UK: General Simpsons Chat

[Blythy]

I'm pretty sure he doesn't own The Sun. He does own the Daily Star and the Daily Express though.
Murdoch owns the majority of news international, the company that produces the Sun and the times.

the daily star and the daily express have nothing to do with murdoch (daily star couldn't as its in direct competition with the sun)

[matt228]

Thanks Blythy. I just found that out :D

Who's exited about the official season 16 premiere, which airs Sunday 21st November at 6:30pm on Sky One, All's Fair in Oven War? Also exited about Sleeping With the Enemy, airing Sunday 28th November at 6:30pm on Sky One. Probably most exited about Treehouse of Horror XV, which is still TBC.

[Head Bee-Guy]

The Express and Star are owned by newspaper and porn magazine proprietor Richard "Dirty" Desmond.

It's a shame the "episodes a week behind the US" trend is only lasting for 2 weeks before this A-Z thing: like someone said regarding those themed nights over the summer, most people would rather see "The Simpsons do something you've never seen before" rather than "go on a load of vacations (repeat)" or "get some wacky jobs (repeat).

[Butters]

Hmm... saw All's Fair In Oven War last night, chance is Sky are going to cut the following lines:

Bart: I could make my treehouse look like this. Then we could have orgies... whatever, they're.

Ned: My Roddy told a story about an octopuss and a set of bagpipes and the punch-line informs us they fornicated.
Wiggum: Ralphie wants to go on a pill!
Homer: Stupid Bart... heh, an Octopuss getting it on with some bagpipes. (laughs)

Chance is the "orgies" one might survive, I can't see the "fornicate" one airing intact. Shame. :(

[david195]

Originally posted by Head Bee-Guy
It's a shame the "episodes a week behind the US" trend is only lasting for 2 weeks before this A-Z thing

Sky haven't announced yet whether they're showing any new episodes in December. The 6.30 pm Sunday slots for the 5th, 12th and 19th December are still to be announced so it's possible that there could be new episodes on these days. I'm remaing optimistic but I'm getting impatient with Sky. The only new episode Sky can show on the 5th is 'Treehouse of Horror XV'. Why they can't just announce whether they're going to show this or a repeat I don't know but it's getting annoying. New episodes could follow on the 12th and 19th December, one week after being shown in the States. Sky obviously hasn't scheduled these yet because they don't have the information but it would be nice to know about the 5th December.

[matt228]

I'm assuming that Sky will air 2 new episodes in December. Probably on the 12th and the 19th or something.

[Butters]

I'm guessing they'll air one new episode. Like they did in 2003 and 2002. I just can't see Sky keeping up with FOX, I've had hopes of them doing it before, but they never seem to.

And yes, this is Cosmic Fool's new name! All Hail Butters!

[simplysimpsons]

I decided to watch Dead Putting Society on Channel 4 today at 6pm, and was pleasantly surprised :D
I usually rate the episode a C-, but I think I'm changing it to a B-. No higher than B- because of Rod Flanders having such an annoying voice - it's kinda like Ralph Wiggum's but it's much more annoying, and I can't do very good impressions of Rod, but I rule the Ralph Wiggum impressions - I know no people who can out-do me :D


B- for Dead Putting Society!? You gotta be kidding! So many funny moments, including one of the best gags in the entire series (Ned's letter to Homer with them all laughing- pure gold!) Brilliant characterisations too. Easily A material (my grade A++)

Everyone remember to watch/tape Lisa the Tree Hugger on Friday at 9pm (on Channel 4) - and also remember to watch BBC Children in Need 2004 if you're taping The Simpsons, or tape BBC Children in Need 2004 if you're just watching The Simpsons. Personally I'll watch and tape The Simpsons and my mum will watch parts/tape parts of BBC Chidren in Need 2004!
Nah...Call me an old skinflint but I don't think I can put up with newsreaders acting keray-zay another year or some washed up pop band miming to several washed up songs. Not forgetting those OTT ads. My TV and VCR will be firmly on C4 - on one of Season 12's best episodes!

I'm guessing they'll air one new episode. Like they did in 2003 and 2002. I just can't see Sky keeping up with FOX, I've had hopes of them doing it before, but they never seem to.
Yep. I'm pretty certain Sky will want to spread out the Simpsons' new episodes throughout the year till the next season starts with 1 episode in december, like they have been - just hope there won't be those extra long gaps between new episodes again!

[matt228]

Nah...Call me an old skinflint but I don't think I can put up with newsreaders acting keray-zay another year or some washed up pop band miming to several washed up songs. Not forgetting those OTT ads. My TV and VCR will be firmly on C4 - on one of Season 12's best episodes!


Yep. I'm pretty certain Sky will want to spread out the Simpsons' new episodes throughout the year till the next season starts with 1 episode in december, like they have been - just hope there won't be those extra long gaps between new episodes again!
Like I said. I'm watching and taping The Simpsons since Lisa the Tree Hugger is one of S12's best. Not THE best. One of.

Extra long gaps suck.

[Butters]

Would anyone actually be bothered if Sky were a week behind FOX and they had to suffer from May-November without new episodes?

[H Thompson]

They might as well do that now, we had such a long midseason gap and often having a month between episodes that the idea of spreading episodes over a year is meaningless, we went about 3 months without an episode so why not show them all in one go.
But I'd be happiest with an episode every 2 weeks and then an 8 week gap until the new series, what is so hard about that system.

[matt228]

METHOD 1: 1 week behind Fox
PROS: We'd be only one week behind Fox, meaning there'd be no need to download, to go the USA or complain!
CONS: Huge gap from the middle of May to the beginning of November

METHOD 2: 2 per month, November to September
PROS: They'd be evenly spread out through the year, meaning we'd never be short of new episodes.
CONS: They'd be evenly spread out through the year, meaning we'd grow far behind Fox.

METHOD 3: 1-2 per month from November to June, 1 in September, then nine in October and November (S15 - not counting the episodes from S16 in November)
PROS: There are loads of new episodes in 2 months!
CONS: There are loads of new episodes in 2 months. The gap is terrible.

METHOD 4: 2 per month, November to September
I know what you're thinking! Method 2! But NO! Read on!
We write a letter to Fox persuading them to spread the episodes out like in Method 2.

[Rich Uncle Skeleton]

I don't care what method they use. As long as I have a fast internet connection, I'll download episodes the day after they air in the US.

Unless they choose METHOD 5:
Show episodes the same time as Fox (Sunday nights) - that way, we get them first :D

[matt228]

I'm getting Broadband very soon, and when I do, I'm getting DivX so I can get the complete seasons downloaded (rather than single episodes), they are better quality that way.
The order I'll get them: S13, S9, S15, S14, S10, S8, S7, S6
I won't get S1-S5 since they're on DVD (S5 in February) and I won't get S12 until last cos I'm taping it on C4.

[George Cauldron]

Would anyone actually be bothered if Sky were a week behind FOX and they had to suffer from May-November without new episodes?

Yep, I'd be bothered. Method two is the way to go. Nice and consistent spacing between new episodes. If my dream of being a TV scheduler every becomes a reality, that's how I'd do it.

[david195]

Sky have confirmed (for now) that 'Treehouse of Horror XV' premieres on Sky 1 on Sunday 9th January at 6.30 pm. This means there's definitely no new episode on Sunday 5th December. Sunday 12th and Sunday 19th are still to be confirmed. Here's the press release from their website:

New Episode

THE SIMPSONS – Treehouse Of Horror XV

Want to see all-new episodes of The Simpsons? Then tune in to Sky One, the only UK channel premiering the very latest instalments of the world’s greatest animation.

Author Thomas Pynchon and actor James Caan (Las Vegas) were the first of many guest stars to appear in the sixteenth series. Also destined for Simpsons-style makeovers this year are Sex & The City siren Kim Cattrall and hip-hop star 50 Cent, as well as returning favourites Stephen Hawking and Eric Idle. And as if that wasn’t enough, Matt Groening has confirmed that plans are afoot to write Ricky Gervais into the show.

With this much going on, plus spanking-new mishaps and misdemeanours from the Simpsons clan, you’d be Barny to miss it.

On Sunday 9 January, Treehouse Of Horror XV premieres on Sky One. In The Ned Zone - the first of the four chilling tales - Ned Flanders takes a knock to the head and finds he can foretell people's deaths. He's shocked to see himself murdering one of his neighbours… Then, in Four Beheadings And A Funeral, we head to Victorian London, where deerstalkered Detective Eliza Simpson and her sidekick Dr Bartley are trying to catch serial killer The Muttonchop Murderer. Finally, there's In The Belly Of The Boss, where Maggie is shrunk inside a vitamin pill and swallowed by Mr Burns. The lucky girl gets to explore his body, in a cheeky nod to 1960s classic Fantastic Voyage. Bring it on…

Sunday 9 January 18.30 Sky One

[Butters]

^
9th of January? Jesus fuck. That could mean like a whole month without new episodes... I told you all not to get your hopes up about Sky following FOX a week later... I was right! There's something I never thought I'd say. Still, I hope they confirm that they're saving the THOH to last (of the hold-overs) to air...

[H Thompson]

I didn't expect they would stay a week behind Fox it would be naive to think they would.
By the way Butters how did you get your name changed.

[Butters]

By the way Butters how did you get your name changed.
PMed an admin.

[Head Bee-Guy]

I'd rather they showed them a week behind Fox, if the Amercians can handle a gap I don't see why we can't....if you need them spread out to save your sanity, why not video them when they're on, and then watch them as (in)frequently as you want.

[silentmike]

I gave up watching them on sky a while ago, month after month with no new ones, getting in at 6.00 on Sundays, or sometimes 8.00 on Mondays, too confusing. Best just to download em after they have been on in the states!

[Drunk Barney]

Did anyone else notice the weird setup of Lisa The Treehugger on C4 last night. They showed the first 15mins then the break. Leaving just 5 minutes after the break.

[George Cauldron]

Well, if they'd cut to an advert break at the end of act one, it would've been far too early, making act 2 more appropriate, plus act 2 ends on more of a cliffhanger - with the tree having been felled.

[Butters]

And it's better than them cutting half a line of during act 2, like they did with Insane Clown Poppy...

[matt228]

Lisa the Tree Hugger is defininetly a good episode! Then on Friday we have Homer Vs Dignity, which I gave an A+. Nearly everyone else gives it a D- or something, so I'm sure I'll get flamed for that! :D
I have Homer Vs Dignity on DVD but I'm taping all of S12 on C4 so I'm not sure whether I should tape it or not! :boggled:

Then it's The Computer Wore Menace Shoes (fantastic episode, A+) and The Great Money Caper (I love it, A+, I'll get flamed cos most people rate about D-). Fantastic!

