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    R&R: Sky Police (TABF09)

    Chief Wiggum is mistakenly delivered a military jet pack, which he gleefully accepts and uses in order to fight crime. But when the jet pack crashes into the church, the congregation, led by Marge, must resort to gambling and counting cards in order to collect money to repair the church.

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    I would say this is probably the best episode of the season and best from Selman this season by far. Yes, it's a bit like the Book Job episode but whatever. Nice to see so much Lovejoy and Apu. Good well-told story, with some genuinely funny moments (Homer's interest in the revue and his lyrics to Cats & Dogs, Wiggum's Sky Police song and end credits, etc). Good episode overall. Nothing amazing but better than a lot of the sloppy storytelling seen in the past few episodes.
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    ACT ONE:

    The montage is okay I guess.

    Is it just me or does the whole "jet pack" thing feel like Scully era Homer?

    Oh, so we're rehashing season 13 now?

    Actually, I think this is better than She of Little Faith so far. Well, in he sense that it has characters that have reason to be there instead of Burns just popping out of nowhere.

    I do like the reference to the past joke of Ned thinking insurance is a form of gambling.

    ACT TWO:

    Uh... why would Marge outright tell the kids about the casino? She could have just used that hostess excuse.

    Also, how did the casino guys even find Homer? Did they break into his house and kidnap him? How did they even know Homer was the husband of one of the card counters?

    ACT THREE:

    LOL @ Homer burping "whaaaat?"

    Okay, that answers that end of act two question, but still... you can't make plot twists that confusing.

    And the plot gets resolved by that random guy (who sounds like Tina Belcher. Wonder if that's Dan Mintz?) who comes out of nowhere and is only there because the time is up.

    OVERALL:

    It was pretty good, but those plot farts made me mark it down a few points. 3/5 (C+)

    Oh, and I found out that it's actually Nathan Fielder, not Dan Mintz. At least I correctly guessed it was a Bob's Burgers VA.
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    stray thoughts i wrote down while it was airing

    ep is rated TV-PG DLSV

    wiggum killed two innocent children

    i do like wiggum's child-like love for the jetpack

    act of god gag was pretty good

    man agnes sounds literally nothing like she used to and nothing like tress tbh

    marge's hair being down was just a wig... she takes it off to reveal the usual bee-hive. lmao

    if anything happens to marge we'll all be orphans

    yeah not a lot to say... zoned out about half-way through but what i saw was decent. 3/5?
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    Yeah, not Steal This Episode.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alias Fakename View Post
    Yeah, not Steal This Episode.
    We've only heard from four people so far. You never know.

    Though I called that this episode wouldn't be the next Steal This Episode on the wall.

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    harmless. a few farts but some good gags (apu whispering prolly my fav). nathan fielder sounded half-asleep which was kinda distracting. 3.5/5 cause i'm generous and it held my attention.

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    Not sure what you all liked about it, I thought it was awful. the plot was weird and really went nowhere, and nothing was really funny. It just seemed like a stupid episode overall. 1/5, possibly worst of the season.
    Rest assured that I was on the Internet within minutes, registering my disgust throughout the world.

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    It was as good as a classic era episode--er, wrong thread.

    It was okay, i guess. The best scene was when Marge showed up and Tim was still in costume and the worst part was the stupid heathen sun eating guy at the end.

    3/5

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    Probably the best of the season so far. The first two acts were great, and I Ioved Wiggum's little song. I thought we would see more of the jetpack, though. It was nice to see the secondary characters get a lot of screentime, and the plot was unique and not reminiscent of $pringfield at all. It lost a little steam after it showed Homer tied up; the jokes weren't as frequent, and it wasn't quite as interesting overall. I did not like the Lovejoy sexual roleplaying scene, either. But overall, this was a strong episode and worthy of a 4/5.

