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    R&R: Peeping Mom (TABF11)


    Original Airdate: April 19, 2015
    Writer: John Frink
    Director: Mark Kirkland
    Synopsis: Bart lies about being involved in a bulldozer crash, so Marge decides to follow him everywhere until he confesses. Meanwhile, Homer ignores Santa’s Little Helper when Flanders gets a new dog.

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    Apart from a few isolated bits here and there, this was painfully unfunny and relied on twists and turns that came out of nowhere in an already non-linear plot. 2/5 (D-)
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    lmao gotta love how the press release spoiled that bart was lyin. quality stuf

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    + Quick couch gag
    ++ That guy's really fat
    + Guy dancing.
    + Shooting weird thing
    - Dog barking, but mouth not moving.
    + Dog training
    ++ Flashback
    + People reading
    ++ NASL launch party.
    +Eyeball against wall
    +++ AT LONG LAST!!!! AN ORIGINAL PLOT!!!!
    End of act 1, pretty good! 8/10, raised to 8.5/10 for original plot.
    ++ Cute dog!
    - B-plot rip-off of Canine Mutiny.
    -- Stupid gag with cheeseburger.
    + Nelson running.
    + Maggie laughing.
    +++ Hello! Goodbye!
    --- AWFUL mumbling gag!
    + Give me the damn dew!
    ++ Threw Carburetor at skunk.
    ++ Nagging melting bones.
    +++ Bones falling off body.
    End of act 2. Still good. 8/10
    ++ Giving her to santa?
    + Bart's picture.
    + Hasn't been for 3 months.
    + Can't stand to see flanders.
    +++ Tail in butt.
    ++ So it WAS Bart Simpson! Great plot twist!
    ++ Milhouse being hit.
    -- Why did he do FD? That was pretty stupid.
    --- No resolution to either plot?
    End of Act 3! Great act! 9/10!
    +++ Maggie playing Whack A mole
    ++ Cute ending.
    In conclusion, fantastic episode! I might have to give this a 9/10! Would be a perfect 10 if not for the horrendous mumbling gag and lack of plot resolution.
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    So Bart is an asshole brat and Marge is a welcome mat. Great job writers!

    Subplot was decent with a cute ending.


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    Dammit, I accidentally rated the episode a 1/5 when I meant for a 2/5 rating. Any way a mod can change that? The A-plot was uninspired with nothing special about it, but the B-plot was a bit better, though there's still nothing special about it; a few of the jokes that managed to make me smirk or smile was Lisa's line "If he mentions ice cream, I'm going to break", the whole mumbling scene, and the short but cute Whack-a-Mole scene with Maggie. Let's hope for something better next Sunday. I rate it 2/5 on the poll, 3/10 for the sig.
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    I think it was a decent episode.
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    Another decent John Frink episode. The subplot was better than the main plot. Had it's amusing moments. 7/10
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    One of the most enjoyable, funniest and most interesting Simpson episodes of the season. Really big fan of the Lisa elements, the Maggie touches as well, and a lot of the aside dialogue/non-sequiturs were things of beauty. The emotion was strong, Marge very much on-point, and the Flanders clan's scenes were most welcome and nuanced. Cracking work all round.

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    4/5 the new dog is my favorite character


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    This felt like a classic episode at points: a decent A-plot, a decent B-plot and good characterization. A mother in Marge's position must have to grasp at straws sometimes when dealing with a kid like Bart and, seeing as Homer had a kind of standoff with Bart in The Wreck of the Relationship, there is no easy or "right" way to handle it. The animation direction was good here, too. I liked how the characters were drawn in this episode; it felt kind of sloppy and S1-ish for some reason. This episode had some odd moments (a Flanders kid marrying Maggie?), some meta / fan service (the opening sequence with Moe and co. standing in front of the bar, an the return of the S1 stop sign) and some downright cute bits (like ninja Maggie with the pacifier silencer and Homer and Lisa's muttering / bonding moment: "Is there such a thing as happy jazz? I'm gonna write a song..."), but I'm looking forward to re-watching this one.
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    Not completely terrible, was funny hearing Martin Prince again. Oh and Flanders' new dog wasn't a total cunt.

    3/5, 6/10, C+

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    Act 1: Short unique couch gag, cool. Huh, so I guess Bart finally went through with what he tried in Lost Verizon. Randomly laughed at Grandpa's honest congrats to Lisa having the neighbors dog know her name. ...well that was a disturbing cutaway dream. And Marge is being overprotecting mom again, blech.

