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    Rate and Review: "Labor Pains" (RABF19)


    November 17, 2013: While trapped in an elevator Homer helps a woman deliver her baby who she gratefully names Homer Jr. Homer then gets emotionally attached to the little guy. Meanwhile Lisa is recruited to be a cheerleader. Discuss!

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    ACT ONE:

    Heh, I liked the couch gag with the Mayflower being the sailboat painting.

    I liked Homer putting bacon into the banana peel.

    So, who's apartment are they at, exactly? I'm guessing Lenny's, but it would be nice to get an explanation.

    The birth scene was a bit disturbing, with how quick and clean it was. But I guess showing it realistically would be worse.

    So, how to Homer and Gretchen know each other's names? Did they even introduce each other?

    ACT TWO:

    The subplot with Lisa and the cheerleaders is pretty boring and doesn't seem to be going anywhere.

    How the hell are all those cheerleaders able to fit comfortably in that tiny treehouse?!

    The plot twist with Marge thinking Homer is having an affair had potential, but was unfortunately hurt by some really lame dialogue.

    ACT THREE:

    This act was really bad.

    Were the cheerleaders staying with the Simpsons? Even if they're on strike, don't they still have their own houses? Also, the subplot didn't really end.

    Wow, for a baby who is maybe a week old, HoJu can do a lot. Stand on his own, and push a stroller on his own? What a fantastic baby!

    The ending was kinda sweet, but it didn't really earn it.

    OVERALL:

    Meh, same old, same old. 3/5 (C)
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    Another blah episode, probably weaker than last week actually as it had no real laugh out loud moments at all for me. Felt like it was just going through the motions quite a bit. I did like the Itchy and Scratchy and the "ms" as hair during the montage. The new characters had no personality so I really couldn't bring myself to care much about them, not even the baby as cute as the design was. The Milhouse heckling was probably the only good thing about the subplot. 2/5


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    The apartment was Carl's, I think it's the same one as seen in "The Saga of Carl". Really enjoyed tonight's episode. Best of the season. Solid A plot, B plot wasn't as one note as I thought it would be, and there was even a C plot involving the poker games. I liked how the plots would intersect at times, and how Homer didn't even know the B plot was going on until the cheerleading credits. Funny episode, a bit of heart. 4/5

    Btw, The Simpsons theme revealed to be a tune Grandpa sang Homer as a kid? Explains why Homer and other family members have hummed the theme in the past.
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    I didn't really feel much in this episode. There wasn't anything really funny in it, and I couldn't feel much emotion. I think Moe Baby Blues took this angle with a lot more humor and emotion. The subplot was nothing special either. Not much else to say. Gretchen was a pretty bland character as well. 2/5.


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    Excellent episode. some failed jokes, but the story was very interesting.


    Things I liked:
    Homer Jr.
    Itchy & Scratchy short
    Homer playing Tapped Out
    most jokes

    Things I didn't like:
    Marge
    some jokes
    Homer Jr being evil


    Also where did Marge come from at the zoo?

    I noticed Dave Mirkin and Mike Reiss were both producers for this ep.


    Rating: 4.5/5 = 5/5



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    Second best this season. The story was handled well and the hit to miss joke ratio better than the other episodes this season. Fortunately they didn't go down the road of Marge thinking Homer was having an affair and yeah the baby pushing the stroller was stupid. But Homer was surprisingly well written.

    3/5

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    I had to miss a good chunk of the episode, but I have mixed feelings about what I saw. I'm going to have to watch again soon uninterrupted and, to toss things up a little, I think I'm going to do a podcast review.

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    2/5 It's modern mediocrity! Wow, that ending was just bad. Lots of jokes fell flat, but I did enjoy the Patty/Selma/Cat Lady cheerleading scene. Lol


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    Better than the past two weeks, but still not that good. Homer taking care of Hoju seemed out of character, considering how much attention he pays to his own kids. I guess he does that out of compassion for Gretchen or something, who, by the way, is kind of a bitch. She basically manipulates Homer into taking care of her baby by implying that her boyfriend left her, even though he is just serving in the military. I also found the scene in the elevator lacking, since you would expect a woman giving birth to be in a bit more pain that that. She barely even screamed (if she did at all. I can't remember). Marge also seemed out of character, as usual. None of her reactions seemed appropriate to me (for example, she seemed like more of a bitch after Homer explained that he delivered the baby in the elevator than when she thought Homer had a baby with another woman). As for the subplot, I didn't care for it at all. More annoying activist Lisa crap. 3/10


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    I didn't watch it on accounta boardwalk empire.

