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Mike Scully
04-07-2002, 09:59 AM
It's here! One of the most anticipated episode of the season airs tonight! After it airs, post your opinions of this episode.

thecapecoddah
04-07-2002, 10:14 AM
This thread will be re-opened after the episode ends on the east coast.

defrocked
04-07-2002, 05:30 PM
Hilarious stuff. Best episode of the season!!

BlindPsychic
04-07-2002, 05:30 PM
Pretty funny. The ending was a litle abrupt though.

Splashmore
04-07-2002, 05:30 PM
I'd have to say that I enjoyed the first half of the episode mainly for some funny instances. Those include:
pop-up video with CBG
Ned and the kids praying on Marge's garden
Homer's relationship with the crows
Crow Diddy, Russel Crow, etc.
Group of crows is called a murder
Sweet sweet eye juices
Prescription bongs
"Objects may appear more edible..."
I could smoke in the president's face and he would be groovin...
Rainbow blood
Call waiting on the phone-line (predictable)
The audience looking confused when Homer says they took time away from their "jobs"
Marijuana is good for medical use or watching "The Matrix"
Otto referring to some marriage
They call em fingers but I've never seen them fing
Quiting cold turkey isn't as delicious as it sounds
I keep it as a reminder (Dentist note)

The problem is that there is virtually no controversey or debate about anything related to marijuana. The only thing
about Ned Flanders' opposing the pro-pot stance is his clipboard of signatures. And the most intelligent thing Lisa has to say about the issue
is, "that it smells like the art teachers' lounge." There is way too much time spent on Homer hanging out with Otto while stoned. The rally with
Phish isn't much of anything, but a waste of time. Phish plays a part of a song, and Homer goes up on stage and rants, only to learn that the
vote already took place -DUMB (an easy way for the writers to dodge any debate about the issue, which the episode should have been largely
based upon). The subplot about Homer's promotion is so out of place that I nearly forgot about it. He gets promoted to
VP because he laughs at Mr. Burn's jokes. After that, they spend so much time showing Homer stoned that in the last few minutes, they are
forced to cram some story about an IPO.

phil
04-07-2002, 05:31 PM
I gave it a 3 out of 5. Starting and ending were mediocre but the middle was great and full of laughs.

irv
04-07-2002, 05:31 PM
Since when was Mike Scully put back in charge.

Bart Skateboarder
04-07-2002, 05:31 PM
Another great episode! Funny, good plot, and everything. I think the Phish fans were dissapointed though. Not a lot of Phish in the episode. The very first part of the first scene where Marge was explaining the overgrown vegetables was boring and out of place. I did like the Dirty Hoe seeds though. It made me laugh. Flanders was funny when he was praying and imitating Wiggum. I also never knew Maggie was a little escape artist! That was brave of her. Another thing I thought that was interesting is when Marge was building the scare crow and used cloths from different episodes. If anyone has a frame grab of Dr. Hibbert holding up the bongs, I would love to have that. All in all, a great episode. So, you know what my rating will be. That’s right! 10/10. I hope all you guys liked it too.

brancely
04-07-2002, 05:31 PM
The episode was not very good at all. It made no sense! The only good part was Flanders praying to the cross, and Marge shooing him! And I missed the prescription scene because of a flash flood watch!! RRRRRR I'm so mad!

mr. broom
04-07-2002, 05:32 PM
Phish was on for less than two minutes, which was a good move, seeing as how there was concern they'd be taking up too much of the story. They got in, they got out, and they didn't screw it up. The "pothead" comment was funny, too.
Mostly I was unimpressed. Smithers smoked pot at the end and put on a Judy Garland suit. Why? It made absolutely no sense and did nothing for the story. It almost seemed like a setup for "better start inhalin', Wayland", which was just sad. 1/5

Tomacco
04-07-2002, 05:33 PM
First Act: B
Second Act: A-
Third Act: D+

This overalls a 3/5 from me. The last 4 minutes really lost me, and the ending was extremely abrupt, and the whole Burns being dead thing was awful. Full review soon.And I told all u Phans that Phish would be in it for no more than 3 minutes. I think they were only on for 2 actually.

Stitchface
04-07-2002, 05:35 PM
I didn't like the first scene except for Flanders & Kids and CBG Pop Up,2nd Scene was the best,and I liked the 3rd scene,and the slap ending

Now all three
(Slap,slap,slap)
Excellent!

So..

First Scene:2/5
2nd Scene:4/5
3rd Scene:3/5

Overall:3/5 A pretty good episode

Hollow Homer
04-07-2002, 05:35 PM
A few good laughs, but overall the story was far too choppy. Once again, there was a disappointing guest appearance. What happened to Phish playing the Simpsons theme song at the conclusion? Man does season 13 suck. 3/5

Reid
04-07-2002, 05:35 PM
Quite a silly episode. Plot wise, it connected three acts I never would have thought connectable (or even funny): Homer gains control of evil crows, Homer smokes some wacky tabacky for medicinal use but becomes addicted, and Mr. Burns dies and Homer and Smithers are forced to dance him around as if he's alive. But, in the end, it all tied together quite nicely, and was rather amusing. Lots of great gags, and not really any complaints.

I especially liked the simple gags where I expected something and got something else (that is the most basic definition of humor right there, folks, but you get what I mean), like when Moe pulled out the picture of the "Crow Bar", and Homer kept the pot around as a reminder. The show has been lacking stuff like that for a while. That's humor at it's best, in my opinion.

Great episode. Nice work.

TomSledgehammer
04-07-2002, 05:36 PM
I though it was better than last weeks episode, it had lots of oxymoronic jokes and I loved the pop-up video mokery-joke...

PrinceBejeeta
04-07-2002, 05:36 PM
Pretty funny episode and I loved the pop up video with CBG.
3/5

|RABiD|
04-07-2002, 05:36 PM
I was slightly disappointed. All the stoned Homer scenes were hilarious and memorable. The third act was a bit abrupt and the crows hanging with Homer was just filler material. I wish they did have a debate for both sides of the argument. But behind all these things the episode was great! Not best episode of the season but nor the worse. I give it an 8.8/10! Jon Vitti rocks!

Also, the pop up video with the CBG was hilarious!

Marge: YES! Marge is in the house! Well...not right now but I will soon because it needs some cleaning!

Mr. Plow
04-07-2002, 05:36 PM
Great Episode but the end was a bit of a downer since it really wasn't going anywere. The slap thing was fine but a bit overused. overall I'd give it 3.5-4/5.

J.Re*
04-07-2002, 05:37 PM
hahahaha, Phish's total time was approx. 1:45, ha I knew it.
The episode had some really funny jokes (We have a kitchen!?) but the plot was sorta dumb and shouldn't have happened
3/5

Simpsonian
04-07-2002, 05:38 PM
This episode was much better than I thought it was going to be, it was a pleasant surprise! 8/10

Necromancer
04-07-2002, 05:38 PM
damn that episode sucked! it was good at the beginning, but started to go down hill fast when Phish came on..

|RABiD|
04-07-2002, 05:40 PM
hehe I change my review to an 8.5/10! 0.3 lower than my previous post.

Jake
04-07-2002, 05:41 PM
Egads! Mr. Vitti, why have you forsaken me? :uhh:

Ryan was right, this was like a bad Scully episode. Too zany, only one good act (the second) and a shitty ending. The only thing that kept this from F-dom was Homer wasn't as truly as annoying as he used to be.

Grade: D

Jake (I didn't inhale)

Tirefire
04-07-2002, 05:41 PM
Had some okay parts, some bad parts, but not even remotely close to some of the other stuff from this season.

Mafia
04-07-2002, 05:43 PM
I give it a 9 out of 10.

for the first time in so long, the episode felt long. the second act felt really long.


it ended a little quickly. I give it a 9/10. It wasn't that bad for not dealing with a serious topic too well. it was full of jokes but its plot wasn't good enough. they could have gotten rid of the otto scenes for it. i enjoyed it more than most episodes this year. My opinion may vary.

CD2002
04-07-2002, 05:44 PM
One Of The Funniest of this season's!
:LOL: :LOL: :LOL: :LOL: :LOL: :LOL:
SLAP! SLAP! SLAP!
http://store4.yimg.com/I/dragonballzcentral_1680_3928544

Kalbelgarion
04-07-2002, 05:45 PM
A tad disappointing as this episode didn't cover *any* of the arguments for or against Medical Marijuana. I was expecting an intelligent attempt at a plot that includes such arguments, with a Phish concert at the conclusion.

However, this episode was funny. Unlike last week's episode that was painfully pointless, this week's show had so many humorous moments. The first act was one of the best of this year. (5/5)

The second act would have been better if the writers eliminated one or two of the "Homer's High" scenes. That humor became tiring after a while. (4/5)

The third act was still funny, although it took a Scully-type slide. I expected them to focus more on Homer's "recovery", rather on Homer's promotion. The scene with Burns' dancing was sickening and degrading to the show. (2.5/5)

I give this one a 3.5/5 overall. That's some nice work, Mr. Jean.

Cole
04-07-2002, 05:45 PM
Originally posted by 666EvilHomer666
damn that episode sucked! it was good at the beginning, but started to go down hill fast when Phish came on..

I don't see how Phish could have hurt the show too much. They were only on for 2 minutes and I thought they did a very good job. The pothead comment was very funny too.

I really like this episode, one of my favorites this season. Homer's rainbow trip was absolutely hilarious. My favorite line was Otto's "Why do they call them fingers? I never see them fling. . . oh, there they go." Plus Homer's "I could smoke in the president's face and he would be groovin..." line. CBG's pop-up-video commments were also a nice touch. And as I said above, I feel that Phish did a good job as well. They had several humorous lines and they certainly didn't take away from the plot (I feel they added). One complaint I have is the way the story ended so abruptly. I also feel Mr. Burn's drowning was forced and a little disturbing. Besides that, I loved. I may be alone on this, but I thought this was a terrific episode. It gets a 5/5 from me. :smoking:

Splashmore
04-07-2002, 05:45 PM
Agree with evilhomer, started off good and went downhill as the episode progressed. The subplot was just wacky.

Big Springfield petition against pot....Ned's clipboard.

Dennis
04-07-2002, 05:48 PM
I gave it an 3/5 because I wanted to see some more plot behind the Mr. Burns thing. The ending was too wierd because you didn't know what happened to Homer's job. It would also have been better if the controversy of the marijuana came up more. All that happened was Flanders giving Homer the petition and the police burning the marijuana.

