View Full Version : How Would You Rate "The Frying Game" (DABF16)?
Tomacco
05-18-2002, 07:29 PM
When you see the episode, post your review here.
For MY full review, follow the link below:
www.thespringfieldshopper.com/reviewdabf16.htm
TheSageBean
05-18-2002, 09:24 PM
It was a funny episode. I liked the fight reverend lovejoy had, and I also liked the Green Mile Parody. 4/5
Cletus Del Roy
05-18-2002, 09:37 PM
Yes all that was great... but aren't you forgetting something?
DAMNIT WHY AREN"T YOU ALL AS HAPPY AS I AM! For goodness sake, the Del Roys adopt Bart and Lisa!
dirkmm
05-18-2002, 10:03 PM
It was a pretty good episode. The last part of the episode got too serious in my opinion but the ending seemed to make up for that. Overall I give it a 4/5.
Dennis
05-19-2002, 05:29 AM
It had a great mix of humor and emotion and the characters were used well. Also, Gil wasn't as annoying, as now he is probably going to be the new Simpsons laywer. The Yeeees guy wasn't as annoying either. Also Carmen Electra's appearance wasn't as pointless as most guest stars. Also, I could imagine it in season 4, like most of season 13. 5/5. The only thing I don't get, is how Mr. Burns just covered for Homer for no reason.
Speed-Bump
05-19-2002, 06:50 AM
It had a really bad ending. That was the only part, along with a few sex jokes, that made the episode lose some points. Everything else was great. I loved the Green Mile parody. The reverand Lovejoyight was one of the funniest. "Why won't you go have sex with your wife?"
The Cletus part was pretty good.
David
05-19-2002, 08:31 AM
Just watched it from Simpsons100,
4/5, It was better than most new ones, and it wasnt as filthy and infunny as The Sweetest Apu.
Finch 182
05-19-2002, 10:03 AM
3/5 it was ok.. I didn't like the screamapillar at all. That reminded me of Family Guy when he couldn't kill the crows.
I would actually give this about a 4.5/5, but I had to vote 4 on the poll. I found this episode good: it had a quite-good plot, I even felt they ended it up quite well, and although the inevitable sex jokes made an appearance they were kept in check. The characters stayed in character more or less, and overall I would say this was a great episode.
brancely
05-19-2002, 10:48 AM
3/5.
Meh, it was okay: nothing special, but not too bad. I probably wold have given it a 4, except for the FYG's appearance and the ending sucked.
coolguy2003
05-19-2002, 11:26 AM
I thought it was an ok episode. It had alot of funny parts in it, but the ending of the episode really sucked!
J.Re*
05-19-2002, 12:32 PM
DAMMIT! The episode was doing so great and they had to piss it away with that shit they call an ending! :mad: I loved the rest of the episode but they had to ruin it. I'll try to forget the horrible ending and give it a 4/5
PrinceBejeeta
05-19-2002, 03:55 PM
Well it was ok i didn't like it too much i'll give it a 3/5.
the Green Mile parody was really funny, the ending sucked totaly.
FlexMasterFunk
05-19-2002, 04:00 PM
it was ok...
the plot and characters seemed out of... umm... character at times, and the ending was kind of lame, but not the worst...
I laughed a few times, there were some really funny jokes, so it wasn't the worst episode, but I had to give it a 3/5....
that's all I got...
p.e.a.c.e.
Wavy Gravy
05-19-2002, 04:19 PM
Jonah - have you done your guide page yet? If not, I don't care if Ms. Bellamy (or whatever the old lady's name is ) had a bigger role - do Brandine as the episode bio. You may not get another chance.
Booo! So bored all the way through! 2/5
RexDart
05-19-2002, 05:00 PM
Wow. Simply tasteless. I'm not going to vote as I missed the first act entirely. However, I can comment on the last acts. There were some good jokes, and it was touching how Homer sacrificed himself for Marge. Then they had to ruin that by making such a tasteless ending. Even as a satire of reality TV and a dig at Fox, it went too far. As a strong opponent of the death penalty, I must say that making light of it like that was too much for me. Oh, well, to each his own I suppose.
Mr. Plow
05-19-2002, 05:04 PM
4/5 I was surprised with this one. From the look of the description and promo card, i thought this was gunna be another scully-like episode. I liked how the story built up and how the characthers acted. Humor was top-notch and loved the idea of the game-show parody in the end. It looked like they were making fun of the Jamie Kennedy Expierment on the WB (Jamie Kennedy is either my 5th or 6th cousin somehow) or something Like that. Season 13 polls are coming out either tomorrow or tuesday at latest. It's good to be back
Zjraus
05-19-2002, 05:06 PM
I gave it a 4/5, but in a season like four or eight, it would probably be a 3/5. I liked the screaming caterpillar, and the ending was okay. The good part about the ending was that it wasn't really expected. I thought it was funny when Gil was reading a book about how to be a ________ (I forget, it was some different job) after he screwed up as their lawyer. One of the better of season 13.
Jessica Lovejoy
05-19-2002, 05:06 PM
I thought this episode was pretty average when compared it to the rest of the season. Some of the jokes were funny, alas, some weren't. The plot was okay, I suppose, and I didn't mind the wacky ending THAT much, although it reminded me a bit too much of the ending from "The Great Money Caper". Eh, but whatareyougonnado? 3.5/5. Not great, but not bad either.