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    this episode was meh and borderline sucked it had some heart to it but every joke (except the Milhouse heckling ones) SUCKED. A 2/5 also that mayflower couchgag or at least the boat was poorly animated. The boat looked SO flat..
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    The subplot was pretty cringeworthy, but the main plot was excellent. It had the perfect balance of storytelling, humor, emotion, and characterization. I just want to know what they were thinking when they thought of that subplot. 4/5

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    I managed to catch a new episode for once because of its late start. Overall, I was pleasantly surprised by it, in a "Moe Baby Blues" kind of way. It seems like a surefire way to win the audience's sympathy (at least for me) is to let an asshole take care of a baby. It's actually kind of sad in a way that it would take Homer having to bond with another baby (as opposed to Maggie) to achieve this. They did have "And Maggie Makes Three," which was mostly flashback, but this seems to be the first time we've really seen an emphasis on the paternal, gentle side of Homer's fatherhood. After over 20 years of ups and downs with Homer's attitude, seeing his softer side is very endearing.

    The whole dynamic with Homer and Marge was handled pretty well too, as it could have very easily gone into a melodramatic misunderstanding plot for a couple of acts. But they keep it generally brief, letting Marge express some concern and suspicion for a couple of scenes, and then moving on. The return of the woman's boyfriend was a fairly predictable development, but it was one of the few places this story could realistically go. When he did return, it did served as a nice reminder of how odd and messed up the whole situation was to begin with. I definitely could have done without that whole zoo scene, however... The whole "Maggie in peril" angle they did seemed to be raising the stakes for the sake of it, and I feel they could've underlined the Homer/Maggie connection without having to go to those lengths. Maggie, much like Lisa, is a very emotive character, so it wouldn't have taken much time or work to emphasize how she feels about the situation.

    Also, nice callback with the Hoju thing. Amazing to think a joke literally from 20 years ago can resurface like this.

    I'll give the cheerleader plot a pass, if only because I was really really really worried that it was going to become a "Lisa wants to be a cheerleader" story at first when she was shaking those pompoms on the field. Turning it into a story about a labor dispute and exploitation is very much in Lisa's wheelhouse. It was also interesting to see a character like Lisa interact with a large group of cheerleaders... It's obviously not her kind of crowd, so they served as a nice foil for her.

    Joke were really solid overall. Not a single one was particular cringe-worthy and there was a general snappiness overall. Maaaaaybe they went back to the Carl's-poker-party well one too many times, but that's about it.

    4/5. Good job, Simpsons.

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    I heard it was don Payne's last episode but it was good I liked it.

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    this ones for don Payne everybody thanks for all the memorable episodes.


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    Quote Originally Posted by dman360 View Post
    I heard it was don Payne's last episode but it was good I liked it.
    There's 1 more episode written by him after this, White Christmas Blues. Will post a full review of this episode tomorrow. All I'll say is, it was bad, really boring, obnoxious, and bad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MashedPotatoKiller View Post
    A 2/5 also that mayflower couchgag or at least the boat was poorly animated. The boat looked SO flat..
    The boat looked flat because it was supposed to look like the sailboat picture above the Simpson family's couch.

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    3/5 - it looks like something I've seen hundreds of times before (and I know this is probably the (hundreds - 1)st time I've said that).

    Written by Don Payne & Mitchell H. Glazer
    Directed by Matthew Faughnan
    Billboard: MONDAY NIGHT FOOTBALL AT MOE'S - The screen is now clean!
    Blackboard: ROCKTOBER IS NOT FOLLOWED BY BLOWVEMBER
    Couch: Pilgrim Simpsons are driven from England onto the Mayflower (which looks like the boat in the painting over the couch) and sail to Plymouth Couch
    Special Guest Voice: Elisabeth Moss
    Also Starring: Pamela Hayden, Tress MacNeille, Chris Edgerly
    Overseas Animation: Akom
    TV Rating: TV-PG-DLSV

    Lisa reads "Pretending to Like Football" by Mrs. John Madden. Yes, John Madden is married. (I wonder if she rides on airplanes...)

    Carl'a apartment building is at 189 Bridge Street (the address is on the elevator license).

    I realize this is the joke, but the man in the elevator was not there when Gretchen got on.