Duffman OH YEAH
04-07-2002, 05:48 PM
4/5
all the stoned scenes were wonderful, i missed a few small pieces as my dinner was beign eaten. mmmmmmm dinnner. i missed a few key parts thouhg, basically the whoel thign of burns dying. um, whats up witt that? ill watch it again after x-fiels. over all i liekd it, all the jokes i did see i liked alot. best line: "WOAH, WE HAVE A KITCHEN?!?!"
great great jokes abotu beign stones, brings back alot of memories that i never knew i had. the prescription bongs was great. also great to see hans moleman again. ill post mopre later once i re watch the 3rd act. good to see homer at work again. but when are the kids gonna get back to school?

rock3880
04-07-2002, 05:48 PM
who's writing for the simpsons now? people who hate the simpsons? that, the medical marijuana episode, was just like watching any other sitcom on television. fans who have turned to the simpsons as the only offering of honesty and "the truth" about our world that can be found anywhere on television are now mulling about in disgust. there was almost nothing in that episode that was dealt with honestly, if not total pop garbage. the way they presented marijuana was a travesty to intelligent minds. the whole episode was based on a stereotype and even that was represented well. the show offered nothing positive to society and PROMOTED imitation and stupidity. and to say that that was the show's point is ridiculous, because they offered no honesty about the issue of medical marijuana or anything regarding marijuana. it seemed like the people that wrote that episode only get their information through television and sitcoms. it's like watching an old episode of dragnet and having them bust a pot house and having all the "potheads" strung out like they're on heroin. it was terrible. homer smokes a joint and then sees all these colors? what? was there LSD in that joint? marijuana does not have those effects on the body/brain. all that was was just repeating the pop stereotype of marijuana usage, which wouldn't be a bad thing if the episode showed how stupid that stereotype is or made fun of it, but they didn't, they promoted those moronic ideals. if i want to see fake pop garbage i would have watched "friends" or any other sitcom. this episode was a travesty and the only thing i can make out of it is that the writers are trying to bury the show by making its loyal viewers turn away in disgust.

Necromancer
04-07-2002, 05:49 PM
Originally posted by Cloud_Cole


I don't see how Phish could have hurt the show too much. They were only on for 2 minutes and I thought they did a very good job. The pothead comment was very funny too.

I really like this episode, one of my favorites this season. Homer's rainbow trip was absolutely hilarious. My favorite line was Otto's "Why do they call them fingers? I never see them fling. . . oh, there they go." Plus Homer's "I could smoke in the president's face and he would be groovin..." line. CBG's pop-up-video commments were also a nice touch. And as I said above, I feel that Phish did a good job as well. They had several humorous lines and they certainly didn't take away from the plot (I feel they added). One complaint I have is the way the story ended so abruptly. I also feel Mr. Burn's drowning was forced and a little disturbing. Besides that, I loved. I may be alone on this, but I thought this was a terrific episode. It gets a 5/5 from me. :smoking:

I didnt say they hurt the show i just said it started going down hill at that point..the fact that they suck doesnt help though

Splashmore
04-07-2002, 05:49 PM
2/5 - They could have done without the Burns act entirely and dealt with anything else. Homer's recovery, the townpeople's reaction.

Cole
04-07-2002, 05:49 PM
Originally posted by 666EvilHomer666


I didnt say they hurt the show i just said it started going down hill at that point..the fact that they suck doesnt help though

Geez, you seem open-minded.

radiationdude7
04-07-2002, 05:49 PM
Originally posted by Splashmore
I'd have to say that I enjoyed the first half of the episode mainly for some funny instances. Those include:
pop-up video with CBG
Ned and the kids praying on Marge's garden
Homer's relationship with the crows
Crow Diddy, Russel Crow, etc.
Group of crows is called a murder
Sweet sweet eye juices
Prescription bongs
"Objects may appear more edible..."
I could smoke in the president's face and he would be groovin...
Rainbow blood
Call waiting on the phone-line (predictable)
The audience looking confused when Homer says they took time away from their "jobs"
Marijuana is good for medical use or watching "The Matrix"
Otto referring to some marriage
They call em fingers but I've never seen them fing
Quiting cold turkey isn't as delicious as it sounds
I keep it as a reminder (Dentist note)

The problem is that there is virtually no controversey or debate about anything related to marijuana. The only thing
about Ned Flanders' opposing the pro-pot stance is his clipboard of signatures. And the most intelligent thing Lisa has to say about the issue
is, "that it smells like the art teachers' lounge." There is way too much time spent on Homer hanging out with Otto while stoned. The rally with
Phish isn't much of anything, but a waste of time. Phish plays a part of a song, and Homer goes up on stage and rants, only to learn that the
vote already took place -DUMB (an easy way for the writers to dodge any debate about the issue, which the episode should have been largely
based upon). The subplot about Homer's promotion is so out of place that I nearly forgot about it. He gets promoted to
VP because he laughs at Mr. Burn's jokes. After that, they spend so much time showing Homer stoned that in the last few minutes, they are
forced to cram some story about an IPO.


I agree, the first act was jam packed with great stuff but it went totally downhill from the middle. The slap part was the only good part about the 2nd half. The 2nd half seememd way rushed. If they had aobut 10 more minutes they could have had a good debate scene.

Speed-Bump
04-07-2002, 05:50 PM
I thought it was great.

good parts:
pop-up CBG
Homer laughing at Burns
The flashback
It's just a reminder
phish
the crows

elbarto36
04-07-2002, 05:51 PM
This episode was mediocre. There were some good jokes but the episode didn't do much for me. The plot jumped around and most of the stoned scenes were stupid. Although I did enjoy a lot of the jokes. I give it a 3/5. An average episode.

Drew
04-07-2002, 05:51 PM
This episode was hilarios, all about weed, gotta love it.
A+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Brent
04-07-2002, 05:52 PM
The 1st and 2nd act WERE GREAT, best of the season material. But the third act started off decent, but the whole Mr Burns dead thing added should've been scrapped, they should of ended it with Homer begging for Marijuana and having hard times and then just stops smoking it. Still, all those high scenes were HYSTERTICAL, so I'm going to give it a 4.5, third best of the season behind Half Decent Proposal and Bart Wants what it Wants. Almost a 5, but that last act just made me lower it down. ( I guess I'll vote a 4 for it)

or_smth
04-07-2002, 05:52 PM
Did anyone else think that the CBG pop-up thing was just a cheap attempt to get some laugh? It was pretty funny, but very unlike the Simpsons. Come to think of it, the whole episode was kind of unlike the Simpsons.

(If you will excuse the allusion) It felt like there was a weird air to it.

SNUH
04-07-2002, 05:53 PM
Woo-hoo! Two good ones in a row! The Simpsons are on a roll!

Loved the "Dirty Hoe," pop-up video-like stuff, the Flanders praying in the garden, the alpha-crow (a MURDER is correct), "that's not a worm" (worth a titter), "toke as needed," "smells like the art teacher's office," when Burns said Homers name (albeit by accident), and the line on Clinton (Jimmy Carter w/a Fox attitude).

The dog chomping at the crotch got a big laugh from my kids.

Overall, ::speaks like Monty Burns:: excellent!

IcE
04-07-2002, 05:56 PM
sort of like an unfunny episode of family guy....only good joke "crow bar"...that burns thing was horrible, 2/5

BlindPsychic
04-07-2002, 05:56 PM
http://slatetoad.hypermart.net/v12.jpg That had to be one of my favorite parts right there. Some one needs to make a .gif of him doing that.

Uncie Moe
04-07-2002, 05:59 PM
Well let's start off with the comedy factors, laugh wise this was a pretty decent episode. I really liked the scene with Homer getting freaked out by the scarecrow and coming back and smashing it up. The scene with the crows was ok but it was more on the unrealistic side I think the simpsons should get away from. I really liked the Pop Up video bit. The scene at Hibbert's was ok. Homer's flashback was funny though it was innaccurate(well I guess it's acceptable after the innaccuricies of The Blunder Years). Homer hanging out with Otto was a really good scene I thought. It was a great way to bring back a character who we havent seen in ages. Flanders was pretty funny in this episode. The whole Burns/Smithers Homer plot was pretty weak and Smither's went from being high to clean as soon as he remembered Burns was in the tub. My main problem with this episode was where is the contraversy? Nothing showed a debate or any intelligence on the subject...However, someone said something about how they missed the date to vote being a way to avoid the debate and pointless. But down here a similar convention was held pro marijuana and the problem was only 15 people showed up and almost all of them were late. Now I dunno if this happens all over, but if it does and that was some satire they were throwing in then I gotta give them credit because that is pretty funny. As far as being high, Homer's lines were 50-50. Some were great, some were horrible. Overall I'll give this episode a 7/10(based on this season). I liked this one alot better than last weeks.

J.Re*
04-07-2002, 05:59 PM
Who shot grampa's hat, bwuhuhuhuhuhu funny

Mafia
04-07-2002, 06:00 PM
1st Act: B+
2nd Act: A+
3rd Act: B

Zjraus
04-07-2002, 06:04 PM
I had fairly high expectations of this episode. I liked it in the beginning, but the end sort of confused me. Overall, a C, 3/5.

thecapecoddah
04-07-2002, 06:10 PM
3/5

Too wacky of a first act, solid 2nd act with some great animation, and a so-so final act that ended too abruptly.... I guess I wasn't aware of the time at the very end, as I was surprised that it ended with that Burns/Smithers/Homer dialogue, heh.

A few CBG pop-ups should be seen in every episode. :cool:

Splashmore
04-07-2002, 06:10 PM
Originally posted by rock3880
who's writing for the simpsons now? people who hate the simpsons? that, the medical marijuana episode, was just like watching any other sitcom on television. fans who have turned to the simpsons as the only offering of honesty and "the truth" about our world that can be found anywhere on television are now mulling about in disgust. there was almost nothing in that episode that was dealt with honestly, if not total pop garbage. the way they presented marijuana was a travesty to intelligent minds. the whole episode was based on a stereotype and even that was represented well. the show offered nothing positive to society and PROMOTED imitation and stupidity. and to say that that was the show's point is ridiculous, because they offered no honesty about the issue of medical marijuana or anything regarding marijuana. it seemed like the people that wrote that episode only get their information through television and sitcoms. it's like watching an old episode of dragnet and having them bust a pot house and having all the "potheads" strung out like they're on heroin. it was terrible. homer smokes a joint and then sees all these colors? what? was there LSD in that joint? marijuana does not have those effects on the body/brain. all that was was just repeating the pop stereotype of marijuana usage, which wouldn't be a bad thing if the episode showed how stupid that stereotype is or made fun of it, but they didn't, they promoted those moronic ideals. if i want to see fake pop garbage i would have watched "friends" or any other sitcom. this episode was a travesty and the only thing i can make out of it is that the writers are trying to bury the show by making its loyal viewers turn away in disgust.

interesting.

irv
04-07-2002, 06:14 PM
If you want to see facts and arguments for/against marijuana, read a fucking book. Stop using this as your only argument.

|RABiD|
04-07-2002, 06:14 PM
Dudes...we all need to face it...the show isn't as good as it was and its rare in the new seasons that we will see some seriousness in these new episodes. This episode was perfect for this kind seriousness but they failed yet again. The show is merely comedy now. Nothing else. If an episode with seriousness does air then thats great!

