w (dub-ya)

[billi vanilli]

oliver stone is about to begin production on his biopic on george bush. there's a small chance it'll be in theatres by october. james brolin is playing bush, elizabeth banks laura. no one cast as cheney yet.

http://img2.timeinc.net/ew/dynamic/imgs/080507/cover-story/josh-brolin_l.jpg

if yer interested, here's an article about it EW did. (http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20198476,00.html?iid=top25-20080509-First+Look%3A+Oliver+Stone%27s+Bush+biopic)

i don't think there's been a thread on this... discuss!

[bmac]

i can honestly say i have absolutely zero interest in seeing this

[Burnin']

im sure this will be unbiased...

[America: Fuck Yea!]

While I agree, there really is no way to portray him as a "decent" man, though.

Keep in mind that Stone was mostly fair to Nixon.

[brody]

http://www.lisarein.com/9-9-03-daily-corddry.jpg

as

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/be/Fleischer.jpg

[Dead Nigga Storage]

i'll probably see it. knowing stone, it'll have the potential to be absolutely amazing, or utterly horrible.

[nathaniel]

yeah nixon was great. a lot of potential here

[brancely]

*josh brolin

i'll probably see it even it's an alexander-level train wreck

[Eddie]

i think they said paul giamatti might play cheney.

i would approve of this casting decision.

[morbot]

I hope its a farce style comedy.

Really though couldn't he have waited a bit before doing this? I am literally so fucking sick of George W that I avoid looking at or listening to him in any way shape or form. And while I might someday find a story about how he fucked up America interesting... right now I think it'd just make me want to vomit shit all over the theater.

[aoife]

i think they said paul giamatti might play cheney.

i would approve of this casting decision.
He'd better be seriously creepy, then.

[anthony]

you seen shoot 'em up? he can do creepy pretty well

[Dead Nigga Storage]

giamatti was fucking amazing in shoot'em up.

[brentholomew]

i haven't liked any of the more recent oliver stone movies but i'm really hoping this will be good

[kevin]

damn. this looks pretty cool

[Magnum]

the movie will fail

fox and the weather channel run in my house 24/7, so I'll have to listen to O'Reilly gloat for a week over how no one will watch a film that's critical of the country

[brentholomew]

i think it can have a successful box office run.

[brody]

let's at least wait for a trailer

[caribou]

james cromwell as hw, my friend tells me. nice

[Magnum]

if darryl hammond plays cheney, rumsfeld, mccain, clinton, gore and everyone on fox, cnn and msnbc, I'll be sure to see it

[Chuckles Manson]

Danny Devito as Dick Cheney
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1411/1467485834_4710c58c20_o.jpg
http://members.aol.com/lupinaccim/cheney-penguin.jpg

[God]

eddie murphy/martin lawrence for condi

[raheem]

she's not fat/black enough to have a prominent black male comedian in a fat suit play her

[Jamie]

slate (http://www.slate.com/id/2188423/) has more script excerpts, this sounds hilarious

[simpsonsfan20]

I'm expecting the movie to earn a plentiful...








...$12.45.
The movie is definentaly going to bomb.

[Dead Nigga Storage]

it'll be interesting to see what becomes of any potential libel suits, too...since you could definitely prove malicious intent to harm if anything in that script is actually going to be in the movie.

[Jamie]

given the continued existence of "lil' bush," I don't think the bushes are concerned about libel

[Ryan]

I'm expecting the movie to earn a plentiful...
...$12.45.
The movie is definentaly going to bomb.

finger on the pulse

[Chuckles Manson]

it'll be interesting to see what becomes of any potential libel suits, too...since you could definitely prove malicious intent to harm if anything in that script is actually going to be in the movie.

The rules are different when it comes to political officials.

Stone has my $8.00...well, I'll probably rent it, at least.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vto8hoyYz4U

[America: Fuck Yea!]

slate (http://www.slate.com/id/2188423/) has more script excerpts, this sounds hilarious

apparently, stone has rewritten the script twice since this was leaked.

and to those that think it is going to fail, that is almost laughable. while i don't expect it to be nominated for any awards, it will at least recoup the money that it took to make it.