    Act 2: So Marge is just allowed to stay at the school? Homer and Lisa murmuring was kind of cute. Forgot what episode ninja Bart was from, but nice to see another callback I guess. Dog subplot is kind of useless, but has some decent Flanders scenes. Enjoyed the opening joke. Oh, and now Marge gives up on Bart again, and Bart feels bad, dawwww.

    Act 3: Laughed at Rod's salsa joke. So Bart did steal the bull dowser, what a shock...I guess...I'm not quite sure actually.. Weird read on the chicken line. And then Bart gains a conscience again and makes up with Marge again, dawwww.

    Eh, at least the ending to the dog subplot was alright. Besides a few decent throwaway lines, pretty meh.

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    I got kind of annoyed by Marge in this episode because she kept blaming Bart for doing something that had very little evidence. Yes, it turned out he did do it, but that doesn't excuse her actions. The subplot with the dog was decent, though it didn't seem to do much with the supposed SLH neglect that was mentioned in the synopsis, which weakened the ending with the Homer/SLH reconciliation. The ending to the main plot seemed pretty rushed and hackneyed too. It was a interesting plot, but it could've been done better. 2/5

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    It still doesn't say "Fox Presents" at the beginning of the episode, like it does with the Fox-produced live action shows (Gotham, New Girl, Empire, Backstrom, Sleepy Hollow).

    Lisa calls Barney "Barney" instead of "Mr. Gumble".

    Grampa doesn't eat meat at dinner - which isn't at the dining room table, like it usually is.

    "NASL" usually means something else.

    Scotland has only one song? What about Flower of Scotland, or The Skye Boat Song, or even Auld Lang Syne?

    Bart drinks "Mountain Doo".

    Don't the Simpsons have two cars? Why did Marge need to take a bike?

    The music in the scene with Bart on his skateboard sounds like it comes from the Simpsons arcade video game.

    Aren't some of the letters on the Springfield sign supposed to have words on them?

    So, what happened to Bart? Wait, don't tell me, let me guess; Judge Snyder released him under the legal principle of erunt pueri pueri ("boys will be boys").

    And how many episodes will it take before Baz is referenced again?


    Written by John Frink
    Directed by Mark Kirkland
    No billboard or chalkboard
    Couch: five corn kernels pop into the Simpsons; Homer is somewhat burnt
    Also Starring: Pamela Hayden, Tress MacNeille, Chris Edgerly, Russi Taylor
    Overseas Animation: Rough Draft
    TV Rating: TV-PG-LV


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    It turned out Bart destroyed shit with a bullzozer in the beginning. He didn't own up to what he did and lied/ignored his mother's demands to tell her what happened throughout the whole episode, showing no remorse. He then takes another bulldozer to fuck with the Springfield sign, but his robotic "conscience" gets to him after appreciating the chicken Marge gave him (?), so he still fucks with the sign (crushing the mayor) but it says FD so it's ok. I get it's being played for comedy, but the joke isn't even funny. It's the kind of joke that's maybe funny if it was a quick throw-away gag. Not as a key component for the plot.

    Bart approaches Marge and acts like he did something sweet and Marge replies with a cut-and-paste "You're the best son a mother can ask for!". Bart admits to what he did with the first bulldozer but he hugs her and that makes everything good.

    I'm sorry, but this is unacceptable writing and even if you're a fan of the show in this era, you shouldn't have to put up with it.


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    Tonight's episode kept giving off this sort of "classic lite" feel, which is kinda both a good thing and bad thing at once. Let me explain.

    I think the best part of this episode is how down-to-earth most of it is, especially compared to a lot of other season 26 episodes - at least up until the whole Springfield sign climax, anyway. For me, this especially shows in how effortlessly the episode is able to jump between the two plots - because both are essentially slice-of-life stories set at and around the Simpson house, switching between plots can be as easy as Marge and Bart not talking at the dinner table, followed by a knocking on the door that turns out to be Flanders's dog. The slice-of-life plots also made for some nice little scenes - Lisa and Homer muttering at each other, Homer petting Santa's Little Helper at the end, Santa's Little Helper and Flanders's dog snuggling up...you know, scenes that emulate the classic era's down-to-earth representation of the working-class American family. EDIT: Oh, and Santa's Little Helper and Lisa both going upstairs because they were feeling neglected was a nice convergence of the two plots. (Much better than the Simpsons going to outer space or Homer guiding around a Nigerian princess, anyway.) The emotion wasn't strong, which is par for the course for John Frink, but Flanders giving the dog to Homer and Homer giving the dog back, and Bart hugging Marge at least come closer to a sweet ending than most other Frink episodes. Which I suppose is a success for a Frink script. The pacing is surprisingly good - both plots started within two minutes of the episode starting and both got a satisfactory ending within the episode length (which is 21 minutes - unusually long for a non-Selman HD episode).

