Help me win a Phil Hughes signed baseball please

[PeterGriffin525]

go to

http://z11.invisionfree.com/Philip_Hughes_Fan_Fo/index.php?showtopic=42&st=60&#entry154589

register and make a post in that thread that says

metsfan referred me

thanks guys

[Mike]

wow, this guy seems pretty egotistical

http://www.philiphughes.net/bio.html

not to mention the whole... making a website about himself for people to talk about how great he is.

[brad]

why dont you just pay him the $5 and get the autograph

[Homer Jay]

wow, this guy seems pretty egotistical

http://www.philiphughes.net/bio.html

not to mention the whole... making a website about himself for people to talk about how great he is.
What you haven't heard that Hughes is the best pitcher to come to majors since Clemens

[Dead Nigga Storage]

i would laugh my fucking ass off if the guy turns into a bust.

[Homer Jay]

I don't want him to be a bust. I want him to be called up and suck for like a month so the Yankees trade him for Ted Lilly and then have him turn out to be every bit as good as I think he will be

[Dead Nigga Storage]

the yankees wouldn't trade him over a slow start, and if he's as egotistical as the page looks, then fuck'em...i'd rather just he never be good...unless the angels or mets get him.

[kevin]

i hope he becomes the ryan leaf of baseball. baseball needs a ryan leaf.

[Dead Nigga Storage]

with the way the MLB draft is, it's harder for there to be a ryan leaf in baseball, but if there is one, it's matt bush.

[Mike]

but seriously like you'd think the yankees would have found this and told him nto to be such a faggot.

[brad]

Lots of guys have dumb official sites.

[Dead Nigga Storage]

yeah, but "lots of guys" don't play for steinbrennar, the "anti-faggotry" man.

[Dewey Finn]

go to

http://z11.invisionfree.com/Philip_Hughes_Fan_Fo/index.php?showtopic=42&st=60&#entry154589

register and make a post in that thread that says

metsfan referred me

thanks guys

I joined there yesterday.. hahaha

He also hangs around in Beckett card site forums. Actually, I don't know if Hughes will be big as Clemens (Giambi said that Hughes will be next coming of Clemens though), but he'll be in Yankee rotation by 2008 unless something bad happens like you guys put voodoo curse.

wow, this guy seems pretty egotistical

Hmmm well he's sayin that he's donating the money to NYC charity. If he breaks the promise, I'm calling him egotistical.

Oh, and Matt Bush didn't even pass high A level I believe

[Dead Nigga Storage]

OMG I'M SO HURT. our phillip-hughes equivalent is already in the majors with an 11-2 record and a 2.52ERA. and then the next phillip hughes in the angels' system was nick adenhart, who is younger than me (just turned 20) and was 10-2 with a 1.96ERA before his promotion this year. or maybe you want to shit on the other angels young guys? 16 game winner ervin santana? maybe joe saunders? or how about 19 year old tommy mendoza, who has one of (if not the best) fastball in single-A baseball, and is already a top-100 baseball america prospect? you're taking shots at the wrong farm system, man. the angels have a guy just as capable of being as good as hughes (weaver), and then about a billion others right behind him or already in the majors. i'd take a backloaded farm system of 7-8 big league capable pitchers over one guy any day. go home.

[Homer Jay]

What the hell the Bush insult supposed to mean? The MLB draft is a total crapshoot.

[Dead Nigga Storage]

what did i say right before that, HJ? i said you can't compare the two, but if you WANT to pick a "ryan leaf" from the bunch, he's the one. and the MLB isn't a total crapshoot, or even close. if you have fucking scouts who know how to make picks and know how to draft, then you'll do just fine. of course there are a ton of busts because of the thousands that are drafted each year, but for the most part, you do have some idea of who will turn out all right. since 1990, first overalls have included: chipper jones, phil nevin, alex rodriguez, darin erstad, kris benson, pat burrell, adrian gonzalez, joe mauer, delmon young, and justin upton. it remains to be seen on the last two (although young has made it and shown every reason to have faith in his abilities), but it looks to me like that wasn't just some kind of "crapshoot". bush is one of the first overalls that DIDN'T make my little list above because he was just an ungodly bust. suspensions, fights, the fact that he was taken over drew or weaver, injuries, and the .221BA when he has played. that's pretty much as bad as it gets.

but please, let's talk about how we can help some guy get a baseball card autograph or something or nother.

[kevin]

well to be fair the padres didn't think they could sign weaver... and bush is still only 20 years old...so there is hope, maybe.

[Dewey Finn]

What the hell the Bush insult supposed to mean? The MLB draft is a total crapshoot.
Matt Bush was overall #1 pick of 2004 drafted and was once compared to Jeter. Expectations were high then. Now he'll be lucky to be in starting lineup in MLB.

10-2 with a 1.96ERA

That's Adenhart's low-A record (you cannot judge a low-A record to double A record in this point), DNS. Hughes has same age as Adenhart and posted 10-3, 2.25 record in AA (two levels above low-A). I'm not saying Angels pitching prospects suck, but no one expect for Weaver (he's in MLB now...) in Angels pitching farm can outmatch Hughes right now, that's what I'm saying. And about Tommy Mendoza, I know he's a good prospect as seeing his good record from 2005, but he posted 4.00+ERA in high-A this year. Not even close to what Hughes did in double A. And I'm talking about players who DIDN'T make MLB so far

Well, I already know Angels kick other AL teams in hitting prospects.