[Dead Nigga Storage]

The rules are different when it comes to political officials.no shit, sherlock. which is exactly why i, in my post, specifically mentioned the possible fulfillment of the criteria necessary for a public official (malicious intent to harm a reputation) to prove libel.

[America: Fuck Yea!]

teaser poster up.. FUCK YEAH!

http://www.slashfilm.com/wp/wp-content/images/wteaserposter.jpg

[Jamie]

finally, I can enjoy a george w. bushisms desk calendar in poster form

[Clark Westfall]

That poster is fantastic, I forgot how wise and deep our president is.

[Milhouse Van Houten]

very excited about this flick, i really like oliver stone.

[nathaniel]

finally, I can enjoy a george w. bushisms desk calendar in poster form

oh believe me theres been a poster for years now

it hangs in the bathroom of the biggest stoner i know

[Eddie]

i'm pretty sure i read somewhere that that poster might not be official...

[lolpenis_taco]

aEyJ2kdaaTQ

[Paul Butts]

colin powell was way too dark, but other than that this movie looks great.

[kevin]

from what i got out of the trailer, this will either be amazing or amazingly bad. either way it's probably going to be worth seeing

[Clark Westfall]

It looks amazingly bad. I might see it just to find out if the movie is really going to be as bad as I think.

[Burnin']

wow, looks like shit.

[America: Fuck Yea!]

it really looks terrible and it could be so great.

What I don't understand is what is Stone's hurry. He came up with this around New Years and wants it out before the November election, why? Bush isn't and can't run for a third term, so what's the point? Even in this trailer, you can tell the actors don't feel comfortable in their roles and don't have any resemblance to whom they are playing. This all seems so rushed.

I picture that scene in Ed Wood where Wood is directing and the lead walks into the wall near the door shaking the entire set leaving a need for an obvious retake. Wood (Depp) refuses saying it's fine and in the interest of time they need to move on to the next scene. This seems like how Stone is making this film. And it is a shame since he made two wonderful films regarding American political figures (JFK, Nixon).

[Reservoir Dog]

I think the actors look fine. I guess the thing I was most afraid of when it came to this movie were them becoming caricatures or parodies of the real political figures, but they seem to be playing it straightforward and without John Steward quality impressions. And I dont think it is necissary to look exactly like the people they are playing, but get talent that can handle the material in a serious manner because really, when people are going to see this they are expecting a joke and this hard documentary style realistic view of Bush's life is going to kick them in the face.

[Jakebert]

In the defense of the cast, casting a serious actor to play a person who has almost always played as a comedic buffoon can't be easy. If they had cast someone too close to Bush in speak and look, it could have felt like a cheap caricature.

I don't know if anyone saw "Recount" on HBO, but when they cast Bush, they used the guy that does the Bush impressions on Leno/VH1, and because it was such a caricature, it killed quite a few scenes that could have been really dramatic.

That said, this is still way too soon and seems kind of cheap and stupid.

[Burnin']

this hard documentary style realistic view of Bush's life is going to kick them in the face.

i needed a good laugh

[conor.]

This looks alright, I'm not a stone fan at all, but I'm sure I'll end up seeing it.

I agree completely with lawnbrah it does seem so rushed, but I have the feeling stone is just that kind of director who wants to do things as soon as he can.

[Andy]

In the defense of the cast, casting a serious actor to play a person who has almost always played as a comedic buffoon can't be easy. If they had cast someone too close to Bush in speak and look, it could have felt like a cheap caricature.

I don't know if anyone saw "Recount" on HBO, but when they cast Bush, they used the guy that does the Bush impressions on Leno/VH1, and because it was such a caricature, it killed quite a few scenes that could have been really dramatic.

That said, this is still way too soon and seems kind of cheap and stupid.
don't forget the 9/11 tv-movie that cast timothy bottoms from that's my bush! in their Serious Bush role

anyone know how that went?

[America: Fuck Yea!]

don't forget the 9/11 tv-movie that cast timothy bottoms from that's my bush! in their Serious Bush role

anyone know how that went?

jesus.. I didn't even hear about that.

[Jakebert]

He was gonna punch Bin Laden...right in the faaace.

I can't believe I just admitted to watching That's My Bush.

[BigButtSkinner]

I hope it's as good as the Itchy & Scratchy episode he guest-directed.

