"you're wrong! this is the best!"

[brentholomew]

do you ever get annoyed with the fact that sometimes a record will be universally accepted by critics and fans as the bands' best work when you strongly disagree? i do

hearts of oak>tyranny of distance
believo! and hocus pocus>high society
stories from the city, stories from the sea>rid of me
geogaddi>music has the right to children
surfer rosa>doolittle (willing to argue and discuss any of these except this one, i've done it enough)

i think i like the slow riot EP more than lift yr skinny fists but i guess that's different if you don't include full lengths. i like gimme fiction better than any other spoon stuff but they don't have one album that's considered their best by a longshot

[aoife]

surfer rosa>doolittle (willing to argue and discuss any of these except this one, i've done it enough)
I totally agree with you here.

[brancely]

i agree with surfer rosa over doolittle but similarly got sick of the kevin criticism

figure 8 > either or and xo
ga ga ga ga ga > all others (though there isn't really a consensus)
random spirit lover > shut up i am dreaming
pet grief > lesser matters

[brentholomew]

i thought about s/t over you forgot it in people but maybe that is a little insane

[My Little Needle]

no way, I'm always getting shit for saying doolittle>surfer rosa

I like f#a#∞ at least as much as skinny fists but I usually say the latter is my favorite.

I used to insist that

slanted and enchanted > crcr
:-X

[brentholomew]

i think you can make a case for all of pavement's first three albums

[Cerpin Taxt]

yeah i think wowee zowee>crcr by a hair.

also, i have to agree about godspeed. they got worse over time, asmz got better.

[America: Fuck Yea!]

geogaddi>music has the right to children


yes

[Eddie]

ga ga ga ga ga
thank you

and y'know, the more i think about, there are actually very few bands where i know for sure i like one album considerably more than all the others. i guess i have a hard time picking all-time favorites when it comes to music :gatorshrug:

[kevin]

i agree with surfer rosa over doolittle but similarly got sick of the kevin criticism

haha what

i don't even remember arguing this

anyway

andorra > all other caribou albums
widow city/ep > blueberry boat
let's stay friends > go forth, rome
boxer > alligator
harmacy > bakesale
the color of spring > laughing stock

i got hounded for this one

httt, in rainbows, the bends > kid a

[Chuckles Manson]

surfer rosa>doolittle (willing to argue and discuss any of these except this one, i've done it enough)

I only disagree to the extent that I think surfer rosa=doolittle


One I can think of for me is "Paul's Boutique". For years it was once the most disliked album by fans and critics of the Beastie Boys, but now it's pretty much universally accepted by those same fans and critics as the BBoys best album that was "years ahead of its time" . I do agree that it is a great album, but in my opinion I still think:
Check Your Head > Paul's Boutique

[America: Fuck Yea!]

andorra > all other caribou albums



they're almost so different, I don't even bother.


Check Your Head > Paul's Boutique

yes

[Chuckles Manson]

i got hounded for this one

httt, in rainbows, the bends > kid a

Honestly, I'd probably say
the bends > all other radiohead

That's not a very bold statement. Every radiohead fan has their opinion of their favorite, and I think each one can be defended for it's strengths and weaknesses (except for Pablo Honey).

[fritz]

amber > tri repetae
apollo: atmospheres & soundtracks > music for airports
sister > daydream nation
low life > power corruption & lies
tender prey > let love in (close. i'll prolly get shit for this one)

[brentholomew]

i agree with kevin's caribou and fiery furnaces picks

[fritz]

self-non-self > loved and forever

[Clark Westfall]

Honestly, I'd probably say
the bends > all other radiohead

Yes

[bmac]

apollo: atmospheres & soundtracks > music for airports
low life > power corruption & lies

agreed on both of these

fear of a black planet > it takes a nation...

[caribou]

harmacy > bakesaleindeed

propeller > bee thousand
hissing fauna > satanic panic
natural bridge > american water
bossanova > surfer rosa > doolittle
heartstrings > coast

[kevin]

yeah i'd say hissing fauna is my fave of montreal as well.

