm an obsessive Lovejoy fan. It's not just about the Rev, you know.

Nope

Man I never knew she hasn't had one yet, still I was shocked to see that kang and kodos haven't had one till now.

Originally Posted by Dorkus Malorkus

are the chalkboards and couch gags and d'ohs all still listed? anything else special about the book? Thanks for the scan, it looks really awesome...cant wait till my copy arrives! Oh, and would you mind scanning 'Dude, Where's My Ranch'?

Couch Gags, Who Does What Voice, Songs, Church Marquees, and the usal introduction from Matt Groening

No problem, I’ll try and scan it later tonight, hopefully my geocities account can handle it.

Anyway here’s season 14

Season 14

How I Spent My Strimmer Vacation: Rock Stars (picture of homer dressed as one)
Bart vs Lisa vs The Third Grade: Audrey Mcconnel 3rd Grade Teacher
Large Marge: Dr Velimirovic Plastic Surgeon
HelterShelter: Mitch Hartwell The Reality Channel Producer
The Great Louse Detective: Junior (aka Frank Grimes, Jr)
Special Edna: Teacher Of The Year Award Nominating Committee
The Dad Who Knew Too Little: Dexter Colt Private Eye
The Strong Arms Of The Ma: The Mugger
Pray Anything: Larry H. Lawyer, Jr
Barting Over: Baby Stink-Breath (baby Bart with stink breath thing coming out mouth)
I'm Spelling As Fast As I Can: Booberella
A Star Is Born Again: Sara Sloane Hollywood Movie Star
Mr Splitz Goes To Washington: Cookie Kwan Red Coat Realtor
C.E.D'oh: Stark Richdale
Scuse Me While I Miss The Sky: Declan Desmond
Three Gays Of The Condo: Julio And Grady
Dude, Where’s My Ranch?: Luke Stetson Junior Wrangler
Old Yeller Belly: Suds Mcduff Spokedog/Mascot For Duff Beer (santaslittlehelper)
Brake My Wife Please: Marriage Conselor
The Bart Of War: Jim Proudfoot
Moe Baby Blues: Don Castellaneta

**ppoi307** · 10-12-2005, 09:07 AM

cool. Thanks for the info

**Robertuybrush** · 10-12-2005, 09:17 AM

Originally Posted by Gibbles

Yea more background and character sketches

Great, I love that stuff. Thanks for the info, Gibbles.

**Wavy Gravy** · 10-12-2005, 10:37 AM

Originally Posted by Gibbles

Season 14

How I Spent My Strimmer Vacation: Rock Stars (picture of homer dressed as one)
Bart vs Lisa vs The Third Grade: Audrey Mcconnel 3rd Grade Teacher
Large Marge: Dr Velimirovic Plastic Surgeon
HelterShelter: Mitch Hartwell The Reality Channel Producer
The Great Louse Detective: Junior (aka Frank Grimes, Jr)
Special Edna: Teacher Of The Year Award Nominating Committee
The Dad Who Knew Too Little: Dexter Colt Private Eye
The Strong Arms Of The Ma: The Mugger
Pray Anything: Larry H. Lawyer, Jr
Barting Over: Baby Stink-Breath (baby Bart with stink breath thing coming out mouth)
I'm Spelling As Fast As I Can: Booberella
A Star Is Born Again: Sara Sloane Hollywood Movie Star
Mr Splitz Goes To Washington: Cookie Kwan Red Coat Realtor
C.E.D'oh: Stark Richdale
Scuse Me While I Miss The Sky: Declan Desmond
Three Gays Of The Condo: Julio And Grady
Dude, Where’s My Ranch?: Luke Stetson Junior Wrangler
Old Yeller Belly: Suds Mcduff Spokedog/Mascot For Duff Beer (santaslittlehelper)
Brake My Wife Please: Marriage Conselor
The Bart Of War: Jim Proudfoot
Moe Baby Blues: Don Castellaneta

Wow, I got a lot wrong for this season. And they went nuts with modified versions of the regular cast - Baby Stinkbreath? Suds McDuff? "Rock Stars"? What a bunch of cop-outs.

**Gibbles** · 10-12-2005, 10:46 AM

**PeterGriffin525** · 10-12-2005, 10:58 AM

Look's pretty good cant wait to scoop one from the bookstore

**Simpsons Forever!** · 10-12-2005, 11:03 AM

I suppose Kang and Kodos haven't had a profile until now, because they don't have profiles in THOH episodes.
Dude, Where's My Ranch? looks good - so purple and white again for S14. What was the last Season they used this colour scheme for? And only one framegrab again - hope this isn't the trend throughout.

**Wavy Gravy** · 10-12-2005, 11:41 AM

Purple and white has also been used for Season 3 in "The Simpsons: A Complete Guide to Our Favorite Family" and Season 9 in "The Simpsons Forever".

Okay, I gotta ask - why the hell are they giving the profiled characters these "titles" now? "Luke Stetson, Junior Wrangler"? That could just as easily have been put in the bio itself under "Identity" or something. And is it just me, or are these episode synopses getting much longer than they need to be?