[mr. broom]

don't forget the 9/11 tv-movie that cast timothy bottoms from that's my bush! in their Serious Bush role

anyone know how that went?
I watched about five minutes of it. Hilariously bad. Guy they got to play Blair bore no resemblance whatsoever.

[James L. Brookes]

I wonder how the people excited for this film, and the people dreading this film would think about a Clinton film.

[America: Fuck Yea!]

I wonder how the people excited for this film, and the people dreading this film would think about a Clinton film.

this isn't a partisan issue. don't make it one.

[James L. Brookes]

this isn't a partisan issue. don't make it one.

One of the most political movies ever made about a hated Republican president, made by a flaming Democrat film maker is not a partisan issue how? I am really not trying to take a side here, i mean i wanna see it. But i am not about to lie and say it has nothing to do with political parties. The fact that they plan on airing ads for the film after McCane ads is prof enough.

[Wonderboy]

I think he was referring to the discussion.

[James L. Brookes]

gottcha' but all i was saying was a wonder what would happen if the tides had turned.

[ThatAsianGuy]

i think they'll release the film before the election in october, just to rile people up and piss 'em off and i'm sure both nominees will criticize the film as tasteless or in bad taste and i'm sure the film probably will be.

[America: Fuck Yea!]

http://www.aintitcool.com/images2007/WposterSm.jpg

[sconer]

Definitely looks interesting. I might see it, although it depends on whats out at the time, and if I have any money or not. ;)

[Clark Westfall]

I am having the hardest time taking this seriously. Everything about it seems like a train wreck.

[America: Fuck Yea!]

I don't know if you are supposed to take it seriously. Much like this Administration, this movie will be an unintentional comedy; however, unlike this movie, millions paid for this Administration with their lives which kind of isn't funny.

[America: Fuck Yea!]

http://hollywood-elsewhere.com/images/column/9308/bushduo.jpg

a life misunderestimated...

[ThatAsianGuy]

The second poster of him putting his feet up doesn't seem to fit too well and doesn't really look like Bush at all.

[Snack Related Mishap]

oliver stone is about to begin production on his biopic on george bush. there's a small chance it'll be in theatres by october. james brolin is playing bush...

Since when did it change to Josh Brolin?

I thought it looked more like him, but because of Billy's post, I kept thinking it was his father playing the part.

[kevin]

it's always been josh brolin. who knows why he wrote james brolin. is that even a real person?

[conor.]

Despite the teaser for this film I really like the first poster with him on the desk.

[The Sovereign]

Black Bush>>>

[brody]

it's always been josh brolin. who knows why he wrote james brolin. is that even a real person?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Brolin

[Dead Nigga Storage]

hahaha. james brolin was supposed to play ronald reagan in that biopic that CBS chickened out and was afraid to show on t.v.

i guess playing godawful presidents is in that family's blood.

[brody]

just thought about it: besides anthony hopkins as nixon, i'm really struggling to think of any famous actor having a prominent role as a president in a feature film. more often than not we'll just see a miniseries (john adams; kennedy).

[America: Fuck Yea!]

the first pic is to emphasis Bush's stupidity; the second his arrogance.

Arrogance is terrible, but it is magnified if the subject is just plain stupid.

[Dead Nigga Storage]

just thought about it: besides anthony hopkins as nixon, i'm really struggling to think of any famous actor having a prominent role as a president in a feature film. more often than not we'll just see a miniseries (john adams; kennedy).bruce greenwood in thirteen days.

[brody]

oh yes

another addition in the 'film about jfk starring kevin costner' canon

[Tim Burton]

I hate this idea...totally going to suck. I hate Ollie Stone's pictures! All one sided. All very one sided. Sure he said he would base it on the truth, but thats his opinions of the truth!

[America: Fuck Yea!]

yeah.. I hate how 'facts' are always liberal too.

[Snack Related Mishap]

just thought about it: besides anthony hopkins as nixon, i'm really struggling to think of any famous actor having a prominent role as a president in a feature film. more often than not we'll just see a miniseries (john adams; kennedy).