Handsome Pete
05-19-2002, 05:06 PM
When does the hurting stop? This episode really, really stunk, and it deserves a 2/5 rating (though I voted 4/5 on accident). The first act was HORRIBLE. The scream-a-pilar...never have I seen such a stupid plot device in my life.
The second and third acts weren't too great either, and I just plain hated the ending. However, there were a couple of decent jokes to save it from the realms of a 1/5 rating. Reverend Lovejoy's fight with the Catholic was interesting, and there was some emotion! It was surprising when Homer wanted to sacrifice his life for Marge, and it was slightly touching. Still, I hated this episode. Weird how I voted 5/5 on last week's episode, huh?
pigvomit
05-19-2002, 05:07 PM
They could have gotten alot of mileage out of Cletus and Brandine being foster parents. I wonder if the Catholics will be complaining about Lovejoy's remarks but I suppose they have much bigger problems to worry about.
James
05-19-2002, 05:08 PM
This episode seemed like an idiotic Saturday Morning cartoon version. The humor was strained, wacky, and badly timed often, and the plot was jumpy and ludicrous. There were a few good jokes, though (the screamapillar, the trial), but in general, it was a highly mediocre episode. I just thought: "Is this the Simpsons?" throughout. I never had fun watching this and enjoyed this episode precious little. A tedious rant from Dana Gould. Then there was the ending...it was even more jumpy and tasteless then the rest. Ick. C.
Wavy Gravy
05-19-2002, 05:09 PM
Well, now that I've seen the episode, Brandine isn't all that hot a choice. Go with Ms. Bellamy.
Pretty good episode. It was pretty funny the way Homer and Marge had to care for the screamapillar like a baby, and the scenes at Ms. Bellamy's house were pretty cool. The episode took a very serious turn when Homer and Marge are sentenced to death, but that ending - jeez, what a cop-out. Just a pointless tack on and some cheap excuse to feature Carmen Electra. But other than the ending, I'd give it a 3.5/5.
Brent
05-19-2002, 05:10 PM
I thought it was pretty damn funny, everything in it was non Simpson like...but who gives a damn, it was funny. I liked the Green Mile parody, the screamapillar thing was so funny I laughed my ass off, same thing with the ending, and yes, I do like when things are so stupid it's humorous. And the Priest/Reverend fight was classic, and so was " If Homer killed everyone he said he would, who would be alive' was too. 4/5.
HellBender
05-19-2002, 05:11 PM
Nothing spectacular, 3/5
Tomacco
05-19-2002, 05:21 PM
Ooh, shit, you're right, they havn't done Brandine yet in the bio! I already made the page and did the Screamapillar. Well, hopefully I can do it for Wednesday's episode.
http://www.thespringfieldshopper.com/miniFRYINGGAME.gif
http://www.thespringfieldshopper.com/guidedabf16.htm
thecapecoddah
05-19-2002, 05:34 PM
4/5. Very powerful final act, with a neat swerve at the end. Screamapillar scenes were amusing to me... made me laugh a bit.
Blinkythe3eyedfish
05-19-2002, 05:46 PM
Good EP, 4/5. Loved the screamapilla bits :p
This episode was, well...kind of empty it had some funny bits and pieces: Marge thinking "how much did he piss away for this?", and Rev. Lovejoy duking it out with the Catholic Priest, however, the entire episode seemed as dry and arid as the Sahara desert.
Don't get me wrong. This episode wasn't offensively bad like the worst of the Simpsons in the past few seasons. It just seemed grossely uninspired.
A 3 outta 5.
Jake
J.Re*
05-19-2002, 05:54 PM
Way to go Jonah, awesome guide
Originally posted by HellBender
Nothing spectacular, 3/5
I second that motion. But I voted a 2.
Actually...I was hoping for a cliffhanger...w/the show ending w/Homer in the electric chair...and we'd have to wait until the next season to know the outcome...and Marge would hunt for the man with the braces a la "The Fugitive."
:bored: The "twist" at the end was more like "Bobby in the shower" than "Who shot J.R.?"
Uncie Moe
05-19-2002, 06:04 PM
4/5...8/10...I thought I was gonna hate this episodeand I was even looking at it harshly(maybe thats why I ended up liking it) but this episode wasn't nearly as bad as it could have been. Although there were alot of things I could see the purists complaining about(the ending and the whole screamapiler thing--which I agree with) but this was just an enjoyable episode. Tons of great, rarely seen characters in this episode. The Otto tourbus thing was great especially with Homer getting off and it was cool to see Otto again, the Del Roy part was hilarious, The Green Mile parodies were amusing, The Mr. Burns part was good stuff too! Next ep looks even better. I said it last week and now im Reassured it looks like the Al Jean era has found its niche.
edit: I just wanna throw in some other funny parts such as The Priests, Now affiliated with Death Row records(with gangsta tunes in the background) second best sight gag of the season behind Home of The Beatles in Sweets and Sours of Marge IMO. Also Gil was very tolerable in this episode. My one complaint was this episode seemed very unemotional(look at past eps such as Lisa's Sub and the one where Homer was gonna die) I mean both MArge and Homer were gonna die and there wasn't even a point made about losing their kids, etc. but a big plus was to see the emotional side of Homer when he confessed.
DotheBartman
05-19-2002, 06:07 PM
WHY COULDN"T THEY MAKE THE ENDING SERIOUS?! WHY?! IT WOULD HAVE MADE IT ONE OF THE BEST ENDINGS IN THE SERIES' RUN IF THEY HAD!
Just for the horrible ending, my grade goes from a B to a C. Maybe lower.