McCann, I didn't think it was possible, but you're slipping even further away from the first book's format.

EDIT: I just realized that the above page features a "Music Moment" chronicling the scene where Maggie dances to Britney Spears' "Oops! I Did It Again". That's not what Music Moments are for, genius - they're for references to songs (as in Homer saying "Now excuse me while I kiss the sky" in "Brother, Can You Spare Two Dimes?"), not for the actual use of a song itself. They did this a lot in the last book too, I notice...

**Rowdy Roddy Peeper** · 10-12-2005, 12:48 PM

So basically Jesse McCann is the book's answer to Mike Scully, declining the once perfect complete guide books.

**Flimpson Tide** · 10-12-2005, 12:51 PM

I thought for sure that they'd use Drederick Tatum for "Jaws Wired Shut" - but they seem to be against using recurring characters for episodes where they can just as easily profile boring one-shots (the funeral home salesman instead of Helen Lovejoy in "Tennis the Menace"; the Channel 6 network executives instead of Sideshow Mel in "Day of the Jackanapes"; etc.).

They're probably trying to save recurring characters for later, incase there's an episode with nobody to profile (but obviously, most of them have been done already).

Still not enough framegrabs. I'd rather see red used for once instead of purple again.

**Wavy Gravy** · 10-12-2005, 01:03 PM

Originally Posted by E-I-E-I-Moe

They're probably trying to save recurring characters for later, incase there's an episode with nobody to profile (but obviously, most of them have been done already).

Yeah, only thing is, a lot of those episodes are actually in this book. "How I Spent My Strummer Vacation" is one such example - there are one or two characters at the fantasy camp who haven't gotten bios yet, not to mention the versatile Wiseguy as the cab driver, but no, they chose to profile rock stars. No specific rock stars - just rock stars in general. Both Dave Shutton and Snowball II appear in "Old Yeller Belly", but instead they basically recycle Santa's Little Helper. The Blue-Haired Lawyer features prominently in "Barting Over", and instead we get Bart as Baby Stinkbreath.

Originally Posted by E-I-E-I-Moe

Still not enough framegrabs.

That's another one of my qualms. There are people who haven't seen these episodes in their entirety and need a good chunk of framegrabs to identify them visually, and this book isn't going to help them with that.

**Tomacco** · 10-12-2005, 07:13 PM

Had plenty of time to look it over today. My review should be on SNPP as soon as Jouni puts it up. (I could post it here, but I'd rather boost SNPP's hit count, hehe).

**D DEBBS** · 10-13-2005, 07:26 AM

I got the very LAST copy at Barnes and Noble in Oceanside, CA last night and put it on hold.

**Reverend Lovejoy** · 10-13-2005, 08:25 AM

Do me a favour, somebody, and tell me where I can find the people who created this book, so I can beat the stuffing out of them.

Seriously, I'm THAT pissed off. :angry:

**Jouni** · 10-13-2005, 08:35 AM

Originally Posted by Tomacco

Had plenty of time to look it over today. My review should be on SNPP as soon as Jouni puts it up. (I could post it here, but I'd rather boost SNPP's hit count, hehe).

It's online now. Thanks, Jonah!

http://www.snpp.com/news.html#onestep

**Tomacco** · 10-13-2005, 08:45 AM

Originally Posted by Reverend Lovejoy

Do me a favour, somebody, and tell me where I can find the people who created this book, so I can beat the stuffing out of them.

Seriously, I'm THAT pissed off. :angry:

That's sort of....sad?

**Wavy Gravy** · 10-13-2005, 09:56 AM

Originally Posted by Reverend Lovejoy

Do me a favour, somebody, and tell me where I can find the people who created this book, so I can beat the stuffing out of them.

Seriously, I'm THAT pissed off. :angry:

Oh, don't be ridiculous...

Allow me.

Originally Posted by Tomacco, on SNPP

Disappointingly, "Half-Decent Proposal"'s pages mark the first time between all four books that an episode is not even given any screenshots at all.

YOU GOTTA BE FUCKING KIDDING ME. Now that they've got precedent, I just know they're gonna do this again in the next book, probably for more than just one episode. Jesse L. McCann, I hate you. I abso-fucking-lutely hate you.

Now I have to start making my own guide pages again so I can prove that I know the format of the books a hundred times better than any of the schmucks at HarperPerrennial.

**Postmaster** · 10-13-2005, 10:45 AM

Is this supposed to be out in the U.K yet, I couldn't find it.

**Dorkus Malorkus** · 10-13-2005, 10:56 AM

17th, friend.

anyway, no framegrabs? what the fuck?

anywho, after ordering mine in july, i got two e-mails from amazon telling me my 'switch' card had been rejected. i dont use a switch card, so that's annoying, not to mention the bastards already took the money when i ordered it in july...

this just means my book is delayed. i probably wont get it till november...

**Gibbles** · 10-13-2005, 10:59 AM

Originally Posted by Homer_Thompson

Is this supposed to be out in the U.K yet, I couldn't find it.

Well it was in the forbidden planet in London, but they most likely import there stock. I assume it will be in most book shops in a week or so.

Also amazon have it listed as in stock

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