James
04-07-2002, 06:17 PM
A D+/C-. All of my expectations for combining an intelligent debate about medicinal marijuana were immediately squashed. It didn't have anything satirical about medicinal marijuana, and flew right by the topic!? :mad: There were funny parts throughout (isolatedly, albeit), densely packed, but that couldn't compensate for the rambling and wasted plot. It began with a needlessly long opener, ran into a topic it couldn't do anything intelligent with and wasted time on, and then rambled its way out? The Burns-as-a-puppet thing was laugh-out-loud funny, but they could've fitted it into another episode instead of cramming it in at the end of a wasted one. A wasted oppurtunity and a mess. 2/5.

Jessica Lovejoy
04-07-2002, 06:20 PM
Well, I turned on the television tonight with low expectations for this episode. Needless to say, my prediction came true. The storyline was all over the place and was pretty boring at that. The pothead jokes and the jokes in general all fell flat and seemed to go on and on and onnnn, especially the parts involving Otto. Yawn. 2/5. I expected much better. This was low, even for a season thirteen episode.

rock3880
04-07-2002, 06:23 PM
Originally posted by drew karaniuk
This episode was hilarios, all about weed, gotta love it.
A+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++


are you kidding me??? this episode had nothing to due with pot at all. not a thing, it was a joke, and that's not a joke.

Paranoid Android
04-07-2002, 06:25 PM
I thought this episode way okay. We got to see Otto for the first time in a long time, and for the majority of the episode no less. Homer was actually at work. I knew Phish wasn't going to be on for more than 2 minutes. You got to admit Cloud Cole you are kind of bias when you reviewed the episode. I mean, correct me If I read your post wrong, but it seemed as if you gave it a the best grade just because Phish was in it, and you overlooked all the wacky jokes. ;)

rock3880
04-07-2002, 06:28 PM
Originally posted by jesus plays his hits
If you want to see facts and arguments for/against marijuana, read a fucking book. Stop using this as your only argument.



----it's this kinda thinking that's terrible, "oh, it's only a TV show" hey, that's where 90% of the population gets their information, and to see it on a show that USED to mock that kind of thinking is a travesty, just like jesus

irv
04-07-2002, 06:36 PM
Jesus was the son of God. He died for you, motherfucker.

Blinky
04-07-2002, 06:39 PM
Everyone here who doesnt like this episode has to shut the **** up. If you did not like this episode, then you do not like comedy. Plain and simple it was funny. If everyone who disliked it so much could just stop expecting a good episode with a great intro and a "family" ending then go watch full house, then maybe you will get what you want. In the end, how i judge an episode is, DID IT MAKE ME LAUGH? In this case it did, a lot. This rant was about many of the past seasons in general, so dont throw flaws of tonites episode at me, when a joke in the episode doesnt go over to well (ie: st00pid, makes no sense, offends you[pussy]) you have to learn to brush it off, all of you will come here and post that one joke as the reason the episode sucked. Im sick and tired of enjoying an episode and then coming here expecting to see some happy simpsons fans, then seeing some of the same people over and over say that it sucked. "worst episode of the season"...dont you think that phrase kinda loses its purpose when you use it every week?

Wiggle Puppy
04-07-2002, 06:40 PM
I thought it kinda sucked.

irv
04-07-2002, 06:41 PM
Originally posted by Blinky
I LIKE PENIS, NOT VAGINA!!!!!!!

Splashmore
04-07-2002, 06:41 PM
Originally posted by Blinky
Everyone here who doesnt like this episode has to shut the **** up. If you did not like this episode, then you do not like comedy. Plain and simple it was funny. If everyone who disliked it so much could just stop expecting a good episode with a great into and a "family" ending then go watch full house, then maybe you will get what you want. In the end, how i judege an episode is, DID IT MAKE ME LAUGH? In this case it did, a lot. Im sick and tired of enjoying an episode and then coming here expecting to see some happy simpsons fans, then seeing some of the same people over and over say that it sucked. "worst episode of the season"...dont you think that phrase kinda loses its purpose when you use it every week?

As you can see, not everyone is going to judge an episode the same as you do.

Mafia
04-07-2002, 06:42 PM
some of you people demand perfection.

Jake
04-07-2002, 06:42 PM
Originally posted by jesus plays his hits
Jesus was the son of God. He died for you, motherfucker.

Can I get a hallilujah!!!!

irv
04-07-2002, 06:45 PM
No, you can't.

Tomacco
04-07-2002, 06:45 PM
Full review here, as usual:
www.thespringfieldshopper.com/reviewdabf11.htm

Did anyone else notice the double meaning of the episode's title? If not, read my review.

I can't think of anyone do use for my guide bio. Guess I'll go with the crows.

irv
04-07-2002, 06:46 PM
No shit, the dancing dead guy. Obviously.

rock3880
04-07-2002, 06:48 PM
Originally posted by jesus plays his hits
Jesus was the son of God. He died for you, motherfucker.


hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

okay, if you want to believe that, that's fine...god, hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Datoupee
04-07-2002, 06:48 PM
I agree 100% with Blinky. Don't come here and say how much you hate the show week after week. All of the shows are great and would make just about anybody laugh. Stop wanting perfection out of each episode.

My Grade 5 / 5.

irv
04-07-2002, 06:50 PM
God dammit, stop giving every episode an A+.

thecapecoddah
04-07-2002, 06:52 PM
He said 5/5, not an A+.... YOU ARE NOT THE REAL SON OF GOD. He would not make such a mistake!

Ned Flanders272
04-07-2002, 06:54 PM
not bad, i gave it a 4/5

Jake
04-07-2002, 06:55 PM
Originally posted by Blinky
Everyone here who doesnt like this episode has to shut the **** up. If you did not like this episode, then you do not like comedy. Plain and simple it was funny.

By your schizophrenic standards of comedy, a book of 'Yo Mamma Jokes', the Far Side', and ingredients to a box of Cheezitz is funny.

If everyone who disliked it so much could just stop expecting a good episode with a great into and a "family" ending then go watch full house, then maybe you will get what you want.

Fine. Play by your own rules: If I want a show that has nothing to do with reality, is full of one-dimensional characters and has endings only brought on by a time limit, I'll watch Family Guy.

In the end, how i judege an episode is, DID IT MAKE ME LAUGH? In this case it did, a lot. Im sick and tired of enjoying an episode and then coming here expecting to see some happy simpsons fans, then seeing some of the same people over and over say that it sucked. "worst episode of the season"...dont you think that phrase kinda loses its purpose when you use it every week?

Well, maybe because we have sense of what to laugh at (and not) and somethings don't amuse ALL people all of the time, no matter what you think of it.

irv
04-07-2002, 06:56 PM
Boo-yes, Grandmother!

DotheBartman
04-07-2002, 06:56 PM
Easily the strangest episode ever....I was hoping for some good satire, but there really wasn't any, and plot felt rather disjointed. There were some good yuks, including some scenes with Homer high that were actually funnier then the chilli peppers bender, but overall this one was just weird. I actually don't know what to rate it, because it was just confusing. I'll go with a "C+" for now, but who knows which way it'll sway once I see it a second time....

rock3880
04-07-2002, 06:57 PM
well said jake

Jake
04-07-2002, 06:59 PM
Originally posted by Simplor
some of you people demand perfection.

Nothing of perfection has been asked by anyone. Personally, as long as I feel my half-hour wasn't wasted watching an episode, I'm happy.

SPHH
04-07-2002, 07:01 PM
It was great. Best I've seen in a while. And yes, show some respect for the east coast.

rock3880
04-07-2002, 07:06 PM
Originally posted by Jake


Nothing of perfection has been asked by anyone. Personally, as long as I feel my half-hour wasn't wasted watching an episode, I'm happy.


my opinion is that my half an hour wasn't wasted because i learned what everyone else is watching and some thinking it was so great, but i'm unhappy by what the episode is saying, what's its discourse on marijuana, because people have posted that they like the "stoner" parts, even though, there were none in the episode, because nothing was an honest depiction of weed. now, it's these people who then turn around and smoke and imitate these super stereotyped behaviors. and that is a negative for society, because it doesn't promote anything new, and it puts down a plant that CAN be very helpful to many people, and i'm not just talking about glacoma; like anxiety, like depression, like entrapment in a society that preaches imitation. besides, there is no such thing as a good or bad drug.

Mafia
04-07-2002, 07:06 PM
Originally posted by Jake


Nothing of perfection has been asked by anyone. Personally, as long as I feel my half-hour wasn't wasted watching an episode, I'm happy.


understandable. it is certainly a blown oppertunity, but it is better than most episodes this year.

:bang:
04-07-2002, 07:08 PM
First act was meh, third blew, but the second act was a homerun humor-wise. Not too much intelligence in this ep, but man I laughed straight through act 2. B+

Handsome Pete
04-07-2002, 07:08 PM
Eh, I gave it 3/5. Some parts were funny, but I didn't really like the first part of the episode. I dunno, I just got home from my trip to Hawaii and I'm really tired, so I'm not in the mood to think right now...

Mr. Plow
04-07-2002, 07:11 PM
my favorite scene was when homer was high and he was shaving. The shaver was smiling and after he shaved rainbows came out of his face. for some odd reason i just kept laughing at that

brancely
04-07-2002, 07:18 PM
I thought the best part was when marge shooed the Flanderses, then they came back to pray some more! :LOL:

Jake
04-07-2002, 07:19 PM
Originally posted by rock3880



my opinion is that my half an hour wasn't wasted because i learned what everyone else is watching and some thinking it was so great, but i'm unhappy by what the episode is saying, what's its discourse on marijuana, because people have posted that they like the "stoner" parts, even though, there were none in the episode, because nothing was an honest depiction of weed.

The show's "Homer gets trippy" , albeit a bit absurdly, is the stereotype you said was negatively promoted, is somewhat how the uneducated nonunderstanding average schmoe might think the person who uses the medicinal marijuana reacts when taking their medication. THIS is what the writers wanted to portray with their stereotype, not the ACTUAL effects of the legal use of the drug. If they shown the actually use of the drug without any exageration, it would've been a very boring episode. In conjunction, some Austrailains were hopping mad at their depiction of their country in "Bart Vs Austraila" because they thought The SImpsons was promoting their country as being synononimous with the 'colorful' stereotypes in the episode.

I hated it becasue of the retarded third act (I felt like Homer and Smithers, both smiling foolishly waiting for a moment when I'm supposed to laugh) with Burns's dancing and slappings.

Jake

Blinky
04-07-2002, 07:19 PM
By your schizophrenic standards of comedy, a book of 'Yo Mamma Jokes', the Far Side', and ingredients to a box of Cheezitz is funny.

ummmmm? whats your point, Yo mamma jokes are funny. The Far side is by one of the greatest comedic comic writers and......cheezits? come on, dont bring your only food group into this debate.

Fine. Play by your own rules: If I want a show that has nothing to do with reality, is full of one-dimensional characters and has endings only brought on by a time limit, I'll watch Family Guy.

hmmmmmm.....funny how i didnt mention any of the things you are talking about but fine, watch Family Guy, maybe you will learn to laugh. Not all jokes have to be perfect in every aspect, if it makes me laugh im happy.

