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    well that's what i was looking for - you didn't like the opening. that's fine. no need for all the random hypocritical bullshittin' though, just say you don't like it.

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    Originally posted by Robbie Whisman
    This whole episode had to be a joke. Didnt enjoy it at all. I really dont see how so many people are loving it this much.
    Compared to anything before season 10, this episode gets an instant F. But I have to judge episodes differently now.

    Personally, I think this THOH is getting more praise than it deserves. Particularly "Stop the World", which will most likely turn out to be one of the most overrated THOH segments ever.

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    why can't they make them scary anymore

    i know that they are never the scariest things ever, but the first few has some terror in them

    now its just funny things with in sci-fi twist

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    what i did miss was that the segments almost always have a creepy twist- none of them did here. bleh.
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    I agree with the THOHs not being creepy anymore. Instead of the Benny Hill (or whatever it was) parody in "Reaper", they could have done a better, much more creepy chase scene.

    A tribute to Bart Simpson

    You think THAT's bad? What about that time when I was turned into a Tetris block?

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    I loved the opening..."beat the lumps, beat the lumps..." and the Kang and Kodos rip on airing the Holloween episode in November.

    Reaper madness:
    The fact that it was the same basic plot line that the family guy used and the use benny hill chasing thing again took away from the funny parts for me in this one. There were some good parts but I don't think that I laughed at them until I watched it again. One I liked is when Bart offered Milhouse to death because "we all know there's no happy ending there".

    Frinkinstien
    This one was pretty good with the Lisa's predictive assumptions, and the killing, and the jokes that make ya wanta laugh out loud in short umehy.

    Stop The World, I want to Goof off

    Pretty good. I liked the fact that Bart looked like he did in the episode where the indian casino gives him a vision of the future. I also thought it was funny that Milhouse ended up just as bald as his father by the time he was ...i guess that would have made them 25. Using Martin as a scapegoat was good too.

    Overall, better than last year but not up to tree house average.

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    Originally posted by NoOneFamous
    Yeah, I know, that was pretty much the point, but just becuase its a THOH doesn't mean the characters should act completely different than they normally would.
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    The characters can take LONG steps out of being themselves since there is no rules in a THoH episode. It's when they act unlike themselves in normal episodes is when there's problems.


    Well, ya'know if you stay positive and forget about trivial things like "proper characterization," "Satire," and "emotional depth" watching new Simpsons episodes can be a seemingly enjoyable lie.

    "One of the keys to life is having a sense of proportion, knowing how long to sit at a restaurant after you've eaten, or how long you should go on vacation — if you go to Hawaii for a month on vacation, I guarantee you that by the end you'll hate it. So it's the same with a TV show, you want to do a certain amount of it, so that when people look back on it and they love it. I could have easily done the show for one or two or three more years, but it would have changed the way people look back at it. I think I made the right decision. Because people like the show now even more than they did in the 1990s, because it didn't get worn out." -- Jerry Seinfeld

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    Well, I finally finished downloading the episode, since the episode started late on Sunday and, of course, I had to work and the timer on my VCR didn't tape it...and now Glayvin is going to talk.

    Reaper Madness: First of all, the Benny Hill homage, although used in an episode last year, is still funny. It was just a time filler though. Like was said before, it was pretty predictable what was going to happen and the ending just seemed like it came suddenly, like the segment was too short. I thought Bart offering Milhouse to Death was pretty funny too; "we all know there's no happy ending there". Grade: 3/5

    Frinkenstein: As a Professor Frink fan, I had high hopes for this one, as well as hearing Jerry Lewis, who of course Professor Frink is based from (Nutty Professor), do the voice of Frink's father. But the good parts were few and far between. The segment just seemed to drag on and the humor just wasn't there, I thought it would be the best of the 3, but it was actually the worst. Jerry Lewis was good though in his guest appearance. As I said, it dragged on and on, while Reaper Madness seemed to be too short and rushed. And Marge, please stop with the stupid pop culture references. Grade: 2/5

    Stop the World, I Want to Goof Off: Basically, all that has been said before. It was the best segment of the 3, as well as the funniest. Seeing Mayor Quimby turned into a sandwich was very funny. Not really much to say about it other than, Grade: 4/5

    Overall: 3/5. A nice improvement from last year's halloween shitfest, I think the best THOH since possibly XI, but it was still rather average, with its funny parts and its stupid parts. I'm glad they kept Garner and de la Hoya's pointless cameos down to a minimum, unlike THOH X's cameo extravaganza.