    On the other hand, because this episode emulates a "classic lite" feel, it's easy to be reminded of better classic episodes and why this one doesn't shape up compared to those. (Sidenote: I'm very much looking forward to see Dead Homers try to take down this episode, because the best comparison choice for it, Marge Be Not Proud, is a "very special episode" to them.) Marge (almost) leaving Bart in the mud felt like a less subtle, less emotional version of the bedroom tuck-in scene in Marge Be Not Proud; same goes for the reconciliation scenes of both episodes. Though it's worth mentioning that in this episode, Bart's idea of making it up to Marge is to do the prank anyway, but in a way that for some reason reminds everyone of the fire department (I couldn't figure out FD until they brought it up), and that is somehow enough for Marge to forgive Bart. Ideally, Bart could have done something productive with the bulldozer, which, like the ending of Marge Be Not Proud, is sort of a reversal of what he did to get in trouble in the first place (steals from Try 'N Save, buys from Try 'N Save; destroys with a bulldozer, does something good with it).

    Even though there was a little too much religious stuff in it, I thought Flanders's characterization was on point tonight - giving the dog to Homer despite loving it was nice, even if doing so was also to please God. Same with Homer, who plays with the dog but doesn't go too far in trying to spite Flanders. Lisa being won over with ice cream and Maggie's vengeance on the whack-a-mole were good too. As for humor, there wasn't much of it - the opening scene recreation (with the bus stop!) made me laugh, and unless there was something absolutely hilarious in that Mapple store scene I missed, that's about all I can think of right now. Which is a shame because John Frink has delivered some funny stuff in the past - just look at the previous episode. And perhaps they should have put some more thought into the final prank with the bulldozer - FIE and FD...is that really the best wordplay they could come up with?

    Overall, two down-to-earth storylines brought down by a lack of emotion, weak characterization in the end of the A-plot, and very few jokes. 6.5/10, 3/5 for the poll. Somewhere near the bottom of season 26, which says something about how consistent this season has been.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Egg Council Creep View Post
    In conclusion, fantastic episode! I might have to give this a 9.5/10! Would be a perfect 10 if not for the horrendous mumbling gag.
    Are you really going to let one bad joke affect your score? I mean if an episode only has one joke that I didn't find funny then it's not going to affect the score for me as I just feel like it's nitpicking. I mean if you truly feel the joke ruins the episode from being perfect then I won't hold it against you, but it just seems weird to let one joke ruin an episode from getting a perfect score. I didn't even think the mumbling gag was that bad, but that's just me.

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    That was possibly the most confusing plot resolution I've ever seen. Is "FD" supposed to mean something? Apparently, it stood for fire department, which I just thought was Skinner misinterpreting it, but that makes things even more confusing. I mean, why the hell would Marge excuse Bart knocking over the Springfield sign and almost killing Mayor Quimby (and stealing the bulldozer and destroying a bunch of buildings) because he spelled out the initials of "fire department"? And she not only excused it, her response to Bart's nearly negligently homicidal prank was "you're the best boy a mother could want." It was also never explained what happened to Bart after he got arrested. Aside from that, this episode was incredibly insipid. The dialogue and emotion were both unnatural, the plot didn't really seem to go anywhere most of the time and I'll probably forget what happened by tomorrow, the subplot was even more boring and forgettable, Bart was badly characterized, Lisa was consistently annoying (that scene with Homer and Lisa on the bed muttering was especially annoying), and it generally felt like there was just nothing there. Nothing overly offensive by Simpsons standards (poor plot resolutions certainly aren't foreign to the Simpsons), but still a very poor episode. 2/10

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    Erm...It was good until the sign gag, then it fell to shit. Baz was cute and I enjoyed most of it, however, I thought the mumbling joke between Lisa and Homer was one of the better parts of the episode and the reason for Lisa being ill and Maggie vs. the whack-a-mole were the funniest bits.

    In the Simpsons's world, I didn't mind Marge being OCD with keeping tabs on Bart, but the "ending"...umm...wtf? What was the "F D" supposed to mean!?