Well, maybe because we have sense of what to laugh at (and not) and somethings don't amuse ALL people all of the time, no matter what you think of it.

please...you couldnt recognize comedy, even if you were laughing at it.

Mafia
04-07-2002, 07:20 PM
Originally posted by Joshman
my favorite scene was when homer was high and he was shaving. The shaver was smiling and after he shaved rainbows came out of his face. for some odd reason i just kept laughing at that

i laughed because homer though his blood was rainbows.

Tirefire
04-07-2002, 07:22 PM
Originally posted by Joshman
my favorite scene was when homer was high and he was shaving. The shaver was smiling and after he shaved rainbows came out of his face. for some odd reason i just kept laughing at that

That's the part that was nagging me in the back of my head that I knew I really liked, but couldn't remember; it was a very nice part of the ep. This ep had enough good stuff that I could not give it a 2, it's somewhere in the 2.5-3 range for me.

Mafia
04-07-2002, 07:25 PM
was it really that below average if you enjoyed the first two acts? Third act was eh. It was okay. Burns shoulda stayed dead. it coulda ended with homer smoking it up at the end anyway.

Gagnonsux
04-07-2002, 07:25 PM
I really thought the first and second acts were hilarious, while the third was pretty cruddy. I laughed the hardest I have at the Simpsons for a long time during the second act. Overall, the plot was weak and the final act was lame, but the overall humor of the first two acts nullified the problems of the episode. Best one sinc eBart Wants What It Wants! (A-)

Cole
04-07-2002, 07:32 PM
Originally posted by Paranoid Android
You got to admit Cloud Cole you are kind of bias when you reviewed the episode. I mean, correct me If I read your post wrong, but it seemed as if you gave it a the best grade just because Phish was in it, and you overlooked all the wacky jokes. ;)

You're right Paranoid Android. I admit it. If Phish hadn't have been on it, my grade probably would have been atleast 2 points lower. I did overlook alot of the stupid jokes just becuase the fact that my two loves were combined (Phish + The Simpsons). And a little bit of my defensiveness as a fan kicked in. I saw people attacking Phish and I got a little defensive about it and overcompensated with my review. Having calmed down, and watched the episode again -- I now give it a 4/5.

RexDart
04-07-2002, 07:35 PM
Best moments were surely Homer with his crow friends. I was impressed at seeing a Lorenzo de Medici joke, that almost threw me off my sofa.

The treatment of marijuana was also good. The show didn't fall to politically correct pressure. Marijuana wasn't portrayed as addictive, which is accurate. The "negative" side effects were played up a little too much perhaps, but not to the point of seeming like an after-school special. The FCC probably wouldn't have allowed the episode to air if it hadn't shown at least a few negative effects. Lisa noting that Homer might be a better father if he were stoned all the time was a priceless moment.

The flaw in the episode was the way it ended. I suppose I didn't expect Burns to really stay dead, yet the ending was just ridiculous and abrupt. I generally love wackiness of that sort, but only when the show is mocking itself in the process.

The first two segments were great, but the last part drags this episode down.
3/5

skittlebrau
04-07-2002, 07:37 PM
Boy this episode really blew. I didn't think it was all that great. The addition of Phish didn't really add too much to the plot. Yes, I did laugh at Homer shaving and going to work all trippy, plus the prescription bongs, but those are about the only good parts. The one thing that really pissed me off is Homer screaming at having to imagine Burns' naked, then screaming loudly at imagining him with a big funny hat. We then see him curled up on the floor in a fetal position. It was Scully revisited. I give this episode a 2/5, only for the shaving and trip to work part, and the prescription bongs.

Mike Scully
04-07-2002, 07:41 PM
Originally posted by Simplor
some of you people demand perfection.

Yeah, and our demands used to be satisfied week in and week out.

Jake
04-07-2002, 07:49 PM
Originally posted by Blinky


ummmmm? whats your point, Yo mamma jokes are funny. The Far side is by one of the greatest comedic comic writers and......cheezits? come on, dont bring your only food group into this debate.

My point, which seem to be missing, is that some people will laugh at anything that even attempts to be funny. And some people, because they dont know any better, think tonight's ep is the most brilliant thing since Pauly Shore's "Biodome"

hmmmmmm.....funny how i didnt mention any of the things you are talking about but fine, watch Family Guy, maybe you will learn to laugh. Not all jokes have to be perfect in every aspect, if it makes me laugh im happy.

You mentioned the "Family"-esque ending to which you told people to go watch Full House, right? Or are you forgetting already?

Laugh at FG? First, I'd have to shut off my brain, turn on my fart-joke cortex and then, flop back on the couch and feel my ass grow before I'd find that show funny, or even watchable.

please...you couldnt recognize comedy, even if you were laughing at it.

First, my problem with comedy in the modern Simpsons is in my sig.

Second, your attitude is also proving another hypothosis I've had--given the fact that a lot of people around here these days seem to get nothing more than laughs out of the show anymore, I'm pretty convinced that the characters aren't as complex, and interesting as they used to be.

Jake

Blinky
04-07-2002, 07:53 PM
Jesus christ your over-analasis sickens me. Why do you have to pick apart every minor detail of a show or a joke with a negative attitude?

Sure your opinion may be favoured among the posters here, but i do not care, for if I also agreed with you, I would not enjoy The Simpsons and how it presently is......hell i probably would not enjoy Television.

thecapecoddah
04-07-2002, 07:58 PM
Originally posted by Blinky
Jesus christ your over-analasis sickens me. Why do you have to pick apart every minor detail of a show or a joke with a negative attitude?

Suggestion: Never view the more-recent SNPP.com episode capsules. ;)

rock3880
04-07-2002, 07:58 PM
Originally posted by Blinky
Jesus christ your over-analasis sickens me. Why do you have to pick apart every minor detail of a show or a joke with a negative attitude?

Sure your opinion may be favoured among the posters here, but i do not care, for if I also agreed with you, I would not enjoy The Simpsons and how it presently is......hell i probably would not enjoy Television.


hmmm, i don't know if i need to say anything here, television is not to enjoy, its only purpose has, is and will always be to SELL, SELL, SELL....however, we can find some positive side effects from it, like older simpsons episodes that mock out those very ideas.

ultimately, television is just another form of culture

rock3880
04-07-2002, 07:59 PM
jake, you have been one of the only intelligent people here to argue with and i applaud that

Mike Scully
04-07-2002, 08:06 PM
I agree with all the people who say that there wasn't enough intelligent debate about the legalization of marijuana in this episode. Well, maybe "debate" isn't the right word. But classic episodes used a very simple formula for these controversial episodes: mock the absurdity of both sides of the issue through a satirically exaggerated storyline. There was some promise in the second act, when Homer immediately sees colors and hallucinations affter smoking, but it just wasn't enough. Remember "The Cartridge Family" or "Itchy and Scratchy and Marge"? I think some people have forgotten that there's more to a classic Simpsons episode than a few mildly funny cheap gags loosely conected in some kind of story.

This gets a C, 2/5, and that's being generous. It's a shame, I was really pleased with Mr. Vitti's last work, The Old Man And The Key.

Jake
04-07-2002, 08:08 PM
Originally posted by Blinky
Jesus christ your over-analasis sickens me. Why do you have to pick apart every minor detail of a show or a joke with a negative attitude?

Since when has anyalizing a show have to be SOLEY done 'with a negative' attitude? Hell, don't take my word for it:

"I'm glad the show attracts sufficient intrest for people to analyze it. For all I know, they may be more right than the writers and directors who made it!" -- Sam Simon, Co-Creator of OFF.

Sure your opinion may be favoured among the posters here, but i do not care, for if I also agreed with you, I would not enjoy The Simpsons and how it presently is.

Well, duh.

Blinky
04-07-2002, 08:15 PM
Originally posted by Jake
Well, duh.

That statement implies that you do not enjoy the Simpsons at all...then why the hell watch? I would rather you not watch it so I do not have to read your comments on how incredibally un-entertaining it was.

Jake
04-07-2002, 08:40 PM
Originally posted by Blinky


That statement implies that you do not enjoy the Simpsons at all...then why the hell watch? I would rather you not watch it so I do not have to read your comments on how incredibally un-entertaining it was.

Unlike you drooling fanboy types, just because it is the Simpsons, I feel it DOES NOT "make it better than all the crap on TV." The fact that is the Simpsons means I'll watch it, but doesn't make the bad episodes better, like tonight's. Furthermore, when people like you scream: "It's supposed to be funny, laugh! If you're not laughing why the fuck are you here and why the fuck are you watching the show!?!?!?", do you think you deserve a 'happy' retort with that derse fandom?

Since you choose to only see the bad in what I write, I suggest that you go back and read my reviews of "Half Decent Proposal" and "The Old man and the Key." I gave both of those 5 outta 5's and I thought Season 12 was the best season since 7.

Enter The Moleman
04-07-2002, 08:54 PM
well it was better then most eps this season,I didn't really expect them to do a "weekend at bernies" parody at the end <ugh> terrible ending to what could have been a good ep.The whole haven't seen Barney was disturbing as well, so is Barney dead or what kind of a cheap joke. Otherwise a good ep.

:)

Cole
04-07-2002, 09:07 PM
Originally posted by Enter The Moleman
well it was better then most eps this season,I didn't really expect them to do a "weekend at bernies" parody at the end <ugh> terrible ending to what could have been a good ep.The whole haven't seen Barney was disturbing as well, so is Barney dead or what kind of a cheap joke. Otherwise a good ep. :)

Yeah, the Barney joke disturbed me too. Especially when they showed the bloody button. . . and I think the ending could have been muched better. I think the Phish concert where medicinal marijuana became illegal again should have been closer to the climax. With the ending being Homer giving up drugs and beign with his family. The whole Mr. Burns dead thing thing should have been omited or atleast cut-down.

rock3880
04-07-2002, 09:08 PM
Originally posted by The Jolly Bengali
I agree with all the people who say that there wasn't enough intelligent debate about the legalization of marijuana in this episode. Well, maybe "debate" isn't the right word. But classic episodes used a very simple formula for these controversial episodes: mock the absurdity of both sides of the issue through a satirically exaggerated storyline. There was some promise in the second act, when Homer immediately sees colors and hallucinations affter smoking, but it just wasn't enough. Remember "The Cartridge Family" or "Itchy and Scratchy and Marge"? I think some people have forgotten that there's more to a classic Simpsons episode than a few mildly funny cheap gags loosely conected in some kind of story.

This gets a C, 2/5, and that's being generous. It's a shame, I was really pleased with Mr. Vitti's last work, The Old Man And The Key.


nice point

Cosmo Kramer
04-07-2002, 09:22 PM
Second best episode of the season.
4/5.

DotheBartman
04-07-2002, 09:29 PM
Originally posted by Blinky
In the end, how i judge an episode is, DID IT MAKE ME LAUGH?