[simplysimpsons]

Lisa the Tree Hugger is defininetly a good episode! Then on Friday we have Homer Vs Dignity, which I gave an A+. Nearly everyone else gives it a D- or something, so I'm sure I'll get flamed for that!
I have Homer Vs Dignity on DVD but I'm taping all of S12 on C4 so I'm not sure whether I should tape it or not!

Then it's The Computer Wore Menace Shoes (fantastic episode, A+) and The Great Money Caper (I love it, A+, I'll get flamed cos most people rate about D-). Fantastic!
Heh! It seems like you give every episode an A+ from season 12! I enjoyed Lisa the Treehugger too though - definitely in my top 5 for S12.

Did anyone else notice the weird setup of Lisa The Treehugger on C4 last night. They showed the first 15mins then the break. Leaving just 5 minutes after the break.
If you're watching the classic episodes at 6pm weekdays, they're doing this with every one. I'm glad about it really, as I wouldn't want a break then see the remaining 4 minutes of the episode afterwards.

[Blythy]

ok, on Fox, and any other TV station across the pond, they view programs in 3 sections, for a half hour TV show, not two like we do over here, that's why we have the three act structure.

now, when the episodes come over here, the controllers only have two place to put the ad break, end of act one, or the end of act two, usually it's act one, as it's done on sky, but channel 4 are cutting it at the end of act two.

6 and two threes, you'll still be gettting nearly ten minutes or so of ads in that ten minute period.

[silentmike]

ok, on Fox, and any other TV station across the pond, they view programs in 3 sections, for a half hour TV show, not two like we do over here, that's why we have the three act structure.

now, when the episodes come over here, the controllers only have two place to put the ad break, end of act one, or the end of act two, usually it's act one, as it's done on sky, but channel 4 are cutting it at the end of act two.

6 and two threes, you'll still be gettting nearly ten minutes or so of ads in that ten minute period.

God 3 advert breaks, I dunno how the americans cope!

[Butters]

ok, on Fox, and any other TV station across the pond, they view programs in 3 sections, for a half hour TV show, not two like we do over here, that's why we have the three act structure.

now, when the episodes come over here, the controllers only have two place to put the ad break, end of act one, or the end of act two, usually it's act one, as it's done on sky, but channel 4 are cutting it at the end of act two.

6 and two threes, you'll still be gettting nearly ten minutes or so of ads in that ten minute period.
In because of America having more than one act break, Sky often cut references to other act breaks so they don't seem stupid. ("We'll be right back!" "When we return, Homer has a fetish for dusting and polishing sound-boards.")

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[TheSkoot]

I think that press release on the site might be wrong. Sky are still pimping a new episode at half six today. Worth checking out at least.

[Butters]

There have been two cuts in All's Fair In Over War as of yet (it's during the ads now).

Homer: I wouldn't dream about other naked ladies... I wouldn't even know how she could improve me.
(Cut to Bedroom)
(Marge is cutting naked women out of the Playdudes. She is currently cutting around a woman)
Marge : (pretending to be woman in the magazine) I don't have any clothes so I'll just sprawl
myself out on a pool table.

Bart : I could make my treehouse look like this. Then we could have orgies, whatever they are.

I'll edit this with anymore after the break. Sky are tits.

EDIT: Nothing else was good, they even left the "fornication" line and the "BFD" thing that was cut in the US...

EDIT 2: Wait, the edited James Caan getting shot...

EDIT 3: Could someone tell me if this is the correct way they cut it:

James Caan : Ohhh, a toll-booth. I hate these things.
(Caan hands a ticket to the man behind the toll-booth, the man drops to the floor as Hicks jump out from behind the toll-booth. Brandine leaps out the truck. The hicks begin to fire at Caan. Caan tries to make his way out of his car, taking several "bullets" to his body on the way out, when he gets out the door of his car, he is confronted with a hick standing in front of him. The
hick blasts him in the chest as "blood" marks appear on his chest. Caan becomes weak and falls to the ground. One hick continues shooting Caan, as more "blood" marks appear in his body. The hick then kicks Caan in the face.)

Did Caan's line at the end survive? (the one about flying instead of driving)

[Paul]

Damn, dude, that sucks. I hate how SkyOne regard The Simpsons as a children's show.

[George Cauldron]

I haven't seen the episode at all, but those cuts sound like the sort of thing that would remain intact had they screened the episode at 7pm instead of 6:30pm. I'll bet that next time it's shown, we get a complete episode.

[Rich Uncle Skeleton]

To be honest, I'm not surprised they cut parts out of the ending. What surprises me is the ending itself...it's TERRIBLE!! (And yes, I know the parody.)

[Butters]

I haven't seen the episode at all, but those cuts sound like the sort of thing that would remain intact had they screened the episode at 7pm instead of 6:30pm. I'll bet that next time it's shown, we get a complete episode.
I pray to god they do.

For those who care, I've added two videos of the removed scenes to my site. http://www.simpsorama.com/video.htm .

Hope this couldn't possibly be the 2nd coming of the over-the-top cuts, like in the 90's.

[George Cauldron]

I can see what you mean. Since this time last year, nine episodes have been cut. Almost twice as much as those from Seasons 13 and 14 combined.

[matt228]

All's Fair in Oven War was good, but I was probably expecting a bit more. I give it a B. I just hope the rest of S16 will be better. Treehouse of Horror XV, when it eventually airs, on 9th January (2005) at 18:30, should be a real treat!

This is from www.skyprogrammeinformation.co.uk :

New Episode

THE SIMPSONS – Treehouse Of Horror XV

Want to see all-new episodes of The Simpsons? Then tune in to Sky One, the only UK channel premiering the very latest instalments of the world’s greatest animation.


Author Thomas Pynchon and actor James Caan (Las Vegas) were the first of many guest stars to appear in the sixteenth series. Also destined for Simpsons-style makeovers this year are Sex & The City siren Kim Cattrall and hip-hop star 50 Cent, as well as returning favourites Stephen Hawking and Eric Idle. And as if that wasn’t enough, Matt Groening has confirmed that plans are afoot to write Ricky Gervais into the show.


With this much going on, plus spanking-new mishaps and misdemeanours from the Simpsons clan, you’d be Barny to miss it.


On Sunday 9 January, Treehouse Of Horror XV premieres on Sky One. In The Ned Zone - the first of the four chilling tales - Ned Flanders takes a knock to the head and finds he can foretell people's deaths. He's shocked to see himself murdering one of his neighbours… Then, in Four Beheadings And A Funeral, we head to Victorian London, where deerstalkered Detective Eliza Simpson and her sidekick Dr Bartley are trying to catch serial killer The Muttonchop Murderer. Finally, there's In The Belly Of The Boss, where Maggie is shrunk inside a vitamin pill and swallowed by Mr Burns. The lucky girl gets to explore his body, in a cheeky nod to 1960s classic Fantastic Voyage. Bring it on…

Sunday 9 January 18.30 Sky One

Note that SNPP's UK & Ireland Listings page has listed it at 18:00 rather than 18:30 by mistake.
Also note that I have taken the job of the SNPP page France and Benelux Listings - my first update should be online next week, I just need to gather more info.

[HansMolemans_Son]

I really enjoyed AFIOW, both stories were strong (I loved the Bart and Milhouse sub plot) and there weren't many jarring jokes like we've seen in the past 3 years (the only one I can think of off the top of my head was the ending).

A nice start to Season 16 for us UKers.

[Simpsons Forever!]

Sky will show FABF23 Treehouse Of Horror XV on 5th December.
On 12th December, Sky will show FABF22 She Used To Be My Girl.
This means we are keeping right up to date with the US!
http://data.skyprogrammeinformation.co.uk/wtv.php?week=67&chan=SKD1

[D'oheth!]

Stupid cuts. They leave one scene that I would think they would definetly remove (particularly at the timeslot), but remove two more less offensive scenes (Sky obviously have complete double standards - a similar scene to Cann getting shot in Saturdays Of Thunder was left intact)

[matt228]

All confirmed and verified. Brilliant!!!!!!!!!!!! :D

[Simpsons Forever!]

On 31st December, Sky are showing a marathon of Simpsons epsidodes. They are basically repeating the A-Z episodes up until M (Strong Arms Of The Ma.) Then they will repeat Weekend At Burnsie's later on in the evening.

[Mario]

Woohoo! Weekend at Burnsie's! What time is it on?

[matt228]

Weekend at Burnsie's is confirmed to air on 21st December at 21:40.

New Year's Eve (31st December) has 14 episodes of The Simpsons, they are all Not Yet Listed. Weekend at Burnsie's isn't confirmed to air then (as no episode details are known yet), but it may be the episode that is to air at 22:05, since it is post-watershed, and a while after the other 13 episodes.

There are episodes on at: 14:30, 15:00, 15:30, 16:00, 16:30, 17:00, 17:30, 18:00, 18:30, 19:00, 19:30, 20:00, 20:30 and 22:05.
So, from 2:30pm til 9pm, and from 10:05pm til 10:35pm, The Simpsons rules the TV!

[Simpsons Forever!]

On New Year's Eve, the following episodes will air from 14:30 (in this order):

The Sweetest Apu, The Trouble With Trillions, The Ziff Who Came To Dinner, Mountain Of Madness, Sweets And Sour Marge, King-Sized Homer, The Old Man And The Key, Poppa's Got A Brand New Badge, The Day The Violence Died, Lisa The Iconoclast, Today I Am A Klown, Smart And Smarter, Strong Arms Of The Ma.
This is up to 21:00, then at 22:05, Weekend At Burnsie's is on.

All information according to http://data.skyprogrammeinformation.co.uk/wtv.php?week=69&chan=SKD1

[matt228]

On New Year's Eve, the following episodes will air from 14:30 (in this order):

The Sweetest Apu, The Trouble With Trillions, The Ziff Who Came To Dinner, Mountain Of Madness, Sweets And Sour Marge, King-Sized Homer, The Old Man And The Key, Poppa's Got A Brand New Badge, The Day The Violence Died, Lisa The Iconoclast, Today I Am A Klown, Smart And Smarter, Strong Arms Of The Ma.
This is up to 21:00, then at 22:05, Weekend At Burnsie's is on.

All information according to http://data.skyprogrammeinformation.co.uk/wtv.php?week=69&chan=SKD1
Thanks for that. Sky Programme Information must have just released that information today, since I checked yesterday. :D

[Nelson The Bully]

George give me your money

[Simpsons Forever!]