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    ? No intro?
    + Stuffers Lasagna
    + Clancy Wiggins
    ++ Wiggum crashing stuff
    + People getting crushed.
    -- Pretty poor song.
    + The wind beneath my ass
    + In a diaper
    + Please give can
    ++ MIT
    + NASCAR car in the background
    + Beat with a phonebook
    End of act 1, lots of jokes, but none laugh out loud. 7/10, pushed to 7.5/10 by no unrelated first act.
    ++ Cardboard cutout
    +++ Atheist Strip Club
    + Hans Moleman dancing.
    -- Turning into a ripoff of She Of Little Faith and $pringfield.
    + Margerita.
    -- Pretty dumb fight.
    - Marge's voice sounded bad.
    +++ Money gag hilarious!
    End of act 2, few funny jokes, but the ones that are are great. However, that is only 4. 6/10
    + Marge vomiting
    + Homer in vice
    --- Marge's voice sounded like Patty and Selma!
    --- What the hell was that?
    End of act 3, that was an AWFUL AWFUL AWFUL act! 1/10!
    - Pointless ending.
    Wow! I thought Bart's New Friend and Walking Big And Tall were bad, but this takes the cake for absolutely awful! Easily the worst episode of the year. I can only give this a 4.5/10!
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    5/5 This episode was the best thing to happen to me all day. I was both Hurt-and-Healed by the "Sky Polenzi" <-thats a good thing!


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    Also, this completely retcons Apu's past. In Much Apu About Nothing, he said that he graduated from Calcutta Univesity as the top student in his class of seven million.

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    *makes sarcastic quip about how The Simpsons never violates continuity*

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    Quote Originally Posted by Irvine View Post
    *makes sarcastic quip about how The Simpsons never violates continuity*
    It's like the writers want the fans to forget everything in the first 10 seasons never happened.

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    That's got to be a first, naming an episode after something that isn't even part of the main plot. Anyway, the episode started out badly with the sky police stuff. It was too cartoony, and the manner in which the church was destroyed was oddly reminiscent of She of Little Faith. But once the main plot started, the episode really picked up. The church council going into the world of sin and vice, even though that is contrary to their values, as a means by which to rebuild the church is one of the most interesting concepts the show has done in a while. And it was done reasonably well, with Ned and the Lovejoys' reactions to their "new" surroundings being pretty entertaining (new in quotation marks because of Viva Ned Flanders, which also did this kind of thing, but this seems different enough because Ned is not with an immoral person like Homer). Homer getting kidnapped seemed tacked on, but how it was tied in as a consequence to the church council's "immoral" behaviour made up for that somewhat. I also liked the prayer stuff at the end, even though it did come of as a little preachy. I imagine it would have seemed even more preachy to someone who is religious and prays often, but I'm not religious and I have never prayed before so what Marge has to say about prayer doesn't affect me anyway. I still would have preferred it not being said explicitly. Overall, this was a pretty fresh (after the main plot got going) and relatively entertaining episode by modern standards, with a relatively well done, coherent message. The sky police stuff hurt it a bit, though, as did Homer's kidnapping and its lazy resolution (it could have been resolved in a way that made more sense) and a few other moments that I didn't like very much. Still probably the best episode of the season, and maybe even the best episode since Dangers on a Train. 6/10

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    Quote Originally Posted by Insanity Pepper View Post
    That's got to be a first, naming an episode after something that isn't even part of the main plot.
    wasn't lastest gun in the west about a dog chasing bart??

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    By and large, this was a very good character-driven episode.

    Edit: In reference to the quote @Patches O'houlihan pointed out (Marge's speech near the end of Sky Police), she makes a great (if not all-too-coincidental) reference to The Simpsons Game. In it, it's implied at the very end that God made Earth as a video game. The instruction booklet Bart found at the beginning of The Simpsons Game was dropped from Heaven by the Big Man Upstairs himself.
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    I thought Marge referred to God as the Sky Police.


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    Sky Police is: Wiggum with the jet pack, the casino security cameras, and God. So the episode's title was about everything, not just Wiggum.
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    A good episode. Favorite part was homer's questioning of why counting cars would be wrong.

    I did find it interesting that it was titled sky police, when the wiggum scenes only lasted about two minutes. The lastest gun in the west started with a dog chasing bart, then went into the main plot. If that episode were titled "dog chases bart," then it would be like this episode title. So I think I agree that this could be a first - naming an episode after something totally different from the main plot. I'd love to hear if simpsons historians know of an episode that was titled as weird as this was. Sky police sounds like the name of a short, but wold be justified if the whole episode was about wiggum and the jetpack.

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    Guys... I just explained that Sky Police has a triple meaning in the episode. It's not just Wiggum.

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    how are the casino security cameras the "sky police"? it seems pretty clear the title is after the wiggum stuff... and i guess some of the main plot SORTA ties into it but when you have a friggin song called "sky police" it seems obvious to me... but whatever

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    Well this episode was pretty decent. It had some decent humor and for the first time in a while it didn't have shit pacing and had some non forced emotion.And we haven't really seen the religious side of Marge in a long time so that was nice, granted I really don't get why the casino just let Homer go. Oh and that dumb monkey God thing at the end was pretty damn unneeded, can't they just let an episode end on a nice quite note?