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    Originally posted by Eggy
    Compared to anything before season 10, this episode gets an instant F. But I have to judge episodes differently now.

    Personally, I think this THOH is getting more praise than it deserves. Particularly "Stop the World", which will most likely turn out to be one of the most overrated THOH segments ever.
    Finally, someone who agrees. Ill admit, this ep made me laugh maybe 1 time more than say The Lastest Gun in the West, but I still give it an F. I think its getting too overated in this thread.

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    Originally posted by Robbie Whisman
    Finally, someone who agrees. Ill admit, this ep made me laugh maybe 1 time more than say The Lastest Gun in the West, but I still give it an F. I think its getting too overated in this thread.
    You know your in trouble when your agreeing with Eggy.

    Overrated? Pah! Nuts to you. Can we hear why you hate this beyond the 'didn't make me laugh' thing?
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    Originally posted by Charmy
    You know your in trouble when your agreeing with Eggy.

    Overrated? Pah! Nuts to you. Can we hear why you hate this beyond the 'didn't make me laugh' thing?
    Well, for me, I watched a bunch of the great old THOHs (V, VI, VII, and VII) the day before the new one, so that didn't help me enjoy this one much.

    But I tryed not to let that affect my judgement.

    But even you Charmy have to agree that this is crap compared to the classic THOHs. And if you don't agree, I've just lost some respect for you (putting my respect level for you at -1).

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    Originally posted by Eggy
    Well, for me, I watched a bunch of the great old THOHs (V, VI, VII, and VII)
    WOW! You watched VII AND VII? Amazing!

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    For today, this episode was average, but compared to the classic THOHs, this really is crap. One could argue that the first 5 THOH episodes are now classic Halloween viewing material (besides horror movies of course), much like "Its the Great Pumpkin, Charlie Brown!" IMO, the THOHs lost their touch starting with season 10, and every year it becomes more and more apparent that becuase these are "tradition", its more of a chore to make them than anything.

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    Yeah, I don't think I want to watch THOH XIV ever again. I didn't hate it the first time (even though I didn't really like it either), but I know that when I watch it again I'll notice more horrible jokes and pacing issues, and it'll end up on my list of crappy episodes. Agreed with you, NoOneFamous, that it seems like they're just making them because its tradition at this point. There just isn't any spirit to them anymore.

    Again, I hate to say it, but....they should just stop doing THOH. I can deal with the breaking of tradition if it means no more mediocre specials. They shouldn't just keep dragging these out simply because "they have to".
    Two eyes, two ears, a chin, a mouth, ten fingers, two nipples, a butt, two kneecaps, a penis. I've just described to you the Loch Ness Monster. And the reward for its capture? All the riches in Scotland. So I have one question: why are you here?

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    Originally posted by DotheBartman
    Yeah, I don't think I want to watch THOH XIV ever again. I didn't hate it the first time (even though I didn't really like it either), but I know that when I watch it again I'll notice more horrible jokes and pacing issues, and it'll end up on my list of crappy episodes. Agreed with you, NoOneFamous, that it seems like they're just making them because its tradition at this point. There just isn't any spirit to them anymore.

    Again, I hate to say it, but....they should just stop doing THOH. I can deal with the breaking of tradition if it means no more mediocre specials. They shouldn't just keep dragging these out simply because "they have to".
    I think for #15, it would actually work if they did one story for the entire episode. I think they could come up with one good strong Halloween plot to sustain 22 minutes, and have better pacing than the randomness of some of the newer ones.
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    Frankly, I never noticed a huge decline in the Treehouse of Horror episodes until last year and this year, when it seems they've finally lost their charm, and are just going through the motions.

    Even during the Scully era, all of the Treehouse of Horror episodes were very well-done, and didn't feel like Scully at all (THOHX being an exception, it actually was a bad episode). It was like the writers went out of their way once a year and put extra effort into the Halloween episodes, no matter how crappy the other episodes were getting. THOH8, THOH9, THOH11, and THOH12 were all among the best of their respective seasons. They did have Scullylike tendencies, and were not up to the level of THOH4 or 5, but still very good Halloween episodes with engaging storylines and creative concepts.

    As for the alleged lack of Halloweeny theme or horror in recent THOH's, I've really noticed little change. Look at THOH2; the first 2 segments were pure fantasy, and while the 3rd segment was a horror parody, the execution was very lighthearted and mainly played for laughs. THOH3 featured a King Kong parody, which had even less to do with Halloween than the fairy tales segment in THOH11. Admittedly, there were some genuinely creepy storylines, such as Bad Dream House or Nightmare Cafeteria, but those were very rare.