I've got the December Sky magazine now and they confirm that a new episode of The Simpsons will air at 18:30 on Sun 5th, 12th AND 19th of December. This must mean that as well as THOHXV (5th) and She Used To Be My Girl (12th), they will show Fat Man And Little Boy on the 19th, as it is the only one they could possibly show then.

[matt228]

I haven't got mine yet, but I'll check you up on that when I do! Only 1 week behind Fox! I wonder how long it'll last...Maybe Murdoch decided to treat Sky viewers with a new episodes a week after Fox so he'd get more money from ratings, and less people would download them.

[matt228]

Got my Sky guide today.

Just browsing it now. It lists new episodes for all three days mentioned by "Simpsons Forever!".

Sky One - New Episodes (25th November-31st December 2004)
Sunday, 28th November - FABF19 - Sleeping With the Enemy
Sunday, 5th December - FABF23 - Treehouse of Horror XV
Sunday, 12th December - FABF22 - She Used to Be My Girl
Sunday, 19th December - FABF21 - Fat Man and Little Boy
Sunday, 26th December - ------- - none scheduled yet

[George Cauldron]

I'd like to see how Channel Four holds up on its so-far-so-good lack of any real censorship when they broadcast Oh Brother, Where Art Thou? at 6pm tomorrow, which is probably the "rudest" episode they're showing up to this point in time, with multiple "bastards."

[H Thompson]

"Please lose seven bastards"
Its using it in the none offensive way, that's the point of the joke so they should do, especially if there willing to show blood and violence in other episodes at the same time.

[Butters]

Sky never cut the "bastard" scene from Oh, Brother Where Art Thou?. They did cut Homer saying "Holy moley, the bastard's rich!". So, hopefully C4 will go even further and not cut it at all... BBC 2 though cut both the jokes. Wankers.

[George Cauldron]

I'm very sure I've heard "Holy moly, the bastard's rich!" on Sky One, several times at least. If Channel Four wanted to cut the episode, it'd make more sense to cut Bart's "bastard" lines because although he's claiming to use the literal meaning, he is actually yelling it out as a swear word to annoy his parents.

[Blythy]

I'm sure that it was shown on BBC2

[Simpsons Forever!]

Got my Sky guide today.

Just browsing it now. It lists new episodes for all three days mentioned by "Simpsons Forever!".

Sky One - New Episodes (25th November-31st December 2004)
Sunday, 28th November - FABF19 - Sleeping With the Enemy
Sunday, 5th December - FABF23 - Treehouse of Horror XV
Sunday, 12th December - FABF22 - She Used to Be My Girl
Sunday, 19th December - FABF21 - Fat Man and Little Boy
Sunday, 26th December - ------- - none scheduled yet


On 26th, at 18:30, Sky will show Bart Star. This brings to an end a 12 week era of at least one new episode a week.

[D'oheth!]

C4 left in the "Holy Moley" bastard line, but I didn't catch the start, so Bart's bit may still be cut.

[Drunk Barney]

It was ALL UNCUT!

This could be a good sign for future episodes that may contain this type of stuff

[matt228]

Channel 4 left all the 'bastard' lines in Oh Brother, Where Art Thou?.

Bart Star will air on 26th December, but FOX haven't revealed their episode for 19th December. It may just be because FOX aren't airing one on the 19th. The only reason we haven't had a gap for 12 weeks is because S15 had 10 episodes in 9 weeks over October and November, then All's Fair in Oven War aired the next week (21st November). Treehouse of Horror XV has been held back until 5th December, and this fills the gap, as the previous week (28th November), FOX are showing Ice Age, then a repeat of Bart-Mangled Banner at 9pm EST, and Sky want to keep up, so they are putting Treehouse of Horror XV, which was pulled from November, in the week where they'd have to have no new episode if they held Treehouse of Horror XV until even later.

[Butters]

Why are Sky holding Treehouse of Horror XV back, anyways? It will look even more odd to air a premiere of a Halloween episode in December, when they could've aired it in November.

[matt228]

They held it back because, the week after FOX showed it, they had to finish off S15. Also, I guess they'll have to cut it.

[HansMolemans_Son]

What do you think will need to be cut?

[Butters]

"You don't want to piss off someone who can kick you on the crotch from the inside!"

That's all, really... wouldn't take to longer to cut, considering how long it must've took them to butch All's Fair In Oven War.

[George Cauldron]

Talking of cuts, was the orphan's line "Don't touch me! Nothing gives you that right!" ever in Sky One's broadcasts of Homer VS. Dignity, because I just saw it on Channel 4 and something tells me I don't remember that bit ever being shown before.

[H Thompson]

I remember it very well as being the best line in the episode when I saw it on Sky so yes it was in the orginal broadcast.

You know rewatching the episode iluminated how irrational the critcism of the "panda rape" scene is, I mean its not like they show any scene of the panda trying to penetrate Homer.

[matt228]

I remember it very well as being the best line in the episode when I saw it on Sky so yes it was in the orginal broadcast.

You know rewatching the episode iluminated how irrational the critcism of the "panda rape" scene is, I mean its not like they show any scene of the panda trying to penetrate Homer.
Thank you! I think the panda rape joke was hilarious, but no-one else seems to!

[JonHillier]

Yeah, I think the orphan line has been left on Sky before.

Also, did anyone watch Friday Night with Jonathan Ross last night? Ricky Gervais talked about his appearance in the Simpsons. They haven't decided quite what it'll be, but he confirmed that he will be doing it, and that the writers want him to help in the writing process of his appearance. He seemed very daunted/excited about it.

[Simpsons Forever!]

Homer228, Fox are repeating 'Tis The Fifteenth Season on 19th December. There will be no new episode.

[H Thompson]

Thank you! I think the panda rape joke was hilarious, but no-one else seems to!

While I didn't think it was hilarious it doesn't seem like its as people like to imagine, Scully thinking "hey it'd be funny if Homer got raped by a Panda," its there to make homer realise he's gone too far.

[matt228]

Homer228, Fox are repeating 'Tis The Fifteenth Season on 19th December. There will be no new episode.
Thanks. That completely explains it.


Anyone who talks to me on MSN or emails me will have to wait, sorry, as Hotmail, MSN Explorer (what I normally use instead of Internet Explorer, I'm using Internet Explorer now - MSN Explorer is much better!), MSN Messenger and Windows Messenger are all not working. Is this just for me or is it a global problem?

[Butters]

Talking of cuts, was the orphan's line "Don't touch me! Nothing gives you that right!" ever in Sky One's broadcasts of Homer VS. Dignity, because I just saw it on Channel 4 and something tells me I don't remember that bit ever being shown before.
Yes, it was never cut. While on the topic, last week when I watched Lisa The Treehugger, I had the same feeling about when Homer turned the news report over to the war program...

After Season 2, I assume C4 will air Season 3. Or is there chance they will just show random seasons?

[Drunk Barney]

No they are showing Season 3.

Wezzo has put the January listings in! http://www.snpp.com/upcoming/uk.html

Homer_228, MSN is working fine 4 me.

[matt228]

After Season 2, I assume C4 will air Season 3. Or is there chance they will just show random seasons?
Season 3 will follow S2. I'm guessing that S4, S5, S11 and S12 (after the Friday at 9pm episodes stop, they'll probably air as repeats weekdays at 6pm) will air in that order, but I hope that S11 airs quite soon (before S4 or S5?) - I want to tape it all.

Wezzo put up to 10-Dec, but he forgot to include the listings to 17-Dec (In4mer release 3 weeks schedules - he put on the title 27-Nov to 17-Dec, but left the listings to 10-Dec!!!)
28-Nov 18:00 CABF04 Homer vs. Dignity
29-Nov 18:00 7F14 Bart's Dog Gets An F
30-Nov 18:00 7F17 Old Money
01-Dec 18:00 7F18 Brush With Greatness
02-Dec 18:00 7F19 Lisa's Substitute
03-Dec 18:00 7F20 The War Of The Simpsons
03-Dec 21:00 CABF02 *NEW* - The Computer Wore Menace Shoes
05-Dec 18:00 CABF02 The Computer Wore Menace Shoes
06-Dec 18:00 7F21 Three Men and a Comic Book
07-Dec 18:00 7F22 Blood Feud
08-Dec 18:00 7F24 Stark Raving Dad (season 3 premiere)
09-Dec 18:00 8F01 Mr. Lisa Goes To Washington
10-Dec 18:00 7F23 When Flanders Failed
10-Dec 21:00 CABF03 *NEW* - The Great Money Caper
12-Dec 18:00 CABF03 The Great Money Caper
13-Dec 18:00 8F03 Bart the Murderer
14-Dec 18:00 8F04 Homer Defined
15-Dec 18:00 8F05 Like Father, Like Clown
16-Dec 18:00 8F02 Treehouse of Horror II
17-Dec 18:00 8F06 Lisa's Pony
17-Dec 21:00 CABF06 *NEW* - Skinner's Sense of Snow
And, I guess this (but no information is given):
19-Dec 18:00 CABF06 Skinner's Sense of Snow
20-Dec 18:00 8F07 Saturdays of Thunder
21-Dec 18:00 8F08 Flaming Moe's
22-Dec 18:00 8F09 Burns Verkaufen der Kraftwerk
23-Dec 18:00 8F10 I Married Marge
24-Dec 18:00 8F11 Radio Bart
24-Dec 21:00 BABF22 *NEW* - HOMR

I hope my MSN Explorer, MSN Messenger and Hotmail starts working again soon, I need to send a list of errors to Wezzo!

[Butters]

17-Dec 21:00 CABF06 *NEW* - Skinner's Sense of Snow
24-Dec 21:00 BABF22 *NEW* - HOMR
I can see those two swapping places. I'm guessing everyone else will probably be thinking the same.

[matt228]

In4mer have already confirmed that CABF06 Skinner's Sense of Snow will air 17th December, so at the moment, that isn't happening. BABF22 HOMR isnt confirmed yet, C4 have only released schedules up to 17th December. I just assumed that HOMR will air on 24th December since it is the Friday, and all the S12 episodes are in order up to the 17th December (except BABF21 Treehouse of Horror XI and BABF20 A Tale of Two Springfields, which aired the wrong way around)..

[Butters]

Last minute changes could easily be made, and I can TRULY see this switch being made. I mean airing a Christmas episode on Christmas Eve just makes more sense than airing it a week before.