[grissom]

hearts of oak>tyranny of distance

Yep. I didn't know the opposite was a widely accepted opinion.

[brancely]

wait, satanic panic in the attic is the consensus favorite? whaaa

mine is easily sunlandic twins

[Kamerica]

station to station > low

[jase]

Yeah, Hissing Fauna would be my favourite as well

XO > Either/or
Bossanova > Surfer Rosa
Lookout Mountain, Lookout Sea > American Water
Takk... > all other Sigur Ros albums

[bmac]

i don't think there's any real consensus as to the best bowie album. it's quite debatable. my favorite is ziggy stardust.

[caribou]

wait, satanic panic in the attic is the consensus favorite? whaaauh, yeah. most definitely

sunlandic just kind of came and went and hissing fauna seems to have totally split people

i actually bought the latter for my friend's birthday and she gave it away ( :( ), but satanic panic is one of her favorite albums of all time

[doyle]

his n hers > different class
lemon of pink > everything

[anthony]

his n hers > different class

totally

[Kamerica]

i don't think there's any real consensus as to the best bowie album. it's quite debatable. my favorite is ziggy stardust.
this is true, but low is often considered the best of the berlin era

[box elder]

satanic panic is sort of like the middle ground between the early, straight-up e6 of montreal albums and the ones that followed. i'd actually say hissing fauna>satanic panic>sunlandic

[SilverEagle]

Animals > Dark Side Of The Moon
Station To Station > Ziggy Stardust
Houses Of The Holy > IV
Sea Change > Odelay
In Utero > Nevermind
Vitalogy > Ten

[brancely]

hissing fauna works great as an album, but sunlandic twins just plain has the best songs. i don't see how you could say the album that produced the outback steakhouse jingle "came and went."

[pearl]

he didn't
i prefer hunky dory to ziggy stardust

[Kamerica]

i think the arrangement of hunky dory could have been better but yeah mostly i agree with you

[SilverEagle]

Hunky Dory is pretty great. The first three tracks in particular. Station To Station will likely always be my favorite though.

[America: Fuck Yea!]

honky dory and ziggy are his best records. low is great but criminally overrated by indie brooklyn no thanks to bitchfork.

[caribou]

the problem with low is that half of it is a brian eno album, and if i want a brian eno album i'll listen to a...

lodger is my favorite of the berlin/eno trilogy

[bmac]

i don't think that's the problem with low. i don't really think there is a problem with low. it's a great album. brian eno should do half of every album.

[fritz]

pet grief > lesser matters
this past week ep is pretty much my fav of theirs

[kuumuus]

fear of music > remain in light (RiL is my 4th favorite heads album)
widow city > blueberry boat (not even close)
the who sell out > who's next
bleach > nevermind (i don't expect anyone to agree)
ride the lightning > master of puppets
fulfillingness' first finale > innervisions/songs in the key of life
queen II > a night at the opera (very close)
funkentelechy vs the placebo syndrome > mothership connection
the yes album > fragile/close to the edge
hemispheres > moving pictures (RUSH)
under the big black sun > los angeles
show your bones > fever to tell

lodger is also my favorite of the berlin trilogy. easily.

[fritz]

new day rising > zen arcade
porcupine > ocean rain

edit: oh shit is that the rush album with the cygnus song on it

song's pretty much the best prog song ever

[kuumuus]

the title track on hemispheres is part ii of cygnus x-1. it was my favorite song at one time.

cygnus x-1, from the previous lp, might be the one you're thinking of. with the kickass bass intro.

[brancely]

this past week ep is pretty much my fav of theirsup?

[fritz]

k

[SilverEagle]

figure 8 > either or and xo

I'm new to Smith's work, so it's close for me. I haven't heard Figure 8 yet, just the other two, but if Somebody That I Used To Know and Everything Reminds Me Of Her are any indication, I may just end up agreeing with you here. One thing I love about his records is that they end very well, so these are all good signs.

ga ga ga ga ga > all others (though there isn't really a consensus)

Hmm...it's maybe second best for me. I just love Girls Can Tell so much. But they're about tied. Ga has the knockout single tracks, but GCT is a better cohesive piece of work.

