UK: General Simpsons Chat

[Drunk Barney]

I'm looking forward to a second watch of that tonight. I hope I don't downgrade it like I did with On a Clear Day I Can't See My Sister and Don't Fear the Roofer.

predicted grade for H_T = A-

[Butters]

Just bringing this back to your attention:
Possible cuts from Home Away From Homer...

(Bart and Milhouse are watching "Sexy Slumber Party" on their computer. The brown-haired girl is on the blonde-haired girl's lap, as blonde holds a framed photo of Rodd [or is it Todd?]. Blonde spanks Brown with the photo.)
Brown : Spank me again with little boy's picture.

Homer : I want to set our relationship off on the right foot; so if you need anything, anything at all, just--
Coach : Hmmm... (picks up Flander's doormat that reads "Bless Our Guest") the jack-off left this here. (Coach throws it away and puts his own doormat down "Ring Doorbell For Free Ass Kicking)
Homer: Uh...

[snrub]

The first one was cut - the second one wasn't. Why did you think it would be BTW?

[H Thompson]

because of jack-off.

[Butters]

Oh... what about this short dialogue during the pillow fight:
Girl # 1: Do you think anyone's watching?
Girl # 2: I hope so. Or they won't see us explore our sexes without restraints. (I think this is what she said, her accent made it hard to transcribe)

And then, later on, did it show them dabbing each other with wet paintbrushes?

I should've really watched this myself. Stupid no-good social life.

[JonHillier]

Yeah the paintbrush stuff went on. I'm not sure whether I liked the episode or not - there were one or two good jokes etc... but the story seemed thin. Not the worst episode I've ever seen, but still hit and miss.

[Veryjammy]

I didn't really enjoy it, my reviews in the Voting Booth.

Although the bits they cut seem pretty funny to me, damn Sky

[Terrier Williger]

Yeah, i was dissapointed - only good moments were Neds 'tache gag, the town of Humbleton, and Homers new neighbour. The rest was meh at best.
But it does look like they cut some of the funnier moments out.

[Rowdy Roddy Peeper]

Pretty meh indeed, With such a decent enough main plot (Flanders move after Homer causes a massive humiliation) i thought this could be a 'Hurricane Neddy' 2, but it didn't work amazingly. I mean Humbleton town, what the hell was that??

- 3/5

[Nameless]

Tonights showing of Oh, Brother Where Art Thou on Channel 4 ommited a scene that had previously gone intact. They removed Bart chanting the word "bastard", after he thwarted his parents by using it in it's correct context. Unfortunately, he can't stump Channel 4. Not only that, but a few minutes later in the episode, they also removed Homer calling his brother a bastard. Both these scenes were intact in the premiere a few months ago, and possibly the rerun a couple of weeks ago.

no, first run only.

[Simpsons Forever!]

It wasn't as good as it could have been, but not a bad episode - there were no wacky scenes and the plot remained focused. Then again, it wasn't that funny. B

[Jayrayman]

Future-Drama next up. Which we have to wait till August 28th for :( Shit organisation on Sky Ones behalf over Season 16 after they did so well on the arrangement over the last series.

[Nameless]

they have to stretch the season out around the year no matter how few they show per month so they can claim to show "new simpsons all year round".

[H Thompson]

In which case they should go by the method of once every 2 weeks and occasionly 3 weeks, instead of having it in successive weeks for 1 month and then having gaps of over a month between episodes.

[matt228]

Firstly, I'd like to announce that I'm back - I was at my grandparent's near Durham from Friday to today (Monday).

Secondly, I'd like to say that since they don't have Sky (only Freeview), I missed Home Away From Homer - never mind, eh? In S15 I missed apparantely the 2 best episodes; The President Wore Pearls and My Mother the Carjacker, but I'm not losing sleep over that.

Thirdly, whoever said about Will & Grace being shit is expressing their opinion (fair enough) but being quite small-minded about other people's likes & dislikes - I for one think Will & Grace is a great show (though I don't watch it every week).

Finally, I'd like to apologise to anyone who wasted time reading this message when they didn't really care.

[Rich Uncle Skeleton]

In which case they should go by the method of once every 2 weeks and occasionly 3 weeks, instead of having it in successive weeks for 1 month and then having gaps of over a month between episodes.

amen to that

[Drunk Barney]

Welcome Back. I must say this place is never the same without you. Not sure why!

Firstly, I'd like to announce that I'm back - I was at my grandparent's near Durham from Friday to today (Monday). - That just make's me laugh!!

Not sure if this is kinda off topic but meh

Scott V- may I just say that your song section on your site is class. I have dial up and the songs download very quick!. Keep up the new songs!

[Head Bee-Guy]

Yeah I saw the episode tonight - although they did leave in the first 'bastard' from the dialogue. In fact that's the first time I've noticed the word used in this episode, which i havn't seen on TV since taping it off the BBC quite a few years ago. There's no mention of the word at all in the copy I have.
The BBC always removed that scene, I'd never seen it until I got the DVD. I was a bit surprised that it was in the original airing on C4, which I happened to see at the time, though I don't think anything was being censored when they first bought the rights.

[Simpsons Forever!]

Wezzo's updated again - there will be NO new episodes in September on Sky! This is surprising, considering S17 will have started by then - I thought they would air the last of S16 in September/October. I hope they're not planning another marathon of episodes.

Also, 5F01 The Cartridge Family and 4F22 The City Of New York vs. Homer Simpson are both scheduled to air on Sky on 26th September! Great news, as I haven't seen the latter one before - however, they have both been scheduled, then cancelled before, so this isn't definite.

[Butters]

Excellent news. Thanks for that Simpsons Forever!

[Nameless]

What timeslot will they be aired in? I have a feeling they'll still cancel if too early.

[Simpsons Forever!]

7pm and 7:30pm.

[Butters]

Just wondering, if they do have the balls to air them if anything will be cut. Like Homer threatening to shoot the king of England.

And, also, is anyone else surprised that neither Sky or C4 have started cutting explosions? I mean, if they thought that people might complain about tidal wave references, certainly they should be afraid that people might be offended by seeing explosions, considering all this shit that's going on with London.

[Nameless]

thanks. they'll be most likely subject to editing, though - not over the fence yet.

[Leon Kompowsky]

Also, 5F01 The Cartridge Family and 4F22 The City Of New York vs. Homer Simpson are both scheduled to air on Sky on 26th September! .

oh my god!oh my god!oh my god! please let them show the cartridge family, I think thats the only one i've never seen :D :chug:

[Dorkus Malorkus]

awesome stuff, they are the only two episodes that i know of that have been banned from uk screens before...

[matt228]

Wezzo's updated again - there will be NO new episodes in September on Sky! This is surprising, considering S17 will have started by then - I thought they would air the last of S16 in September/October. I hope they're not planning another marathon of episodes.

Also, 5F01 The Cartridge Family and 4F22 The City Of New York vs. Homer Simpson are both scheduled to air on Sky on 26th September! Great news, as I haven't seen the latter one before - however, they have both been scheduled, then cancelled before, so this isn't definite.
That's great news. For some reason the page doesn't have the 23 July update on AOL (it displays 9 July update), but Internet Explorer does...

[Nameless]

awesome stuff, they are the only two episodes that i know of that have been banned from uk screens before...

http://www.thebritsons.co.uk/?go=theshow/banned

Now you know some more!

So, what do you think will happen with the two banned episodes airing soon? Do you think they'll edit offensive stuff? Will they just leave it intact and air it as it is? Will they air some kind of warning before the episode starts like they do in Ireland before they air NYC?

[Jayrayman]

awesome stuff, they are the only two episodes that i know of that have been banned from uk screens before...

Weekend at Burnsies?