Sleeping With The Enemy airs tomorrow... and I'm still waiting for the site I download episodes from to upload the damn thing.

[Rowdy Roddy Peeper]

I just typed all this out and then it got deleted because of a freakin- missing link, that's 45 minutes of my life wasted and i want them back....oh i'll probably waste them anyway. Here goes...again!

Looks like we are going to have a Yellow Christmas after all.

I wrote loads of listings down, but because the links keep on messing up, i'm not going waste any more of my time. I'll just give you the low-down.

C4 seem to be doing a few more Simpsons episodes over xmas, like a few double bills here and there. Also, the 'new' episode on Friday 24th is on at 7pm.

Also, Sky are doing a special A-Z of The Simpsons up until the New Year, starting from December 6th. Each day is a different letter (for etc. Apu is under A, so episodes involving him will be shown on the first day). the epsiodes range form 2 eps a day to 4 eps a day. However, on New Years Eve we ahve a massive 14 episodes on in one evening!

So things are looking bright. If you have any more in depth questions i'll post some of the details i have. But i don't actually know which episodes are on yet, just the times and the amount of episodes a day. And Season 3 is definately on over December and January.

I'll post a much updated version when the time comes (when the official TV guide comes out)

[George Cauldron]

Not really a cut, per se, but I caught the beginning of Homer VS. Dignity today, and noticed that the blackboard gag had the lines "I WILL NOT SURPRISE THE INCONTINENT" on it, which came from Insane Clown Poppy. Every time Homer VS. Dignity has aired here, both on Sky and Channel 4, it's had this blackboard gag, when really, it should say "I WAS NOT THE SIXTH BEATLE." Why have we never seen the original blackboard gag here?

[Butters]

Not really a cut, per se, but I caught the beginning of Homer VS. Dignity today, and noticed that the blackboard gag had the lines "I WILL NOT SURPRISE THE INCONTINENT" on it, which came from Insane Clown Poppy. Every time Homer VS. Dignity has aired here, both on Sky and Channel 4, it's had this blackboard gag, when really, it should say "I WAS NOT THE SIXTH BEATLE." Why have we never seen the original blackboard gag here?
That's strange. Until today at 20:54 I was completely unaware of this... I suppose perhaps that SkyOne and C4 received foreign copies, where the field would be blank for text to be altered to another language, and perhaps they had to discard the blank board and replace it with a different one? (they could've easily replaced the TV credits with another one. This could possibly be what was up with Treehouse of Horror XI). In the history of the show (in the UK), the only other blackboard alteration was on BBC 2, Lisa's First Word I think, they removed "Teacher is not a leper" and replaced it with Bart Gets an 'F''s gag. And if you really want to count weird openings, don't forget how in the 90's Sky used to just skip the entire opening for The Homer They Fall for no reason at all, man was that weird.

While on the topic of weird openings, what the hell is up with Sideshow Bob Roberts's opening?

[George Cauldron]

Don't know about the reason for Sideshow Bob Roberts' opening, straight to the TV, but I think that's the way the episode's always been, as far as I'm aware.

Another episode opening anomaly is that of The Sweetest Apu - we don't see the opening blackboard there either - "I WILL NEVER LIE ABOUT BEING CANCELLED AGAIN." I'd like to have seen that one, seeing as it was our British papers who got the whole thing out of proportion in the first place.

[Blythy]

Not really a cut, per se, but I caught the beginning of Homer VS. Dignity today, and noticed that the blackboard gag had the lines "I WILL NOT SURPRISE THE INCONTINENT" on it, which came from Insane Clown Poppy. Every time Homer VS. Dignity has aired here, both on Sky and Channel 4, it's had this blackboard gag, when really, it should say "I WAS NOT THE SIXTH BEATLE." Why have we never seen the original blackboard gag here?
was it ever shown here before george harrison died?

[George Cauldron]

Nope, they've never shown the original blackboard gag before or after George Harrison's death.

[matt228]

For anyone interested, the News of the World Sunday newspaper released the schedules for the terrestrial channels plus a few major Sky channels like Sky One.
The Simpsons airs on Channel 4 in the following timeslots (the timeslots were revealed, but the episodes are Not Yet Listed):
Thursday 23rd to Wednesday 29th December:
23-Dec 18:00 NYL The Simpsons
24-Dec 18:00 NYL The Simpsons
24-Dec 19:00 NYL The Simpsons (no mention of a new episode, but I guess it is)
25-Dec 15:00 ----The Simpsons Christmas Message
25-Dec 15:05 NYL The Simpsons
25-Dec 15:35 NYL The Simpsons
25-Dec 16:05 ----[/I]The Simpsons Christmas Message[/I]
27-Dec 18:00 NYL The Simpsons
27-Dec 21:10 NYL The Simpsons
27-Dec 21:40 NYL The Simpsons
28-Dec 17:30 NYL The Simpsons
29-Dec 18:00 NYL The Simpsons

There are a number of C4 To Be Announced timeslots. Some of them could be filled with The Simpsons, but some are of wrong length (an hour timeslot could be a double bill, or one episode in there somewhere). I have listed them all, start to finish (times between midnight and 6am are considered part of the previous day):
23-Dec 19:30 to 20:00
23-Dec 21:00 to 23:00
24-Dec 09:20 to 09:55
24-Dec 19:30 to 19:45
25-Dec 20:05 to 22:25
25-Dec 00:20 to 01:50
26-Dec 18:30 to 19:25
26-Dec 19:30 to 21:00
26-Dec 00:00 to 02:00
27-Dec 07:00 to 07:30
27-Dec 15:15 to 16:15
27-Dec 22:40 to 00:10
28-Dec 06:00 to 06:10 (yeah right!!)
28-Dec 07:00 to 07:25
28-Dec 13:00 to 13:35
28-Dec 00:30 to 02:50
29-Dec 07:00 to 07:25
29-Dec 15:15 to 16:20
29-Dec 22:30 to 01:45

That's all! Wow, I really need to post less :D

[Drunk Barney]

I have a feeling Sky are going to keep right up 2 date with USA all the way threw S16. Oh and BTW after THOHXV has aired on Skyone for a few hours or so we will be RIGHT UPDATED with the US!!

[david195]

Sky Programme Information has just announced that on Sunday 19th December at 6.30 pm there is another A-Z episode, not a new one. This could still change though and 'Fat Man and Little Boy' might be shown later that night or week. It's more likely though that they'll keep it for January.

[Rowdy Roddy Peeper]

They'll keep it for January, they won't break up the A-Z theme for a new episode.

[H Thompson]

Why do Sky insisit on all these gimmicks, no matter how you dress it up there still
re-runs everyones knows this but we don't mind, its unreasonable to expect constant new episodes, just one every 2 weeks is just fine and if the repeats were randomly mixed up then that would be absoloutley fine for me.

[Rowdy Roddy Peeper]

Well These 'gimmicks' always attract more viewers and of course they seem to have more episodes per normal. So i don't see the harm in that. Especially since i doubt Sky would of stayed with America though till the end of the season.

[silentmike]

I herd E4 are going to be showing the simpsons, is this true?

[matt228]

I herd E4 are going to be showing the simpsons, is this true?
According to Butters, E4 don't have the rights to The Simpsons, but I don't know of this.

[Rich Uncle Skeleton]

It's been discussed many times. Might be in one of the other threads, but the gist of it was Simpsons can only be shown on one terrestial channel and one non-terrestial channel. So they can't show it on both Sky One and E4.

[Simpsons Forever!]

Sky Programme info. say that there will be no new episode on 2nd January. The Regina Monologues will be shown again instead.

[Rowdy Roddy Peeper]

Just watched 'The Computer Woe Menace Shoes' again, just remembered what a dissapointing episode it was.

Starts off great, even though Homer is more of a kid and Bart is just not Bart (swung at a cop with a blade knife?), the plot is there and there is an amount of very good jokes. However, they have to ruin the plot with a massive Prisoner parody, which is remotely funny the first time you view the episode, then you realise what the hell happened to the episode? It just annoys me so much, when Scully or whoever allowed that parody to take place, ruined the episode for all.

-2/5 and they are lucky they are even getting that

[H Thompson]

I actually quite like the prisoner parody, just pretend its an extended THOH.

[George Cauldron]

In stark contrast to Rowdy Roddy Peeper, I saw the episode in a different light and found it to be better than it was before. Maybe it's nostalgia, maybe it's me being too generous for my own good, or perhaps it's just time making these episodes better, but Season 12 is actually starting to grow on me.

[Butters]

In stark contrast to Rowdy Roddy Peeper, I saw the episode in a different light and found it to be better than it was before. Maybe it's nostalgia, maybe it's me being too generous for my own good, or perhaps it's just time making these episodes better, but Season 12 is actually starting to grow on me.
-wants to make a comment about Season 12 not being the only thing to grow on Cauldron, but can't think of one-

I must admit, I actually am enjoying Season 12 a bit more this time around. The Computer Wore Menace shoes gets a 2/5 from me, the Prisoner parody was too out-of-the-blue and ruined what was heading for a 4/5.

For the sake of it, so far Season 12:
Tree House Of Horror XI - 2/5
Tale Of Two Springfields - 3/5
Insane Clown Poppy - 4/5
Homer vs. Dignity - 1/5
The Computer Wore Menace Shoes - 2/5

Tree House of Horror XV airs tomorrow on Sky. They will probably destroy the credit sequence by plugging the next show and will probably dispose of Homer's "you don't want to piss off a man who can kick you in the crotch from the inside." And if they wanna be bitches, like they were with All's Fair In Oven War they might cut a few instances of violence (although, the episode wasn't really that violent, compared to last years.)

Another "useless fact" post brought to you by Butters.

[matt228]

For the sake of it, so far Season 12:
Tree House Of Horror XI - 2/5
Tale Of Two Springfields - 3/5
Insane Clown Poppy - 4/5
Homer vs. Dignity - 1/5
The Computer Wore Menace Shoes - 2/5

Season 12 never really disappointed me, but it is growing on me too!
I give The Computer Wore Menace Shoes an A+.