[gheorghe]

in rainbows / okc > httt > the bends / kid a > amnesiac / pablo honey

that's probably the only place preference deviates from consensus

for pixies i'm all for the norm that is

doolittle > surfer/pilgrim > bossanova

they're all (almost equally) brilliant though

[gheorghe]

oh yeah and

mellow gold > odelay

and guero doesn't suck at all

[SilverEagle]

oh yeah and

mellow gold > odelay

and guero doesn't suck at all

Fuck yes. Mellow Gold and his really obscure early tapes are great stuff.

[fritz]

in ribbons > comfort of madness

[caribou]

have only had the former for a few days but i think i agree

[Chuckles Manson]

bleach > nevermind (i don't expect anyone to agree)

I disagree to the effect that it doesn't sound like a Nirvana albums. "Bleach" sounds like a Melvins fan made an album that sounds a lot like the Melvins; which is exactly what it is. Of course, having the Melvins drummer play on three songs adds even more to that perception. Then there's Chad Channing on the rest of the album, who is no where near as good as Dave Grohl.

I think the band still had a long way to go creatively when they made "Bleach". I like "Bleach" a hell of a lot, but I have to agree with the critics and fans, and put "Nevermind" above it.

[Chuckles Manson]

Here's one where everyone can disagree with me:
The Clash > London Calling

[caribou]

i think most clash dudes on the board agree with you actually

[Adamm R)))]

ride the lightning > master of puppets

kill 'em all > both

i prefer hunky dory to ziggy stardust

yeah, I agree. hunky dory has life on mars and I just prefer its overall poppier sound.

low life > power corruption & lies

I agree with this too. substance is miles better than both though.

the bends > all other radiohead

all other radiohead > the bends
I just can't get into that album.

a few others:
milk eyed mender > ys
wish you were here > all other floyd
the white album > rest (is this unpopular? I thought most people go for abbey road or revolver)
the uplift mofo party plan > blood sugar sex magik (I'm sure no one here cares)
closer > unknown pleasures (I thought most people go with the other way around, but I'm not sure)

[America: Fuck Yea!]

the white album is my favorite Beatles album despite some filler.

but this might be controversial:

rubber soul>revolver

[gheorghe]

wywh is tied with animals for favourite floyd record

[box elder]

obscured is my favorite, so that's probably way in the minority

[America: Fuck Yea!]

meddle is their best imo (obscured is a lot of stuff that didn't make it onto this record so I consider them very closely related)

followed by animals and wywh

and I think atom heart mother is grossly underrated.

[Adamm R)))]

yeah, ahm is great.

so is dsotm anyone's favourite?

[gheorghe]

actually was about to respond to lawnboy's post with

i think dark side is grossly overrated. i'd place at least four other floyd records before it

[America: Fuck Yea!]

actually was about to respond to lawnboy's post with

i think dark side is grossly overrated. i'd place at least four other floyd records before it

where the hell did i mention dark side of the moon?

[SilverEagle]

but this might be controversial:

rubber soul>revolver

I agree with you though. Rubber Soul coheres, while Revolver is just sounds like a collection of (excellent) songs. Plus, I never could stand Yellow Submarine.

[Adamm R)))]

I'd put dsotm on par with animals as second, probably. and that's mostly because of how well the album flows - time is the only worthwhile track when you look at everything individually.

[brentholomew]

just as long as no one thinks the wall is the best. uggh

[Chuckles Manson]

rubber soul>revolver

My best friend (a rabid Beatles fan) would agree with you.
I have no opinion (as I don't really care for the Beatles).