[Dorkus Malorkus]

Weekend at Burnsie's wasn't banned, it was just...pushed back to a later hour by Sky.

and Carolyn, the ones of Butters' page dont show any that were actually banned other than 4F22 and 5F01...with perhaps the exception of CABF10. That's why it took me so long to see Day of the Jackanapes!

[Nameless]

They were banned for a while...isn't that good enough for you? ;)

[Drunk Barney]

Really good news about The City of New York vs. Homer Simpson. Somehow I'm not very convinced. Sky have done this before only to backtrack. Anyway if they do air I expect a fair bit will be cut. And Leon K I wouldn't get your hopes up about The Cartridge Family. Like the New York episode they backed out last time they had it aired. Infact wasn't it the same time last year they aired it before backing out?

Anyway Leon, if your so despreate to see The Cartridge Family and Sky do back out then you do no it's on the video " Too Hot for TV ". I got it off Ebay for a £1!

[Nameless]

Infact wasn't it the same time last year they aired it before backing out?

Yes, it was scheduled to air twice late 2004 (september and november, wasn't it?) but both slots were replaced a few days beforehand.

[Butters]

Last year, they were supposed to air on the 11th of November 2004. On 4th November 2004 they dropped it from their schedules.

[snrub]

because of jack-off.

Duh. I'm an idiot for not spotting that. Thanks HT!

Hopefully Sky will show City of New York - I haven't seen that in ages. Although by the time it's on, I wont have Sky anymore - I'm off to uni. I have all the luck!

[Nameless]

you can use a vcr. just turn the cable on to avoid taping blank green screen. can't you?

and it was scheduled to air twice, butters, i'm sure i remember reading that somewhere, perhaps on a page from snpp or simpsorama i got from www.archive.org

[snrub]

Yeah I can, although I'm not that desperate to see it - it'd involve traveling back home to get the tape and getting my parents to tape it who can hardly work the video! I'm sure I'll see it again soon enough!

[Rich Uncle Skeleton]

Ever heard of the postal service...?

And, also, is anyone else surprised that neither Sky or C4 have started cutting explosions? I mean, if they thought that people might complain about tidal wave references, certainly they should be afraid that people might be offended by seeing explosions, considering all this shit that's going on with London.
I assume they would only cut episodes if there was a specific reference to bombs/terrorism, for example "Grade School Confidential" (Skinner waering the hotdogs).

[matt228]

Yes, it was scheduled to air twice late 2004 (september and november, wasn't it?) but both slots were replaced a few days beforehand.
It was 11th November and some time mid-December.

[Veryjammy]

Girl # 1: Do you think anyone's watching?
Girl # 2: I hope so. Or they won't see us explore our sexes without restraints. (I think this is what she said, her accent made it hard to transcribe)

Butters the above was cut from the Sky showing as well, I don't know if you already knew that, I just thought I'd mention it since it isn't listed on your site. The editing was really shitty on that bit, they show Bart and Millhouse at the computer with music in the background and then cut to them laughing straight away with the music ending so abruptly it's obvious it's been edited.

[Leon Kompowsky]

Anyway Leon, if your so despreate to see The Cartridge Family and Sky do back out then you do no it's on the video " Too Hot for TV ". I got it off Ebay for a £1!

A £1! I'll just wait for the box set :snooty:

[matt228]

A £1! I'll just wait for the box set :snooty:
Not too much of a wait considering the new 2 per year system. Season 9 should be out 2007.

[matt228]

Home Away From Homer is repeated tomorrow night at 7pm, right? If it is, I can catch up on missing it on Sunday.

[Nameless]

yes but how hard is it to check the snpp page?

[snrub]

Ever heard of the postal service...

Yes, but like i said I'm not that desperate...or dare I say it, sad. Plus I like how you think I could even afford a video player being a poor student! ;)

Just posted this in the S6 dvd thread - but FOX UK and play.com suggest the dvd has slipped to October 24th here in the UK

[Drunk Barney]

Edit: nevermind.

[Rich Uncle Skeleton]

I'm a student. I have a VCR. :P
But it's okay, you don't need to justify yourself, I was just making a joke at the fact you were justifying yourself, rather than saying you should faff around recording the episode ;)

[snrub]

Haha No problem. Although I might invest in one of those new fangled disc things when I get to Uni Land - Season 6 awaits!

[matt228]

yes but how hard is it to check the snpp page?
Not hard at all, but up to and including last night, my computer displayed the 9 July update. Today I went on and saw the 23 July update for the first time.

[Simpsons Forever!]

So, if the S6 DVD has been held back in the UK until late October, does this mean C4 will not show S6 until then?

[Nameless]

No, if they repeated S2-S5 again after their next run of S5 then there's no way they'll be able to hold s6 back to october. As september and october are close together, i have a feeling we'll still see season 6 in september.

[Butters]

Yeah, what Nameless said. It's allowed to air anywhere between September-November (if it is an October release), if it's more convenient.

btw, did anyone catch the repeat of Home Away From Homer last night? Was the spanking scene still absent?

[Rich Uncle Skeleton]

Why are they gonna show Seasons 2-5 again? Why not Seasons 11 and 12? Anyhoo I notice Sky One are showing Who Shot Mr. Burns Part 1 tonight... <let the bickering commence> ;)

[Nameless]

they possibly might have obtained the rights to show it...before c4 show it...in october...

[Butters]

Actually, two possible solutions:

1) The initial delay of C4 showing Season 6 after their first showing of season 5 was because they placed a miscounted order of episodes. Maybe, they still went through with the order, even if one episode is still missing.
2) Or, C4 have decided to get Who Shot Mr. Burns (Part 1) along with Season 7, as to not single the two parter across two stations. It's possible.

[Nameless]

The NYC episode will also be airing august 7 (a week from now) at 6pm, btw. Looks like this isn't just a one-off...

another theory for sky airing WSMB I is that following it tonight is WSMB II; could it be they've been allowed to air them together and gotten special rights from c4, like with the 350th episode countdown?

[matt228]

So, if the S6 DVD has been held back in the UK until late October, does this mean C4 will not show S6 until then?
Amazon.co.uk still says 5 September...

[Nameless]

yeah, according to the s6 dvd thread this could be an error on fox's behalf (it has got it wrong before).

[Drunk Barney]

wow just a week to the new york episode :D

i wonder why they've raised the ban?

[Rowdy Roddy Peeper]

because now they are banning 'The Regina Monologues'???? :)

[Drunk Barney]

hmmm no. You can change your sig now your not my worlds most friendliest member!

Who wants to be so they can quote it in there sig? :D

Anyway I suspect the adverts in between The City of New York vs. Homer Simpson will be long....longer than usual that is!

[H Thompson]

I have signatures and avatars disabled now, makes it much quicker to scroll down.

[Drunk Barney]

aren't you a little rude boy:D, you should get a big picture of Marge to annouy Silverlimit. so will this be a first time you will view the new york episode since '01 then people? or have you downloaded it?. I downloaded it back in 2004.

[H Thompson]

But you see his hate of Marge comes from the fact that as well as dislikng her as a character he secretly fancies her.

[Nameless]

i downloaded it late 2004 but haven't found it since.

i think the only thing that risks being cut is the "stick all the jerks in tower 1" conversation, however it goes.

[matt228]

so will this be a first time you will view the new york episode since '01 then people? or have you downloaded it?. I downloaded it back in 2004.
I've never seen The City of New York vs Homer Simpson. Before 2001, I didn't really watch The Simpsons, so I missed it when it was still airing.

I can't wait to see it!

P.S. if this episode was banned because it featured the Twin Towers, why aren't all pre-season 8 episodes of Friends banned? They're set in New York (filmed in LA). I love Friends though so I'd hate them to be banned.

[Butters]

Because, Friends didn't have an episode where Ross lent Joey his car, and the next morning found out that it had parked it directly inbetween the towers. In Friends, The Twin Towers could only be seen in transitional shots. Same applies to Married... With Children, which featured the towers in it's opening sequence (iirc).