SEASON TWELVE (2000-2001)
Treehouse of Horror XI: A
A Tale of Two Springfields: A
Insane Clown Poppy: B
Lisa the Tree Hugger: B
Homer Vs. Dignity: A+ (best of season - joint)
The Computer Wore Menace Shoes: A+ (best of season - joint)
The Great Money Caper: A+ (best of season - joint)
Skinner’s Sense of Snow: A
HOMR: A
Pokey Mom: haven't seen it
Worst Episode Ever: B-
Tennis the Menace: B
Day of the Jackanapes: A-
New Kids of the Bleech: C+
Hungry, Hungry Homer: B+
Bye, Bye Nerdy: C- (worst of season)
Simpson Safari: B+
Trilogy of Error: A
I'm Goin’ to Praiseland: B+
Children of a Lesser Clod: B
Simpson Tall Tales: A-

[Rich Uncle Skeleton]

Don't know if this has been posted already in this thread (though it doesn't really belong here anyway), but amazon.co.uk says the Season 5 DVD will be released on February 7th, 2005, while play.com says it will be released on March 14th, 2005. My guess is that the later date will stand.

The Computer Wore Menace Shoes: A+ (best of season - joint)
The Great Money Caper: A+ (best of season - joint)It's official: you're crazy.

[Rowdy Roddy Peeper]

Tree House Of Horror XI - 3.5/5
Tale Of Two Springfields - 3/5
Insane Clown Poppy - 3.5/5
Lisa The Treehugger - 3/5
Homer vs. Dignity - 3/5
The Computer Wore Menace Shoes - 2/5

average of 3/5 so far. Not terrible, just not much good.

[simpsons12345]

I like Channel 4 with the simpsons at the mo because...SO FAR, they haven't cut any scenes, like Sky have done

Well, we'll just have to wait and see what happens.

I also like the new episodes being shown on friday nights because friday night's a time where you can just relax with a bag of crisps and a coke and well...relax!

Does anyone agree with me?

[H Thompson]

Why not my season rankings, with hastily and badly written repetitive mini reviews.

Tree House Of Horror XI C Its alright in my opinion at least the Scullyish humour doesn't feel so out of place in an episode like this and for me it beats THOH X, XII and XIII

Tale Of Two Springfields C-
The satirical parts of the story came across a lot more on this viewing and it does have some great lines - "those 3 weeks at area code camp" and "What does freedom mean to me, but still pretty messy with pointless guest star for contrived plot soloution.
but I upped my grade a little after this viewing.


Insane Clown Poppy C- Seemed a lot more flat and uninriguing on this viewing with a pretty contrived solution which allows Homer to get into a wacky situation at the end.

Lisa The Treehugger - C A more intresting premise and storytelling than most but I found a lot of the jokes didn't work on this viewing I barley even chuckled at anything here.

Homer vs. Dignity - C- It struck me that the panda rape is overblown, Its there more as a device to make Homer realise he's going too far in his pranking than something for cheap laughs. Although this device isn't actually very inspired nonetheless. Slightly Funnier than Insane clown poppy but still an unitriguing story.

The Computer Wore Menace Shoes B- Its probably just me but I like the Prisone parody, its completley preposterous and should be a THOH but I quite Like it, and the rest of the episode is funnier and more intresting than your average S12 ep.

So at the moment numerically the season is a 4.83 out of 12
Or just short of a C.

I prefer other things on a friday night to season 12 like "Have I Got News For You," "QI" and "Peep Show" thank god for video tape So I can get around the problem of them clashing.

[zimon_der_ace]

Why do SKy One do crappy things liek the A-Z or the Summer Giveaway. I mean, I took part in the summer giveaway and ydo u know wat i got? A crappy Krusty Kamp poster. I mean, it was terrible. I think the people of england would much prefer to watch a new episode rather than watching things like the A-Z

Sky Programme Information has just announced that on Sunday 19th December at 6.30 pm there is another A-Z episode, not a new one.
Its so dam annoying!

[Mario]

I won that Kamp Krusty poster too!

[zimon_der_ace]

its a bit crap, isnt it?

i h8 dat poster thouh

[matt228]

All eyes on Treehouse of Horror XV tonight! Should be a treat, especially since Four Beheadings and a Funeral is set in good old Britian.

[zimon_der_ace]

yeh i agree - cant wait to see this (i think the ned zone sounds like the best one - wat about u homer228????)

[Drunk Barney]

Tree House Of Horror XI - 3.5/5 The first segemnt and the last one was quite good though the second one was a little weak.
Tale Of Two Springfields - 4/5 This episode seems a bit silly but it is fun
Insane Clown Poppy - 4/5 A good episode, perhaps a little boring at times
Lisa The Treehugger - 3.5/5 Good plot, though not really funny.
Homer vs. Dignity - 3/5 A stupid whacky plot. Though it was quite funny
The Computer Wore Menace Shoes - 3.5/5 Great episode, quite funny and good plot, though an awful third act totaly spoils the episode

OVERALL: 3.5/5

[zimon_der_ace]

which is the middle one? i avent seen it

[matt228]

yeh i agree - cant wait to see this (i think the ned zone sounds like the best one - wat about u homer228????)
I think The Ned Zone will be the best of the three also. Four Beheadings and a Funeral middle, and In the Body of the Boss the worst. I'm just looking forward to Four Beheadings and a Funeral for the British parodies.

[zimon_der_ace]

yeh, i saw a clip from it and it looks sooo funny.. any americans wat to tell us wat they'd give it outta 10?

[Bob Smith]

I rate it a 8/10

[zimon_der_ace]

bob, wat was ur favouite part of the ep?

[ItchyScratchy100]

I taped and watched the whole entire night. It was great! Seriously, Channel 4 shows "The Simpsons" a bit more better than that Sky One with their awful new idents!
Besides, after Channel 4 showed the UK premire of the music video from Band Aid 20 (which rocked!) on Richard & Judy, they shown one of my favourite Simpsons episodes, "Itchy & Scratchy & Marge"! THE EPISODE'S PRESENTATION WAS BETTER THAN DVD!!! Well done, Channel 4, well done indeed.

[Drunk Barney]

I`m a Brit and I saw it

The Ned Zone: 8.5/10
Four Beheadings And A funeral: 8/10
Belly In The Boss: 8/10

Cant wait to re-watch it

[Butters]

Well, since giving reviews BEFORE the episode airs seems to be the style of the day, here's mine.

FABF23 – Treehouse Of Horror XV
Ah, good ol’ Treehouse Of Horror episodes… the only episodes that I have no problem with… except this one.
The Ned Zone – Clever, funny and original. The best of the trilogy. The only problem is it was incredibly short because the writers wanted to have Homer taunt Ned with a gun for 2 minutes and a horrible ending in Heaven. The shortness of this tale was a real let down, it’s like “Ned’s hurt, oh my god! Ned can see the future, oh my god! Ned’s going to kill Homer, oh my god! Ned thinks he’s changed the future, oh my god! Ned’s killed Homer, oh my god! Homer’s blown up the town, oh my god!” in two minutes… 4/5
Four Beheadings and a Funeral – My god, what was this? British Accents annoyed the hell out of me, hilariously unfunny and horribly unscary. The only funny moment was the Peter Pan Teen thing (even though it was a complete rip-off of a joke in South Park where Michael Jackson dresses up as Peter Pan to molest Cartman). The “mystery”, if you can ever call it a mystery, was uninspired and boring. Who didn’t see Wiggum being the culprit? The opium jokes did it for me, Ralph on opium is now listed in my “Worst Jokes List”. The ending was horrible too. 1/5
In The Belly Of The Boss – Maybe it was just me, but I found this to be quite an amusing little tale. The call back to Treehouse Of Horror II at the end was a nice touch, although I wish they spent more time in Mr. Burns body then discussing stuff. Hardly had anything to do with going inside Mr. Burns to tell the truth… and I really hate when THOH tales end with dancing. 3/5.
Overall – A let-down. Very forgettable and short THOH.
3/5.
Doubt a second viewing will change my mind.

EDIT: Cut!
Frink : Make that zero chance. Frink out!
(Frink runs away)
(Cut to Glided Truffle)
(The family are having dinner.)
Lisa : Dad, would you like some of my or Bart's cheesecake?
Mr. Burns : No, I feel full enough as it is.
Homer's Head : I'll tell you when we're full. You don't want to piss off a man who can kick you in the crotch from the inside.
(Homer's head begins eating it.)

Told you it'd be cut. ;)

[matt228]

Treehouse of Horror XV was a great episode! Best of S16 so far!

The Ned Zone: A+
Four Beheadings and a Funeral: B
In the Belly of the Boss: A-
Overall: A-

S16 so far:
Treehouse of Horror XV: A-
All's Fair in Oven War: B-
Sleeping With the Enemy: A-

[zimon_der_ace]

IM SO ANNOYED I MISSED THE BEGINNING OF THE EPISODE!! wat happens be4 ned saves moleman? (then kills him)????

ned zone: 8/10
britian one: 9/10
other one: 7.5/10

[Mario]

There's an alien TV show about Kang and Kodos, then Ned gets hit by Homer's bowling ball, forsees Hibbert's death and it happened.

[zimon_der_ace]

ah, rite , thx

[Rich Uncle Skeleton]

zimon_der_ace, please write in real sentences, typing in shorthand on a message board (a) is annoying for everyone who reads it and (b) does not save you any time.

[Simpsons Forever!]

This was the best THOH since THOHXII! The best bit was The Ned Zone and the worst was Four Beheadings. The British accents were TERRIBLE! I couldn't understand some of what Marge said!
Overall 4/5 B

[JonHillier]

What did you expect though? We've already been subjected to appaling British accents in the Regina Monologues, which pretty much confirmed it for me. Best accent was Lisa's but even that in places was fairly poor.

Anyway, as for the episode, I thought it was great; the season gets better and better - the writers/series is clearly back on track.

[H Thompson]

The British accents were supposed to be terrible, it was exaggerated, over the top victorian london sterotyping. I thought they were funny.

[Simpsons Forever!]

I thought they were too OTT. It was unnecessary. If they had been toned down a bit, the segment could have been much better.

[zimon_der_ace]

i thought that Lisa's accent was really great, and I agree that Marge's was hard to understand. Scottvivan, sorry for writing short hand, I have changed it now!!! I agree, it was a great THOH!

[JonHillier]

The British accents were supposed to be terrible, it was exaggerated, over the top victorian london sterotyping. I thought they were funny.

I'm not entirely convinced. Yeardly is the only acomplished classical stage-actress amongst them, and the only one with the necessary training in pronunciation to be able to pull off a british accent; hence why her's was most successful. If they were all supposed to be terrible, Yeardly wouldn't have bothered.

[zimon_der_ace]

yea a no (lil britan)

[Butters]

Even though I understood that the British accents were supposed to be poor, I still found them annoying. Also, why is it that the only British accents that are shown on TV or cockney or snobby ones? What about us normal Brits?