X: More Fun In The New World & Wild Gift > Los Angeles
Wire: 154 > Pink Flag
Stooges: Raw Power (1997 Iggy/Dickinson Mix) > Fun House > Raw Power (1973 Bowie Mix)

[gheorghe]

where the hell did i mention dark side of the moon?
you didn't

you were pointing out that ahm was underrated, i chimed in and said i thought dsotm is overrated.

[SilverEagle]

Summer '68 is one of Floyd's best songs, and I agree with the assertion that AHM is underrated.

[America: Fuck Yea!]

yeah, I think the wall is terrible.

[kevin]

154 > Pink Flag


chairs missing > both of them

[bmac]

i don't mind the wall that much. i don't think it's great by any means, but it has some good tracks. meddle and wish you were here are my favorites.

[Dewey Finn]

rubber soul>revolver
This is very interesting topic. Rubber Soul definitely has better songs, but Revolver, for some reason, appeals to me more with soime of my all-time fav songs like 'I'm Only Sleeping' or 'Taxman'. I'm torn on this one.

Electric Ladyland > Cry of Love/Ray of New Rising Sun (My opinion could change here. Electric Ladyland had some unnecessary tracks)

...And Justice For All > Black Album

[Jakebert]

New Day Rising > Zen Arcade
Michigan > Illinois
Animals > Piper at the Gates of Dawn > Wish You Were Here > Meddle > Dark Side of the Moon
EVOL > Sister
The White Album > Sgt Pepper

[grissom]

DSOTM is still my favorite Pink Floyd, but Wish You Were Here is a really, really close second.

[Slack Motherfucker]

whip smart > exile in guyville
beggar's banquet > exile on mainstreet
new day rising > warehouse > zen arcade
alien lanes > all
slanted and enchanted > crooked rain
white album > revolver > all

[Snack Related Mishap]

Guero > Odelay
Quadrophenia > Tommy
Kid A > OK Computer

[box elder]

Animals > Piper at the Gates of Dawn > Wish You Were Here > Meddle > Dark Side of the Moon

i actually like piper better than all the others, but i don't really include it in floyd rankings because it's totally different

[ZQFMGB]

Abbey Road> All
Quadrophenia> All

[Jakebert]

i actually like piper better than all the others, but i don't really include it in floyd rankings because it's totally different

Yeah, I've always had trouble knowing where to put Piper. It's position with Animals goes back and forth depending on which one I've listened to most recently.

[America: Fuck Yea!]

i actually like piper better than all the others, but i don't really include it in floyd rankings because it's totally different


agreed. as far as I am concerned, it is a Syd Barrett album and therefore in competition with Madcap Laughs and Barrett. I don't think I have ever included it in my top PF albums lists.

[box elder]

in that case, piper>madcap>barrett

[anthony]

chairs missing > both of them
Abbey Road> All
pretty universal opinions
rubber soul>revolver
entirely so

[bmac]

abbey road being better than all other beatles albums is definitely not anywhere near a universal opinion

[anthony]

"you're wrong! this is the best!"

nah you're right

[kevin]

i've heard pretty much equal praise for pink flag and chairs missing but i see your point

[Chuckles Manson]

...And Justice For All > Black Album

That is not controversial. That is correct.
James and Lars crying on film > Justice and before > Black album and after

[grübermeister]

I used to insist that

slanted and enchanted > crcr
:-X

I wouldn't hate you for that. Although Crooked Rain>Slanted.

I used to be like Youth & Young Manhood >>>>>> Aha Shake Heartbreak, but now I'm not so sure... although there is one thing I'm sure of Because of the times>>>>>>>>>>> The other two.

Guero > Odelay

Insanium!

[gheorghe]

Guero > Odelay
Kid A > OK Computer
no and no

i try not to badmouth the wall because i loved that record and it was what got me into pink floyd in the first place, but i watched the movie yesterday to refresh my memory and apart from gilmour's bit on comfortably numb, goddamn was the music awful. should be counted a roger waters solo album. self-indulgent tripe. the one song i really liked was "is there anybody out there?" without the intro/vocals.

s&e > crcr krew