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  • 5/5: Smokin'!

    20 26.32%
  • 4/5: A good ol' Laramie does the trick!

    30 39.47%
  • 3/5: Well, it was cheap at least.

    14 18.42%
  • 2/5: Blasé brand.

    9 11.84%
  • 1/5: Oh dear heavens! Why am I smoking this?!

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    Rate & Review: Puffless

    Selma and Patty quit smoking (again), this time because they find out their father died of lung cancer. Meanwhile, Maggie is having adventures with animals.
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    only problem with this episode is the terrible characterization of the towel that maggie befriends in act 2. probably the worst talking towel in the history of the show, hank azaria just couldn't be bothered to inject any energy or character into the voice, thus wasting a good opportunity.

    2.7/10, rounded up to a 3, because of newton's law of mathematics.
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    -- Not really good couch gag.
    ** Baby coming out
    * Pontiac GTO cutaway
    * Mr. Burns head joke.
    ** Assisted suicide kit
    --- Awful overly wrong gag!
    End of act 1, not too good. 5.5/10.
    ** Homer cutaway.
    Oh great. Here comes the Maggie filler short.
    *** Hans Moleman is great as always.
    * Comic Book guy running.
    * Hibbert lighting cigar
    ** Very fatty septum.
    ** 1 of Cletus kids is sober
    ** "During"
    This is getting excellent! 9/10!
    ** Homer bleaching eyes
    * Bleaching Bart
    *** Bleaching eyes again
    ** Bleaching ears
    ** Cletus kid
    * Drinking beer
    * Eating fingernails
    Another very strong act! 9/10!
    Overall, after 2 duds, we have a good one! 8/10.
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    The main plot is standard fare but has a couple of bad gags (like the suicide kit) that bring it down. Then there's Homer pouring bleach in both he and Bart's eyes (why?), which isn't funny in the slightest. Patty and Selma give up smoking, Selma splits, then they both give up smoking, then at the end they immediately go back to smoking with no explanation whatsoever. Whatever, don't care. Blah. Maggie's plot, however, fared much better. Cute, whimsical animation combined with the simple yet effective plot of just trying to rescue a possum from the bumbling Cletus made it work. Most of the gags were good, except for the split second wall of text that came with one squeak of Maggie's pacifier and the fingernail joke with Cletus' children (seriously, gross). Spider-pig was fun, even if he didn't have any reason for being there, and I liked how he just wallowed in mud at the end. Overall, the episode was fair but extremely flawed. The weak smoking plot really brought this one down, but the subplot salvaged some of it at least. 3/5, 6.2/10

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    lmao homer pours bleach in bart's eyes? how can you give a show where a man pours bleach in his son's eye a 3/5. deserves at LEAST a 4.9
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    But that's where we do our couch gags! Hehe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by candy plunderer View Post
    lmao homer pours bleach in bart's eyes? how can you give a show where a man pours bleach in his son's eye a 3/5. deserves at LEAST a 4.9
    If you think I'm going to disregard everything else that goes into the rating just for one gag, you're kidding yourself. Besides, that plot itself is a 4/10 already. Average that with the 8.5/10 overall of Maggie's plot, and you get 6.25/10. Go figure.

    EDIT: Oh, now I see what you mean...
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    A good episode that did a great job at using lesser-seen characters in prominent roles in both the main plot and subplot. I'd say it's the funniest episode of the season to this point as well; more jokes hit than missed, although like in almost all episodes, there were a few that went on too long, like the slideshow and the bleach stuff, but they were solid overall. I was not a fan of Homer pouring bleach into his son's eyes, but Bart's thanks to his dad partially salvaged it. The main plot was interesting and had some pretty funny moments, like Homer imagining Patty and Selma being fat and him being fatter, as well as the reference back to the couch gag (which was GREAT, by the way; classic-era worthy). When Selma went to the Simpsons' house to tell Patty she had quit smoking, I thought this was going to become like The Cartridge Family, where she would keep saying that but keep smoking. I'm glad it didn't turn out that way, though (Nothing against The Cartridge Family, of course. It's a great episode).