    The first feeling I got that the writers just weren't trying anymore was in last year's Halloween episode. Fright to Creep and Scare Harms was totally rambling and uninspired, and Island of Dr. Hibbert had absolutely no semblance of a plot. This year's Halloween episode, we got another yawn-inducing segment full of plot holes (Frinkenstein), and Reaper Madness was like a far less funny version of G-g-g-ghost Dad. And even the last 2 had Send In The Clones and Stop The World I Want To Goof Off, which were on-par with classic THOH segments.

    As for this particular episode:
    Reaper Madness C+
    Frinkenstein D-
    Stop the World I Want to Goof Off A-
    overall C

    It was a small improvement over last year's, but not nearly as good as THOH12.

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    Originally posted by Eggy
    Well, for me, I watched a bunch of the great old THOHs (V, VI, VII, and VII) the day before the new one, so that didn't help me enjoy this one much.

    But I tryed not to let that affect my judgement.

    But even you Charmy have to agree that this is crap compared to the classic THOHs. And if you don't agree, I've just lost some respect for you (putting my respect level for you at -1).
    Oops. That was directed at Robbie, not you. Should have made myself more clear.

    I ask you to read the notice in my signiture. It should clear up everything between me and you. I'm sorry, but your such an easy target for a good laugh. Don't take it seriously.

    And crap? No. A completely different style? Yes. The classic THoH's were made to be creepy, have a distinct Halloween feel, and be entertaining. The goal of the new ones has really been for the writers to do stuff the couldn't do in normal episodes, and have a lot of fun doing it. So instead of getting a creepy episode full of dark humour, we get more lighthearted ones played for laughs. If you have a big problem with them not being creepy, then you'll probably hate them. If you don't really mind that much, they can be pretty good. It's all a matter of taste.

    And one note to Scully: Actually, there has been a lot of horror in the good THoH's. IV, the best ever, had three distinctly Halloweeny segments. The second best, V, had two very creepy segments, including the best ever, The Shinning. (I feel two is the perfect number of creepy segments to have in a THoH. Don't ask me why). III had the classic 'Dial Z for Zombies' and the moderately Halloweenish 'Clown Without Pity'. Not to say there hasn't been Halloweenish THoH segments in recent years, but there's usually fewer of them or they aren't as well done. The real problem is that the horror ones just aren't as good, and are thus forgetable. So the THoH's used to be creepy, they fail now because the segments meant to be creepy fail at it.

    That has to be my most incoherent rant yet, but what I'm trying to underscore is that the early ones had a lot of creepiness, but it hasn't been executed as well or as often in recent years.

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    Originally posted by Charmy
    Oops. That was directed at Robbie, not you. Should have made myself more clear.

    I ask you to read the notice in my signiture. It should clear up everything between me and you. I'm sorry, but your such an easy target for a good laugh. Don't take it seriously.

    And crap? No. A completely different style? Yes. The classic THoH's were made to be creepy, have a distinct Halloween feel, and be entertaining. The goal of the new ones has really been for the writers to do stuff the couldn't do in normal episodes, and have a lot of fun doing it. So instead of getting a creepy episode full of dark humour, we get more lighthearted ones played for laughs. If you have a big problem with them not being creepy, then you'll probably hate them. If you don't really mind that much, they can be pretty good. It's all a matter of taste.

    And one note to Scully: Actually, there has been a lot of horror in the good THoH's. IV, the best ever, had three distinctly Halloweeny segments. The second best, V, had two very creepy segments, including the best ever, The Shinning. (I feel two is the perfect number of creepy segments to have in a THoH. Don't ask me why). III had the classic 'Dial Z for Zombies' and the moderately Halloweenish 'Clown Without Pity'. Not to say there hasn't been Halloweenish THoH segments in recent years, but there's usually fewer of them or they aren't as well done. The real problem is that the horror ones just aren't as good, and are thus forgetable. So the THoH's used to be creepy, they fail now because the segments meant to be creepy fail at it.

    That has to be my most incoherent rant yet, but what I'm trying to underscore is that the early ones had a lot of creepiness, but it hasn't been executed as well or as often in recent years.
    I know it wasn't directed at me, but I just wanted to voice my opinion.

    And I was joking about that respect thing, just so you know. Now who's the one who takes things too seriously? Hmm?

    And for the record, I have nothing against THOHs that aren't creepy. (Aside from V,) THOH VI is my favourite THOH. But it was far from halloweenish, or even creepy (though one could consider Nightmare on Evergreen Terrace a little creepy).