Off the top of my head, Gary Sinise played Truman in a 90's biopic about him(I haven't seen it, though). Also, I remember reading about a biopic focusing on the life of Woodrow Wilson that won a bunch of academy awards, but was also a box office disaster.

edit: Nevermind, turns out the Truman movie was something produced for HBO that never went to theaters.

[Burnin']

just thought about it: besides anthony hopkins as nixon, i'm really struggling to think of any famous actor having a prominent role as a president in a feature film. more often than not we'll just see a miniseries (john adams; kennedy).

harrison ford as President james marshall,

game.

[kevin]

i think he meant actual presidents, not fake ones

[Burnin']

i know, it was an attempt at that thing, humor

[vox]

didn't jim carrey star in a biopic about truman

[kevin]

yeah but phillip seymour hoffman won an oscar for playing truman

[Clark Westfall]

nicholson was a better truman

[Snack Related Mishap]

yeah but phillip seymour hoffman won an oscar for playing truman

what a flamboyant president.

[America: Fuck Yea!]

how was this:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0353042/

[America: Fuck Yea!]

http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2008/10/wmovie200810

[Jakebert]

Rob Corddry as Ari Fleischer could work pretty well.

[billi vanilli]

i saw a trailer for this last night before burn after reading.. looking pretty good.

[America: Fuck Yea!]

'W.' watchers say Brolin's Bush is uncanny
By: Jeffrey Ressner
September 23, 2008 08:52 PM EST

If there is anyone in Hollywood who is inundated with politics these days, it is Oliver Stone, who will finish editing his George W. Bush biopic any minute now and is looking forward to a huge publicity push before it opens on Oct. 17. “W.,” starring Josh Brolin as the 43rd president, is shaping up as a hit — if not a blockbuster, at least a moneymaker poised to score multiple award nominations.

People who have seen the film, and there are not many at this point, have said the most astonishing part of the movie isn’t the storyline, which doesn’t contain any shocking new information. And it’s not the liberties the film takes with reality — like any biopic, it includes invented dialogue, and several lengthy real-life events have been telescoped into a few minutes of screen time. Instead, “W.” watchers say that Brolin has positively nailed Dubya, channeling his very soul in the same way Jamie Foxx inhabited Ray Charles’ skin in “Ray,” Joaquin Phoenix captured Johnny Cash in “Walk the Line” and Jim Carrey became Andy Kaufman’s reincarnation in “Man on the Moon.”

Brolin is said to be so impressive that there has been discussion of using his performance to market the entire picture. “He gives off such an amazing vibe that Lionsgate should promote the movie as a great dramatic piece, instead of hyping it as another Oliver Stone controversy, because that’s going to happen anyway,” said a source close to filmmakers. While viewers have an awareness of Stone that no other director enjoys, the campaign will be very “Josh-centric,” confirmed a studio insider who requested anonymity.

As a result, expect Lionsgate to move hard for a best actor nomination come Oscar season in order to move more DVDs, with release of the home video version of the film expected to conincide with Academy Awards hoopla early next year.

Brolin wasn’t Stone’s first choice to play the titular role. According to an interview this week in GQ, Stone felt he needed a big “star” and originally went to Christian Bale, who plays the caped crusader in “Batman Begins” and “The Dark Knight” and enjoys a strong international following. But after thousands of dollars were spent on screen tests using expensive prosthetic makeup, Bale bailed because he didn’t feel he could pull off the part.

Stone said he then chose Brolin, who was “not a star” but felt “more rural Americana.” According to the director, Brolin was “scared sh-tless” at the thought of mocking the sitting president — probably because he remembered the grief that his father, James Brolin, went through after playing Ronald Reagan in a CBS TV movie that ultimately got bumped from the network. But the younger Brolin dove into his work, spending hours perfecting his Texas twang and listening to speeches, press conferences and other material to strike a proper tone.

In addition, Brolin swore off alcohol for all five months of pre-production and shooting, giving up booze in much the same way Dubya kicked the juice after years of active alcoholism. (Ironically, after the final day of shooting, Brolin, Stone and other cast members celebrated at a local bar in Shreveport, La., where the film was shot, and the actor was arrested in a subsequent brawl.)