    The subplot was...bizarre. But it kind of worked, actually. Kudos to the writers for trying something original. I don't know if it was a parody of anything, though. It was kind of cute seeing Maggie gather all the animals together and lead them on an attack to take back their possum friend. The Spider-Pig appearance was decent. He's obviously much more popular to the casual fans than the hardcore ones, so I can understand them putting him in there. It was fine, but not extraordinary. Overall, I thought this was a very original episode with two solid plots. A few problems keep the episode from getting top marks, but I think it deserves a 4/5.

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    @Pax-o'-lantern Well, that depends on what it is. If a moment contributes to further ruination of a character, then I can understand ranking the episode lower. For me however, it takes more than that. Co-Dependents' Day for example, has Homer acting like a piece of shit in almost the entire episode. That surely discards almost any points the episode at first got for jokes.


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    It was better than excepted but there were some meh jokes and the execution of the plot. A few jokes dragged and it was kinda pointless that Patty and Selma returned smoking (but then again, status is quo, so it's not important). The Maggie subplot was the best part of the episode because it was a little more interesting to watch and the animation was slightly better. So I'd give this episode a 7/10. Beginning was a little slow though.
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    Really liked this one, The Maggie story looked as if it was animated like the Maggie feature film short at the theater.
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    What could havebeen an interesting story just kinda went by the numbers and made place for a b-plot (notsure which was which) that isn't anything else than cutesy. Still I had 2 or 3 good laughs. The Usb flash drive and the callback to the couch gag. But seriously the worstjoke, the bleach gag just went on and on..

    2/5

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    honestly Maggie's story didn't interest me at all, if it was only meant to bring in spider pig he could have been used for better

    Also Jon Lovitz is credited but I didn't hear him at all

    well at least YoYo ma doing theme at the end was an okay thing
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    Written by J. Stewart Burns
    Directed by Rob Oliver
    No billboard or blackboard
    Couch: everybody is a car, similar to Cars; Maggie the Monster Truck runs over the otheres
    Special Guest Voice: Jon Lovitz, Yo-Yo Ma
    Also Starring: Pamela Hayden, Tress MacNeille, Chris Edgerly
    Closing theme performed by Yo-Yo Ma
    Overseas Animation: Rough Draft
    TV Rating: TV-PG-DLSV

    Since when does Marge's mother live in a house?

    There's a Maggie Fall (when she's on the roof).

    The weather vane Maggie swings on doesn't have an E or W - just N and S.

    Patty was going to take Jub-Jub with her, but isn't Jub-Jub Selma's? (Or was Jub-Jub now Patty's responsibility once Selma adopted Ling?)

    The couch gag was referenced in the show.

    Maggie doesn't turn the crank on her jack-in-the-box so much as she pumps it up and down.

    Fat Tony is on Selma's phone list of ex-husbands.

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    He was the voice of Selma's cigarette.

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    Oh, I also had trouble believing that Patty, Selma, and Marge didn't know or ever ask how their father died. He was their dad, for crying out loud; I think they would've wanted to know how he died. And the fact that Jacqueline never told them even if they didn't ask makes her seem like kind of an asshole to me.

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    I was only half-paying attention, so I will watch the episode again before giving it a rating. Nonetheless, I must say I was very impressed (and happy) to see Spider Pig.

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    My main gripe about this episode is that there were far too many instances where characters behaved unnaturally in order to serve a forced narrative. It came off as very contrived and, as much as it's nice to see exposure to some under-utilized characters (Patty and Maggie, in particular) and semi-original plot execution, I'm not in favor of it if it comes at the expense of everyone else's characterization.

    The main plot was pretty much a waste apart from Patty's genuinely touching moment with Homer while drinking wine (which was still ruined by two callbacks to the bleach gag) and the Maggie subplot was done better twice before in A Streetcar Named Marge and The Longest Daycare. The pacing didn't exactly mesh well, either. I almost would have preferred to have had this episode divided into two halves instead of jumping back and forth the way it did.
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    Jeez, another Stewart Burns ep so soon after Every Man's Dream. Gotta wonder how his eps have such a big quality discrepancy - there seems to be no middle ground for this man. Good thing tonight's ep leaned toward the better side.