Anyway, I saw The City of New York vs. Homer Simpson when it first premiered on Sky. So, I ain't wetting myself about it.

[Nameless]

They're set in New York (filmed in LA).

if they're filmed in los angeles how can they possibly show shots of things in new york?

[Butters]

The show is set in New York, when they switch scenes they use stock footage of New York as exterior shots.

[E-I-E-I-Moe]

I don't really understand why Homer parking his car between the World Trade Center towers is offensive and can't be shown...

[Nameless]

because of 9/11 and because sky are paranoid and have complete double standards.

[snrub]

yeah, according to the s6 dvd thread this could be an error on fox's behalf (it has got it wrong before).

But play have changed their release date and they are rarely wrong

[EspanolBot]

Agh.

[Simpsons Forever!]

Just checked the Sky listings on my TV and they show The City Of New York vs. Homer Simpson on Sunday. This is a very good sign, as the episode has never been included in these listings post Sept 11th.

[Leon Kompowsky]

Well, I have it on tape but I still set my + to record it on sunday. Its probably only a B+ episode but still very funny in places.

'ya gotta call da number on da boot!'

[The lesson is never try]

But play have changed their release date and they are rarely wrong

play may have copied it off fox, amazons kept the same so im still hoping.

[snrub]

I don't think play just "copy it" off other websites. They'll have been informed by fox themselves. Choices direct also has the dvd listed as october, I checked today

[Head Bee-Guy]

I've never seen "City of New York vs...", it's almost definitely the earliest one I haven't seen, so I'm looking forward to it.

The Radio Times has it listed for Sunday as well, hooray.

[matt228]

Can't wait for The City of New York vs Homer Simpson!!!

[Butters]

Good to know.

[Nameless]

After Big Brother is finished, C4 will be finishing off S11. Kill The Alligator And Run is confirmed to air 9pm on Friday August 26, and the 9pm slot the previous Friday (August 19) is TBC but it's most likely that it will be taken by Days Of Wine And D'oh'ses.

EDIT: RadioTimes agrees with Days of Wine airing Aug 19

[Drunk Barney]

Good news about Season 11. Pro Frink - have you ever seen the New York episode?

[Butters]

So, thankfully, Season 13 should air after those remaining episodes finish airing!

[Nameless]

Why is it likely that s13 will be run? Won't they want to rerun S12 at least once again?

[Butters]

I was told Season 13 should air in September.

[matt228]

Pro Frink - have you ever seen the New York episode?
No.

I was told Season 13 should air in September.
You were told that by whom?

[Nameless]

By Channel 4. Who else is going to tell him? ITV1?

the nyc episode airs tomorrow. How many days were left until it would have aired when it was pulled late 2004?

[Simpsons Forever!]

It was cancelled a week before it aired last time it was scheduled, so it's looking good!

[Rowdy Roddy Peeper]

20 minutes to go, surely it will air.

[Butters]

OH, FUCK, GUYS!

The pan of Old New York was edited to fit our screens and miss out one of the twin towers, I think.

Maybe it was just my shitty reception, but the following line was muted (in bold):
Marge: Great! We're all going to New York!
Homer: Lousy Bart with his money. All right New York! I'm coming back! But you're not getting this! [Homer grabs his wallet and tosses it into the fireplace]
Lisa: Dad, our baby pictures were in there.
Homer: Don't you start!

And, they've removed some shots of the towers. The first was when Homer found his card, in which they just zoomed into Homer's parked car.

And, after the "we don't wanna go to canada" scene, they cut a shot. You can tell because the establishing music was dodgy.

Homer attempts to take the clamp off by hand, and then by teeth when he has no success...
Guy in Tower: Hey when you're done with that, I've got something up here you can bite off!
Guy in Tower 2: Hey why don't you be polite you stinking puss bag?! [to Homer] Pal, you gotta call the number on the boot. Sorry about that guy. They stick all the jerks in Tower one.
Man in Tower: That's it! I'm coming over there.
[they yell at each other until a third guy - in a higher floor in tower 1 - has a voice which is louder than both]
Other Guy: SHUT UP THE BOTH OF YA'S!!!

Strangely, enough, they left a shot of the towers in when we saw the statue of liberty.

Again this might be my reception, but Homer calling the New Yorker who didn't give him money a "cheapskate" was muted.

But, they haven't edited out the guy pointing to the tower telling Homer to use the bathroom in there.

They didn't cut Homer running from tower to tower...

But, they did edit out Homer's long "ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh" from the establishing shot of the tower.

And the scene where Homer finds his parking ticket seems as if it's been cut.

Also, it looks as if they've removed the two spiked-toppy bits from both the towers. I don't know if they're there in a regular copy of the episode though.


Well, that sure was lame of sky, wasn't it?

[George Cauldron]

I got the 'lousy cheapskate' part, but the conversation between the guys in the towers, and the orgasmic relieving was noticeably cut. Just be glad they actually aired the episode.

[Leon Kompowsky]

the cheapskate bit was in there and I dont think there was any difference in the wallet burning bit. I noticed the guys arguing between the towers was missing which is one of the best bits in the episode but I half expected them to cut that anyway.
Interesting to know what the people who hadnt seen it thought of it on their first viewing. Its still pretty overrated to me B/B+

[matt228]

Over-rated. B/B-

[Head Bee-Guy]

Oops, I got the tape ready and forgot to actually set it. Only 4 years till the next showing I suppose :s

[Mario]

Over rated, wasn't that funny.

[simplysimpsons]

First time I've seen it, and for the earliest episode in s9, I can't believe how much of a jerk Homer was. Some funny moments, like Homer desperate for something to eat, the D'oh! echoing around, Bart licking the pole, and the Betty Ford Center. The wraparound stuff was also cool at the beginning. It is marred by Homer's pure jerkassness though, and long dull moments in NY. Overrated, C+

[simplysimpson]

Wow, surprised there were so many who hadn't actually seen the episode until tonight. Anyways, it's a hillarious episode - great seeing it again.

Complaints over "jerkass homer" - that's what makes it freakin' funny.

[Veryjammy]

Hadn't seen it for 7 years so was like a new viewing for me. Takes the title of most overrated episode ever C/C-

[Rowdy Roddy Peeper]

One, if not Season 9's best imo. I really couldn't believe how funny Homer was and i was really intrigued with the adventure, as i remembered it being so funny and my memory was right.
Maybe it was slightly wacky, but i loved every minute of Homer's adventure, sure the rest of the family could of had a more interesting time (apart from the Betty Ford clinic - that was great), but i simply loved it.
5/5

[amir05]

The was the first time i saw this episode,it was a good episode.slightly overrated imo B

[Grippa]

It's a good episode, but still vastly overrated. Hadn't seen it in so long. B

[Rich Uncle Skeleton]

D'oh, I actually missed a lot of it cos I was cooking dinner...as a lot of people have said, the episode is overrated.

[Simpsons Forever!]

It wasn't that great - I could've waited for the S9 DVD now they are releasing them quicker. B-

[Greased Scotsman]

I had downloaded it about two years ago, but it was the first time I'd seen the non-syndicated version, so things like Lisa talking to the bum on the subway and Homer saying "Lousy Bart and his money" were new to me.

: Also, the bit with the Very Tall Man was new to me. In the opening shot on the bus, I said 'Look, there's the VTM!' at the beginning, not realising that he was involved in a joke.

I'd give it a B+, as it's a funny episode (Homer being incredibly angry for no reason was brilliant), but it's not one of my favourites.

Roll on Sept 26th and the Cartridge Family.

[Nameless]

Hey, there’s an internet café here!

NYC episode edits don’t sound too bad. Judging by the capsule they could have been a lot worse.