Tomacco
05-19-2002, 06:07 PM
I only saw the Global version. Did FOX show a commercial for Wednesday's episode? If so, what happened?
And, just a side note, even though what ended up happening in the end was stupid, the emotional stuff in the episode was GENUINE! Homer and the cops didn't know about the whole thing! Was it just me, or did you all think Homer walking on death row and being strapped into the chair was one of the most emotional scenes in ages? The music was great for those parts.
Robbie
05-19-2002, 06:08 PM
Heh, I liked it. Even with all the spoilers I read, the "Frame-Up" thing was still a complete surprise.
"So, what are your last names?"
"Oh, we don't have 'em, we're like Cher."
4/5 :)
Kalbelgarion
05-19-2002, 06:10 PM
M'eh. This episode was better than this season's lowly dirt ("Blame it on Lisa", "Homer the Moe"), but now as good as the best of the season ("Little Girl in the Big Ten"). Quite a bit of the humor seemed very, very forced (Par example, the "Homer's a killer!" scene in Moe's).
The ending was down right bad, and it seemed as though the writers wrote themselves into a corner, much like "The Great Money Caper".
3/5. Not bad, but really not great.
Robbie
05-19-2002, 06:11 PM
Originally posted by A Clockwork James
A tedious rant from Dana Gould.
John Swartzwelder, actually.
Heyyyy, since when was this Quick Reply box here? Nifty. Are you guys trying to get me to post more? :LOL:
Now my review. It was all right, nothing that really pissed me off, except for the screamapillar. A bit too Tex Avery/Family Guy. Homer was WAY too over-the-top with his whispering and fist-shaking, but the Meals on Wheels scenes were pretty amusing.
Other things I liked:
--The Lovejoy/Priest fight
--Cletus's family taking in Bart/Lisa
--The Green Mile parody (loved that movie-- wow, 2 Tom Hanks movies parodied this season!)
--Vanilla Coke (okay, not in the ep, but it's pretty good)
Things I didn't like:
--Guess. (at least he was on for only 5 seconds, though)
--As I said up there, the screamapillar (why not a more innocuous endangered animal?)
--The beret-on-the-wang biz-nass
So... what about the ending? It was okay, but not really what I was hoping for. I was really hoping that they'd break down the fourth wall and it would involve the firing of a writer or something for writing a 'lame' ep. Instead, they parody reality shows, negating the whole story-- seems like more of a Family Guy thing, don'cha think?
Well, anywho, Wednesday is the real season-capper, and it looks a tad better than the original description intimated. Can't wait for Fat Tony and his mob.
Well, I have to say that I was very pleasantly surprised with tonight's episode. After seeing the promo last week, I have been dreading this episode all week. I was shocked that I actually really enjoyed the episode -- even the "yesss" guy. As for people being upset about the ending, I think it was the best thing that could have happened. With all the reality shows getting more disturbing each week, the ending seemed very relevant. I agree with all of the highlights that PsycheEnFuego (including Vanilla Coke). I also thought that the HO J. Trial, while outdated, was still very funny. I also have to say that when Marge talked about all that she would miss on earth, seeing her grandchildren. . . I nearly cried. It was very touching to me for some reason and it was the first time that I have related to her character in an emotional way in several seasons. Now that I have praised this episode, I will tell you what I did not like: the screamapillar. Screamapillar? Seriously, that has to be one of the worst made up insects of all time. Although it did have one or two funny lines (it is sexually attracted to fire, lol) -- a more realistic species would have been better. Plus, it took up too much time. Time that was used for the screamapillar, could have been used during the extremely short scenes where Homer did the noble thing and confessed to the murder (which he did not commit) to save Marge's life. It is the first time that I remember Homer doing something so noble since the pre-Scully days. I voted 4/5 for this episode, although in actuality I think I will give a somewhere between a 4.2 - 4.5, making it one of my Top 10, possibly Top 5 episodes of the season. A bad premise that turned out to be a good episode, great job Al! If a premise this poor can turn out so well, then I have high hopes for Season 14. 4/5
Smilin'JoeFission
05-19-2002, 06:44 PM
The middle of this episode was pretty funny, but the beginning and end were terrible. Normally, an episode starts off great, but a screaming catepillar? It just didn't seem to work. Homer and Marge doing all the work for Mrs. Bellamy, or whatever her name was was really funny, and the Green Mile parody was hilarious. I thought it was awesome when Homer put his life further on the line, when he set Marge free. But then the ending came, and although funny, it made the rest of the episode kind of pointless. I think this episode shouldn't have aired as the season finale. Oh well, next season has so many holdovers, it may be better. After "Poppa's Got a Brand New Badge" I will make my final thoughts on this season. A definite improvement from S12, though.
GRADE- B-, didn't live up to all I appreciated of "Little Girl in the Big Ten"
DotheBartman
05-19-2002, 06:54 PM
Originally posted by Tomacco
I only saw the Global version. Did FOX show a commercial for Wednesday's episode? If so, what happened?
And, just a side note, even though what ended up happening in the end was stupid, the emotional stuff in the episode was GENUINE! Homer and the cops didn't know about the whole thing! Was it just me, or did you all think Homer walking on death row and being strapped into the chair was one of the most emotional scenes in ages? The music was great for those parts.