    Anyway, the thing that bugged me the most about tonight's episode was the jarring tone shifts between the two plots. I mean...the Maggie plot has music cues exclusively written for it, purposely fuzzy animation, no dialogue, and title cards, whereas the other plot was essentially typical modern Simpsons fare animation-wise. The Maggie story was cute, but the way they framed it as its own story almost entirely separate from the other plot made the switches between plots really weird. Despite that, I thought it was a neat little Longest Daycare-esque plot - this might be the most we've seen out of Clausen in a while, and I would've been totally fine if tonight's cues were the cues used in The Longest Daycare (Clausen nails the half-whimsical, half-serious music in the way the big ol' Hans Zimmer score sorta misses). The hick jokes with Cletus generally tanked and detracted a lot from the mood the story was trying to set, especially considering how much dialogue he used. (Although the non-dialogue parts in the first act made the Duffman parrot joke work.) Still, I've missed seeing short, simple stories on the show lately: Maggie makes friend, friend in trouble, Maggie goes save friend.

    The Patty/Selma bit was interesting in how it looked into the infrequently-seen Bouvier family history, but I kinda wish it had been more ambitious than "Patty and Selma break up GASP." Maybe it was because of how much time the Maggie plot took up, but most of the attempted emotion in this plot fell flat or was ruined by the very next joke ("your father died of lung cancer" "hey why didn't you tell us to stop smoking, then?" "I thought it looked cool"). The bleach gag was essentially "Patty is ugly, isn't this funny guys" although the way it was drawn out might make it a rare case of a Jean era joke succeeding at the practice of pushing an unfunny joke so far it's mildly funny again. With the time constraints and the shallow conflict that develops when Selma won't quit smoking, it's not surprising that the ending is kinda abrupt with Patty going "I've got a DECISION to make" to Jon Lovitz the fag and then promptly making up with Selma and enjoying a smoke. So much for Father Bouvier dying of lung cancer.

    Other assorted observations: Spider Pig's appearance was fanservice but I guess better Spider Pig than another random animal. The writers seem to be continually baffled at how to write for Ling, so besides a quick mention in a joke she is forgotten yet again. Chalk up another point for Father Bouvier having blue hair, so it seems his brown hair in The Way We Was is getting less and less plausible. How could Selma smell their apartment if she lost her sense of smell according to Black Widower?

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    I've always thought of Patty and Selma as the show's most underrated characters, and it seems like there hasn't been an episode about them in ages. Probably because the writers apparently don't know how to write any substantial for them, considering how much padding there was in this episode. I mean, the main plot felt like it took up less than half of the episode. Having said that, it was one of the more enjoyable plots the show has had in a while, largely because of how little Patty and Selma are seen these days. It didn't go into nearly as much depth as I would have liked it to, especially considering a major fight between them hasn't really been done before (at least not with them actually fighting with each other face to face, at least not that I can remember), but it was still something that I wanted to see, and thus it kept my attention. And maybe because of the fact that there was no one-time character in this episode, it felt a lot more like a real Simpsons episode than I am used to. At least the main plot did. I would like to think the un-satisfying resolution is commentary on how easy it is for someone trying to quit a bad habit to go back to it for no reason, while using ridiculously petty excuses to as justification. I really would like to believe that that was the writer's intention with that scene.