(remember itv are airing the pitts tonight!)

[snrub]

The s6 date has been officially pushed back in the UK according to the fox press release...

http://www.dvdtimes.co.uk/content.php?contentid=58122

I've posted it in the official thread as well, but may get lost under all the "gimme the freakin' normal box without POP" chat

[matt228]

In a slightly related matter, does anyone have an official confirmation of the UK release date for The Simpsons Complete Sixth Season on DVD?
Sources have different dates:
www.amazon.co.uk = Monday 5 September
www.play.com = Monday 17 October
www.cd-wow.com = Monday 17 October
www.tesco.com = Monday 17 October
www.woolworths.co.uk = Monday 17 October
www.whsmith.co.uk = Monday 17 October
www.asda.co.uk = Monday 24 October

Most places say 17/10 but does anyone know the truth?

EDIT: Damn, the previous post got through while I was typing this one, so I didn't know.

[Drunk Barney]

Meh, 2 months beat 3.

[Greased Scotsman]

Whatever happened to the 'good old days' of Series 2, where we got the DVDs near or even before the US date?

[Maggie J Simpson]

Just a quick note - tomorrow marks the final of Big Brother (I'm sure I'll get flamed for admitting I watch it and I want Anthony or Kinga to win), meaning next Friday, the 19th, is Big Brother-free, and Simpsons will be on at 9. According to What's On TV, they will be showing Days Of Wine And D'oh'ses, meaning they are picking up where they left off.

[Greased Scotsman]

Yeah, that was mentioned a few days ago. No word on whether they'll be showing S13 after 11 is finished, tho.

[simplysimpsons]

Kinga is one of the worst excuses for a human being I think I ever saw, but on a more related note here's the full lineup for fridays from C4's site (Apologies if this has been posted before but you might like to see the full lineup):

7.35 Friends

8.00 NEW Scrubs
8.30 NEW Will and Grace

9.00 (NEW - Season 11) The Simpsons
9.30 NEW Meet the Magoons

10.00 Max and Paddy's Road to Nowhere

10.30 NEW Balls of Steel
11.20 NEW Bromwell High

12.20 Desperate Housewives


New episodes of Scrubs and Will & Grace normally pull in the ratings, so this should mean good ratings for OFF. However, "Meet the Magoons" doesn't look so great and I don't think it will do that well.

[Greased Scotsman]

It's already been stated that Days of Wine WILL start the run. Kill The Alligator and Run is the following week.

[H Thompson]

Just a quick note - tomorrow marks the final of Big Brother (I'm sure I'll get flamed for admitting I watch it and I want Anthony or Kinga to win), .

meh I was rooting for anyone but Craig, and I got my wish yesterday,

anyway people as you were.

[Veryjammy]

Kinga, Kinga, Kinga. Oh the shame.

Anyway to keep this vaguely on topic, last I heard the show wasn't performing very well in the 9 o'clock slot on C4, maybe it validates the BBC's decision to put it at 6 for all those years.

And OT again, The Pitts is on at 2.25 this morning. Since I've only seen 5 minutes of an episode before, and I wasn't really sure it was Scully's show, I plan on recording it and watching the whole messy affair, and seeing how many similarities I can draw between it and his reign of terror on OFF.

[H Thompson]

Oddly a few days ago I saw the Guy that played the dad in The Pitts a really dark and slow film called "Happiness" in which he plays a Dad who's a paedophile. It also featured Jon Lovitz in the opening few minutes.

the thing that struck me about the pitts is that a lot of them were really typical of jokes in the scully in the era but made 10 times worse by the excurciating laugh track. The way my sleep patterns been going latley If I wanted to, I'd probably stay up to watch it.

and Despite Kingas antics, she's actually one of the nicer people on BB this year.

Well I'm sorry but what are else are you supposed to watch during the summer.

[Veryjammy]

FUCK ME! Terrible acting and timing, plot devices and jokes that would have made me cringe on The Simpsons but seem absolutely ridiculous on a live action show (man with 2 heads, pipe through the head, man with lobster claws), a huge number of crappy sitcom lines, crude sex jokes, stealing from The Simpsons' own history. That little boy is intensely irritating, the dad can't act for shit. This makes Kill The Alligator And Run look like Homer the Heretic.

Good to see it's a messed up family affair what with Julie Thacker and Brian Scully also contributing to the horror of it all. It's very clearly a Scully affair, trying so hard to combine realism and surrealism and failing miserably. I have no desire to ever see another episode ever, ever again. The other writers on OFF must have been battling hard to keep the show at the level it was considering the absolute level of crapness achieved here.

And did I just see Seth Macfarlen's name in the credits? God what an embarrassment for all involved. Can you tell I really hated it?

[Head Bee-Guy]

If it's back next week then that means there's only 5 weeks till Behind the Laughter! haven't seen those Woodpeckers of Mistrust for ages (not since the BBC's last episode). I might watch The Cartridge Family to see if they cut anything, but it's one of my most hated episodes so I may not.

[Simpsons Forever!]

Bad news about the DVD release date being pushed back - why can't they just release it worldwide at the same time?

[Butters]

Right, so since my last post is all you've been talking about "Big Brother" and "The Pitts"? I didn't miss any valuble information did I?

[The lesson is never try]

i think this should be renamed simpson + pitts discussion, since it seems to pop up regularly. anyway, not to bothered about btl, never liked it myself.

[Head Bee-Guy]

From tomorrow it's possible that a few of Channel 4's showings will be pre-empted by live test cricket. Although play is scheduled to finish by 6, if there is good light and it's not the final day, they can play on for a while in case of delays later in the match, I can recall Big Brother's Little Brother being postponed because of this at least once last summer.

Channel 4 have the rights to the first test vs Bangladesh and then all 5 against Australia: so that's this weekend and then 5 more weekends between mid-July and mid-September, it should affect Thursdays and Fridays only.
Nope, unless there's some extended coverage, we should be fine.
I don't know why you say "Nope". It's worth people being aware of possible pre-emptions which is why I posted it, I said it wasn't certain to happen. Unless you consider you consider yourself to be a particular expert on umpiring cricket and the lengths of daylight at particular times of the summer, your appearing-to-be-contradictory-but-actually-rephrasing-what-I-said post was totally pointless.
Despite Nameless's insightful post above, tonight's episode will be delayed by the cricket, which won't finish until 6.20 because of rain earlier in the day. It might end up being on at about 8, after the news, though C4's schedule is crowded tonight with all the Big Brother coverage.

[Butters]

Haha. I love looking back at laughing at how important Nameless thinks she is. She's like the girl version of me.

[snrub]

Despite Nameless's insightful post above, tonight's episode will be delayed by the cricket, which won't finish until 6.20 because of rain earlier in the day. It might end up being on at about 8, after the news, though C4's schedule is crowded tonight with all the Big Brother coverage.

I doubt it, new scrubs is on at 8 - they wont shift a new show for a simpsons repeat. Probably shifted to monday instead

[H Thompson]

You know guys just to let you know, I'm going to a BBQ in a few minutes, so I should be gone for a few hours.
I just thought that might be important for you all to know , ok bye everyone group hugs and kisses.

[Butters]

Good to know, Thompson, I would've stayed up all night worrying about your absence.

Well, because of that and the fact that I am an insomniac...

[matt228]

Well, today I was at the Stadium of Light watching my team lose 3-1 to Charlton Athletic, but despite Sunderland playing shite, it was an enjoyable game. The next home game is Tuesday 23 August, at 7:45pm, against Manchester City.

I know it's not relevant, I just thought you might like to know where I was all day rather than posting on here.

Someone just there mentioned "The Cartridge Family" airing - is it airing before September now or something?

P.S. I am currently a season ticket holder for Sunderland AFC that is why I am mentioning the home games I go to...