Yes,I agree. In the emotional scenes near the end, I was actually getting a bit teary eyed. That's what I hated about the very ending. That horrible, awful ending. Someone kill Carmen Electra for me.
skittlebrau
05-19-2002, 07:02 PM
This was a very good episode, overall. I'll give it a 4/5. Had it not been for the "Green Mile" parody, Burns covering for Homer and Wiggum screaming "Did you do it?!" then getting carted away by Lou, I would've given it a 3/5. Sweet.
Rowdy
05-19-2002, 07:57 PM
Typical Season 12-13 episode with pointless setup act, only 50% of the humor works, Homer shaking fist, more sexual jokes....whatever. Highlights included Mr. Burns covering for Homer, Homer getting Wiggum arrested, and the fight between the Catholic priest and Rev. Lovejoy. Overall, it was a decent episode with lots and lots of failed gags (especially that last joke...ugh....).
All 21 Season 12 Eps: 66/105
First 21 of Season 13 Eps: 67/105
Well, it looks like it's now a very close race. Basically, if the next episode ends up being an average episode (3/5) Season 13 will be the better season in my book. If not, it will end up becoming the worst season yet. Let's see what happens.......
Satans Lil' Helper
05-19-2002, 08:01 PM
definetly "eh". There were some good parts, but mostly stoopid
Originally posted by Tomacco
And, just a side note, even though what ended up happening in the end was stupid, the emotional stuff in the episode was GENUINE! Homer and the cops didn't know about the whole thing! Was it just me, or did you all think Homer walking on death row and being strapped into the chair was one of the most emotional scenes in ages? The music was great for those parts.
Yes, as you will read from my post at the top of this page, I nearly cried when Marge thought of all that she would miss. Then Homer being strapped into the chair, the music, Wiggum crying, made it very emotional and the ending didn't really bother me -- when Homer cryed and then they pulled the switch I thought I was gonna cry too. Making it part of a reality-show rather than a lesson by the town (like Scully did in The Great Money Caper) made it much more realistic and satirical. I really did enjoy this episode. Very emotional.
And Rowdy, I know it is your opinion and all, but you are being way to harsh on Season 13. Season 13 is a vast improvement over Season 12 -- there is no way that Season 12 could be better.
Kefka
05-19-2002, 08:46 PM
This episode was good. but...
I HATE ANNOYING screaming. That kinda made it terrible. I would have gave it a 4/5 if not for a few reasons:
- Screamapillar
- The ending. It could've been the most emotional ending EVER, but no, they decided to F' it up.
Wiggle Puppy
05-19-2002, 08:54 PM
I loved it! 4/5! The part where Homer tells Mr. Burns to cover for him was IMO the funniest scene of the season easy!
ShadowBun
05-19-2002, 08:56 PM
I knew there was nothing to worry about! Looking back at a previous thread regarding everyone bashing the episode based on the promo card, I can just realize how misguiding those things are.
FIRST ACT: Homer starts by giving advice on marriage, a decent scene up until the beret, which was pretty surprising. Best part of that scene was when Moe mentioned it'd be great for his speed-dating, walks out the door, then walks in a half-second later. "I got 200 "No's"." Funny stuff.
Enter the screamapillar, who you either like or hate. On first glance, I kind of worried that the bug would make this act feel like something akin to a Chuck Jones cartoon. However, I was surprised as I was laughing nonstop throughout the next few scenes involving the baby monitor, Santa's Little Helper, the thing puking up on Marge, and Homer squashing it with a book. Homer's obviously loud whisper has always cracked me up, and him whispering to Lisa was no exception. The "sexually attracted to fire" line was hilarious. The screamapillar seemed too human when he had the neck brace on, but the Crazy Old Man and Homer's match-lighting got another couple of chuckles out of me.
SECOND ACT: Not quite as funny as the first act, but a lot of plot development happens here. The old women insulting Skinner was pretty funny, and Homer's reaction to the old lady's death was a laugh-out-loud moment for me. Wiggum's interrogation was a really good scene, with Homer only making the situation worse ("Well, it'd be good if she died then. For us, I mean. Financially."), and Wiggum screaming "DID YOU DO IT!?" at random times cracked me up. Homer's reaction, "DOES THAT EVER WORK?!" was good too.
THRID ACT: Trial scenes have come and gone in many, many Simpsons episodes, and fortunately, they still have their humor. The jury joking with Snyder, Gil as the lawyer, and Gil's book were all good. I laughed out loud at Homer's fist shaking, because I knew it would tick off most of the people here (I don't mind it, myself).
Finally, Homer and Marge in prison. This made the episode, as a huge build up led to a big climax. I didn't mind the sex joke here, because it wasn't a joke at all...I mean, if I was married, I'd want my last night on Earth to be special as well. Marge's talk about her kids, as another guy already posted, was genuinely touching and was well-done. Homer's last meal was funny, as well as his comments regarding "explosions" afterwards. However, the best part of the episode was when Homer admitted to the crime himself, thus freeing Marge. This is easily one of the most noble things Homer's ever done in the entire history of OFF, and it was great to see it here. The music throughout these scenes, not to mention the well-written, poignant dialogue, was both sorrowful and suspenseful.
Frying time. The Yeeees Guy wasn't bad at all. Patty and Selma were a nice touch at the execution, and the best frame in the entire show was when Marge had her hands up on the glass and the reflection of Homer was showing. Great suspense, great poignancy, great music, heck, great animation. Chief Wiggum crying? Fantastic. I mean, you could really tell that Wiggum was reluctant to execute Homer, as if he was bound by doing his job over whatever personal feelings he had. Great touch. Then, of course, the ending. It was a decent satire of reality shows and another funny jab at FOX, but I wasn't looking for that here. I was looking for an emotional, touching ending because of the GREAT buildup. Ah well, it was pretty funny anyway, and you can't beat that electric chair scene.