Anyway, if anyone even remotely cares anymore, possible cut from She Used To Be My Girl:
(Kent Brockman is being bullied by Dan Rather and Tom Brocov. Brocov has Brockman's Microphone and is holding it up so Brockman can't reach it.)
Tom Brocov : You want your mick back, Old Blacker?
Kent Brockman : This just in, I'm pissed off!

[TheSkoot]

The British accents were supposed to be terrible, it was exaggerated, over the top victorian london sterotyping. I thought they were funny.

No, it was 'Hey, it's the Simpsons... with cockney accents!! That'll be funny enough to carry an entire segment!'. I missed the first story, but fortunately the last one was pretty good ('These white blood cells are eating my clothes!! ...well, at least they know where to stop.')

[matt228]

Now, I wonder...will C4 continue onto S4 when S3 has finished it's 6pm airings, then S5, S11 and back to S2, or will they air them randomly, with S11 airing sooner? We'll find out in 2 weeks or so!

[zimon_der_ace]

yeh

[Butters]

Now, I wonder...will C4 continue onto S4 when S3 has finished it's 6pm airings, then S5, S11 and back to S2, or will they air them randomly, with S11 airing sooner? We'll find out in 2 weeks or so!
I'd say in order. Although, The Grift Of Magi is airing towards Christmas, after that I'd say everything will be aired in order. And maybe after that they'll start showing seasons randomly. (like they do with their endless Friends repeats.)

Also, I remember reading that they had Season 6 somewhere, is this true?

[matt228]

I'd say in order. Although, The Grift Of Magi is airing towards Christmas, after that I'd say everything will be aired in order. And maybe after that they'll start showing seasons randomly. (like they do with their endless Friends repeats.)

Also, I remember reading that they had Season 6 somewhere, is this true?
Grift of the Magi is only airing on Christmas Eve for festive reasons. When I said airing randomly, I meant seasons, not episodes. I thought that was pretty clear.

The Channel 4 Simpsons microsite originally had Season 6 listed on the Episode Guide, but they don't anymore. I've been on there, and some of the episodes are strangely in the wrong season (they count Brother, Can You Spare Two Dimes? as S4, like Fox; they have around 6 S13 episodes counted as end of S12, and they have 2 episodes from S6 ending the S5 list). We can assume this means that Sky One has S6 (I think they aired Bart's Comet a couple of weeks ago!)

[zimon_der_ace]

yes, i noticed that too on the C4 website

[Butters]

Grift of the Magi is only airing on Christmas Eve for festive reasons. When I said airing randomly, I meant seasons, not episodes. I thought that was pretty clear.

The Channel 4 Simpsons microsite originally had Season 6 listed on the Episode Guide, but they don't anymore. I've been on there, and some of the episodes are strangely in the wrong season (they count Brother, Can You Spare Two Dimes? as S4, like Fox; they have around 6 S13 episodes counted as end of S12, and they have 2 episodes from S6 ending the S5 list). We can assume this means that Sky One has S6 (I think they aired Bart's Comet a couple of weeks ago!)
They must have their episode guide in production code order, and not air-date order. The 6 S13 episodes (THOH XII-Blunder Years, I assume) are all from the CABF run and were held-back until S13. So, maybe they're receiving the seasons in p-code order, instead of broadcast order. Which would make this much more complicated!

And Zimon_Der_Ace, all your posts in this thread have shared some terrific thoughts/feelings of yours! Keep it up!

[H Thompson]

Even though I understood that the British accents were supposed to be poor, I still found them annoying. Also, why is it that the only British accents that are shown on TV or cockney or snobby ones? What about us normal Brits?



Well it was inspired by the Jack the Ripper murders which took place in london, and even in english produced programs and films depicting victorian london, (Oliver Twist, Great Expectations) and hey I'd much rather see us Brits being depicted as prostitutes and opium addicts than a bunch of snobs and Homosexuals that love the queen.


No, it was 'Hey, it's the Simpsons... with cockney accents!! That'll be funny enough to carry an entire segment!'. I missed the first story, but fortunately the last one was pretty good

No it wasn't, a member here found far in advance an interview with a writer who didn't write the episode but pitched a lot of the material based on what he'd been reading about Victorian London.
If your going to criticise don't make false judgments on the writers, Some of them it appears do browse these forums, So if you want them to take your reviews seriously don't insult them.

[zimon_der_ace]

the last one was much worse than the first!

[matt228]

They must have their episode guide in production code order, and not air-date order. The 6 S13 episodes (THOH XII-Blunder Years, I assume) are all from the CABF run and were held-back until S13. So, maybe they're receiving the seasons in p-code order, instead of broadcast order. Which would make this much more complicated!

And Zimon_Der_Ace, all your posts in this thread have shared some terrific thoughts/feelings of yours! Keep it up!
Yes, the episodes are Treehouse of Horror XII to The Blunder Years. If they receive the seasons in p-code order, it certainly will piss a lot of people off (i.e. Simpsons fans who don't know all the p-codes, i.e. ME).

[Butters]

Thought this thread needed bumping before it goes onto Page 2.

Only thing I can think to say is that C4 are starting to air Season 3 (my favourite) tonight.

Uh, wasn't that a fun bump, people?

[matt228]

Thought this thread needed bumping before it goes onto Page 2.

Only thing I can think to say is that C4 are starting to air Season 3 (my favourite) tonight.

Uh, wasn't that a fun bump, people?
It's page 13...
What does 'bump' and 'bumping' mean?

Season 3...fine, just get to S11 so I can tape it! And S4 and S5 cos they are best out of C4's choice.

[Butters]

No, I meant Page 2 in the "General Discussion" forum. (oh, thanks to this post Page 14 in this thread, now)

"Bump"/"Bumping" means to post in a thread that hasn't had any replies in a few days.

[Rich Uncle Skeleton]

Not much has been said about the Simpsons A-Z on Sky One. So here are the episodes shown so far, with what the letter stood for:

A: Accidents
Brake My Wife, Please
A: Apu
The Sweetest Apu
B: Bart
Barting Over
B: Burns
The Trouble With Trillions
C: Chief Wiggum
The Simpsons Spin-off Showcase
C: Couch gags
The Ziff Who Came To Dinner

Tomorrow is D, with the episodes Helter Shelter, Jaws Wired Shut, Old Yeller-Belly and Mountain Of Madness. Not sure what these are gonna stand for, but judging by the episodes it's likely that at least one of them will be Disaster or Danger. Any thoughts?

[Butters]

Tomorrow is D, with the episodes Helter Shelter, Jaws Wired Shut, Old Yeller-Belly and Mountain Of Madness. Not sure what these are gonna stand for, but judging by the episodes it's likely that at least one of them will be Disaster or Danger. Any thoughts?
DABF production code... :p

I'd say disaster will be Mountain of Madness. Uh, maybe disability for Jaws Wired Shut. Dog is pretty much obvious for Old Yeller Belly. Dunno about Helter Shelter though.

[matt228]

Not much has been said about the Simpsons A-Z on Sky One. So here are the episodes shown so far, with what the letter stood for:

A: Accidents
Brake My Wife, Please
A: Apu
The Sweetest Apu
B: Bart
Barting Over
B: Burns
The Trouble With Trillions
C: Chief Wiggum
The Simpsons Spin-off Showcase
C: Couch gags
The Ziff Who Came To Dinner

Tomorrow is D, with the episodes Helter Shelter, Jaws Wired Shut, Old Yeller-Belly and Mountain Of Madness. Not sure what these are gonna stand for, but judging by the episodes it's likely that at least one of them will be Disaster or Danger. Any thoughts?
Get the TV Guide What's On TV and it tells you in brackets after each episode the letter and what it stands for. I don't really care, it is just a gimmick. However, last night I saw The Trouble With Trillions for the first time EVER! I give it an A-.

[Rowdy Roddy Peeper]

'Helter Shelter', i'm pretty sure it's D for Dreadful

[Mario]

Maybe the D will stan for Drama because they go on TV and it's dramatic and...
I'll be quiet now.

[matt228]

Helter Shelter - D is for "Destroyed"
Jaws Wired Shut - D is for "D'oh!"
Old Yeller-Belly - D is for "Dog"
Mountain Of Madness - D is for "Disaster"
Not 100% sure of Helter Shelter and Mountain of Madness.

[JonHillier]

Isn't there a donkey in Jaws Wired Shut. Awful reference, but pretty much the only other thing I could think of for "D" :S It's pretty much a mystery to me.

Also, tommorow's episodes (E) are:
Bart the Genius
Sweets and Sour Marge

[George Cauldron]

For Exam and....Fat?

[Butters]

Extremely fat, perhaps?

[Mario]

Helter shelter: D is for Disco Stu! WTF does Helter Shelter have to do with Disco Stu!?
homer228 was righ about Jaws Wired Shut. D is for "D'oh!"
Old Yeller Belly-D is for "Duff Beer"
Mountain of Madness-D for "Disasters."

[snrub]

EDIT - Ignore me

[Rowdy Roddy Peeper]

EDIT - Ignore me You didn't have to tell us, we are used to you. :)

Since i actually watched he episodes tonight, i'd thought i'll rate them just for good measure.
'Helter Shelter' - 2/5
'Jaws Wired Shut' - 4/5
'Old Yeller-Belly' - 3.5/5
'Moutain Of Madness' - 4/5

The two middle ones seemed to of gotten better since i last saw them. What does everybody else think. Also, the onyl possibly reference i could work out for Disco Stu in 'Helter Shelter' was that they got Squiggy from a 70's sitcom, and well Disco Stu is meant to be a 70's guy. If not then i'm sure they will be some more wacky theorie's to follow.

[Rich Uncle Skeleton]

I thought Disco Stu does appear in Helter Shelter? I didn't watch the episode tonight because...well, it's terrible. But I seem to rememebr a reference. Maybe it was cut on Sky; sounds like something they'd do! ;)

Also they were wrong about Jaws Wired Shut being the only episode to have D'oh written down, it was inscribed on Lisa's sax, in...Lisa's Sax.

Bart the Genius could be E for Education or Exam. Can't think of any characters beginning with E. King-Size Homer is on F so that'll be Fat I guess...

[JonHillier]

Thing is, sky programming isn't done by simpsons fans, so any reference they can think of whether it's relevant or not to the story, gets used. It doesn't surprise me therefore, that some of the episodes have little/no reference to the letter

But yeah, I would anticipate Bart the Genius being Education, but the Sweets and Sour Marge has gotta be an odd one.

[Nameless]

Channel 4 has The Great Money Caper on tonight...*shudders*

[George Cauldron]

I read a TV guide yesterday. Apparently Sweets And Sour Marge comes under E for Eating. Now we know.