[Butters]

Sunderland are more like Blunderland when it comes to Football.

Professor Frink, The Cartridge Family will air September 26th 2005. As far as I know it hasn't got an earlier date or anything. Unless I missed it when I was gone, I can't be bothered to swamp back through the inane Pitts/Big Brother discussion, but if someone did mention an earlier airdate for it, I certainly can't find it.

[Greased Scotsman]

Nope, it's still scheduled for Sept 26th only. But don't forget Future-Drama before that on August 28th.

Does anyone now if the Sunday 6:30 repeats will start up again as well when DOWAD airs on Friday?

EDIT: just checked RadioTimes.com, and no, they won't. No Snday repeats for us.

[H Thompson]

Well, today I was at the Stadium of Light watching my team lose 3-1 to Charlton Athletic, but despite Sunderland playing shite, it was an enjoyable game. The next home game is Tuesday 23 August, at 7:45pm, against Manchester City.

...

We don't care.

[amir05]

You know guys just to let you know, I'm going to a BBQ in a few minutes, so I should be gone for a few hours.
I just thought that might be important for you all to know , ok bye everyone group hugs and kisses.

We don't care.

[Drunk Barney]

We don't care.

We don't care that you don't care. :D

Sliding back on topic, I will be watching Day of D & W for the first time next Friday. What do you lot give it?

[amir05]

Did you actually read the post before mine?

anyway,i thought that days of W and D was really good,did you like it drunk barney as it was the last appearance of you?

B+

[Drunk Barney]

Yes I did amir05 I was joking, just like you :D

I've never seen that episode, that's why I'm asking :)

[H Thompson]

We don't care.
That was a joke you stupid twat. You'd think a simpsons fan would have sense of irony.

[matt228]

OK then H_T, and I suppose we all cared about your BBQ?

[H Thompson]

Read my post above you.
Idiot.

[Greased Scotsman]

All of you, shut up, or you'll get this topic locked. Just calm down, guys.

[amir05]

That was a joke you stupid twat. You'd think a simpsons fan would have sense of irony.

I was making a joke aswell :D

[Butters]

Unsubscribed.

[Greased Scotsman]

I agree. Let's have this topic locked and start up a new one when something interesting actually happens (e.g. Cartridge Family, S6 and S13 etc.)

[H Thompson]

I was making a joke aswell :D
No you weren't
and if you were you need to do something to clarify that your joking, otherwise it doesn't come across.

I did this by refering to everyone as "Guys" and "Group Hugs and Kisses"

But Ok that's everything clarified now. Let's move on by saying "I wonder if this episode which is repeating on Channel 4 for the 4th time, which we all have on DVD anyway, will have the line about such and such cut out"

[Drunk Barney]

Jeeze, Thompson, you've been a bit grumpy lately:(

[4 Alarm Chilli]

Lets all forget our troubles with a nice bowl of Strawberry Ice Cream.

[Head Bee-Guy]

I agree. Let's have this topic locked and start up a new one when something interesting actually happens (e.g. Cartridge Family, S6 and S13 etc.)
Or, people could learn to control themselves rather than needing to be restrained from pointless posting.

Tomorrow's episode is also at risk from the cricket coverage, the rain on Saturday means an extra half hour has been added to tomorrow's play. It's the last day of the match, so it's over as soon as it's over, basically, but the timetabled finish is 6 and the absolute latest finish is, I believe, 6.30. Nameless can correct me if I'm wrong.

[Maggie J Simpson]

www.channel4sales.com (formally in4mer) lists Fri 26th August's ep as "Kill The Alligator And Run". Then Fri September 2nd says "Last Tap Dance In Springfield", but the show is on for an hour, so "It's A Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad Marge" will probably air along with it too.

[matt228]

Jeeze, Thompson, you've been a bit grumpy lately:(
Agreed.

[Butters]

Oh, for christ's sake. You're both morons. He was complaining because the other guy didn't get his joke and then tried to say he did afterwards.

[amir05]

you're talking about me are'nt you? well i'm sorry i even tried to make a joke,you guys can get back on topic.

[Greased Scotsman]

Back on topic, according to the Sky TV guide, C4 are gonna keep the episodes as they were originally planned, so no Lisa's Pony or Saturdays of Thunder (because of the cricket overrunning). Tomorrow's episode is still Flaming Moe's.

[Wezzo]

Just to let you know, in case you were wondering, I submitted a UK update on Sunday night, I'm just awaiting Jouni's upload. Also, according to Mark Hemus, C4 have confirmed that both S6 and S13 will definitely air by the end of the year.

[simplysimpsons]

Great news, Wezzo :)

What's not great is C4's desicion to show a double-bill of that crappy show Hollyoaks instead of OFF today. Why the hell couldn't they follow the shedules like they're supposed to? It's bad enough with running cricket, which is less entertaining than watching wet paint, instead of OFF. :(

I'm beginning to dislike C4's treatment of the show more every day.

[Leon Kompowsky]

C4 screws up every good show they ever get. The sopranos is never properly advertised and has been shoved around the schedules every different season. compare the hype for 'desperate housewives' or 'lost' to the sopranos and curb your enthusiasm. Now I like all these shows but the superior ones (not just my opinion) get treated like dirt. Lets not even mention big brother which eats up most of the summer schedules on two channels every year.
Have to disagree on the cricket though, I'm not a huge fan but the ashes have been superb so far

[Greased Scotsman]

Well it looks like C4 are treating the show as the Friends replacement (daily 6pm slot, primetime Friday), and their treatment of that was pretty top notch. Hope this is a one-off.

[Leon Kompowsky]

You're right about friends but I'm not that optimistic that they'll treat it as well as that. Especially as they dont have the new episodes as they did with friends towards the end

[snrub]

Well, to be honest new programming is always going to go ahead of a repeat. Both Hollyoaks and simpsons are ratings winners for C4, but Simpsons can be shown in any order at any time where as Hollyoaks is a soap that needs to be shown in order -so with it missing an ep yesterday it needed the extra half hour to catch up.

I'm with C4 on this no-brainer

[Greased Scotsman]

SNPP UK listings update is up.

Thanks Wezzo!

[Leon Kompowsky]

Well, to be honest new programming is always going to go ahead of a repeat. Both Hollyoaks and simpsons are ratings winners for C4, but Simpsons can be shown in any order at any time where as Hollyoaks is a soap that needs to be shown in order -so with it missing an ep yesterday it needed the extra half hour to catch up.

I'm with C4 on this no-brainer

Yeah, I agree with you on that particular one. Its no big deal to me to miss flaming moes. I have it on tape, DVD and I've seen it countless times anyway.
My C4 beef is with the stuff I mentioned earlier which isnt even simpsons related anyhoo

[matt228]

The Ashes is only on once every two (or is it three?) years, so Channel 4 will be giving it priority over shows that are repeated every weekday throughout the year, such as The Simpsons. The Ashes 4th Test is from 25-29 August and the 5th and final test at the start of September, so normal scheduling should return in September.

What I don't agree with is Channel 4 replacing rating-grabbing shows such as Hollyoaks and The Simpsons with cricket, when they could just as easily re-arrange those 2 shows to later times, while cricket is on, and chuck out those horrid makeover shows like How Clean Is Your House? and 10 Years Younger.

[Butters]

"Ten Years Younger"? Isn't that a song by Led Zeppelin? :shifty:

[Head Bee-Guy]

The cricket was never going to be a definite postponement, it only interefered this time because of rain, and it may not do again. I'm 100% in favour of showing the cricket, my enthusiasm for seeing season 3 on TV could hardly be lower when it's already been on twice in the last 8 months and I have it on DVD: I would have liked to have seen 6 ahead of the DVD being released, it'll probably be on just as it's released now.