    I'm not saying THOHXIV is crap compared to the classics because it's not creepy, but just because it's not half as good.

    I don't care what the excuse is, but I remember a time when I was excited about new THOHs. Now I have trouble sitting through one and not thinking "What the hell was that about?" (which I did a few times during this episode).

    I take back my 3/5 score, I now give this one a 2/5. It doesn't deserve anything more.

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    Perhaps I'm in the minority here, but I don't understand when some people on this board rate episodes "based on the show now." You shouldn't feel like you have to change you rating system, just because a certain show has evolved over the years. Especially when dealing with T.V. shows you should base your reviews on the show as a whole. I try and do that. If an episode "sucks" then it is going to suck regardless. Don't say, "well it was pretty bad, but because it's Season 15, then I HAVE to give it a 4". If you think it deserves a failing grade, give it a failing grade. Last year I gave two episodes failing grades (Dude, Where's My Ranch, and Pray Anything...both of which are abysmal failures in my opinion). I still get enjoyment out of new episode. Usually my ratings from last season fell between a 3 and a 4. Respectible, but not great. In short, just rate how you feel the episode should rate as a whole (meaning taking in the entire run of the series), not how you think it rates in that given season. Feel free to try and change my opinion.

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    Originally posted by Charmy
    And one note to Scully: Actually, there has been a lot of horror in the good THoH's. IV, the best ever, had three distinctly Halloweeny segments. The second best, V, had two very creepy segments, including the best ever, The Shinning. (I feel two is the perfect number of creepy segments to have in a THoH. Don't ask me why).
    Agreed here. IV and V are my two favorites. However, The Devil And Homer Simpson was pretty comparable in creepiness and execution to G-g-g-ghost Dad, the only difference being that "Devil" was the funniest segment of all time, while "Ghost" was merely very funny.

    III had the classic 'Dial Z for Zombies' and the moderately Halloweenish 'Clown Without Pity'. Not to say there hasn't been Halloweenish THoH segments in recent years, but there's usually fewer of them or they aren't as well done. The real problem is that the horror ones just aren't as good, and are thus forgetable. So the THoH's used to be creepy, they fail now because the segments meant to be creepy fail at it.
    To me, the ratio of horrific halloween segments remained around the same during the Scully years. THOH's always seemed like an excuse for the writers to simply write more creative or fun stories. Night of the Dolphin is one segment that certainly tried to recapture a Halloweeny feel. As you said, it wasn't quite as creepy as it could have been, tending towards childishness and unnecessary wackiness, but I'd still consider it a partial success. Other good Halloweeny ones would be Hell Toupee, all of THOH8, House of Whacks, and Ghost Dad.

    And, most of the Scully Halloween segments succeeded in being inventive or just fun in its randomness. Hex In The City is one harshly criticized segment I actually enjoyed; yeah, most of the curses were played for cheap laughs, but it was very similar to Bart's dream in THOH2.

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    Ok, Ill tell you why it didnt make me laugh. The writing was just horrible. It had maybe 4 or 5 jokes that got a small chuckle out of me, but that was it. Just my opinion.

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    Originally posted by Robbie Whisman
    Ok, Ill tell you why it didnt make me laugh. The writing was just horrible. It had maybe 4 or 5 jokes that got a small chuckle out of me, but that was it. Just my opinion.
    That's not quite what I was asking. What was so bad about the jokes/writing? Saying something without backing it up with an argument doesn't get you much credibility in these parts.

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    charmy is like the GD Krew footsoldier

    awesome

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    Originally posted by Mohammed Jafar
    charmy is like the GD Krew footsoldier

    awesome
    I'd probably be more enthusiastic if I had any idea what you were talking about.

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    you happily take care of the "can you cite some evidence" legwork that we find so tedious

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    I'm sorry,but why is everyone such a prude? The violence in the opening was really not that bad.

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    Originally posted by mintjellyonthelam
    I'm sorry,but why is everyone such a prude? The violence in the opening was really not that bad.
    A prude is not someone opposed to violence. Look it up.

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    Hooray! It looks like we get a repeat of this episode on the 18th! ;-/

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    Originally posted by Maddog53
    Perhaps I'm in the minority here, but I don't understand when some people on this board rate episodes "based on the show now." You shouldn't feel like you have to change you rating system, just because a certain show has evolved over the years.
    Agreed. I even mentioned in my review that the best segment in this episode was still weaker than the worst of Treehouse of Horrors I, IV, V, or VII, but I still managed to enjoy it. It gets a B- in this season, and matches a B- in any other season.

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