Brolin may become the pivot of the film’s marketing schemes, but right now the indie studio releasing “W.” is relying on more traditional means to promote the film. There’s a junket for reporters, carefully orchestrated releases of teasers and trailers, and tie-ins with online sites such as YouTube, which is currently promoting a “make your own mash-up” contest in which amateur filmmakers can splice and dice the “W.” trailer any way they want. The filmmaker with the best re-imagining will be awarded an Apple laptop, editing software and a video camera.

Included in the “mash-up toolkit” is a number of video clips of the real Bush under categories such as “Temper Temper,” “Candid Moments,” “Best Friends” and “Presidential Blunders,” the last section having the most content. It includes 26 different clips of Bushisms and missteps, including one titled “Saddam Aids Al Qaeda” and another called “I Thought He Had Weapons.” Ironically, Lionsgate previously removed from YouTube fan-made mash-ups of the “W.” trailer, claiming they infringed on copyrights.

One thing to be grateful about: Unlike Stone’s previous presidential picture about Richard Nixon that ran an interminable 192 minutes (and 212 in the subsequent “director’s cut”), his take on Bush is way more concise. Advance word from the London Film Festival (where the picture will make its European debut) indicates it will clock in at a mere 110 minutes.

As for Brolin, he may very well earn a pair of Oscar nods for his work this year. Two months after the release of “W.,” he will be seen with Sean Penn in another major biopic about the late, openly gay San Francisco supervisor Harvey Milk. In “Milk,” directed by Gus Van Sant, Brolin has the supporting role of Twinkie-chomping assassin Dan White.

George W. and Dan White — two power W’s in one year is pretty sweet for any actor. What’s more, Brolin also made his directing debut earlier this year, helming a 15-minute short about a prison escapee. The title is — we kid you not — “X.”

[brentholomew]

say what you want about sensationalism, but i'm really looking foward to this. i haven't liked an oliver stone movie in a really long time but i'll probably be seeing it opening weekend

[America: Fuck Yea!]

he hasn't made a good film in over 10 years. Nixon was the last one I thought was good and that was 1995.

[poochied-d]

just thought about it: besides anthony hopkins as nixon, i'm really struggling to think of any famous actor having a prominent role as a president in a feature film. more often than not we'll just see a miniseries (john adams; kennedy).

Frank Langela in the upcoming Frost/Nixon, he won a tony for the play

[granto1990]

I would be reasonably interested in this but knowing Oliver Stone it will be too biased to enjoy too much.

Although I did like JFK and i would like to see Nixon

400th POST!

[The Sovereign]

is this movie a comedy? cause the trailer makes it look like that....

"Poppy Bush"???

[lardofthedance]

Saw the theatrical trailer and I think it looks pretty stupid. I don't predict a great box office with this one.

[America: Fuck Yea!]

JFK was certainly biased in the stretching of facts. However, from studying history, it wasn't necessarily biased in the sense that our government does terrible things around the world every day and that there is a sinister element to it. Nixon on the other hand was ultimately fair and downright sympathetic to the man. I don't see the reasons for the fear in this case about W. The man is at best a fucking incompetent idiot and at worst a murderous war criminal. Stone will portray him as he is. For Stone to be biased, he would have to have Bush fucking 9 year old children on the White House lawn.

[nathaniel]

haha, seriously

8 years of this unimaginably terrifying presidency you think people would drop the devils advocacy. does he need to personally punch you in the face for you to get it?

[mr. broom]

People think that fairness requires equal time for liking and hating someone, which is asinine.

[James L. Brookes]

Saw the theatrical trailer and I think it looks pretty stupid. I don't predict a great box office with this one.

unfortunately, i see it making a bunch of dough. especially with a running time of less than 2 hours, the fact that its PG 13, and how people dont exactly look up to Bush.

[brancely]

oh, and, um, that whole controversy thing

[America: Fuck Yea!]

unfortunately, i see it making a bunch of dough.

unfortunately?

[nathaniel]

dont worry hes not of voting age

[James L. Brookes]

unfortunately?
i happen to dislike Stone and all of his films except Platoon and the Born on The 4th of July.

[America: Fuck Yea!]

i happen to dislike Stone and all of his films except Platoon and the Born on The 4th of July.

why do you dislike Stone?

[James L. Brookes]

well not Stone personally, i never met the dude, just dont like his films and some of his views.