[Simpsons Forever!]

The Great Money Caper is one of the worst episodes of the Season! I'll still watch it, though, because I've only seen it once.

[George Cauldron]

Interesting fact - every episode Channel Four has premiered from Season 12, (except Treehouse of Horror XI) has aired exactly four years after it did in the States. For example, today's episode The Great Money Caper aired on the 10th December 2000 in the USA. On the 10th December 2004, it airs here on terrestrial TV.

[Butters]

E could be for Eating in Sweets and Sours Marge.

That is actually a very interesting fact George, as a prize I will give you the advice my father gave to me when I turned 13 : "You're an arsehole and I hope to never see you again." ... this were his exact words.

And Disco Stu never appeared at all in Helter Shelter... Sky are fucking idiots.

[No1]

Thing is, sky programming isn't done by simpsons fans,


I wouldn't go along with that. They hardly ever show the very early seasons or the Mike Scully debacle. Therefore I can only assume they "get" the shows appeal, and know when it was working and when it was not.Thus they are fans.

[George Cauldron]

I wouldn't go along with that. They hardly ever show the very early seasons or the Mike Scully debacle. Therefore I can only assume they "get" the shows appeal, and know when it was working and when it was not.Thus they are fans.

Those are the seasons that they don't have the rights to. That's why they're not showing them.

[No1]

Lucky for us then I guess ;)

[matt228]

What was wrong with The Great Money Caper, I ask? A+

[Drunk Barney]

Ive never seen it. So I shall look forward 2 seeing it tonght. Why is it sooo good then Homer

[Nameless]

What was wrong with The Great Money Caper, I ask? A+
The ending, the ending, THE ENDING. It shot Money Caper's balloon down a long way.

[Butters]

That and abysmal characters. I mean, Homer treat Bart like a pile of dog crap in act one.

[Nameless]

That and abysmal characters. I mean, Homer treat Bart like a pile of dog crap in act one.
Oh, yeah, that too.

[matt228]

Ive never seen it. So I shall look forward 2 seeing it tonght. Why is it sooo good then Homer
It's just hilarious start to stop!


And Disco Stu never appeared at all in Helter Shelter... Sky are fucking idiots.
They may have put Disco Stu because DABF production line looked stupid... :D

[Drunk Barney]

Well I shall found out tonight!

[simplysimpsons]

First time seeing that episode (Great Money Caper). It was pretty good! A few things I didn't like: Marge's characterisation for the most part - too stupid. The surfing ending - FAR too random. I would have also preferred another ending apart from the setup thing. I didn't like Homer leaving Bart like that either or a few other gags. However, a lot of it worked. The gags, for the most part were funny. The plot was good if a little disjointed.*slightly* underrated, imo. B-, 3/5.

[George Cauldron]

While my opinion of The Computer Wore Menace Shoes improved on last week's viewing, The Great Money Caper's rating for me, stayed very much the same. It was still a bad episode.

[Blythy]

[Drunk Barney]

I`ve started a thread about it in the voting booth in anyone cares...

I`m with SimplySimpsons on this one. It was OK but there were a lot of things wrong with it as he has stated. Though I think my opinion is a little worse than his on the epsiode. As I say see the voting booth...

[Nameless]

Well, that certainly added much to our conversation.

[Butters]

After a second viewing, I've got to say I agree with SimplySimpsons on The Great Money Caper. The ending, Marge constantly being drunk, Homer leaving Bart and all the "chlorofoam" moments (what? did Scully like plugging chlorofoam or something?) were terrible, but other than that I did laugh quite a lot. Random line I liked:
Homer: Dog for sale! Dog for sale!
Hibbert: How much for the dog?
Homer: Oh, he's not for sale.
Hibbert: Guh!
Homer:\Although ... if the right offer came along....

Another thing, how come Hibbert, or anyone else, notice that it was Bart and Homer. Hibbert's been the doctor for years and he was pretty stupid not noticing it was Homer in disguise. Then again, the entire episode was a set-up...

[Rich Uncle Skeleton]

What was wrong with The Great Money Caper, I ask? A+
My review I wrote after the episode aired (not particularly well-written) is at:
http://www.simpsoncrazy.com/opinion/user_reviews.php?episode=CABF03

I can't see anything right with the episode. There are one or two funny moments, as with all Simpsons episodes, but the plot and particularly the ending suck totally, and many parts are rehashings of old plots/jokes.


Another thing, how come Hibbert, or anyone else, notice that it was Bart and Homer. Hibbert's been the doctor for years and he was pretty stupid not noticing it was Homer in disguise. Then again, the entire episode was a set-up...
I agree. The show is pretty inconsistent when it comes to which characters the Simpsons know. In some episodes they know everyone, in some they don't seem to know the same characters.
A good example is My Big Fat Geek Wedding. Skinner doesn't really know Homer, yet they're at the bachelor party together. And they invited CBG to the wedding, yet Edna doesn't seem to know him when she returns his present. I guess he could be Skinner's friend, since he dated Skinner's mother in Worst Episode Ever...

[Drunk Barney]

Wezzo has updated the TV guide. C4 will be showing 2 episodes on xmas including Mr Plow. One Friday there will be 2 Simpsons episodes due to there will be a week where there wont be one (I think)

[Puny Human 354]

Just wanted to post about an a large ad I saw in London the other day for the show, had Bart writing on a chalk board "I will not fast track visa applications"

It cracked me up that they had such a good marketing technique

[JonHillier]

Any chance of a photo? That would be brilliant!

[Rich Uncle Skeleton]

What did the episodes tonight represent in the A-Z?
King-Size Homer was Fat and The Dad Who Knew Too Little was Family, but I missed the other two intros (Little Girl In The Big Ten and Treehouse Of Horror VIII).

[H Thompson]

LGITBT= family
TOHVIII= fear.

Just look ahead on the Sky digital planner.

[Butters]

LGITBT was actually "friends".

[H Thompson]

That's what I meant.

[matt228]

Wezzo has updated the TV guide. C4 will be showing 2 episodes on xmas including Mr Plow. One Friday there will be 2 Simpsons episodes due to there will be a week where there wont be one (I think)
The 2 new episodes are actually on TUESDAY 28TH DECEMBER. Wezzo made an error, but I emailed him about it and confirmed it from In4mer.

Here is the following week's C4 schedule (to Sunday):
Channel 4
Channel 4 are airing S3 in order weekdays at 6pm, and new to terrestrial S12 on Fridays at 9pm.
12-Dec 18:00 CABF03 The Great Money Caper (rpt from Friday)
13-Dec 18:00 8F03 Bart The Murderer
14-Dec 18:00 8F04 Homer: Defined
15-Dec 18:00 8F05 Like Father, Like Clown
16-Dec 18:00 8F02 Treehouse Of Horror II
17-Dec 18:00 8F06 Lisa's Pony
17-Dec 21:00 CABF06 *NEW* - Skinner's Sense Of Snow
19-Dec 17:30 CABF06 Skinner's Sense Of Snow (rpt from Friday)

Sky One tonight:
18:00 DABF09 The Old Man and the Key (G is for Grampa)
18:30 FABF22 *NEW*- She Used To Be My Girl
19:00 4F11 Homer's Phobia (G is for Gay)
19:30 DABF06 The Bart Wants What It Wants (G is for Girlfriends)

Here's something interesting:
Sky One New Episodes: (times in BST)
Sunday, 12th December 2004 - 6:30pm - She Used To Be My Girl
Sunday, 9th January 2005 - 6:30pm - Fat Man And Little Boy
FOX USA New Episodes (times in EST)
Sunday, 12th December 2004 - 7:30pm - Fat Man And Little Boy

She Used To Be My Girl airs 1 week after FOX.
Fat Man And Little Boy airs 4 weeks after FOX, but, FOX are not airing any new episodes until 9th January, the same day Fat Man And Little Boy airs in the UK. This means that, since on 9th January the UK will once again be only ONE episode behind FOX, we can expect Sky One to air the episode following Fat Man And Little Boy (which airs on FOX on 9th January) on 16th January.

[Butters]

She Used To Be My Girl could be a G for "Greatly disappointing".

I still don't get why they don't switch Skinner's Sense of Snow and HomR around... it would make much more sense...

EDIT: Cut from She Used To Be My Girl:
(In the Springfield Press Club)
Lisa : (gasp) There's Dan Rather and Tom Brokaw hanging out with Kent Brockman.
Rather : You want your mike back, local Anchor?
Kent : This just in: I'm pissed off!
Chloe : Hi, fellas.
Rather : Chloe, wanna feel my muscle? Heh heh.
(Cut to Homer and Marge's bedroom.)
Marge : Chloe has such an amazing life...

[JonHillier]

Or "Generally Good". But yeah, it was kind of a disapointing episode in comparison to the rest of the season. I still thought it was pretty good though. I'd give it a B.

[Rowdy Roddy Peeper]

New C4 Episode:
Finally got round to seeing 'The Great Money Caper' again. I actually generally thought the episode was shaping up to be a very very good Season 12 episode. With very funny jokes aplenty it seemed surely it would get at least 4.5/5. However, just like last week with 'Computer Who Wore Mance Shoes', the ending was a cop out ending which sucked and completely ruined the story. It doesn't take a genius to figure out a decent enough ending to the episode. Why couldn't they just end it like this: After Willie is put in jail, Homer realises he must do something to prevent Willie spending his life in prison. So Homer and Bart go to the Prison and somehow con the police into letting Willie out, and all is back to normal. It wasn't hard was it? That took me the entire credits to think of!
Tut tut! 3.5/5

New Sky One Episode:
My memory of this episode is a little hazy for me (Hazy? Like the moors of Scotland?) since my mum just happened to hoover the living room out at 6.30pm on the dot. However, i have got it on tape, and will re-watch later tonight if i have time. However, what i did manage to hear and understand seemed pretty good. However, i think there was a few too many swears and sex in the episode, like the penis line, the pity sex, bouncing helicopter, the 5 sec montages of getting off and the piss line. However, thank God Sky One were making sure it was suitable for the 6.30pm audience, by getting rid of piss, which was one of the most suitable of the ones mentioned above. The onyl main other joke i got frustrated with was probably the weird balck eye remover joke whcih lasted a never ending 7 seconds. However, the episode did feel fresh and good overall, and the characterisation seemed spot on apart from possibly Homer's obsession with strangling Bart (The first joke about it was good, but the rest seemed almost cringeworthy). I'm gonna rate it between 3.5/5 and 4/5 at the moment but that might change when re-watched.