    According to the headline on the newspaper, the Springfield Tire Fire started 20 years ago.

    Homer is playing "The Simpsons Tapped Out."

    Doesn't Springfield play anybody besides Shelbyville in football?

    The Gulp & Blow appears - how long has it been since the last time that happened?

    "Tumbling Fails with the Springfield Atomettes" is "in memory of Britney Jones."

    This isn't the first time a marching band version of the theme has been used at the end, but this one is different from the earlier one.

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    I absolutely loved this episode. Seeing an episode like this when you've become accustomed to the show mostly being bullshit now makes it even sadder that Don Payne is dead. Consistently funny throughout with a very nice bit of heart. Can't say I cared much for Homer Jr. trying to get rid of Maggie though. 4/5
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    It's passable. Some good jokes again, plot was interesting till the end, but Lisa plot was boring as always. 3/5.

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    The main plot was great, but the subplot was boring.

    4/5 best episode this season

    Season 25: Homerland 2/5, Treehouse of horror XXIV 3/5, Four regrettings and a funeral 3/5, Yolo 3/5, Labor Pains 4/5

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    Overall, one of Season 25's best episodes, many things such as the storyline to humor to references of The Simpsons TV show themselves are executed so well... except maybe the subplot. The subplot was okay because it didn't ruin the episode or anything and didn't felt boring at all.

    Season 25 so far...
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    Treehouse of Horror XXIV... 4/5 (Great)
    Four Regrettings and a Funeral... 3/5 (Okay)
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    Labor Pains... 4/5(Great)

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    Good episode, there were some good jokes and some good sight gags.

    It was good to see the show make fun of Tapped Out and the best joke in the episode was Lisa saying 'How by size, brand, value and don't even suggest race because I don't see that. I just see little people I own' I think the joke was even more funny because it was Lisa saying it.
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    I really loved Homer taking care of Homer Jr. That gets a crowning moment of heartwarming.

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    Boring episode. Not horrendous but still pretty bad. There were only a few laughs and some chuckles but nothing much more. The new characters were pretty much like the typical Jean-era one-time characters (a bad thing) it was nice too see Itchy And Scratchy again i guess but still very blah. Grade: D

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    Just watched this. Surprisingly decent, although the subplot could have been a lot better and there weren't a lot of laughs, while it dragged at times.

    3/5, 6/10 C+ is fair.

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    Main Plot had some fantastic moments and very memorable ones too. Homer seemed great this episode, he was kind and caring yet Marge felt too naggy and urgh, that sub-plot was just god-awful.
    I wish this was an episode with no sub-plot and just focused on Hoju (FANTASTIC reference to classic Simpsons btw).

    The tapped-out joke was a great knock to themselves and the guy being in the elevator the whole time was hilarious.

    It had some actual decent emotion, some pretty strong laughs and really good pacing but all the inbetween points were just boring.

    I didn't enjoy it as much as YOLO but I appreciated what they were trying to do with this episode more so I'll give it a 3.5, 4 for the poll.
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    Suprisingly a very good episode, probably the best of the season so far. Slightly better than Yolo, and about just as good as Homerland.

    The main plot was very well done. The newer characters (Gretchen and her husband) were pretty bland but the episode didn't have the time to show more of them, since it needs to focus on Homer, Marge and Homer junior. I also didn't like how the scene in the elevator where she delivered the baby happened very fast, Gretchen didn't even scream or anything and apparently there was no afterbirth left. Aside from that the episode was filled with good and smart jokes, altrough the guy in the elevator felt a little Family Guy'ish. I liked how they brought back an enjoyable Itchy & Scratchy cartoon, and the overall suspense of Homer trying to spend time with another baby. The ending with Maggie giving him her doll was very cute.

    The sub plot was okay. It didn't really go anywhere and it ended abruptly, But overall the sub plot brought plenty of laughs, some good Millhouse and Kirk scenes, and Lisa being herself to try and help the cheerleaders from being exploited. I was actually suprised they didn't use a scene where Marge finds all the cheerleaders in her house, and thinks that Homer hired them or something, missed opportunity.

    3.5/5, rounded as a 4/5 in the poll, trough its very close. I can always change my mind to round it to a 3/5 with a rewatch

    EDIT: Also loved the Tapped Out joke, quick but great. May have been cool to actually see Homer's Springfield trough
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    3/5: The episode was fair, but I didn't care for the subplot.
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