Since when is humor the only aspect of the show?

Duffman OH YEAH
04-07-2002, 09:36 PM
k, i rewatced it and ima add a few comments:

i didnt like the "trippy" scenes, to my knowledge/experiences weed does not acheive tha effect, unless he was msoking some seriosu fuckin dank shit, i dont think thatd happen
i did though enjoy some true stoner parts "woah, we have a kitchen???" and "hey marge, c'mere this guy does a great flanders, you have the mustache, and the 'didly' now do wiggum"
the last act, um, where the hell did that come from? 1st and 2nd acts were good, 3rd woudlve been good if it fit the rest of the story. over all a very good ep though 4.75/5

and to everyone who bitches abotu every episode and nitpicks every last joke as much as possible and the peole that bitch about peopel that bitch about it, i agree with the latter. yes, the eps arent as good as the earlier seasons, but i read the reviews every week and half the people whine about every little detail, and as soemone said if u hate it so much, why watch it? and yes, there wasnt much "intellignet discussion of marajuana use" yeah, so? 1st off, were u really expecting it, i mean, look at the past few eps, and 2nd, its a comedy show, if u want a seriosu discussion about it go to CNN. again, i do admit these havent been the greatest eps of the series 13 yr run, but for all of you who give every ep a 1/5 every week, why wast your time by watchign and posting and wastign our time by having to read how one joke was off which ruined the entire epsiode.

rock3880
04-07-2002, 09:50 PM
Originally posted by Duffman OH YEAH
k, i rewatced it and ima add a few comments:

as soemone said if u hate it so much, why watch it? and yes, there wasnt much "intellignet discussion of marajuana use" yeah, so? 1st off, were u really expecting it, i mean, look at the past few eps, and 2nd, its a comedy show, if u want a seriosu discussion about it go to CNN.

well, A: ypu have to watch it to know you hate it, B: i WAS expecting it through past experience, albiet not too recently, but the simpsons have usually handled drugs with enough honesty, and 3: it is not, repeat IS NOT a comedy show, it's supposed to be a social satire, a social commentary posing as a prime time cartoon comedy, and D: no, you could not find any reasonable discussion about drugs or anything on CNN, it's all about scaremongering and sensationalism and they have the same view on drugs as "this is your brain, this is your brain on drugs" egg in the frying pan, and "if you use drugs, you're supporting terrorism" ads; the point is, they have no fucken clue. and lastly, just a side point, they say there's this "war on drugs." hmm, lets see what that implies: well it implies, there IS a war over drugs, and the people using the drugs are winning it. makes you rethink everything you know about drugs, if the users are winning over the non-users. hmmmmm, but this is a simpsons post, so "don't have a cow man."

Mike Scully
04-07-2002, 09:56 PM
Originally posted by Duffman OH YEAH
k, i rewatced it and ima add a few comments:

i didnt like the "trippy" scenes, to my knowledge/experiences weed does not acheive tha effect, unless he was msoking some seriosu fuckin dank shit, i dont think thatd happen
i did though enjoy some true stoner parts "woah, we have a kitchen???" and "hey marge, c'mere this guy does a great flanders, you have the mustache, and the 'didly' now do wiggum"
the last act, um, where the hell did that come from? 1st and 2nd acts were good, 3rd woudlve been good if it fit the rest of the story. over all a very good ep though 4.75/5

and to everyone who bitches abotu every episode and nitpicks every last joke as much as possible and the peole that bitch about peopel that bitch about it, i agree with the latter. yes, the eps arent as good as the earlier seasons, but i read the reviews every week and half the people whine about every little detail, and as soemone said if u hate it so much, why watch it? and yes, there wasnt much "intellignet discussion of marajuana use" yeah, so? 1st off, were u really expecting it, i mean, look at the past few eps, and 2nd, its a comedy show, if u want a seriosu discussion about it go to CNN. again, i do admit these havent been the greatest eps of the series 13 yr run, but for all of you who give every ep a 1/5 every week, why wast your time by watchign and posting and wastign our time by having to read how one joke was off which ruined the entire epsiode.

No, you're missing the point. We don't want discussion or new ideas about the issue of marijuana legalixation. We don't want to be told what side to take. We just want mockery and satire of both sides of the issues.

As I mentioned before, consider the episode Itchy and Scratchy and Marge, which dealt with cartoon violence. Peole have been complainiing for ages that TV keeps kids from doing more constructive activities and playing outdoors. Well, in that episode, as soon as Itchy and Scratchy ceased to entertain, there was an absolutely exaggerated, sarcastic, and absurd scene where all the kids are mending fences, helping old people cross the street, and playing ball. It was a very funny slam on that argument. Yet, in the same episode, Maggie is seriously being influenced by television violence.

Episodes like that and Cartridge Family are way more effective and thought-provoking than anything you can get at CNN. Weekend at Burnsies was just silly; it was funny, yes, but could have been way better.

Rowdy
04-07-2002, 10:05 PM
Funny stuff in the episode:

Homer giving Lisa tons of money to play the sax.

The part about a group of crows being called a murder.




That's it. This episode was just plain unfunny in my opinion. The storyline constantly jumped around with each act being totally different from the other two. As stated by many others, the show never even tackled the current issue about medical marijuana and instead focused on a ton of jokes about being high. Next to Worst Episode Ever! (The worst is still "New Kids on the Blecch" IMO)

Very sad thing: For me, it's been a complete downhill from "The Old Man and the Key" to tonight's episode. The show just keeps falling into television mediocrity. :(


First Sixteen Season 12 Episodes: 49/80
First Sixteen Season 13 Episodes: 52/80

Mike Scully
04-07-2002, 10:27 PM
Originally posted by Blinky


That statement implies that you do not enjoy the Simpsons at all...then why the hell watch? I would rather you not watch it so I do not have to read your comments on how incredibally un-entertaining it was.

Why does it so offend you if some people hold the recent episodes to high expectations? Most people here are very open-mineded to the new episodes, and appreciate the writers for making them laugh, even if the show isn't what it used to be. Jake is part of a dying breed of fans who demand character depth or intelligent satire every episode. Go back a few years to alt.tv.simpsons, and all you'll find are extremely hard-to-satisy nitpicky purists who said the show sucked after the 4th season, and tore apart any episode that was slightly off from reality. Hell, back in 1997, I was the only one defending the new episodes from Jake and Ondre Lombard. Yes, most of those folks stopped waching the show around the 10th and 11th seasons, but people like Jake or Chris Pfeiler still have sticked with the show and still enjoy some new episodes, and I'd say that's pretty open-minded and characteristic of a fan, and they give us some perspective of what the more hard-core fans saw in the show.

nathaniel
04-07-2002, 11:06 PM
i'm sort of unsure about giving the episode a 3/3. is that like 5/5? is eric on the chronic? do i care too much?

mike
04-07-2002, 11:09 PM
Wow...where to start.

I have been here only a few weeks, but man, some of you guys take this show way too seriously. I love the Simpons (I think after Cheers and the Honeymooners, it is the funniest show ever) and it is one of the few shows that I look forward to watching. I also love watching the reruns that fox shows in the evening.

The reason I like the show is because it is funny. I want to be entertained.

If you didn't think it was funny, ok, I can understand that. But some of you are like the movie critic on tv. They love these boring foreign films because they are artsy and the camera work is incredible and so on. Then they will review a comedy and, because they are looking at it so critically, they miss what the purpose of the movie is: to entertain us.

Some on here seem to want a realistic Homer on pot, and like someone said before, that would basically be him laying around the whole episode. Who wants to see that?

Some of you are obviously potheads or condone the use of pot. I could care less if you do it or not, but not everyone agrees with you.

So they make an episode showing pot as great and wonderful, well then those that oppose it would be offended because it is condoning the use of an illegal drug (whether you agree with this or not doesn't matter).

Ok, so say instead, they show that pot is bad and they show the negative effects of the drug (which there are), then all the pro pot people here would be upset because it doesn't represent their view which they feel is correct.

So this episode was doomed from the beginning in my view. Someone said that they would have liked to see a mockery of both sides, which is a fair argument.
But most of those that complained about not seeing more of debate wanted just that, a serious debate. The simpsons isn't a place for that.

If you want to argue about pot, I can argue all day about it's negative effects on people, because a lot of my friends have done or do it.

As far as the show, I thought it was funny. I don't care about innaccuracies in the plot or if such and such made perfect sense, because it is a cartoon and a comedy. I live in the real world I don't need to see a cartoon mirroring reality to perfection. That is what all that other garbage they put on tv at night is for.

I don't really know a lot about phish, because I don't like their music, so I can't hold that against the show.

The ending was weird and strange, but I thought it was funny. I have seen better episodes, but this one wasn't that bad. On a scale of 1 to 10 I would give it an 8.

I am not flamming anyone or think less of them because of what they said, but I just don't understand why, like someone said, you would even bother watching a show that you think is so terrible. Peace.

Mike Scully
04-07-2002, 11:10 PM
Originally posted by Duffman OH YEAH

yes, there wasnt much "intellignet discussion of marajuana use" yeah, so? 1st off, were u really expecting it, i mean, look at the past few eps

Well, to be honest, yes, yes I was expecting something good. I mean, look at some of the episodes we were getting earlier this season: Sweets And Sour Marge (admittedly very wacky, but well-thougt out and a lot of fun), Jaws Wired Shut, Half-Decent Proposal. For a short while I thought I was back in the era when we were getting great episodes every single week (but then, The Bart Wants What It Wants brought us back into the style of modern seasons). And here we had Al Jean and Jon Vitti, two of the most respected men on staff, working on an overdue episode with great potential. I was really disappointed.

Calloway
04-08-2002, 06:31 AM
I thought the episode was great up until the end. What should have happened is Mr. Burns accidently finds Homer's reminder pot and Homer loses his promotion, he goes home and realizes all the money he lost buying "munchies". He faces the stress of recovery plus money woes(from the loss of his promotion, and his spendings) and almost forced to go back to smoking but his family changes his mind. Anyway I the first act was a 4.0, The second was a 4.5 and the third was a 2.5. All in all I will give this episode a 3.5, and vote 3

Citizen Kang
04-08-2002, 06:35 AM
This episode was great. So very funny. Yes, the plot jumped around a lot but the jokes were too good and covered for that.

As for the Marijuana issue - They didn't cover it very well. There are so many more ways they could have handled the issue by presenting both side equally. But in the end it was like Marijuana was the bad guy which is futher form the truth.

And I'd like to challenge anyone on this board who disagrees with medical marijuana or marijuana use in general.

Best parts:

Carl talking about how he almost died by alcohol poisoning. A great example of the hypocracy of the of the US Governmment to allow one substance that has been proven time and time again to be detramental to your health yet keep another substance that has 4700 of medical research behind it illegal.

Mr. Burns as a puppet killed me. That was classic.