[America: Fuck Yea!]

well not Stone personally, i never met the dude

fair enough

just dont like his films and some of his views.

care to expound? A lot of his films are complete shit. Pretty much everything since Nixon IMO.

[James L. Brookes]

hated what he did to Natural Born Killers, the way QT explains his story i woulda liked it much better. Any Given Sunday was pretty meh. Nixon was among his worst. Alexander made me snooze.

[America: Fuck Yea!]

hated what he did to Natural Born Killers, the way QT explains his story i woulda liked it much better. Any Given Sunday was pretty meh. Nixon was among his worst. Alexander made me snooze.

I have recently revisited Nixon after initially disliking it and I think it is kind of underrated now. What were your problems with it?

Agree with the rest of the post, though I don't hate NBK.

[James L. Brookes]

my problems were, although he showed he can be nice to Republicans, Nixon didnt deserve it. it portrayed Nixon the way it should have but kinda tip toed around a lot of the puzzle, and yet with a bunch missing it was still incredibly long.

[America: Fuck Yea!]

my problems were, although he showed he can be nice to Republicans, Nixon didnt deserve it. it portrayed Nixon the way it should have but kinda tip toed around a lot of the puzzle, and yet with a bunch missing it was still incredibly long.

It's pretty sympathetic to Nixon, though. By coincidence, I thought of Stone's Nixon last night during the VP debate when Biden said he learned his first year in the Senate to never question someone's motives; question their judgment. I thought this is exactly what Stone did with Nixon. He portrayed that the man had a good heart and made terrible judgments. A product of his strict upbringing. Stone states in the commentary that he believes if Watergate hadn't happened, Nixon would have ended the Cold War at the end of his second term which would have not led to the Reagan Presidency, the needless arms race, and the wrecking of the economy. Stone also gives credit (and shows in his film) for opening China and the USSR ending the war in Vietnam, and founding such things as the EPA.

[James L. Brookes]

putting it that way i guess i can understand it being okay. maybe i'll give it another shot, its been a few years since ive seen it.

[Kiyosuki]

Yeah I thought Nixon was pretty ok too. I saw it around 2001-3ish(I can"t remeber exactly) and I liked how it was structured like a traditional tragedy in a lot of ways. I thought it did a decent job of showing the full gist of Nixon's character(as far as a film can go anyways) while not undermining the harsh reality of a lot of his mistakes.

W. looks eh, alright. I feel like it may be a bit too soon to be releasing this thing, it really does feel like it's being rushed a bit but supposedly his performance as George is great. Probably check it out eventually, but I'm a little W.'ed out myself too.

[America: Fuck Yea!]

Got press passes from the Village Voice to see it on Wed.

Stoked!

[conor.]

Just saw stone on maher, and man I still don't like the guy. That said I still can't wait to check the film out this weekend.

[America: Fuck Yea!]

Awesome. I thought there were great moments and but some issues that need to be brought up. I don't have time for a well thought out review, but I wanted to share some thoughts.

The Bad: This film did feel rushed. But I don't really know what I mean by that since the performances were all top notch (except for Rice). But, disregarding the under 2 hour running time, it didn't have the Stone feel found within Nixon or even JFK. But the main problem is, and I thought I would never say it, this film was the victim of "too soon". Which brings me to the good.

The Good: I think in 20 years, this will be regarded as a masterpiece. It was the perfect summation of the past 8 years. It was tragic. It was Greek. I actually felt sorry for Bush at some points, but b/c I am so close to these events, I am still far too angry for this film. The other problem is that every scene seemed self-aware and calculating. This wasn't really any different than streaming together 24 Youtube videos or watching Frontline. Now, I have read that the same can be said about Nixon, but since I wasn't around for that Administration, this was obviously less of a problem. That is why I think the film will age well. It was well made, even if it felt rushed.

One last things is the performances. My God.. Brolin was fantastic as was Dreyfuss. The only person who I didn't think nailed it was Rice. She was transparent and a caricature. The one thing that can be said about this film was that the performances were fantastic which is amazing considering that it felt rushed at times.

[:bang:]

i thought it was plodding and clumsy. the acting was pretty good, but meh

[America: Fuck Yea!]

what didn't work for you danno :bang:?