Act 1: 4/5 Act 2: 3.5/5 Act 3: 5/5
Overall: 12.5/15
4/5, nice season finale.
Tomacco
05-19-2002, 09:10 PM
I just realized something. How could this have ended as emptionally as what led up to the execution? If Homer actually did die? We know that's not gonna happen, so the only other thing would have to be Homer gets pardoned and let go. That wouldn't have been emotional. It would have been relieving for Homer and Marge (like the actual ending was anyways), not to mention very predictable. So, I dunno what couldve been better.
And AGAIN, why is everyone following FOX's stupidity for calling this a season finale? "Poppa's Got a Brand New Badge" is considered an episode of season 13, and it will be the final episode of the season, so that makes it the season finale. Not only that, but Al Jean had always intended for "Poppa" to be the season finale, so that's the actual one.
Originally posted by Tomacco
I just realized something. How could this have ended as emptionally as what led up to the execution? If Homer actually did die? We know that's not gonna happen, so the only other thing would have to be Homer gets pardoned and let go. That wouldn't have been emotional. It would have been relieving for Homer and Marge (like the actual ending was anyways), not to mention very predictable. So, I dunno what couldve been better.
Exactly, the ending was perfect! Everyone in the room I was watching it with died laughing and I actualy felt like a weight had been lifted of my shoulders. I felt relieved for Homer. The only thing that could have made it more emotional was if they spent more time on Homer rejoicing and crying in joy with his family. The "I've made my choice" was a very funny line but I would have prefered and ending with the family crying and hugging each other. I rated this as my 5th favorite of the season. :)
ShadowBun
05-19-2002, 09:16 PM
Tomacco, you have a point with that ending thing. However, it could've been kind of emotional, you know. I mean, at least a heck of a lot more than it is now. Even if they were simply pardoned, it'd be better. Also, apparently it's "officially" the season finale, so I'm just calling it that. Well, whatever, it seems like more of a "big" episode than "Poppa" anyway.
Enter The Moleman
05-19-2002, 10:20 PM
I didn't mind this episode that much but I thought the screamapillar was a bit too "cartoony" but eps have always been cartoony when you think about it.
I just have one question though is "Lenford" Lennys full first name or his last name, you know kind of like Carl Carlson.
I liked the episode. I thought it was funny and didn't mind the ending because it came out of left field. I liked the insect thing at the beginning and liked the fact that Homer was going to sacrifice himself for his wife (like most husbands would really do).
I gave it a 3/5.
Peace.
kupomog
05-19-2002, 10:47 PM
It was okay. Not bad, not good. 3/5
DotheBartman
05-19-2002, 11:12 PM
Hmm...Tomacco, you have a point about the ending. I just still feel that they could have come up with SOMETHING. Still, after viewing it a second time, it wasn't really that bad.
Also, I freeze framed to see who was in the window box watching. You can see Moe, Patty and Selma smiling, the Screamapiller, Apu and Manjula, Skinner, Agnes, and......George Bush Sr. Might want to add that to the complete guide.
I don't think this episode was very good overall. Well, thats not really true. I really hated the screamapillar part and just the fact that they chose that "animal". However, Homer's part saved the first act from being total crap. Then, I also didn't like the part where Homer helps that lady and later Marge and him become her buttlers. (WTF?)
But the third act (well most of it) was pure television genius...and long overdue for OFF. The emotional stuff was executed to perfection. My hat goes off to Al Jean for that little scene where Homer admits to a crime that he did not committ in order to fre Marge. Wow....I can't remember the last time I was so touch by a Simpsons ep in a long time. With episodes such as Jaws Wired Shut and this one tonight this season, could it be safe to say that there might be a change in Homer's character in Season 14. A less moronic and annoying Homer.
Back to the ep, everythign leading up to the execution was great too. Green Mile parody, Wiggum crying, "Yeesss" guy and the call from the governor, P&S holding hands... We knew that he wasn't going to die, but as the final act progressed and the 8 o'clock mark got closer the weight on our chest got heavier and heavier. Wow.
But then the horrible shock ending. Guess what, its all a part of a reality show. Guess what else, it was Survivor's season finale right after the ep. We all knew he wasn't going to die but that was not the way to save Homer. If they were going to parody reality television they should have dedicated an entire episode to it. The way they did it basically negated the entire story just spoof reality TV.
There were several great suggestions for a great ending on this board, such as ending in a cliff hanger just as Homer was getting zapped, air "and we'd have to wait until the next season to know the outcome...and Marge would hunt for the man with the braces a la "The Fugitive."" (SNUH)or "break down the fourth wall and it would involve the firing of a writer or something for writing a 'lame' ep." ( PsycheEnFuego )
I gave it 2/5.....maybe a bit too harsh... I think I should have given it 3/5. I'll see what I think after I watch it one omre time. The final act (except the ending) gets a 6/5 so figure out what I thought of the rest.
Jamie
05-19-2002, 11:16 PM
Originally posted by Rowdy
All 21 Season 12 Eps: 66/105
First 21 of Season 13 Eps: 67/105
Well, it looks like it's now a very close race. Basically, if the next episode ends up being an average episode (3/5) Season 13 will be the better season in my book. If not, it will end up becoming the worst season yet. Let's see what happens.......