    The subplot, on the other hand, I'm not a fan of. There is a good reason why Maggie is seldom used for plots: it's because she's a god damn baby. Her sole character trait is that she is a baby who inexplicably seems to be capable of using guns and leading armies. But that's been done before in A Streetcar Named Marge, whose subplot I'm also not a fan of because there was no depth to it and a baby shouldn't be capable of such things. It was boring then, and it was boring in this episode. Not to mention how repugnantly cute it tried to be, with that disgustingly sentimental Disney-esque animation and those title cards. That was really the worst thing about the subplot. Also, Spider Pig is one of the worst things The Simpsons has ever come up with. They really need to quit referencing it. Anyway, I actually hated the subplot less than it probably seems like (although I still didn't like it), mostly because there were some admittedly funny gags there, as there were elsewhere in the episode (not that all of them worked). I don't remember laughing once during the first two episodes of the season, but I laughed a few times during this one. In spite of its flaws, a massive improvement over the last two episodes. 5/10
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    Act 1: Decent short couch gag. Yay, a Dr. Nick appearance, surprised at how rare those are these days. Squirrel/Maggie scene a bit random, but was kinda cute, animation noticeably nicer here. Decent Lady Bouvier references I guess, always surprised when Jaquline appears at all in the show, so nice to see her again. Assisted suicide kit was dark, as was Marge’s line about her dad. YoY o Ma still being there got a chuckle. Would’ve liked a little more explanation and depth for father Bouvier’s death, actually expand upon this barely seen character than just say a lazy throwaway line to move the plot, but okay.

    Act 2: Maggie subplot still feels out of place when paired with the smoking story, but it’s definitely something different at least. Honestly should’ve been made into another separate theatrical short instead, wonder if that came up when making it? Hmm. Anyway, Patty and Selma plot is competent, laughed at Homer’s thought bubble and the Duff Man parrot, fairly good stuff still.

    Act 3: Ugh, that bleach gag. Slightly saved with Bart thanking Homer, but still pretty bleh. Disco Stu appearance was alright. And now back to the bleach thing, deuugh, stop it. And now Homer fantasizes about Patty, and…pours bleach into his eyes again, alright, screw this joke. Once again, Maggie short manages to be the best part of the ep. Animation again looks a lot better than usual (saw some pre good facial expressions during the fight scene, along with just better lighting and fluidness than usual). Spiderpig didn’t live up to my hype, but it was nice having him in an episode I guess. Anyway, Maggie saves the day, Patty and Selma go back to smoking cause who cares, and that’s the ending, good enough.

    Overall, this episode was fairly enjoyable. Maggie’s adventure was really pleasant to watch, and while maybe not as great as Longest Daycare, I could've seen as a sequel short with a few adjustments. Smoking plot also wasn’t too bad either. Could’ve been better, but there wasn’t anything that really bothered me either (well, the bleach joke aside). Only thing I wished they did better was the transitions between the two plots, though I'm not really sure how without just splitting the entire thing in half.

    Overall: 7/10, or 4/5 for the poll, best of the Season so far.
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    Oops, I meant to vote a '4'...dang phone!

    Anyway, I liked the Maggie subplot much more because it was just plain cute. On the other hand, the "smoking" plot was okay, but the eye-bleach scenes were a major WTF?. Probably the best gag regarding Selma was the "Selma" poster in Disco Stu's apartment.


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    This was a decent episode. The subplot was easily the best part but it didn't really fit in with typical HD simpsons. It was still really cute to see Maggie with the animals. The main plot felt rushed and the resolution with Patty and Selma smoking again felt unsatisfying. Then again, they've never been my favourite characters.

    Best moment: Homer and the kids sliding on Grandma's couch. Short, simple scene of them having fun as a family
    Worst moment: The bleach. It was bad enough the first time.

    Overall Rating: 3/5

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    Patty and Selma decide to stop smoking and then they end up smoking again, meanwhile in Maggie's extraordinary animal adventure we see Maggie and her animal friends rescue a possum, this episode made use of characters that are sometimes used or rarely used at all, i like that this episode was more about patty then Selma, the funny part was when homer got in the shower naked in front of patty and then poured bleach in his eyes and than Bart, what i thought was weird was when they did whole car couch gag and then later in the episode they made fun of it, i don't have a negative thing to say about this episode it kept me entertained throughout, the yo-yo ma ending credits song was pretty cool. 5/5