    3/5
    Well this season has had 2 decent episodes this season so that's better then the past few seasons.

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    I noticed at AVClub, it seems everyone is complaining that nobody mentioned Marge's gambling problem in the episode. I, on the other hand, totally thought Lisa's concern that Marge specifically was gambling, was a pretty obvious call-out to her gambling history. The other common complaint is Wiggum killing the two people from above. I forgave that because it seemed like that whole montage was basically a fantasy sequence, like the opening credits to a fake TV show.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tomacco View Post
    I noticed at AVClub, it seems everyone is complaining that nobody mentioned Marge's gambling problem in the episode.
    Actually, Homer sort of did, but Marge replied, "It's not gambling - it's math!"


    The card counting story is probably based on The Church Team, the subject of the documentary Holy Rollers: The True Story of Card Counting Christians.

    They never say where the casino is located.

    Fat Tony is on a wanted poster in the police headquarters, but he's also one of the prison escapees.

    Brigadier General Wiggins had four stars. An actual Brigadier General only has one star.

    "What percentage of prayers really come true?" Why, 100%, of course, according to the season 14 episode "Pray Anything."

    Lisa's Sunday dress is pretty much the same color as the car.

    The "Sky Police" plot lasted three minutes, not including the closing credits. I can see it now: Sky Police! - Fridays on Fox, after Mind Quad, because, dammit, we need to show something to fill Glee's time slot.

    When Homer eats his steak, the sides of the pieces he is eating suddenly turn to fat.

    Why would they hold Homer? He did nothing wrong, and the casino opened itself up to a kidnapping charge.

    Actually, there are two surefire ways of stopping card counters in their tracks; shoes with 5+ decks in them, and only paying 6-5 instead of 3-2 on blackjacks.

    If you want real stories of card counting and "being backed off", try the Wizard of Vegas site's forum - tell 'em That Don Guy sent you. (Yes, that's my screen name there as well.)

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    If nothing else, Selman's episodes are ambitious - and we saw a lot of that tonight. The pacing is noticeable right off the bat; even the unrelated Sky Police bit established the main conflict naturally and fairly quickly. Had this been a Jean episode, we'd still be in the couch gag by then. Sidenote: did anyone else see Sammy Hagar escape from prison in the Sky Police montage? Always great to see the attention to detail in Selman episodes. In contrast to Selman's other efforts this season (The Wreck of the Relationship and Covercraft), the supporting characters were used really well tonight; instead of forming a bland background for the main characters to interact, all of the card counters brought something to the table, whether it was the comedic relief or their opinion on the whole moral issue of card counting explored in this episode. I'm especially partial to the use of Apu as the head card counter - not only does it make the formulation of the card counting plan more natural (Apu wants Springfield back in church, and he's got a math background - see 40,000 digit of pi, so he introduces the premise of the episode), it clearly establishes two sides of the card counting issue: we have Apu, the...miscellaneous, who supports card counting as math, and the Christian people, who go back and forth on the moral implications of card counting. As the plan goes forward, all the characters contribute to exploring the morals of card counting: Lovejoy pretty much supports it the whole way through as a way to rebuild his church, Flanders supports it as a way to get his church back but ends up seeing it as a sin at the end, Marge supports it until it gets to Homer, making her feel guilty, and Agnes I guess has no qualms because money. The whole card counting montage in the second act was nicely executed (with Apu's narration and everything), but where were the jokes? I don't think there was a single real laugh in this episode. Which is really disappointing because with a fresh new casino environment and some fairly underused characters (compared to the rest of the HD era, anyway), there was some real potential for humor. Though the montage was surprisingly compelling anyway: Homer's kidnapping might be the best act break of the HD era. It sets up a genuine conflict integral to the story that's open-ended (i.e. nothing overly predictable). The third act kind of fizzles out the energy from the second act, but it's still decent: again, I liked how Lovejoy and Flanders each pitched in their two cents on the issue of Homer's kidnapping. Marge praying in the casino kind of came out of nowhere, but I suppose it functioned as a resolution to the story (albeit a rather lame one; celebrity guest comes in and Homer's just released). Bum's Rush-a-Tron callback was all right. Oh, and Bart and Lisa fighting over who gets to tell Marge about what happened at school was pretty great - nice to see them act like teenagers again.