OH THE SUSPENSE
BTW, you must have noticed the Marge blindfold sight gag where her pupil goes up over the blindfold and Homer pushes it back down.
One of the sight gags of the season.
Citizen Kang
05-20-2002, 08:25 AM
4/5
I like it. Not a great season finale but good none the less. First act was slow but it did pick up. The ending was a little wierd but still funny...
:smoking:
Gagnonsux
05-20-2002, 08:39 AM
4/5. Overall this was a really funny episode that suffered from some noticeble drawbacks. Namely the sex jokes and the ending were bad enough to take the score of the episode down a lot. Still, the show has improved so I just want to say that this episode was way better than the con artist episode.
Ignignot
05-20-2002, 08:47 AM
Originally posted by Enter The Moleman
I didn't mind this episode that much but I thought the screamapillar was a bit too "cartoony" but eps have always been cartoony when you think about it.
I just have one question though is "Lenford" Lennys full first name or his last name, you know kind of like Carl Carlson.
according to Matt Groening Lenny has no last name, like Cher.
Mafia
05-20-2002, 08:54 AM
it was pretty good. I gave it a 3.5/5 or 7/10. I didn't really like the end. Oh well. The rest was great.
Tomacco
05-20-2002, 09:40 AM
Why did Homer call him Lenford (or Langford?), when Burns called him Leonard in "Burns' Heir", a much more suitable name? Well, maybe cuz Homer's an idiot..
Mike Scully
05-20-2002, 10:11 AM
I actually thought the ending to The Great Money Caper was more appropriate. That whole episode was about grifting, so it made sense to end that episode with a big grift on the viewers. However, I didn't like this ending as much, because it was such a lame shot on reality TV.
I didn't like the episode on the whole. It exemplified the worst of season 13, taking a great but heavy-handed story idea (like DABF06 or the third act of DABF01) and turning it into an uninspired farce. C-
BangBangBart
05-20-2002, 10:41 AM
5/5, hilarious! I could not stop laughing at that screamapillar. So many funny jokes. The ending was pretty odd and unexpected. At least i didn't expect it.
motaba
05-20-2002, 11:00 AM
Well, I gave it a 3.75/5(7.5/10). The screamapillar was just stupid but kind of funny, the scenes with Wiggum, Otto, and the old people(Agnes and them) were great. The ending was a cop-out but a needed ending, I mean they couldn't kill Homer, so they simply found a way to get him out of it and make fun of a few things in the process. I absolutely loved the scene with Rev Lovejoy and the Green Mile parody was well-executed. Carmen Electra's appearance was certainly not needed but funny nonetheless. Gil should have been used a little bit longer and the 'Yes man' was more annoying than usual(I actually find him sometimes rather amusing). All in all, it was a good episode with a wide range of emotions used and used well. I hope Wednesday has a good parody of one of my favorite shows right now, The Sopranos; in the promo, I heard 'Woke up this morning' so I'm betting there'll be some type of allusion to it.
Duffman OH YEAH
05-20-2002, 11:10 AM
i liked it alot, very good jokes, kinda pissed it wasnt an hour as advertsied, o well. it was good cept for the last joke. the caren electra tit thing., it woudlve been beter in the show, but not as the final joke.
Sideshow Phil
05-20-2002, 12:00 PM
Overall a decent episode with a balky ending - 3/5 for the episode as a whole, 4/5 with a better ending.
Likes:
Lovejoy fighting the Priest
Green mile parody
The Murder tour
"Ho. J. Trial"
Homer biting the bullet for Marge
Dislikes:
Screamapillar was a bit much
Ending was...unexpected
I don't have anything against the 'surprise', but did they have to make fun of Fox AGAIN?
Well after seeing it again, I changed my mind a bit. The first act was really well done and funny in the process, but I still hated the fact that the screamapillar was the anomal the writers opted for. Throughout the act I kept laughing and chuckling, but still in the back of my head the...um...unrealism or cartoonishness of the situation kept bugging. 3/5
Second act was still the weakest. Nice try writing satire on elders and how we deal with them or what is the civilized thing to do around them. But it just didn't work for me. 2/5 (maybe even less)
Third act, as I already posted, was pure genius. Capturing, touching, suspenseful while still sparkled with comedy. Just Great!!! But the friggin' ending!!! Oh of all the copouts they had to go that way. 6/5 (without the ending) 4/5 (maybe even less with the ending)
Just a few notes:
-How come so many of you on this board don't like Homer's fist shaking?
-It would have been better if Homer and Marge's lawyer was the one that defended O.J. (whats-his-name) especially following the Springfield Shopper Headlie intro. And after losing, he could have said "This isn't suppose to happened! Crap, I forgot that glove in the car"
-There was a reference to Puff...P Diddy (H. Diddy) and J.Lo (Murder Mo) but they didn't go anywhere with it. That would have been more recent event to parody than the O.J. trail.
-Nonetheless, I think Gill should recieve more screen time in the future.
-I think in this episode Marge (How much mone did he piss away on thus?) seemed more of a jackass than Homer (the anniversary gift/confessing)
-Too bad Cletus adopting the Simpsons kids angle wasn't further developed.
-Animation goof I caught was that when Homer was put in the chair the warrden put the spounge on his head and then lowered the "bowl". But when he got out of the chair and lifted the "bowl" there was no spounge.
Overall: I upgraded my mark to 3/5. I guess I excepted something exceptional from a season fin--.....err.....second last episode of the season in which there seemed to be a turn around in quality of the show.