[H Thompson]

Yeah It's probably what they'll do and I really can't understand it as it's harmful to DVD sales and the channels own viewing figures. Some people won't watch because they have the DVD and some people won't buy the DVD because they can watch it on T.V, how can they not realise they both lose.

But there's no need to worry about the Simpsons treatment. As long as in a few months time they start showing the season 13 episodes and onwards before 12:00am then I'll be happy.

[4 Alarm Chilli]

Simpsons will be shown at 9.00 pm channel 4 again. I think they're re-launching it with season 12 episodes.

[Greased Scotsman]

James, please read previous posts before you type your own. We've been talking about the 9pm return for a few days now.

[Terrier Williger]

The Ashes is only on once every two (or is it three?) years, so Channel 4 will be giving it priority over shows that are repeated every weekday throughout the year, such as The Simpsons. The Ashes 4th Test is from 25-29 August and the 5th and final test at the start of September, so normal scheduling should return in September.
Believe it or not it's been 4 years since the Aussies were last here, although C4 have shown England's summer Test Series for the last 7 years. On Monday the cricket received it's highest ever viewing figures of 7.7 million - not a bad Channel 4 audience.
I don't think it's been too bad this year for disrupting the evening tv schedule, play starts half an hour earlier nowadays and apart from bad weather or a match winning situation, play has to finish at 6:00 pm. Previously, play continued until the days allocated overs had been bowled out, or for bad light - whichever came first. This used to result in regular finishes after 7:00 pm. I like cricket, so I'm not too bothered about missing the Simpsons which I already have on tape or can watch on Sky, but I must admit it's great to see the cricket presenters hurrying up at the end of the days play to get off air in time for OFF ! I also agree, that because Hollyoaks is popular and a continuing series, it should get priority over OFF, but maybe OFF should have priority over some of the other crap they show.
Anyway, for people who don't like cricket they'll be glad to know this is the last year for live cricket on 4, where it goes over to Sky Sports from 2006 to 2009. The 5th and final test is scheduled for 8th to 12th September.

[matt228]

Anyway, for people who don't like cricket they'll be glad to know this is the last year for live cricket on 4, where it goes over to Sky Sports from 2006 to 2009.
Thanks for that bit of information, I didn't know that - and I'm happy to hear it. It's just a shame for cricket fans, and for Channel 4 - other than French Football at about 1am, what sports do they show when cricket's gone?

[Terrier Williger]

^Chuffin' Horse Racing :uhh:

[david195]

Sky Programme Information has announced their October schedules. October will see the remaining four episodes of Season 16 air on Sky One in the following order:

Sunday 9th October 6.30 pm A Star Is Torn
Sunday 16th October 6.30 pm The Father, The Son And The Holy Guest Star
Sunday 23rd October 6.30 pm Thank God It's Doomsday
Sunday 30th October 6.30 pm The Heartbroke Kid

[Jag-omatic]

Can't wait until season 17 which will be ages before it comes on in England but still


Cletus:Brandeene i think i dangbusted ma stink-bomb!

[Greased Scotsman]

Another October marathon...

Hopefully this means we'll get Bonfire of the Manatees on Nov 6th.

[Simpsons Forever!]

Why have they delayed the end of the season until October again? With S17 starting in September, what's the point? Oh well, at least there should be no long gap between seasons.

[snrub]

Yeah, just a nice long gap in the middle of seasons instead!

[Rich Uncle Skeleton]

You know you're just gonna download the episodes as soon as they've aired in the U.S. ;)

Thanks for that bit of information, I didn't know that - and I'm happy to hear it. It's just a shame for cricket fans, and for Channel 4 - other than French Football at about 1am, what sports do they show when cricket's gone?
They show British Superbikes and World Superbikes, but as with a lot of stuff, only at ridiculous times of the night :angry:

[Greased Scotsman]

I'd forgotten how funny Days of Wine and D'ohses was. A-

Probably the last good S11 episode.

[Nameless]

just to let you all know, we're probably not going to get any more 9pm double-bills. earliest we could hope for is mid-s13. latest is never.

also, i'm going to ring up the c4 help service again tomorrow at 1pm. anyone got any questions about the show they want answered?

[snrub]

Yeah, C4 will probably concentrate on other comedy for the moment, instead of showing double simpsons - IMO it's pretty lazy programming for a terrestrial channel on Friday night Prime Time

[Simpsons Forever!]

just to let you all know, we're probably not going to get any more 9pm double-bills. earliest we could hope for is mid-s13. latest is never.

also, i'm going to ring up the c4 help service again tomorrow at 1pm. anyone got any questions about the show they want answered?

Yeah - when are they showing S13?

[Greased Scotsman]

Yeah, C4 will probably concentrate on other comedy for the moment, instead of showing double simpsons - IMO it's pretty lazy programming for a terrestrial channel on Friday night Prime Time

And what alternatives do you suggest? Meet The Magoons? 18 Stone of Idiot? Or (heaven forbid) Big Brother 7? Or maybe another crap show that doesn't even have 1% of the comedy of even the worst episodes of the Simpsons.

It may be lazy, but it's the only good thing they HAVE on Friday primetime, now that 8 Out Of 10 Cats is finished.

[Nameless]

OK, answers to a few questions;

- C4 will start advertising Simpsons again when S13 starts.
- Offensive episodes like the NYC one will be edited by C4 before they are shown.
- C4 will NOT start repeating the new S13 episodes Sundays at 6pm, that was just for S12.
- It has not been confirmed that C4 will be screening S13&6 before the end of the year, but it's very likely.
- They can't confirm wether there will be any more Friday night double-bills, it's about 50-50
- "Everybody Loves Raymond" season 9 will begin tomorrow, 8am.
- They replaced "King of Queens" on mornings with "Will and Grace" as they came to the end of the series of "KoQ".

[Butters]

- "Everybody Loves Raymond" season 9 will begin tomorrow, 8am.
- They replaced "King of Queens" on mornings with "Will and Grace" as they came to the end of the series of "KoQ".
well, those are my questions.

[H Thompson]

OK, answers to a few questions;


- "Everybody Loves Raymond" season 9 will begin tomorrow, 8am.
-".

What radio station?

[Nameless]

on channel 4. which is not a radio station.

[H Thompson]

Ok and when is it on.

Maybe I should just stop this now and point out to those that didn't get it that I was refrencing don't fear the roofer.

[simplysimpsons]

From MediaGuardian (http://media.guardian.co.uk), some news about OFF's ratings on C4:

Thursday:
The Simpsons proved disappointing for Channel 4 at 6pm, pulling in just 1.5 million viewers.

The expensive import was 300,000 behind Home and Away on Five and just 200,000 ahead of Flog It! On BBC2.

And friday:
Tom Cruise's televisual nemesis, Balls of Steel, finally hit screens on Friday night with solid, if unspectacular, viewing figures of 1.4 million.

The Channel 4 hidden camera show hit the headlines when the Hollywood actor reacted with predictable anger to being soaked with a water pistol at a movie premiere.

Despite its tough midsummer debut slot it still managed to make a splash with 1.4 million viewers.

Presumably Cruise wasn't among the audience for the new six-part prank series - which was one of the fillings in C4's new Friday night comedy club sandwich.

Channel 4 kicked off with a repeat of The Simpsons at 9pm. That drew 1.6 million but was soundly beaten by all the other terrestrial channels, including BBC2's surprise summer hit, Coast.

The joint BBC and Open University exploration of Britain's coastline drew an impressive 4 million, according to unofficial overnights.

Channel 4 followed up The Simpsons with a new sitcom, Meet the Magoons. The comedy set in a Glasgow curry house was up against the same tough competition, including Five's CSI: the Best Ever.

Meet the Magoons began with 1.4 million, against CSI's 1.7 million.