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    Well, this episode was better than I thought it was going to be. Besides J. Stewart Burns being the writer and the plot sounding weak, the majority of the HD episode where Patty and/or Selma haven't been good. Case in point: Opposites A-Frack, Wedding for Disaster and The Real Housewifes of Fat Tony were really bad episodes that did not utilize the characters very well. This episode however was actually pretty good and kind of refreshing since the aforementioned episodes weren't all about Patty and Selma and they haven't gotten their own episode in quite some time. The plot was actually handled well and I liked the whole conflict behind it. Also for once I actually thought Patty and Selma were characterized well and there was a lot more to their characters than just smoking jokes and hating Homer. This episode had it's share of really funny jokes like the couch gag callback, the thought bubble gag which ends up popping and SLH eats up the remains, the Duffman parrot and Comic Book Guy's appearance where he tricks Selma at the DMV. Even the bleach joke which some people seem to hate made me laugh. The subplot with Maggie and the animals was good too, but at the same time it really felt like an excuse for filling out the time although to the episodes credit, the main plot didn't feel underdeveloped. I also liked Spider-Pig's cameo even if it felt fan-servicey, but it was still nice to see him in an actual episode. Also before the episode was over I was wondering if this episode was going to go back to the status quo or if it was going to take the Day of Wine and D'oh'ses route because if it went in that direction it would've been interesting, but of course it went to the easy route although I did like the line "Is this a happy ending?". This episode misses the mark on being a great episode as it does have it's problems, but it's still a surprisingly good episode and I liked it more than Every Man's Dream. 8/10

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    If it wasn't for how I create these rate & reviews myself, I wouldn't even consider reviewing more than just a handful of episodes.
    All right, here we go. Since this doesn't count as a plus or minus for the episode itself, I'll just say it now; Puffless is a god-freakin'-awful title, just a crummy pun on Duffless!

    Puffless 8.5/10

    + The couch gag was funny, especially with Maggie surprisingly not being the small one this time.
    + Finally we see Dr. Nick again! And his line was fairly amusing (although not on par with his truly golden ones): "A baby... An astronaut baby!"
    -- When Marge announces Jaqueline's birthday, Kavner's voice is worse than ever. Damn, no wonder she wants to retire after the show.
    +˝ Okay I'll admit it, I laughed at Homer not remembering where he parked his old car and it being crushed inside of a corn field.
    # As soon as Maggie sees an animal, the animation starts looking slightly different.
    + The moments between Maggie and the squirrel is pretty cute.
    - I thought Homer's reply to his dad why he can't have a juice box was overly mean.
    - "The one thing I can't beat; competition!" seems like the completely wrong reaction from Abraham, considering the two of them already have rivaled over the same gal in Lady Bouvier's Lover. Wouldn't something like "Oh consarn it, not you again!" be more appropriate?
    + Burns is being perfectly subtly evil here: "Not interested, I just don't want you to have her." The guest appearance also didn't feel forced, good job.
    + Bart and Lisa going down on the couch like a slide is nicely child-like.
    + I like how Homer is relieved at first the slideshow Patty and Selma (for the ten-thousandth time) put up doesn't seem to be that lengthy, only for Selma to reveal it's at least 50000 pictures.
    ? The Yo-Yo Diet? What joke am I missing?
    ++ HAPPY ENDING: ASSISTED SUICIDE KIT. That Homer so easily would consider suicide just for a slideshow is hilarious!
    + "We are here to watch old photos, not reminisce!"
    -- Jaqueline doesn't reveal after, I don't know, at least 10 years(???) that Selma and Patty's father died of lung cancer??? That's freakin' STUPID!
    + All right ashamed to admit it, but her reason behind letting them smoke because they looked cool gave me a chuckle.
    # Bart's face looks odd at 05:54.
    - Ah yes, here we go with a rehash from Opposites A-Frack... I only give it one minus point though, since I'm hoping they will execute it better this time and not just make lame smoking jokes.
    + They burn their ciggarettes, but accidentally get the whole house burned down! "Well anyway... Happy birthday."
    +˝ Homer imagining Patty and Selma as fat with the three of them trying to be fatter than the other was so bizarre and surreal I found it really funny.
    ? "A FRIENDSHIP IS FORCED". Uuuh, okay.
    +˝ Duffman's pet suddenly appearing is great too! Seriously, I'm shocked that this episode have so many good jokes.
    + Hans Moleman!!
    + I find it interesting that unlike Opposites A-Frack, Patty and Selma suffer different symptons after having quit smoking. Selma is nicer than ever whereas Patty is grumpy and depressed.
    ++ Comic Book Guy for no apparent reason lying about having an ambulance license was hilarious!
    + I like how Dr. Hibbert follows the "No Smoking" policy... to only a certain extent.
    + "Did you fix the security system?" "It's still broken..." This turns Marge on. Well, over 25 years of marriage after all!
    + Cletus' dog: "I don't understand a word you say."
    - What the fuck? Homer pours bleach in Bart's eyes?!
    +˝ Bart being overly thankful for not having to see Patty blind though
    + "Disco Stu is over you!" We then see a whole collection of Selma-related items, which is just weird, but the Selma poster on the wall referring to the movie with the same name was pretty damn clever.
    - Selma's ciggarette talking could have been chuckleworth if it didn't have such a lousy voice.
    - Christ, why would Homer need to pour bleach in his eyes again if Patty's not even naked anymore.
    # Weird continuity error: this time he doesn't actually go blind.
    ++ What the hell! Homer imagines he and Patty kissing!
    + Selma says to her sister she quit smoking for real, but I already know she's lying. This will be interesting to see how it plays out.
    ++ This subplot with Maggie beginning to grow on me. I liked the quick freeze-frame gag and Spider-Pig showing up to help Maggie was awesome!
    ++ The battle Maggie and the animals has with a guard dog is great too. Especially with the dog's lines; "What did I ever do to you?" "Gimme a break, I just work here!"
    ˝+ Since Cletus lost the possum, his kids have to chew on their fingernails instead. Half-amusing...?
    - Disco Stu's second appearance felt unnecessary. I didn't like his line "Disco Stu is back on Tinder." Oh well, at least it wasn't a "classic" Al Jean parody name like Slinder or Tinger.
    --- Okay, wow. I really hate the forced status quo. I mean, come on! It doesn't even make any sense!
    +/- The ending with Maggie and the animals is way better. However, I wish they didn't refer back to the Hoppy joke.