Bluesman
05-20-2002, 02:25 PM
ah, MAN this ep sucked! that goddamn caterpillar, the butler parts, the ending (worst of all). this was so random and senseless it made me sick. this next one had better buck up, because im sick of seeing ep after ep going down the shitter.
CrashBandicoot
05-20-2002, 02:32 PM
I would give this episode 7/10, the only parts I found funny was Burns taking over for Homer and the Green Mile part
beer barron
05-20-2002, 04:06 PM
dang funny, "Can you cover for me?"
5/5
what the hell are you people thinking!?...typical new episode crap...
screamapillar...sucked
meals on wheels...sucked
gameshow...suckity suck sucked
i'm so dissapointed...
the only thing i was surprised about was how homer sacrificed himself for marge...very touching...
or_smth
05-20-2002, 07:17 PM
The thing I don't understand is why so many of you actually seem to like the Green Mile parody. I thought it was pretty tasteless myself, with (the big black guy) saying he is going to kill the mouse, and strangling Homer. I would have liked it to be more subtle, where they don't actually call attention to the fact they are parodying the Green Mile.
The "screamapiler" was pretty ridiculous, there are at least 300 better ways to get Homer community service, and probably without taking so much time.
The things I seemed to like in this episode were the random jokes (excluding the ending), like burns cover for Homer was great. We even saw Homer in 7G! Hurrahzah!
Still, the cartoon(ness), the ending and the tasteless Green Mile parody left a bad taste in my mouth.
3/5. I also thought Gil as a lawyer kind of sucked, it was too rushed. With Hutz they actually gave him time to say the stupid (but witty) stuff, with Gil they just skimmed by it.
kupomog
05-21-2002, 01:05 AM
I didn't find anything great about the Green Mile parody. But I didn't outright hate it. I would've been happier if the guy didn't try to kill Homer..but I could see how it tied in.
The only thing that really angered me was the ending. I'm glad Homer isn't dead and all...but a reality show...jesus christ...I was almost to tears thinking Homer was going to croak, then some host guy and fucking Carmen Electra appear...
tim_duncan2000
05-21-2002, 08:34 AM
That was one of the worst episodes of the season. The screamapiller was stupid and not funny, Homer and Marge at the old lady's house was not very funny, it had that horrible fist-waving joke, and I thought the ending was dreadfull. I don't know what the writers are thinking when they write crap like this. There were only a few mildly funny jokes in this entire episode, and it was totally un-Simpsonlike. And I don't care about what others say, I think Gil absolutely sucks as a lawyer. I know Hutz is gone because Phil Hartman died, but I don't care much for Gil. This episode could have been in Season 11, it was that bad. I gave it a 1/5.
Sideshow Phil
05-21-2002, 09:51 AM
I did forget to mention in my earlier post that I enjoyed the fact that Homer was actually seen at work again. Sure, it wasn't as great as his usual "appearances" at work from earlier seasons, but at least he was at work...the only part of the scene that didn't make a whole lot of sense was why Burns was so ready to "cover" for Homer. Burns being surprised by Lenny and Carl was a little funny, though. I guess since Burns still doesn't realize who Homer is, he figured he would just cover for him.
I still stand by my earlier review and score.
Finkinstein
05-21-2002, 09:56 AM
It was a better episode of the season!
I liked the shouting bit!
Homer:Now, if you'll just excuse us, we'll just be - DOES THAT EVER WORK?
Wiggum: No, Nah Never does!
That was great!
And the green mile parody!
Good 4/5
The Greenmile parody was not that tasteless. I found it to be very funny. Especially when he threatened the mouse. As others have said, Mr. Burns filling in for Homer was abosulutely hilarious. I just wish that it would have ended up tying back in with the plot somehow. Maybe at the end they could have shown Mr. Burns eating a donut at Homer's workstation or something.
StrideR
05-21-2002, 03:44 PM
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Sorry about this, folks....double post.
StrideR
05-21-2002, 03:44 PM
Unfortunately (possibly fortunately), I didn't catch most of this ep. I misread the promo for it and thought it would come up at 8pm before the X-files series finale. However, I saw the very end of the episode, starting from Homer being led to the electric chair (and the Green Mile parody). Of course, I was disgusted by the end, mostly because it reminded me of another (IMO) crappy episode, "the great money caper." You know, it used to be funny when OFF bashed FOX, but it just felt old this time.
-If this was all a set up, where does the screamapillar fit in?
elmattoskater
05-21-2002, 04:32 PM
it wasnt that funny but it was ok.3/5
WaRzO
05-21-2002, 05:13 PM
Me, I liked the parody of the green miles with mister Jinggles and John Caffe. I found that the draws were pretty good.
THIS WAS PURE MIKE SCULLY SEASON 11 SHIT
Come on, Screamapillar? What the fuck. That ending was fucking shitty. Somebody murder Mike Scully immediately, even if he had nothing to do with the production of this episode.
thecapecoddah
05-21-2002, 09:24 PM
There Scully is, sleeping on that bench over there!
James
05-22-2002, 04:33 PM
I would love to kill Scully in his sleep....while he's dreaming up BAD EXECUTIVE DECISIONS HE COULD'VE MADE AND IS RUBBING HIS SWEATY HANDS! BWAA!
Dennis
05-22-2002, 04:49 PM
Originally posted by A Clockwork James
I would love to kill Scully in his sleep....while he's dreaming up BAD EXECUTIVE DECISIONS HE COULD'VE MADE AND IS RUBBING HIS SWEATY HANDS! BWAA!