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    As baffling as the whole "FD" thing was, I interpreted it as Bart intentionally keeping those letters up because they stood for "fire department," and the Springfieldians responding the way Bart intended them to (notice how pretty much everyone think it's "fire department"). It shouldn't have to be this awkward, obviously, but that's how I saw it.

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    This episode is one that I really enjoyed while watching it, but after I let it sink in I started to notice the problems with this episode. The main problem being that Marge just won't shut the fuck up about Bart and the bulldozer. It just keeps on going back and forth and it always ends up with Bart saying he knows nothing about it. It just felt very repetitive. That and there are a few jokes that aren't really funny like Milhouse saying that fie is the worst "F-word". That joke was just so obvious and really forced. The muttering joke was also kind of stupid, but the way it ended was pretty funny. Other than that though it's an enjoyable episode. It does have a good number of really funny jokes even though almost none of them made me laugh that much. The only big laugh I got out of this episode was Todd asking if he can marry Maggie followed by Flanders saying "Stop asking me that!" Another joke that also had me laughing and was one of the more clever jokes of the episode was the pacifier silencer.

    While the main plot was very repetitive at times and the finale to it felt Scully-ish and not in a good way it still wasn't bad, but the episode's real saving grace is the sub-plot. It was very enjoyable to watch and I think the direction that plot went was much more interesting than the main plot. While this the weaker John Frink episode of the two, it's still a pretty enjoyable episode and despite it's flaws it's still an episode I liked watching. 7/10

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    I'm not going to defend that modern Marge isn't annoying, but she has every right to badger Bart about the bulldozer when she saw all those store-fronts destroyed and her own son in handcuffs as the #1 suspect.

    Fuck Bart. He's the one dragging the plot down, not Marge.


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    It was meh.

    Cute Flanders dog, Maggie and her whack a mole, Lisa and Homer bonding

    I just didn't understand why Marge got so mad when Bart had kinda proved he wasn't lying, even if he wasn't. And that FD thing.

    John Frink is a pretty good writer. He's had a shot in the dark and come close to the classic era.
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    A solid three... slightly derivative of other Marge/Bart plots; some corny jokes; some that even fell flat.

    But overall fun to watch. Three all the way.

    EDIT: Modern Marge is not annoying. She's always nagged at her kids and husband. If it ever seems as if she's written more 'annoying' than she was before, it's likely because the writers are trying to strike a balance between keeping her in-character while having the writing reflect modern parenting techniques. Helicopter parenting is normal now; stay-at-home mothering is less common, and Marge now has to fill two roles from different decades. Anyway, while it might have been somewhat-lazy parenting that was being parodied in the late 80's and early 90's, now it's the opposite style getting jabs for being over-practised.

    I'm just saying... it's not easy for her!
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    The muttering scene seems pretty polarizing. I didn't like it; it was really annoying and went on for too long. It felt par for the course for the HD era, and I'm not sure what people saw in it.

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    I found this episode quite good, it did have some flaws but for modern standards I appreciate the dynamics between Marge/Bart and even some Homer/Lisa. I didn't think the couch gag was anything special (why was Homer the only one getting burned?), atleast its short and not too stupid.

    The episode starts with someone who is kind of an asshole to Marge, the guy did seem really fat for his posture. This scene was pretty stupid but atleast it had no bad (M)apple jokes. The episode was then quick to dive into the main plot where apparently Bart already used the bulldozer to wreck a.... bulldozer store. Chief Wiggum did accuse Bart while he had absolutely nothing to use against him, so why he accused Bart of doing it is probably because of his history of causing trouble on a huge scale. Marge apparently feels the same, and while there's no evidence she's convinced that Bart did it after all. Then we get quick look at the subplot, which turned out pretty good after all, which isn't that common for HD episodes. Now this is a joke I didn't get, when the dog went to Todd sitting on his lawnchair with a ''Church Fair'' balooon, Barney shows up and says ''finally, a religion that makes sense!''. What am I missing here?

    I liked how Marge worried about spilling some ice on the ground. The scene during dinner was pretty fun, but the eyeball popping out from Bart during a flashforward didn't quite suit me. So now Marge starts to look after Bart all the time, and apparently only Otto finds it weird that Marge is coming with them on the bus. The jokes with Marge watching Bart where hit & miss, hit in the classroom and miss in the tube on the playground. I liked how in the next dinner scene, Lisa is feeling left out by both Homer (who is showing some interest in Ned's dog) and Marge (who's only watching Bart). Its a silly little sub-sub-plot (or whatever you like to call it) which ends with a funny mumbling communicating scene.