    Overall - solid effort that was surprisingly compelling but also disappointing humorless. Always good to see more of Selman's deeper episodes (in this case, looking at the morality of casinos/religion): if nothing else, it makes me feel smarter that I'm watching and analyzing this stuff. Good stuff: not Selman's A-game, but good. Eh...8.5/10? (high 4/5 for the poll)


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    Quote Originally Posted by Tomacco View Post
    I noticed at AVClub, it seems everyone is complaining that nobody mentioned Marge's gambling problem in the episode.
    Matt Selman acknowledged it during his live tweet of the episode:



    Quote Originally Posted by That Don Guy View Post
    The card counting story is probably based on The Church Team, the subject of the documentary Holy Rollers: The True Story of Card Counting Christians.
    Selman mentions the movie 21, which also uses the system of small wagers everywhere and big wagers on favorable tables. The main character hopes to go from MIT to Harvard, much like Apu's goal to get into the real MIT.



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    Well, this episode was exactly what I was expecting it to be. After one Selman episode that was good, but not great and two sub-par Selman episodes we finally get one that's him on top of his game. If only we've gotten this episode at the beginning of the season instead of now, but it doesn't matter that much. Now I want to start this off by saying that this is not the She of Little Faith re-hash that people will inevitably make it out to be. While the way the church was destroyed in both of these episodes are pretty similar no doubt about that, but the church being destroyed was a small part of She of Little Faith. In this episode it's a huge part of the plot and the way they get it fixed is different. Again a plot point from another episode =/= re-hash. I'd say this episode is more like a combination of $pringfield and The Book Job with a little bit of She of Little Faith mixed in and that actually made for a great episode. The way the plot of this episode was executed very well and a lot of the jokes were hilarious. The funniest parts of the episode was the whole Sky Police scene, Apu setting up what a casino is like with the room smelling like smoke and cardboard cut-outs and Helen Lovejoy's line "Is that a woman's voice I hear? Send her in." followed by Marge vomiting. Also it appears that this episode parodies the movie 21 and just like The Book Job this is another example of parody on this show done right.

    This episode isn't really perfect and I was a little dissapointed that there wasn't more of the Sky Police plot in this episode besides the first two minutes and the ending, but it's still a great episode and it's the Selman episode that we have all been waiting for. 9/10

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    I really liked this episode and found it very enjoyable. The plot itself, being about the church getting destroyed and the church council turning to casino card scamming to get money for repairs after getting the advice (and help) from Apu, was fun and quite interesting & possibly one of the better church-centric storylines on the show; it started out kinda similar to She Of Little Faith (episode starting with a separate plot which ends with an incident that leads to the church getting it) but it quickly became it own separate story and felt fresh with the council actually turning towards gambling, which they previous opposed, to get the money they need and it worked well, especially with the involvement of the various secondary characters like Apu, Sideshow Mel and Reverend Lovejoy & I also liked the conflict towards the end and it's solution (Homer getting captured by casino security to force Marge to give back the money the group scammed and having to resort to praying when the money is already invested, leading to Homer being set free after Marge's praying interrupted their business). As for the titular Sky Police thing, the whole opening with Chief Wiggum getting his mits on the huge jetpack and becoming Sky Police was really goofy but a fun lead-in to the main story (I also liked the comic-booky follow-up to it during the credits); I have to say that what @Captain Squid pointed out about the title referring to it as well as the possible involvement of God and the casino security cameras is interesting and would make some sense.

    There was a bunch of nice jokes and gags throughout, none of them hilarious but at least amusing and pretty funny and I to be honest, I don't think any of them really bombed even though some were weaker than the others, such as the unnecessary end gag when Marge and Homer are watching the sunset by the church and a giant Hanuman (the monkey god Apu talked about earlier in the episode) appearing, which wasn't terrible but not that good. The pacing was really good and nothing felt rushed, even wih the three minute Sky Police lead-in, and I guess a big reason of why it worked was the omission of the intro minus the start with the clouds. The guest star of the episode was Nathan Fielder (another celeb who I'm not familiar with) and I guess he did a good job as his character (the casino CEO guy who confronts Marge, I presume) but I think that the character could have been voiced by a regular instead as he didn't really bring anything special to the table. All in all, it was a very solid and above average episode which had an overall very good, interesting concept for a plot which played out well in the final product and some good humor here and there; it wasn't a great episode but as far as the modern episodes go, it succeeded nicely. Good job again, Selman.

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