A terific episode even though the medical marijuana isue could have been delt with differently. 5/5

AND PLEASE SUPPORT THE MILLION MARIJUANA MARCH IN YOUR TOWN. IT TAKES PLACE ALL OVER THE WORLD ON MAY 4, 2002.

WWW.CURES-NOT-WARS.ORG

fenfool
04-08-2002, 06:49 AM
A bit disjointed, but that's been the norm for the last couple seasons.

Having not heard the highly-touted Phish before, this was my first exposure...and I was not impressed at all...they didn't even sound like they could play very well, perhaps one has to be on the wacky tobaccy to listen to them. Their part in the episode was kind of funny though.

I was surprised Lisa didn't have a more activ(ist)e role in this ep. I thought Ned's reaction to Homer's asking him to read the Bible to him was great!

The final act seemed like a new episode, very strange. I gave it a 3/5.

inflatablehomer
04-08-2002, 07:12 AM
Very funny episode, but the story was a little screwy.
Afterward I was just sitting there. It's over? it didn't make a lick of scence. I do give it a 4079 out of 5000.

blueduck37
04-08-2002, 07:52 AM
Homer the pothead.... I never thought I'd see the day. :uhh:

This episode (more of a three-act than most) was just too odd for my tastes.
Still.... it did make me laugh out loud a few times.

Overall, 3 out of 5. Not a bad ep, but there have been better this season.

Funniest bits:
1. CBG 'Pop-Up Video' thing
2. Flanders' Wiggum impression

Kamikaze_chimp
04-08-2002, 08:17 AM
I give the episode a 4/5. Mr. Burns was hilarious this episode, the dancing and slapping were great. also the crows with Homer was pretty funny.

Jake
04-08-2002, 08:36 AM
Originally posted by mike
Wow...where to start.

If you didn't think it was funny, ok, I can understand that. But some of you are like the movie critic on tv. They love these boring foreign films because they are artsy and the camera work is incredible and so on. Then they will review a comedy and, because they are looking at it so critically, they miss what the purpose of the movie is: to entertain us.

Well, if you're an expert of what is entertaining, then you'd realize there's many LEVELS of what is entertaining. There's some who consider biting satire along with deep social commentary entertaining, then there's some who consider HOmer being stoned, blown up and tortured to be entertaining (not me). The earlier was truly entertaining, IMO--the latter is cheap disposable entertainment.

Some on here seem to want a realistic Homer on pot, and like someone said before, that would basically be him laying around the whole episode. Who wants to see that?

While noone wanted to see that, I doubt people were expecting a cartoonified parody of Homer bouncing around from weird situation to weird situation while whacked out of his mind.



The Simpsons is/was NOT ONLY a comedy and it NEVER WAS a perfect mirror of the real world despite what the modern 'fans' say to downplay what the show was. Not surprisingly, the current defenders of the show who think, nay DEMAND, its only purpose whatsoever is to have gag after gag after gag...'cuz it's a cartoon!'.

[B]I am not flamming anyone or think less of them because of what they said, but I just don't understand why, like someone said, you would even bother watching a show that you think is so terrible. Peace.

Because after watching the show for 8 damn good years, plus seeing those episodes in reruns, you have some hope a scene, or bit of dialog will have the same bitterly ironic, or satirical tone that the show gave us for the first eight seasons.

Jake

Wavy Gravy
04-08-2002, 09:29 AM
Good episode. All I can say right now. I'm in computer class, and this kid keeps turning off my computer. 4/5.

Mike Scully
04-08-2002, 10:32 AM
Originally posted by mike
Wow...where to start.

I have been here only a few weeks, but man, some of you guys take this show way too seriously. I love the Simpons (I think after Cheers and the Honeymooners, it is the funniest show ever) and it is one of the few shows that I look forward to watching. I also love watching the reruns that fox shows in the evening.

The reason I like the show is because it is funny. I want to be entertained.

If you didn't think it was funny, ok, I can understand that. But some of you are like the movie critic on tv. They love these boring foreign films because they are artsy and the camera work is incredible and so on. Then they will review a comedy and, because they are looking at it so critically, they miss what the purpose of the movie is: to entertain us.

That's an oversimplification; no fan thinks that way; at least, no fan that has sticked with the show for 13 years.

I enjoy many episodes that were really wacky or silly, and simply made me laugh. For example, look at Sweets And Sour Marge this season. It had some incredibly far-out elements (Homer climbing a pyramid of people, a vampire residing in Springfield), but I had very few complaints against that episode. The jokes were well-thought out and the story worked, and it was a lot of fun. Even stupid stuff like Frink's operation "HOYVEN MAVIN" made me laugh. And just last week, I responded to someone who hated Blame It On Lisa, because I thought his reviews was a bit overanalytical of an episode that was meant to be whimsical and a farce.

But Weekend at Burnsies was an episode that tried to take on a serious topic, ripe for intelligent satire and mockery, and it failed. I didn't want a bunch of easy laughs; I just didn't find the gags that funny.

skittlebrau
04-08-2002, 12:14 PM
Well, I watched it again a second time, and my mark improved ever so slightly, but I'm still sticking with my 2/5. It just didn't do it for me. Something is amiss and I don't know what, but it just wasn't a great episode.

waffles
04-08-2002, 12:17 PM
great episode,
Lisa's saxaphone would make a great pipe...
the rainbow blood rocked.

Phoney McRing Ring
04-08-2002, 12:32 PM
Blinky and Mike dude, i totally agree with you man...

these idiots post week after week, i had to respond because of what you said...they continue to bash every freakin episode that comes out(dont give me your past posts saying you put 5/5) and then their come back to that is...no, because we used to always get quality episodes back in season whatever...I love when i read a post of some one that says, "the ONLY funny parts were..." and they were the most pointless jokes in the episode, compared too other stuff..if you thought the only funny part was Homer throwing lisa money to play the sax...you got serious problems.

THen you have the people that cant take a random joke as funny...when the ghostbusters theme played, it was meant to be a strange funny joke and some retard was like, "they just ran out of time and had to fill the last minute" BS! You either didn't laugh at that joke because A. you hate ghostbusters or B. you are Jake, waiting for the second coming of the "great years"

And secondly, Jake...Dissing Family Guy and then saying you do have a sense of humor, wake up man! Family Guy is one of the most creative shows on television, too bad FOX puts more effort into that 80s show.

you should, and i am, be so glad Simpsons after 13 freakin seasons is still on tv. What is wrong with you people...some are saying, end the show now, i turned it off mid episode. Ever notice when Comic Book guy made fun of people like you, saying something along the lines in a itchy convention of, "excuse me, in episode 2324whatever, itchy played scratchy's rib cage and the 3rd note he played was an A, but it should have been a D"..i think thats Matt G's way of saying, lighten up, its just a freak TV SHOW!!



HEYOOOOOOOH,

Tomacco
04-08-2002, 12:45 PM
One question: What's the point? What is the point of all this!?

This debate about how the show's slide comes up EVERY SINGLE WEEK after a new episode airs, for the past three years! And what good has it done? After last season, I have learned to just sit back and enjoy the show and appreciate how damn good it is in its thirtheenth season. THIRTEEN! Can you believe that!? And truthfully, the new style of the show this season kind of appeals to another side of the type of comedy I like. Of course, I love the smart stuff of the earlier years, but lately, their semi-sarcastic, exaggerated style of humor has given my many laugh-out-loud moments. For me, this is better stuff than seasons 10-12, because it seemed like in those years, they were trying to do certain things and it didn't work (like in "Make Room for Lisa", they tried to make it sentimental, but it sucked). But this season has its own feel. The current episodes kind of feel like a celebration of the whole show in general, with lots of fun and funny episodes.

Duffman OH YEAH
04-08-2002, 12:55 PM
do you know what wouldve rocked???? if at the phish concert where homer was talkign bout weed, if JAY AND SILENT BOB were in the crowd

Bluesman
04-08-2002, 01:45 PM
Unlucky 13 indeed...

Smilin'JoeFission
04-08-2002, 02:13 PM
I was late to post my review, when the rest of the family hogs the PC, but anyway here it is;

I thought this episode was OK. It definetely did not tackle the whole issue of medical marijuana the way I wanted to, but it did a better job than I anticipated. What I mean is that I was looking for more discussion and debate about its controversy, but instead it was too pro-weed, and didn't show (besides Ned's petition) the other side of the argument. That being said, I will continue my reveiw;

The First Act-

The story started off great, with the family discussing the genetically altered vegetables. Homer's remark about the "Baby Corn" was great. I was glad that Maggie was featured a lot in this part, as we've havent seen enough of her this season. The crows flocking to Homer was an interesting turn, and turning against him was well done too. One question though, Is Barney dead?
The best jokes were the Flanderses kneeling before the scarecrow frame, and the CBG pop-up dealie, especially "Who shot Grampa's Hat?" that joke was especially made for the online Simpson geek community!

The Second Act-

The story picked up well with Homer at Doc Hibbert's office. The flashback was funny, and great with a young, leaner Wiggum and Lenny&Carl with afros. The best line of this part was Lisa's "It smeels like the art teacher's room!!!" Homer singing "Smoke on the Water was funny too. This episode also marks(I think) the first time Homer was in the plant at his sector the entire season. Ned's impersonation of Wiggum was funny, and dead-on. But not better than Homer's "No!!! Do Wiggum!!!"

The third act-

OK-The Phish appearance was not that good, for all of you who got so exited that they were going to perform. They had one good line-which was the scene with Hans Moleman. Pronouncing Pot Head wrong was just dumb. By far, the best part of the final act was Burns. Him as a lifeless puppet was well done, especially when he was dancing the Charleston!!! The other funnniest scenes were the barber hair, and Bill Clinton. The ending was good, too. I thought it would be a stupid "Dancing ending" like the last two episodes.
[for the ending,]Mr. Burns said it best-"Excellent"

Overall Grade- B minus
It was not as bad as I thought it would be. The Phish appearance neither improved or ruined the episode, pretty much it was just a filler to my eyes. The treatment of the controverial topic was, as I already posted, not what I wished for, go ahead and call me a conservative right-wing dumbass, I'm ready. But, all the good jokes and humor pushed this episode's grade up a little, so B- is what I'll give it.

Wiggle Puppy
04-08-2002, 02:38 PM
Good thing Phish was only in it for 30 seconds.

Mike Scully
04-08-2002, 02:56 PM
Before appearing as completely ungrateful, I'll note that there were quite a few jokes from last night's episode that I really liked.

Once Homer starts smoking the medicinal marijuana, he imeediately goes on an acid trip; his shaving razor talks to him, and he sees rainbows everywhere. People noted that this is not what would happen if Homer was smoking marijuana. That's the whole joke. The scene plays on our biased perceptions of the effects of illegal drugs. The writers were fully aware of the inaccuracy; Jon Vitti's a smart guy. Besides, Doctor Hibbert should be competent, and he wouldn't prescribe medicine that made Homer imagine he was flying while driving a car. That's why the absurdity of Homer's hallucinations was funny, and probably the most satirical aspect of the episode.