    The scene with Bart at Millhouses secret place didn't do much for me, though I liked the scene with Marge chasing down Bart during a ''couch gag'' version of his daily routine. Apparently people where aware Bart is about to arrive so they just stay outside of Moe's? Gotta admit I liked how Bart resisted against Marge, its actually great characterisation for a 10-year old kid that does the exact same thing to their parents. That ''joke'' that çame afterwards... with the hobo stealing Bart's boat and losing both arms... WTF was that? How did they think this stupid FG-esque joke would be any good? Even worse is that a 10-year old boy is witnissing it... this is the kind of thing that the Simpsons just should avoid doing.

    So now the 3rd act starts with Bart planning on destroying letters from the Springfield sign, first of all I kinda liked how the subplot ended with Homer feeling bad for Flanders and giving his dog back. It actually felt like a classic moment, something this show is just missing these days. A great ending to a solid subplot, thats for sure. So yeah I don't get this ''FD'' solution either, its hard to say Bart knew that the Springfielders would see it as fire department. And apparently the Springfielders don't care that almost all the letters just fell down, well they somewhat do by arresting Bart at the end. Who also finally admitted that he was the one wrecking the bulldozer store. There was a really sweet Marge/Bart moment though, its just surrounded by sillyness.

    The episode ends with Lisa telling Marge that she should've kept a better eye on her other kids, I liked how this episode had some solid Maggie moments including the whack-a-mole incident. A good SLH/Ned's dog ''showdown'' with the music from The Good, The Bad and The Ugly at the end.

    So overall, its a good episode that also has its shares of flaws. Both plots are solid, its hard to tell which one is better. I believe that we really needed another Marge/Bart episode which was way overdue, and I'd say they delivered. Marge did overreact not trusting Bart, but with a troublemaker like Bart... you'd say it was needed. The Homer/Lisa dynamic was short and sweet, and the other Simpsons like Grampa, Maggie and SLH got some really good moments. The real downsides of this episodes are some of the overtop silly moments, and the dreadfull hobo scene.

    3.5/5, rounded to a 4/5 in the poll.
    Episodes rated best and worst from each season:
    1: Krusty Gets Busted/Homer's Night Out 2: The Way We Was/Bart's Dog Gets an F 3: Colonel Homer/Dog of Death 4: Marge vs. The Monorail/So It's Come to This: A Simpsons Clip Show 5: Cape Feare/Bart Gets An Elephant 6: Treehouse of Horror V/Another Simpsons Clip Show 7: Mother Simpson/Homerpalooza 8: You Only Move Twice/The Canine Mutiny 9: Lisa's Sax/The Two Mrs. Nahasapeemapetilons 10: Lisa Gets an A/Sunday Cruddy Sunday 11: Behind The Laughter/Beyond Blunderdome 12: Trilogy of Error/The Computer Wore Menace Shoes 13: I Am Furious Yellow/Homer the Moe 14: The Dad Who Knew Too Little/Large Marge 15: The Way We Weren't/Diatribe of a Mad Housewife 16: Thank God Its Doomsday/Mommie Beerest 17: Marge's Son Poisoning/Bonfire of the Manatees 18: Marge Gamer/Revenge is Best Served Three Times 19: Treehouse of Horror XVIII/That 90's Show 20: Gone Maggie Gone/Coming To Homerica 21: O Brother, Where Bart thou?/The Devil Wears Nada 22: Homer Scissorhands/The Fool Monty 23: Holidays of Future Passed/Moe Goes From Rags To Riches 24: Adventures In Baby-Getting/Whiskey Business 25: Brick Like Me/White Christmas Blues 26: Bart's New Friend/The Musk Who Fell to Earth

    Season ranking: 3 > 6 > 5 > 4 > 7 > 8 > 2 > 1 > 10 > 9 > 15 > 13 > 12 > 14 > 16 > 20 > 22 > 11 > 17 > 19 > 26 > 25 > 24 > 23 > 18 > 21

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    This episode was about Bart doing something wrong and marge finding out about it by following him and Flanders gets a new dog named baz, this episode wasn't really funny or really interesting besides Flanders dog but the nasl joke was okay, in conclusion it was okay. 2/5

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    I challenge the AV Club to review a season 26 episode without kicking off with a paragraph about how old the series is, or what season we're in.
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