    This episode was much, much better than the previous two! And not only that, but the first good episode for a very long time (you all probably have noticed how many episodes in my review thread have gotten stunken or mediocre ratings) and it had more laughs than I ever could have imagined it would have. And not just chuckles either, but real laughs! This episode was funny! The plot with Selma and Patty stop smoking was also handled a hell of a lot better than in Opposites A-Frack, since it was taken seriously this time. And was not used for jokes about how they miss smoking (there were some, but definitely not excessive). The subplot with Maggie was also charming and had a few laughs as well. I think she's an overrated character, but she was used very well. Near the end of the episode I was ready to rate it a full 9!
    If not for... the ending. I know it was inevitable they would return to smoking once again, and wouldn't even feel bad about it. But we just saw Patty being proud of Selma for stopping!!! So why the hell do they not at least say something like "We failed, but we tried the best we ever could"? That would have made up for it at least a little! But nooooo, motherfuckin' status quo in the laziest way possible! GOD!
    Fortunately, it still doesn't change the fact that I really liked this episode. It was hilarious. But CHRIST, that ending!!
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    Snowpit liked a HD episode?

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    I know, right? I'm stunned!

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    The bleach gag was the most annoying thing about an otherwise decent episode. Could easily have been substituted for something less extreme - mouthwash maybe - which would have been equally slapstick but less grim. Also the ending would have been more satisfying if it showed Patty and Selma getting more and more desperate for nicotine rather than just casually lighting up. I know it has to go back to the status quo but the writers could have just implied that they would go back. To have them smoke again with almost no issue pretty much invalidates the whole plot. Overall though, I really enjoyed it... haven't seen The Longest Daycare so the Maggie B-plot seemed really fresh to me.

    Hope they do another episode at some point that deals with the death of Marge's dad. Can't believe after all the years (and several incredibly thin plots) they haven't explored this properly.

    7/10

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    For Christ's sake, I didn't even use profanity. Why did a moderator have to change the headline of the poll?

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    Quote Originally Posted by That Don Guy View Post
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    He was the voice of Selma's cigarette.
    well that seems like such a waste



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