At 10pm, Channel 4 repeated Peter Kay's spin-off from Phoenix Nights, Max and Paddy's Road to Nowhere. It pulled an audience of 1.6 million, beaten by all the other terrestrials, including Five's horror film Pet Sematary.

The comedy extravaganza rounded off at 11.20pm with a new series of animated comedy, Bromwell High - watched by 500,000 viewers.

Overall, understandably, Channel 4's evening was down on last Friday's ratings, which were bolstered by the final of Big Brother.

But, encouragingly for the channel, figures are up slightly year-on-year.

Between 9 and 11pm on the equivalent Friday in 2004, the channel averaged around 1.4 million. Last Friday it was 1.5 million.

[Nameless]

well, i suppose it's to be expected if people have had the chance to see them before twice. it'll go up when s13 starts.

[Veryjammy]

I'm surprised that in the 6pm slot it's getting nearly half of what it did on the BBC, who also repeated them ad nauseum. Although ratings are always down in Summer. It hasn't performed well in the 9pm slot at all though, before it was taken off for Big Brother it was still only getting around the 1.5 million mark. I find it rather odd.

Also Sky scheduling are idiots, I'm fed-up with waiting for new episodes, I've just decided to download them instead, at least that way I get them uncut as well (the Wanker scene in The Father,The Son, And The Holy Guest Star is bound to be edited out)

[simplysimpsons]

Also, technically, 1.6 million is not too bad at all especially for C4. And yeah, S13 will be a huge boost especially if C4 choose to publicise it well. The thing I was surprised at was the 6pm ratings - last time I checked, these were practically 3 million!

(EDIT: Yeah, agreed with Veryjammy too - maybe it is just because it's summer, but OFF still got a lot more on BBC2. Maybe everyone's fed up with the Pizza Hut ads!)

[H Thompson]

I rember reading that the 6pm repeats were getting better ratings then the 9pm new episodes. Probably a combination of summer and overkill, they made a huge mistake not showing Season 6 after the last airing of season 5.
Even BBC2 never repeated the same 4 series 4 times in a row.

[Nameless]

yeah, they wanted to air it in time for the dvd, but then the dvd got held back and it was too late by then.

also: s13 should begin 23 sep at 9pm and s6 7 nov at 6pm. judging by my scheduling, anyway

[H Thompson]

Why? last year it started 5th November, why would they do it any earlier this time.

[Nameless]

because they own the rights to. butters' source which is better than me ringing up the c4 helpline says it should air after the last s11 episodes, too.

[snrub]

And what alternatives do you suggest?

Scrubs, Will & Grace, Peep Show, Distraction, Green Wing, Black Books, Nathan Barley and Darren Brown to name only a few. I'd rather see new programming rather than cheap double repeats of OFF (no matter how much I love them) in a prime friday night slot.

You may not feel they have anything good on a Friday night, but shoving a load of Simpsons repeats in isn't going to solve anything. They need to try stuff out, and if you don't like it then watch your dvds, or check out one of the 4 other terrestrial channels or the hundreds on sky! :)

[Rich Uncle Skeleton]

- "Everybody Loves Raymond" season 9 will begin tomorrow, 8am.
WTF? How did that show get to a ninth Season? I watched a whole episode the other day, it was terrible! Oh wait a sec... <remembers the latest Simpsons episodes> never mind. ;)

[Nameless]

c4 just showed an advert this morning before futurama advertising the new friday night schedule starting tonight, including OFF (although, strangely, using season 5 clips). expect to see the frequency of these quadruple when s13 starts.

[Leon Kompowsky]

Anyone else quite looking forward to KTAAR tonight? I havnt seen it in years and can hardly wait to see one of the perennial 'worst episode ever' candidates again.
The simpsons version of car-crash TV

[Drunk Barney]

I've never seen it! so yeah.

[amir05]

i'm looking forward to it, coz i haven't seen it in ages and i wanna know whats so bad about it.

[Nameless]

seen it once on bbc and it was a sorry sight. eh, i'll watch and tape it anyway. for completion only.

[Simpsons Forever!]

I've only seen it once, so yeah, I'll probably watch it again.

[Veryjammy]

Heh, I've only seen it once and from what I can remember I thought it was bad, but not awful, about a D+. But I'm ready to be proved wrong

[snrub]

I think I've only seen that ep once, so I'll probably tape it and watch it later

[4 Alarm Chilli]

Tonight it's Kill The Alligator And Run, another chance to re-live the worst episode ever.

[Gibbles]

Tonight it's Kill The Alligator And Run, another chance to re-live the worst episode ever.

NOOOOO

Oh great now channel 4 is tainted by evil...more so

I really wish all copies of this episode would be destroyed

[4 Alarm Chilli]

Next week another above average season 11 episode. Last Tap Dance In Springfield, with one of my favourit sub-plots of all time. Hopefully they'll continue into season 13, and not repeat season 12.

[Veryjammy]

Worse than I remembered, particularly since the first time I saw it I hadn't yet seen the results of the Jean era so I was being kind to it. Really bloody awful, redeemed only by some rather good direction.

[Leon Kompowsky]

Wasnt that bad. Better than I remembered, there were a few funny lines and the plot was OK up until the end of spring break. It really fell apart after that with some ridiculous situations and a cop-out ending. Still, I'd rather watch that again than pranksta rap C

[Dorkus Malorkus]

i saw it properly for the first time. C grade from me. had some good gags, but some very stupid bits...

[Greased Scotsman]

I hadn't seen this for a while, but I don't see why people think it's the worst episode ever. I couldn't really find anything wrong with it, and it did have some very funny bits.

A controversial B+ from me.

I'll probably like Last Tap Dance In Springfield less than this.

[Simpsons Forever!]

It wasn't as bad as I remembered - apart from the train bit - so I give it: C-

[matt228]

A controversial B+ from me.
Finally, someone agrees with me on a grade for an episode. B+

[Rich Uncle Skeleton]

Yeah, there are worse episodes that Kill The Alligator And Run, people! (I'm not saying it's good, btw, but there are a lot of worse episodes.)

[Butters]

folks, i think that the very foundations holding the british civilization have collapsed.

[Greased Scotsman]

folks, i think that the very foundations holding the british civilization have collapsed.
Just wait until I see Maximum Homerdrive again. You'll have a bloody heart attack.

[Rich Uncle Skeleton]

Were there new cuts in "Homer Vs. The 18th Amendment" last night? 'The Britsons' only lists "I'm the prime minister of Ireland", but I'm sure this was cut:

Banner: Rex Banner doesn't take bribes!
Fat Tony: Okay. We'll stick to smuggling heroin.
Banner: See that you do.

[matt228]

Just wait until I see Maximum Homerdrive again. You'll have a bloody heart attack.
You like Maximum Homerdrive? I haven't seen it...
It won't be on for a while because it's season 10 and I don't know if anyone has the rights to S10.

[Butters]

Were there new cuts in "Homer Vs. The 18th Amendment" last night? 'The Britsons' only lists "I'm the prime minister of Ireland", but I'm sure this was cut:

Banner: Rex Banner doesn't take bribes!
Fat Tony: Okay. We'll stick to smuggling heroin.
Banner: See that you do.
... thanks, man!

Was the British Fishshop being blown up and Wiggum saying that all the founder fathers, astronauts and world leaders were even drunk or on the cocaine also cut?

One of these days I am going to have to sit down and watch OFF.

[Drunk Barney]

Here's my review, for people that don't seem to go in The Voting Booth (ScottV, Rowdy etc). Sorry if it's a bit long.

I saw this for the first time.