The scene at Moe's where Carl mentions suffering alcohol poisoning is funny, because it's treated so lightly compared to Homer's much less serious problem with illegal drugs.

Also hilarious was Lisa's confusion about whether she preferred the normal Homer or Homer stoned.

Those are really all the highlights. Some of the simple jokes about Homer being stoned ("My fingers are finging", "Hey, there's a kitchen") were rather amusing. I found the episode pretty funny for what it was worth, but I'm just disappointed with the wasted potential.

Voodoo Monkey
04-08-2002, 03:01 PM
I loved this episode! i can't list everything I loved, but here's a sampling:

-Flanders Wiggum impression
-The 'crow bar'
-the various crow names
-the crows doing his bidding
-Hans Moleman

Mayor Quimby
04-08-2002, 03:39 PM
I am new here but I figured I would state my opion anyway. The only way this episode got a 3 was because it had Hans Moleman in it. Hans is the best bit player ever. Without the Moleman this episode sucks.

defrocked
04-08-2002, 03:52 PM
Originally posted by Mayor Quimby
I am new here but I figured I would state my opion anyway. The only way this episode got a 3 was because it had Hans Moleman in it. Hans is the best bit player ever. Without the Moleman this episode sucks.
:rolleyes That's how you rate an episode. I repeat,:rolleyes

Cole
04-08-2002, 03:58 PM
Originally posted by blueduck37
Homer the pothead.... I never thought I'd see the day. :uhh:

I didn't think it was too far-stretched -- considering Homer's extreme alchohol consumption

Originally posted by The Jolly Bengali

The scene at Moe's where Carl mentions suffering alcohol poisoning is funny, because it's treated so lightly compared to Homer's much less serious problem with illegal drugs.


Yes, I loved how they were drinking while planning Homer's intervention -- the irony!

BurningLeprechaun
04-08-2002, 05:03 PM
I didn't know it was possible for an episode to both suck and blow at the same time...


OH yeah, how come everyone hates lame sex jokes but loves lame pot jokes?

Cole
04-08-2002, 05:24 PM
Originally posted by BurningLeprechaun
I didn't know it was possible for an episode to both suck and blow at the same time...

I'm sorry you feel that way. :rolleyes

Originally posted by BurningLeprechaun

OH yeah, how come everyone hates lame sex jokes but loves lame pot jokes?

What "lame pot jokes" are you refering to? Most of them were pretty funny -- atleast much better than Homer jumping in a suicide chair that provides him with sexual relief as seen in "Jaws Wired Shut." I felt lines like "Why do they call them fingers? I never see them fing. Oh, there they go" and "Hey, there's a kitchen." were much funnier.

Originally posted by Wiggle Puppy
Good thing Phish was only in it for 30 seconds.

I felt that they did a good job. You got to admit the joke about Phish being upset about smelling marijuana in the crowd was pretty funny. If you have ever been to a Phish concert, then you know what I am talking about. You can smell it from a block away. :LOL: And the joke about "Here's a guy who is a real 'poth-ead.' Oh, I'm sorry -- that's "pot-head."

BurningLeprechaun
04-08-2002, 05:38 PM
Originally posted by Wiggle Puppy
Good thing Phish was only in it for 30 seconds.

Hey Cloud-cole, pay attention to who you quote...i didn't say a darn thing about phish....I don't know why you have it on your post that I said that....
next time i'll sue for misquotation...

Smilin'JoeFission
04-08-2002, 05:41 PM
Originally posted by The Jolly Bengali
Before appearing as completely ungrateful, I'll note that there were quite a few jokes from last night's episode that I really liked.

Once Homer starts smoking the medicinal marijuana, he imeediately goes on an acid trip; his shaving razor talks to him, and he sees rainbows everywhere. People noted that this is not what would happen if Homer was smoking marijuana. That's the whole joke. The scene plays on our biased perceptions of the effects of illegal drugs. The writers were fully aware of the inaccuracy; Jon Vitti's a smart guy. Besides, Doctor Hibbert should be competent, and he wouldn't prescribe medicine that made Homer imagine he was flying while driving a car. That's why the absurdity of Homer's hallucinations was funny, and probably the most satirical aspect of the episode.

The scene at Moe's where Carl mentions suffering alcohol poisoning is funny, because it's treated so lightly compared to Homer's much less serious problem with illegal drugs.

Also hilarious was Lisa's confusion about whether she preferred the normal Homer or Homer stoned.

Those are really all the highlights. Some of the simple jokes about Homer being stoned ("My fingers are finging", "Hey, there's a kitchen") were rather amusing. I found the episode pretty funny for what it was worth, but I'm just disappointed with the wasted potential.

Exactly, all the hallucinations were great, but still absurd. Sometimes we have to remind ourselves the Simpsons is a cartoon. Thanks for pointing out Lisa's confusion too. She seems to get all worked up, she loses her concentration and forgets what she's fighting. Finally, they give her a character flaw!

Cole
04-08-2002, 06:20 PM
Originally posted by BurningLeprechaun


Hey Cloud-cole, pay attention to who you quote...i didn't say a darn thing about phish....I don't know why you have it on your post that I said that....
next time i'll sue for misquotation...

My mistake. I am truly sorry. The quotation was by Wiggle Puppy. I was just in a hurry and put down your name. There, just fixed it. Please don't sue. ;)

TomSledgehammer
04-08-2002, 06:33 PM
Originally posted by defrocked

:rolleyes That's how you rate an episode. I repeat,:rolleyes

Jeez....its his first post....be welcoming....

BudSm0k4h
04-08-2002, 06:39 PM
Originally posted by The Jolly Bengali
Once Homer starts smoking the medicinal marijuana, he imeediately goes on an acid trip; his shaving razor talks to him, and he sees rainbows everywhere. People noted that this is not what would happen if Homer was smoking marijuana. That's the whole joke.

Actually weed is a known hallucinagin, i've tripped on pot many a time. :smoking:

defrocked
04-08-2002, 06:59 PM
Originally posted by TomSledgehammer


Jeez....its his first post....be welcoming....

He marks it down heavily for not having Hans Moleman!! That's ridiculous!!

Master11119
04-08-2002, 07:18 PM
What is this crap?1/5 :violent:

Cole
04-08-2002, 07:22 PM
Originally posted by defrocked


He marks it down heavily for not having Hans Moleman!! That's ridiculous!!

But it did have Hans Moleman. He had the prescription at the Phish concert.

Originally posted by Master11119
What is this crap?1/5 :violent:

I know you are new here and everything, but the least you can do is explain why you felt this episode was such "crap" that it deserved a 1/5.

Jake
04-08-2002, 08:10 PM
Originally posted by Phoney McRing Ring
Blinky and Mike dude, i totally agree with you man...

these idiots post week after week, i had to respond because of what you said...they continue to bash every freakin episode that comes out(dont give me your past posts saying you put 5/5) and then their come back to that is...no, because we used to always get quality episodes back in season whatever...

Wow! Nothing like resatating the obvious to try and garner credibility for your 'arguement'. Next thing you'll be telling me is Homer Simpson is a cartoon character, or that "Springfield" doesn't exist! You might want to remind me the characters yellow while you're at it...

I love when i read a post of some one that says, "the ONLY funny parts were..." and they were the most pointless jokes in the episode, compared too other stuff..if you thought the only funny part was Homer throwing lisa money to play the sax...you got serious problems.

Of course, a person of your intellectual capacity is well-aware (I hope) that comedy is purely subjective. But then again, you're probably the target market of the Lindsy Nagells over at Fox Research.

THen you have the people that cant take a random joke as funny...when the ghostbusters theme played, it was meant to be a strange funny joke and some retard was like, "they just ran out of time and had to fill the last minute" BS! You either didn't laugh at that joke because A. you hate ghostbusters or B. you are Jake, waiting for the second coming of the "great years"

You're asking me to lie. I realize that it is a popular perception that the "Simpsons Forever!!!!" people that I must somehow 'laugh' at any act that could be described as attempted comedy.

And secondly, Jake...Dissing Family Guy and then saying you do have a sense of humor, wake up man! Family Guy is one of the most creative shows on television, too bad FOX puts more effort into that 80s show.

I could give damn about either show.

you should, and i am, be so glad Simpsons after 13 freakin seasons is still on tv.

Why should I be? I'm not a lap dog who begs for scraps and eats what's thrown before me and I don't feel I need to be punished and told to 'be quiet' when I think something is amiss.

What is wrong with you people...some are saying, end the show now, i turned it off mid episode.

So what? If it's on, it's on, if it's cancelled, it's cancelled. If they ended after Season nine, I would've been over it a long time ago. But, fine-- Play by your rules. Don't demand I laugh at something I don't find funny becasue of your (insert demeaning adjective here) sense of entitlement.

Ever notice when Comic Book guy made fun of people like you, saying something along the lines in a itchy convention of, "excuse me, in episode 2324whatever, itchy played scratchy's rib cage and the 3rd note he played was an A, but it should have been a D"..i think thats Matt G's way of saying, lighten up, its just a freak TV SHOW!!

News Flash! Your description is the stereotype that the show made fun of, not the people who made the comments themselves! If you knew that the show was a SATIRE, not Bobby's World, you'd know better and if you wanted to get my attention, you should've used Bart's line on dissing online opinions: "Hey, we want opinions that matter!". Or, you could've compared me to Homer when he wrote bad opinions as food critic just to fit in with his peers.

Jake

Tomacco
04-08-2002, 08:10 PM
You know the drill.

http://www.thespringfieldshopper.com/!WEEKENDATBURNS.gif

Whatdya think this week?

This Little Wiggy
04-08-2002, 08:23 PM
[QUOTE]I agree with simplor, a bart wants what it wants is just the best :marge: :marge: :marge: :LOL: ;)

Duffman OH YEAH
04-08-2002, 08:56 PM
Originally posted by Tomacco
You know the drill.

http://www.thespringfieldshopper.com/!WEEKENDATBURNS.gif

Whatdya think this week?


you gotta add the quote "woah, we have a kitchen now??"

Jake
04-08-2002, 09:14 PM
Those pages look good, as usual, but my 26.4K connection is killing the romance.

Cole
04-08-2002, 09:26 PM
Great job. I really like the framegrabs that you selected. And the list of names on the petition was helpful. I tried to pause the tape to read but I could only make out Helen Lovejoy's name (and ofcourse Homer's since it took up two lines :LOL: )

thecapecoddah
04-08-2002, 10:00 PM
More critiques: http://nohomers.net/interactive/reviews/DABF11.shtml

rock3880
04-09-2002, 01:16 AM
Originally posted by Jake


Wow! Nothing like resatating the obvious to try and garner credibility for your 'arguement'. Next thing you'll be telling me is Homer Simpson is a cartoon character, or that "Springfield" doesn't exist! You might want to remind me the characters yellow while you're at it...