[matt228]

Just found out, that Homer's Phobia was G for Barney Gumble, not Gay. Gay makes more sense though...Dumbass Sky...

They aren't switching Skinner's Sense of Snow (airing Friday 17th at 9) with HOMR (airing Tuesday 28th at 9, before Pokey Mom at 9:30 - this is because there are no Friday at 9 episodes on Friday 24th or Friday 31st), because there isn't much difference between airing it 8 days before Christmas and 3 days after - if you want it seasonally, then they should air it on Christmas Day!

If you want seasonal Simpsons this Christmas on C4, then you can always watch Skinner's Sense of Snow on Friday 17th at 9, and watch Grift of the Magi on Friday 24th at 6.

Now, seeing as earlier you were worrying about missing The Simpsons Christmas Message, if you haven't already found out, I'll be the first to tell you that it airs 5 times on Christmas Day. Here's the Christmas schedule again:
25-Dec 15:00 The Simpsons Christmas Message
25-Dec 15:05 8F10 I Married Marge
25-Dec 15:35 9F07 Mr. Plow
25-Dec 16:05 The Simpsons Christmas Message
25-Dec 18:10 The Simpsons Christmas Message
25-Dec 20:25 The Simpsons Christmas Message
25-Dec 22:35 The Simpsons Christmas Message

[Rowdy Roddy Peeper]

What happens if we miss them? C4 should at least repeat it a bit more.

[George Cauldron]

Good to see the Christmas message is repeated at various points in the day since I most likely won't be watching TV at 3pm, and if I do, it'll be to see Her Royal Highness.

[matt228]

Good to see the Christmas message is repeated at various points in the day since I most likely won't be watching TV at 3pm, and if I do, it'll be to see Her Royal Highness.
I've never actually seen the Queen's message. I think I'll watch it at 3pm, then watch the Simpsons on at 4:05.

[No1]

Pah, why bother, all the usual yap about selfless charity workers and Christmas being a "time of contemplation"

*slips into a coma*

[matt228]

Pah, why bother, all the usual yap about selfless charity workers and Christmas being a "time of contemplation"

*slips into a coma*
Because - I've never seen it before.

Which is better? BBC or ITV - no ads or breaking inbetween her saying two words? :D
I know, I know, it's only 5 mins so there will be NO ads...

[Drunk Barney]

Has anyone noticed how short the ads were Today and Tuesday. Only about 2 mins but finished about 6.24ish. Much better.

Anyway SkyOne are having an hour documentry on the voice of Lisa Simpsons (Y Smith) from 8-9 on Thursday the 30th of January. Got this from the TV Choice . Should be good

Does anyone know what this Xmas message is about?

[H Thompson]

Really a random documentary on her, maybe it'll be part of a series because its odd they would pick her.

[david195]

There's no official description of the Christmas message. From what I can gather from the various TV guides Marge will be doing her own five minute speech to the UK about family values and Christmas in general. Homer gets confused as usual and Lisa campaigns for Cornwall's independence. I'm assuming that Bart and Maggie will come in to it as well somehow.

[Rowdy Roddy Peeper]

I've seen a shot clip for it and it goes soemthing like this:

Marge: Here is my husband Homer, dressing up as Father Christmas

Homer: Hey, i thought i was supposed to be Santa Claus?

Thats all i've seen so far. Looking forwrad to it.

[Simpsons Forever!]

Where did you see that?

[Rowdy Roddy Peeper]

It was on an advert for Channel 4's upcoming Christmas televsion. Trust me it's true. It seemed to be set in the Simpsons kitchen for that scene aswell.

[Rich Uncle Skeleton]

If anyone's interested, I've created a page for the Simpsons A-Z thing at Simpson Crazy (http://www.simpsoncrazy.com/information/articles/a-z.shtml). It's pretty much only a list of episodes and what they stood for, but will stay up permanently for reference, as the Golden D'ohnut Awards (http://www.simpsoncrazy.com/information/articles/dohnut.shtml) page has.

Also, how come they didn't do the A-Z thing tonight? There were no introductions or clips for the episodes...anyone know what Grade School Confidental was supposed to represent tonight? It didn't say in the Sky guide for some reason ("L for Lisa" was on the other one though).

[Rowdy Roddy Peeper]

A total guess would be L for Love, but i doubt that is any use. All the A through M episodes are shown on December 31st if you wanna try that again.

Anyway, tonight's C4 episode:

'Skinners Sense Of Snow'

Best of the Season so far. Maybe it's because i've seen it tons of times on Sky, but it felt like a really good Sringfield Elementry kids episode. Much better than the more recent attempt 'Bart Vs. Lisa Vs. The Third Grade'. I overall felt the episode was very funny, with the only main gripe is being the sub-plot of Homer and Ned, which i felt could of been better. Especially that bloody annoying Lisa/Moose thing. HOINK! not needed!

But overall: 4/5

Off topic, but you have a very good website there Scottvivien. Very good layout and very good amount of interesting content, especially the scripts/images and Lists (Noticed in the list of 'jumping out of window' you missed the waiter falling out of the window in 'The Boy Who Knew Too Much' and Homer when he forgets something in one of the episodes, he runs upstairs and falls out of the window.)

Anyhoo, what did everybody else think of tonight's episode?

[Butters]

Great list there, Scott. ;)

I give Skinner's Sense of Snow a 2/5. Some pretty abysmal moments, the only redeeming feature is the lame movie Skinner showed the kids. Lisa turning into the camel (at least I think it was a camel) at the end was just down right awful.

[Drunk Barney]

I gave it 4. I really think this is good. It could of been much better. Some of the jokes were poor, Skinner was mean and all the characters seemed to follow each other at times. Maybe it needed to be more like Das Bus, type characters. But other from that I thought it was a very good FUNNY episode. The ending didnt bother me. But Lisa saying Merry Xmas was odd as The Simpsons is a cartoon and there not meant to think there doing it for TV if you know what I mean!

[Rich Uncle Skeleton]

Off topic, but you have a very good website there Scottvivien. Very good layout and very good amount of interesting content, especially the scripts/images and Lists (Noticed in the list of 'jumping out of window' you missed the waiter falling out of the window in 'The Boy Who Knew Too Much' and Homer when he forgets something in one of the episodes, he runs upstairs and falls out of the window.)
Oh yeah, I think someone told me about the waiter one before, I must've forgot to add it. I'm gonna go through and update all the lists soon, so I'll add it in. Thanks for the input!

[Surly Duff]

Bleh, I thought Sky had restored all the season 7/8 cuts (except the b word in the Poochie ep), why are they still running the watered down fight scene at the end of the pretzel wagon episode? :(

edit - also, said pretzel ep was M for Maggie? She's barely in it!

[Butters]

I think they might've meant M for Marge... more likely, but probably a mistake they made.

Oh, and is that mob war still cut? Thanks for this information, I assumed that most the old cuts were gone.

While I'm talking about old cuts, are all the Irish references (minus Homer's impression) intact at the start of Homer vs. the 18th Ammendment. The only one I remember being cut is the English Fish Shop being blown up, as the crowd cheers and starts rioting. I really should sit down and watch Sky more...

[matt228]

If anyone's interested, I've created a page for the Simpsons A-Z thing at Simpson Crazy (http://www.simpsoncrazy.com/information/articles/a-z.shtml). It's pretty much only a list of episodes and what they stood for, but will stay up permanently for reference, as the Golden D'ohnut Awards (http://www.simpsoncrazy.com/information/articles/dohnut.shtml) page has.

It's good, but if you used www.skyprogrammeinformation.co.uk for the episode listings for Sky One, you'd know what the letters stood for.

[Simpsons Forever!]

Apparently, in the Xmas speech, Marge will mock David Beckham (see simpsonschannel.com). Also, this BBC article mentions it, showing what could be a new promo - Marge with holly in her hair and candy cane earrings.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/tv_and_radio/4075579.stm

[George Cauldron]

Yep, definitely a promo - I've seen it in so many magazines, you wouldn't believe it.

[Drunk Barney]

I really am wondering what this is gonna be about.

Just a happy xmas thing. Should be funny...I suppose. Will it be the whole family type thing?. Or will Granpa be in it, I wonder...

[matt228]

Heh-heh...This is an ICT lesson at school - we get to do whatever we like on the computers except some games sites - and what do I bloody go on? SNPP, Simpsorama (see if my update is there), NHC. And Maroon5 to listen to music, but I do that every lesson. :D

Anyway, on Simpsons-related news, the SNPP's DVD and Movie News pages have been updated. The Movie News doesn't seem to have anything added.

I'll post later with all the DVD News, but my teacher is kicking me off now.

[H Thompson]

Your still at school???

[Butters]

Your still at school???
I am. My school doesn't break up until Friday. And then we only have like 3 days off. Doesn't that suck donkey balls?

[matt228]

I break up from school tomorrow (Tuesday 21st December 2004) at 2:30pm, and I go back on Thursday 6th January 2005.
Butters goes to a terrible school. He has no half-term holidays either.

When you said "Your still at school???" - you meant before Christmas right, you didn't think I was over 16? I'm 13 by the way!

[H Thompson]

Yes I meant before christmas, don't worry your not coming across as mature as a 16 year old.

Anyway some slightly worrying news, the Sky magazine makes no mention of a new episode on the 9th january, nor on any date in january until the 30th.

[JonHillier]

I am. My school doesn't break up until Friday. And then we only have like 3 days off. Doesn't that suck donkey balls?

I break up on Tuesday. Which is annoying. I'm used to saturday morning school and as such, breaking up for Christmas late November - no such luck this year though - thanks, ofsted.

[Simpsons Forever!]

Butters, you start hols on Xmas Eve? I didn't think schools could be open then.

[matt228]

2 episodes on C4 tonight (as yesterday and tomorrow).

My latest Simpsorama update should be online by today. Butters said he would upload it about 8 last night.

[Nameless]

And the two episodes have just aired. *pats VCR*

[matt228]

And the two episodes have just aired. *pats VCR*
You don't have S3 on DVD?????

By the way, if anyone's interested, my episode rankings (best to worst in complete list!) is almost half-way ready. I'm going to start adding S8 to the list tomorrow (then obviously S9, S10...I've done S1-S7). My episode ratings are on their way too, but only a few episodes.

[Nameless]

You don't have S3 on DVD?????

By the way, if anyone's interested, my episode rankings (best to worst in complete list!) is almost half-way ready. I'm going to start adding S8 to the list tomorrow (then obviously