[:bang:]

the pacing was poor, condi was terrible and it just seemed like dub was a salesman for a bunch of cartoony gouls. the whole dad issue thing was kind of awkward too. im thinking it was too soon

[Rococo Fox]

It was okay. Wasn't as emotionally effective or epic as it could have been, but it did tell a decently interesting story and the acting was pretty good. I didn't think it seemed rushed; conversely, a lot of parts dragged and I was glad when it was over. It wasn't terrible in any regard, it just was nothing amazing at all. C+/B-

[Captain Yesterday]

I saw it. Thought it would be a little funnier though. The whole theater filled with mid aged liberals laughing at every stupid thing Bush said didn't make me want to join them much. I'm not too much on laughing at stupidity, so this movie wasn't really my style.

Alright movie 5.5/10

[Milhouse Van Houten]

acting was top notch, casting couldn't have been better, the only room i saw for biased stretching was in the portrayal of certain known events. like jiggles, i almost felt bad for him at times but couldn't bring myself to because i am still feeling the effects of his actions.

i thought that the round table discussions were both elegantly written and shot. the subtlety of cheney having his hand up w's ass was handled quite well. the only thing that felt out of place to me was the damn pretzel choking scene, it really felt like it was thrown in their for a quick chuckle.

all in all, i really enjoyed this flick and am quite excited to revisit it in a few years and see how it feels then. i'm also quite attracted to the actress that played laura.

[America: Fuck Yea!]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/28/richard-dreyfuss-slams-w_n_138548.html

[Milhouse Van Houten]

goddamn.

[Eddie]

i saw this last weekend, and yeah, i thought it was pretty good, too. some of the secondary characters did feel like caricatures, like barbara bush wearing the stereotypical blue dress and whatnot. too obvious. i also thought they'd have some scenes from 9/11 or the 00 election.

there were also like five points where i thought the film was going to end, but it just kept going. i wouldn't necessarily say that's a fault of the film, though. i think that's just because there are so many high dramatic points where you could end a story like this.

also, not sure if it's been brought up in the thread yet or not, but did you guys know christian bale was originally supposed to play w but dropped out when he wasn't satisfied with the make-up tests? i can't even imagine how he'd do bush...

[brody]

christian bale would probably make a better screen pairing with elizabeth banks then josh brolin

[The Southern Zombie]

It would have been cool to see him to do something so radically different from what he's been doing lately. I'd like to see him break out of the broody typecasting he's had over the past few years.

[Burnin']

When asked why he made the film, he said he did it for "money." Dreyfuss also said, "I think it's 6/8ths of a great film."

3/4ths!! i hate it when people dont minimize fractions

[brentholomew]

i saw it yesterday. i liked it but it wasn't flawless...

i disagree about condi being terrible. she wasn't even that prominent in the film, and i definitely see a resemblance between the actor and rice herself. i also disagree about 'perfect casting', as i thought it was sort of hit or miss. cheney, rove and rummy were perfect. powell, not so much. i thought stone projected the essence of powell's character pretty well but i thought the actor wasn't very good. i actually thought the whole father/son thing was pretty awkward and a bit overzealous.

like eddie said, i thought it was pretty weird they didn't include the 00 election in someway. i do like how it jumps from his upbringing to 2002-2004 but skipping such a relevant point of his success (sic) was odd. i think it would have been cool if it had ended with him winning the 00 election and the celebration. it would have been pretty ironic and would have fit with the way the plot was constructed

brolin was excellent as w though. like many of you i hate when people have to mention the academy everytime someone gives a solid performance but i'll be surprised if he doesn't get an oscar nom. that, and it was pretty funny at points. i laughed out loud several times.

the missteps actually don't take too much away from this very entertaining and relevant film. 8/10

[billi vanilli]

just saw this. really fucking good. way better than i was expecting. brolin was transcendent. i loved that stone didn't vilify bush any more than necessary... he really just painted a picture of what the man is like. but yeah condi was awful. and i wish cromwell had tried to mimic bush senior a little more... he really didn't try to imitate him at all, and it took me out of it.

the back and forth from his time in office and his life living up to it was a great way of telling the story. and the relationship between him and his father was fleshed out way more than i thought it would be.

one of the best movies i've seen thus far this year for sure. A-