Of course, a person of your intellectual capacity is well-aware (I hope) that comedy is purely subjective. But then again, you're probably the target market of the Lindsy Nagells over at Fox Research.



You're asking me to lie. I realize that it is a popular perception that the "Simpsons Forever!!!!" people that I must somehow 'laugh' at any act that could be described as attempted comedy.



I could give damn about either show.



Why should I be? I'm not a lap dog who begs for scraps and eats what's thrown before me and I don't feel I need to be punished and told to 'be quiet' when I think something is amiss.



So what? If it's on, it's on, if it's cancelled, it's cancelled. If they ended after Season nine, I would've been over it a long time ago. But, fine-- Play by your rules. Don't demand I laugh at something I don't find funny becasue of your (insert demeaning adjective here) sense of entitlement.



News Flash! Your description is the stereotype that the show made fun of, not the people who made the comments themselves! If you knew that the show was a SATIRE, not Bobby's World, you'd know better and if you wanted to get my attention, you should've used Bart's line on dissing online opinions: "Hey, we want opinions that matter!". Or, you could've compared me to Homer when he wrote bad opinions as food critic just to fit in with his peers.

Jake [/B]



wow, right on jake. we can't look at TV and just accept it as "entertainment." we shouldn't just accept anything; we should ALWAYS crave for BETTER, no matter how good it is. in only that way maybe, maybe we can evolve.

tim_duncan2000
04-09-2002, 07:30 AM
I only gave it a 3/5, because I thought it was a mediocre episode. I didn't care for the crows, and I didn't like Mr. Burns' "death" or the slapping ending. I did like the parts with Homer and Otto, but I really was hoping the writers would examine common viewpoints about legalization from both sides, but they didn't do a whole lot of that. I agree with the person that said that by having the issue already voted on, they were able to dodge any debate on the issue. So, in other words, the middle of the episode was pretty good (except for Homer's promotion, which didn't seem like something Burns' would do for anyone for any reason), but the crows beginning and the dead Burn's/slapping ending was kind of weak and did not work for me.

tim_duncan2000
04-09-2002, 07:51 AM
You're asking me to lie. I realize that it is a popular perception that the "Simpsons Forever!!!!" people that I must somehow 'laugh' at any act that could be described as attempted comedy.

I hate it when people get mad when I don't think certain jokes are funny. Just because it's the Simpsons, I'm not going to automatically think it's funny. I don't know why I should have to laugh at something if I don't think it's funny.

I could give damn about either show.

I have watched the Family Guy a few times, and I didn't think it was very funny at all. If people think it has good jokes, good writing, and that it's creative, fine. But I don't think it means someone has no sense of humor if they don't like it.

Why should I be? I'm not a lap dog who begs for scraps and eats what's thrown before me and I don't feel I need to be punished and told to 'be quiet' when I think something is amiss.

Yeah, I don't see why I should just like any crappy thing that they put in certain episodes. If it's not as good or not funny, I think you should be able to say so. I don't like it when people make it seem like we should just accept it and say it's good just because it's the Simpsons. I don't try to watch it and be critical, I just watch it. There are certain things that will be funny, and there are things that just won't be funny. I don't think it means I have no sense of humor if I don't think all the wacky stuff is great comedy.

So what? If it's on, it's on, if it's cancelled, it's cancelled. If they ended after Season nine, I would've been over it a long time ago. But, fine-- Play by your rules. Don't demand I laugh at something I don't find funny becasue of your (insert demeaning adjective here) sense of entitlement.
Jake

Right on. Why should anyone have to laugh at something that's not funny? I don't think it means they are a bad fan or just being critical. The show, and the jokes, for the most part, have changed a great deal, and everyone can admit that. If people don't think the wacky stuff and bad characterizations are funny, so what? What's so bad about wanting the writing to be more like it was from seasons 2-8? Just about everyone thinks it was funnier then. I don't see what's wrong with not laughing about certain things that aren't funny to a person. Who cares if someone doesn't think certain things are funny? It shouldn't be such a big deal, especially since everyone has things they don't find funny, and we all like different things.

BangBangBart
04-09-2002, 09:26 AM
3/5

I lost it when smithers got mr burns out of the bath and he slipped out of his arms and into the wall. The crows were odd, but funny and unexpected and i loved it when marge shooed the flanders family away from her scarecrow "cross"

What people on pot see those acid-like hallucinations? Maybe hibbert had it laced with something else..

Clin-ton's speech was funny.. i love the way they make fun of that ass on the simpsons :D

Cosmo Kramer
04-09-2002, 01:18 PM
Originally posted by This Little Wiggy
[QUOTE]I agree with simplor, a bart wants what it wants is just the best :marge: :marge: :marge: :LOL: ;)

Yes so far it is the best of the season konan.

This Little Wiggy
04-09-2002, 01:21 PM
crap it aint out in new zealand!!!!

Cosmo Kramer
04-09-2002, 01:32 PM
Konan i know weekend at burnsies aint out here in new zealand however ive downloaded it so you can come round and watch it.

second best episode of season 13 so far(behind the bart wants what it wants).

Cosmo Kramer
04-09-2002, 01:45 PM
Originally posted by Tomacco
You know the drill.

http://www.thespringfieldshopper.com/!WEEKENDATBURNS.gif

Whatdya think this week?


Great stuff!!!

Cosmo Kramer
04-09-2002, 01:46 PM
JON VITTI IS BACK!!!!!!

YEAH!!!!!

The greatest writer is back.

Hopefully he wont turn into John swartzwelder.

Vitti has done many classic episodes!

Cosmo Kramer
04-09-2002, 02:10 PM
Originally posted by Mayor Quimby
I am new here but I figured I would state my opion anyway. The only way this episode got a 3 was because it had Hans Moleman in it. Hans is the best bit player ever. Without the Moleman this episode sucks.
Ok then.....

This Little Wiggy
04-09-2002, 02:20 PM
GO BANANA!!!

Cole
04-09-2002, 03:47 PM
Originally posted by This Little Wiggy
GO BANANA!!!

:rolleyes Right. . .

Voodoo Monkey
04-09-2002, 05:20 PM
Isn't there a poster here named Go Banana?

StrideR
04-09-2002, 06:32 PM
What's with the band worshipping these days anyway? I'm sure Phish is a great (or at least pretty good) band, but must everyone in Springfield adore them? Or the turn out of the whole town to see The Who in performance. Hans Moleman's "My doctors never told me that...I had to hear it from Phish" comment made my stomach sink further while watching an agonizingly loose episode. What happened to the days of Spinal Tap and Mr. Burns' "Kill the Rolling Stones" moments? Wasn't the idea to have adults who were clueless about cool music and bands that came up after the seventies (or in Monty's case, the 30s)? I think it's okay if the children idolize the guest stars, but it looks commercial if the adults overshadow them.

Homerpalooza pointed out how Homer (and possibly everyone in his age range) had lost touch with what was hip/cool

Exception
-The whole town shows up at OFF's doorstep when they hear Michael Jackson's coming (He's been around since the sixties, and besides, even today, it is a realistic possibility the response will be the same in any city or suburb, despite MJ's fall from aesthetic sanity and sensibility).

-Oh...and I thought the episode sucked, except for a few moments, for example, Homer's eviction (again) of Otto. His visions weren't too bad either.

Cole
04-09-2002, 06:54 PM
Originally posted by stride_83
What's with the band worshipping these days anyway? I'm sure Phish is a great (or at least pretty good) band, but must everyone in Springfield adore them? Or the turn out of the whole town to see The Who in performance. Hans Moleman's "My doctors never told me that...I had to hear it from Phish" comment made my stomach sink further while watching an agonizingly loose episode.

I know, I love Phish, but I don't see Hans Moleman as a big Phish fan. I can see people like Otto adoring them -- even Snake and Disco Stu -- but not people like Hans.

Handsome Pete
04-09-2002, 07:56 PM
Okay, I can think a lot clearer now since I've been home for a couple of days, so I'll talk more about Sunday's episode. Like what most people thought, I didn't really like the third act. It just felt a little forced to me. I didn't like Barney's bloody button, either. Of course, Barney isn't dead or anything (since he's a somewhat major character), but it still is something that just isn't very Simpsons-like to me. Homer's shaving and driving to work hallucinations were funny, and the first act wasn't as bad as I had first thought. It's just that the crows seems a little too human-like in some places.

StrideR
04-09-2002, 08:50 PM
The plot wasn't exactly funny. The only thing edgy about it was the Marijuana. The Flanders praying in front of the makeshift cross wasn't exactly great either. Homer's idea that controversial medicine meant it went "in the butt" wasn't particulary eyebrow worthy. What happened? It seems that all of Al Jean's attempts so far have left me unsatisfied humorwise. I'm informed that this was a Jon Vitti script. I would like to see it before I will actually believe he came up with this. So far, Mr. Jean has brought back Vitti, Silverman, and a few others, and I can't seem to figure out what's wrong...

mrteeny
04-10-2002, 12:52 AM
It wasn't too bad. I don't care for sex/drugs in The Simpsons, but it was pretty good regardless. I just wish we could get back to wholesome, tasteful episodes.

DotheBartman
04-10-2002, 01:00 AM
Originally posted by BangBangBart


Clin-ton's speech was funny.. i love the way they make fun of that ass on the simpsons :D

To be honest I haven't enjoyed the Clinton gags that much, they seem rather forced and not very witty considering what you could do with a Clinton joke (though the "definition of was" thing was pretty funny). The only truly great Clinton gags came from THOH VII, in the classic "Citizen Kang" segment. Also, the jab in The Parent Rap was a good random gag, even if it wasn't really satirical.

Wavy Gravy
04-10-2002, 05:36 AM
Nice job on the guide, Tomacco. I think this is the second time Homer's appeared in an episode bio that wasn't his own. (The first was God's bio for 9F01 "Homer the Heretic".)

Hey, what happened to a bunch of the pages on this discussion? I thought there were 7, and now there's 5.

Paranoid Android
04-10-2002, 09:06 AM
that's because's it's 35 posts per page instead of 24 like it used to be.

StrideR
04-10-2002, 10:52 AM
Jon Vitti, how thou art fallen.

bartfan
04-10-2002, 11:04 AM
4/5

Cosmo Kramer
04-10-2002, 01:00 PM
Originally posted by stride_83
Jon Vitti, how thou art fallen.

Yeah well.... :(

We can just look at cape feare,Lisas substitute,Mr plow(and many more) and smile. :D

shortiecuz
04-10-2002, 02:06 PM
i gave it a 2/5. it was pretty decent (3-4/5) till the end when mr.burns died. a bit confusing seeing him come back to to life.a bit eerie.

|RABiD|
04-10-2002, 02:38 PM
Jon Vitti's next episode will be really good!!! Well...it sounds good (Little Girl In The Big Ten)

Wang
04-10-2002, 02:44 PM
5/5. Ima sucker for un-serious shitty ending low brow episodes.

Bluesman
04-10-2002, 06:04 PM
ahhh, weed just doesn't fit wit