Starting with the first act. A kinda fun start but at the same time whacky and odd. The Flanders and his wife thing was nasty of Homer and not needed. Up to the bed scene (bar that was good). I thought the whole Mag scene worked well as we know Homer loves little mags and once he gets into them he can't stop ( Mr. Lisa Goes to Washington ). But the scene with Homer thinking he was going to die at 42 was a bit off. Homer thinking that was kinda believable, but Marge believing it was just stupid. Then it just got silly. The whole mental hospital and Homer thing was just way OTT. But overall it was a bumpy but kinda enjoyable first act and certainly not boring. The 2nd act where they arrive in Floridia is where it goes down hill a bit. Homer pushing over his car??. Then well what happens after that, the plot goes all over the place. Aligators waving to humans, Homer being a jerk etc. Oh and one of the worst scenes being Homer getting locked up in bed. Though despite this there were some good jokes thrown in. The third act is a bit more fun. The getting away thing was all very stupid, but there were a lot of good jokes, some of the whipping scenes, and the hat flipping back on. The whole train scene was unrealstic and Homer was out of character. Though I actually really enjoyed the job scene with the old lady, " I like that! " was great. Of course at the same time it was stupid, but meh. And why didn't they try and get out of the caravan when the cops came?. Anyway the whole Captain Jack being alive thing was undevolped and just silly. The ending was mixed. It was quite funny, but I hated the idea of them being banned from all those states. Overall this isn't terrible episode but it's rather poor. Jokes are mixed. but there are A LOT of terrible ones as well as great ones. Characterizations are terrible and the plot is well...just ridicously out of place. Though one thing about this episode is...it isn't boring!. Doesn't deserve these F and even D- comments IMO. Overall grade about a C

[4 Alarm Chilli]

So how about "Last Tap Dance In Springfield"? I'm quite looking forward to seeing this. Some good jokes.

[Rich Uncle Skeleton]

Here's my review, for people that don't seem to go in The Voting Booth (ScottV, Rowdy etc). Sorry if it's a bit long.
Oh. I didn't realize you guys reviewed all the episodes there. Anyway since I didn't post when DoWaD aired, it was a very good episode, perhaps better than I remember it.

... thanks, man!

Was the British Fishshop being blown up and Wiggum saying that all the founder fathers, astronauts and world leaders were even drunk or on the cocaine also cut?

One of these days I am going to have to sit down and watch OFF.
I don't remember those so they may have been cut. Did anyone else notice these?

[Drunk Barney]

Yeah, The Voting Booth seems to of picked up a lot over the last few months. If you ask me at times it's better than TGD. Should take a look! :D

[Nameless]

when s13 starts we might as well just review the episodes in here instead of threads in the voting booth, as there's already threads for that in the r&r archive.

[Simpsons Forever!]

Yeah, The Voting Booth seems to of picked up a lot over the last few months. If you ask me at times it's better than TGD. Should take a look! :D

It'll probably drop off a bit once the new season starts, though, as there'll be more to discuss.

[Drunk Barney]

Nameless- you can't post in them in the S13,14+even 15 (I think) threads. So why not start a new one to allow people to express there opinion that weren't around (like most weren't)

[Gibbles]

Yeah, there are worse episodes that Kill The Alligator And Run, people! (I'm not saying it's good, btw, but there are a lot of worse episodes.)

NEVER

*puts hands on ears and sings*

[4 Alarm Chilli]

Yeah, there are worse episodes that Kill The Alligator And Run, people! (I'm not saying it's good, btw, but there are a lot of worse episodes.)


Such as Alone Again Natura-Diddly.

[Nameless]

Nameless- you can't post in them in the S13,14+even 15 (I think) threads. So why not start a new one to allow people to express there opinion that weren't around (like most weren't)

the r&r archive is to 'stop r&r threads for these threads being made again'. so i don't see why we should make r&r threads for them again when we shouldn't.

[Drunk Barney]

No not really. Perhaps for the ones you can reply to, but the ones you can't is just to see peoples opinions at the time.

[Rich Uncle Skeleton]

I think it would be better to review episodes here. From the look of the latest R&R threads in the Judging Booth, not many people post in them anyway.

[Gibbles]

Such as Alone Again Natura-Diddly.

Still not as bad

[Drunk Barney]

Well Kill the Aligator and Run currently has 24 replies, I consider that quite a lot considering it was only started Friday night. Other threads such as The Itchy and Scratchy and the Poochie show has 28 and has some great discussion. Days of D'oh and W has just 13 but even that's not bad. Plus what's the point of posting a huge review if only a few people will read it. (in here).

Why not post it in TVB. More people read it, more discussion+reviews and you can have a poll!

[Veryjammy]

Well for Season 13 and 14 episodes I see no harm in starting a new thread in The Voting Booth seeing as the ones archived are locked. Obviously with Season 16 episodes such as Future-Drama, airing tonight, then we can bump the R&R thread for that.

[Butters]

oh, yeah, like half an hour too late but watch out for the visual gag in future drama where in the future it turns out that professor frink hung himself.

[snrub]

Yeah, that was still in there - if you're looking for potential cuts.

[Simpsons Forever!]

Future-Drama tonight was pretty good - MUCH better than Bart To The Future. I liked the different future ideas, except the underwater house, that was a bit too far-fetched. All the character changes were really well done, and even though I usually don't like flash-back/forward episodes, I enjoyed this one. A-

[4 Alarm Chilli]

The gag with Milhouse was a bit far fetched, but it ranks 2nd in the Future episodes I've seen. (1st Lisa's Wedding)

[Dorkus Malorkus]

really no where near as good as 'Lisa's Wedding'. It was perfectly watchable.

[Simpsons Forever!]

Now I remember, there was a gag I really hated - the naked Otto jumping off the cliff. That was dreadful and pointless.

[Drunk Barney]

I remember watching that and thinking " Oh please don't jump off ". And he did :(

I forgot to re-watch it last night, but if anyone doesn't know by grade is B-/B

[4 Alarm Chilli]

I love the Martin gag. Classic! And Teenage Ralph still talks like an 8 year old, and can only just use the potty?

[Simpsons Forever!]

How come there were no Simpsons episodes on Sky today? It may be the all star cup, but they've never taken Simpsons off the schedule for anything before and it's a bank holiday!

[Gibbles]

How come there were no Simpsons episodes on Sky today? It may be the all star cup, but they've never taken Simpsons off the schedule for anything before and it's a bank holiday!

No simpsons on sky one? :boggled:

Jesus

[H Thompson]

The Otto Gag was one of the few decent things pussies. It wasn't funny that he was randomly naked but the rest of the gag made up for it.

Honestly what is it with people here that can't handle anything the slightest bit dark. Well Veryjammy will probably agree with me.

[4 Alarm Chilli]

Who watched "Dog Of Death" today on 4?

[729]

the all star cup What a load of bollocks that is by the way.

[Greased Scotsman]

I love the Martin gag. Classic! And Teenage Ralph still talks like an 8 year old, and can only just use the potty?

Why not? In Little Girl In The Big Ten and I'm Spelling As Fast As I Can, he wets his pants. He may not be toilet trained when he's ten.

[4 Alarm Chilli]

I didn't think the potty gag was stupid, just a bit silly.

[Mario]

Future Drama: B

Better than Bart to the Future. Bender's cameo was funny. I didn't like Otto "gliding" off a cliff naked. Everything else was good.

EDIT: Due to my horrendous memory, I have forgotten half of the episode, I need to watch it again. When's it gonna be aired again?

[Butters]

haha. i'm enjoying reading the hate for the otto joke.

if i recall, someone said in the r/r thread that it was supposed to be making fun of a recent headline where a drunk taxi driver did something or other similar. it wasn't just some inane joke to have a character strip nude and commit suicide.

[H Thompson]

But the funniness came from the fact that you thought suddenly he wasn't really high but then in fact he was after all, That for me is a classic Simpsons screwing with your expectations joke not the greatest example of it but still good. and we don't know if he died anyway so calm down.

[Drunk Barney]

Normally when you jump off a cliff you die. Or will it a My Mother the Carjacker type thing!