You're really messed up...
George Cauldron
01-23-2003, 08:11 AM
I didn't like this episode much at all. Most of the jokes backfired and the episode just wasn't that funny. Carmen Electra was another pointless guest star who didn't add anything to the episode....all she seemed to say was "yes." Shame that SKY cut out part of the episode relating to "aggravated buggery" though....it would have made for a good line. 2/5.
pigvomit
01-24-2003, 11:58 AM
Wakes up from deep sleep.... I hate people who resurrect 8-month old threads. :o|
George Cauldron
01-24-2003, 12:18 PM
A classic never dies. I thought it was time to revive it.
Wezzo
01-26-2003, 11:22 PM
I'm undecided. One part of me thinks it is a brilliant excellent 5/5 A+ ep. The other half says 'Aagh! Why do you waste your time watching this s//t?!'
So, I don't have a clue..
Wezzo
SideshowTim
01-29-2003, 02:23 AM
Only decent Part was the Green Mile Parody
George Cauldron
01-29-2003, 06:03 AM
Sideshow Bob Terwilliger has this episode as one of his top five! :LOL:
mohammed jafar
01-29-2003, 06:53 AM
this episode was truly awful. really, really bad.
Sultan of Seltzer
01-31-2003, 01:39 PM
i give this episode four out of five. i guess im in the minority in liking the ending, but then again i like a lot of the endings that a lot of seem to hate. i thought it was a brilliant parody of reality tv.
Glavin
02-01-2003, 10:14 AM
ALthough not as bad as many new episodes it still sucked. As did most eepisodes starting with seasons 12
Reservoir Dog
11-14-2006, 09:45 PM
A great classic Swartzweldian episode where the ends enjoyable dont justify the means
Rest your giant head
11-14-2006, 11:30 PM
It has few typical Swartzwelder jokes,but as a whole it's disjointed and unwatchable. One of my least favorites ever. 2/5
Disjointed, yes...the ending was a real cop-out too. Was I the only one that thought the Screamapillar thing was funny? Probably...
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kid_presentable
07-12-2007, 09:09 AM
Some quite funny stuff floating around in a crazy plot. C++
tom cody
07-12-2007, 08:42 PM
2/5, not memorable at all.
Kiyosuki
07-13-2007, 12:06 AM
Wow, posting in this thread is like touching some ancient ruin.
I thought this episode was alright. I don't hate it as much as some others. Its not as disjointed I think as some other episodes, its just mostly the ending that came out of nowhere. I always like Homer and Marge getting into trouble together a bit, and while of course its not really a relatable situation, when thinking about how crazy it is and how Homer and Marge try to make sense of the whole thing it still kind of makes some sense in a crazy way.
Homer wasn't really out of control in this at all, and in fact when he does all that stuff to get Marge off the hook at his expense that was pretty damn sweet. Sure it was all fake in the end but you know...Homer on the chair, he's crying, even Wiggum's crying. Its all so sad just by idea alone.
If this were one of the episodes were Homer really, really deserved it (IE Jerkass of course) that wouldn't have worked but it kind of did here. Marge was shockingly calm about the whole thing though, I'd think she'd be a little more emotional..but thats a gripe.
All and all the situation is a crazy one and there's no real deep direction in there, but in its own way it flows I thought. Its one of those episodes that goes to Homer's credit. I wish they saved Homer with a little less of a lighthearted cop-out, but what can ya do at this point? 3/5
JudgeHarmMustDie!
07-13-2007, 09:05 AM
Nothing but utter retardation (Moe getting booed many times in a few short seconds, Homer being the victim of a reality prison tv show, the SCREAMAPILLAR!!!!!!! (what the fuck was this!?!?), etc.).
1/5 (I wish Homer could've beaten up Carmen Electra or the Screamapillar could've died in that episode, then I could've raised it up to a 2/5).
Rococo Fox
02-16-2008, 10:38 AM
Despite the good Homer characterization, this episode fell flat in almost every other respect. Most of the jokes were unfunny and some were distasteful, the plot was nothing original or particularly interesting, the ending was ridiculously cheap and stupid, and the family's reactions to Homer being executed were oddly muted. 1.5/5
Moe Nopoly
02-16-2008, 10:43 AM
for me a good episode with an nice memorable Homer moment
The story is not brilliant but i like this episode anyway
has also some really funny scenes imo
3.5/5
TriforceBun
02-16-2008, 10:39 PM
Wow, posting in this thread is like touching some ancient ruin.
Ain't that the truth. And I notice that in 2002, I was a much more excitable type of guy, it seems. One thing's for sure--I definitely liked the episode a lot more then than I do now. I still think the ending scene has some outstanding emotional impact, but only because of the characterizations of Homer and Marge from past episodes...in other words, if we didn't know the characters well and just saw this one episode as a one-off thing, it wouldn't be very touching.
Anyway, the first two acts were very bleh, and the big twist was lame, but the emotional stuff was generally great. So a revised 3/5.
Stevie V. Scrivello
02-18-2008, 07:07 AM
Easily one of the worst episodes ever, decent Homer characterization or not. Between that damn Screamapillar and Carmen Electra, the episode's idea of humor and plotting was shoddy and absymal.
1.5/5
SpikyHairedHooligan
02-18-2008, 10:45 AM
i gotta go with the majority here and say this episode sucked. it seemed like family guy almost, just plainly stupid. 1/5
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