[Dead Nigga Storage]

OMG, HE'S IN THE LOW-A BALL?

dude, he was supposed to be a first overall pick before he blew out his elbow. he's living up to the hype. what would you rather he do in the minors to prove his worth? go 0-14 with a 9.00ERA? he can't do better than he is, and he's doing exactly what he's supposed to. don't soil yourself over double-A records if you're not gonna regard low or high-A ball either, because the biggest hurdle is and always has been triple-A. my point is obvious: it's asinine to say "well, the angels don't have anyone to match hughes", despite the fact that their version of hughes has already cracked the majors, and they have plenty of depth right behind him. ask anyone with a brain which group of pitchers they'd rather have (mendoza, saunders, santana, weaver, and adenhart), or just hughes. and the angels don't just kick AL teams in hitting prospects, they kick all of MLB around in hitting prospects. and they certainly kick around the yankees in pitching prospects, too. i didn't even mention steven shell (stumbled in triple-A, but is still 22 and was fantastic at lower levels), jose arredondo (2.53ERA, 115Ks in 90 innings in high-A at age 21-22), or felipe arrendondo (19 years old in rookie ball with a 97MPH heater, 5-2, 2.20ERA). you can shit on their level of play all you want, but double-A isn't exactly the pinnacle of baseball either. these guys would have as much hype as hughes when he was selected if they were over there in new york with a media to overglorify the hell out of them, but instead they quietly dominate in the minors. fuck phillip hughes and his hype, because i'd take our pitching over your's anyday, especially since our rotation is stacked right now as is.

[Homer Jay]

what did i say right before that, HJ? i said you can't compare the two, but if you WANT to pick a "ryan leaf" from the bunch, he's the one. and the MLB isn't a total crapshoot, or even close. if you have fucking scouts who know how to make picks and know how to draft, then you'll do just fine. of course there are a ton of busts because of the thousands that are drafted each year, but for the most part, you do have some idea of who will turn out all right. since 1990, first overalls have included: chipper jones, phil nevin, alex rodriguez, darin erstad, kris benson, pat burrell, adrian gonzalez, joe mauer, delmon young, and justin upton. it remains to be seen on the last two (although young has made it and shown every reason to have faith in his abilities), but it looks to me like that wasn't just some kind of "crapshoot". bush is one of the first overalls that DIDN'T make my little list above because he was just an ungodly bust. suspensions, fights, the fact that he was taken over drew or weaver, injuries, and the .221BA when he has played. that's pretty much as bad as it gets.
He will probably go down as one of the two worst number one picks in the draft along with Brien Taylor. But he wasn't the best player in the draft, or anywhere close. He was picked because the Padres because they thought that they couldn't sign Weaver or Drew, and they wanted a local kid. A team is supposed to be able to count on the first pick being at least a solid contributer, but Bush wasn't. Most drafts don't have sure things, even Griffey and ARod were regarded as the best player by everyone going into the draft. If the team has to reach like the Padres did then the risk of a bust increases. The fact is that less than 2/3 of first round picks make the big leagues, but there is no certainty that a specific pick will make it. Bush will probably join Taylor as the second first overall not to make it.

EDIT: I forgot about Josh Hamilton who was an even worse pick considering that he was on par with Young and Upton coming out of high school

[Mike]

Lots of guys have dumb official sites.
sure, but all the ones i've been so far have just been ones to allow fans to know more about them, and just seem more approachable fan friendly blah blah. not having a page talking about how you dominated, and blew away all these hitters.

not to mention a forum. ALL PHIL HUGHES TALK GOES HERE.

[Dead Nigga Storage]

Bush will probably join Taylor as the second first overall not to make it.yeah, and thus the ryan leaf crack at him. if you're one of two to never make it, then you get the ryan leaf stamp of shit. the baseball draft is less a crapshoot than it is given credit for being, but the reason it's considered as such at all is because there are so many stages of development, and many more guys are grabbed right out of high school or in the middle of college, and because there are so many different raw tools that need to be tweaked to just the right level. all it takes though is a good scout with an eye for talent. that's why some teams do so well with drafts/F.A. signings, and others just end up blowing big time. i'd rather have drafted weaver and had trouble signing him (angels did manage to sign him in the 11th hour), then to have made a reach like S.D. did. it was a dumb move.

[Homer Jay]

High school prospects are notoriously difficult to predict. Todd Van Poppel was supposed to be the best high school player ever, a can't-miss prospect and he did just that. I remember looking at an article in BA about the best high school prospects of the past 20 years and like a third didn't make the major and another three including Van Poppel and Rick Ankiel. I think a better comparison to Ryan Leaf would be someone from the top of the prospect list because of the difference between the two leagues. Someone like Paul Wilson or Ben McDonald might be what you can hope for out of Hughes

[Dead Nigga Storage]

you're such a pessimist! paul wilson is still active in the majors and is 33 years young. he can break out any time. 11-6, 4.36ERA in 2004 is progress, baby!

[Homer Jay]

Remember like ten years ago when Bill Pulsipher, Jason Isringhausen and Paul Wilson were supposed to be the next Seaver, Ryan and Koosman?

[Dead Nigga Storage]

i wish i didn't remember :(

[Dewey Finn]

Ben McDonald was 22nd rounder and was not that bad in Majors. He had 3 or 4 good seasons but I guess he didn't reach fans' expectations.

Todd Van Poppel had crap minor league numbers. I do see Wilson had great minor league numbers before he was injured (reason why Yankee front office let Hughes throw only 5 innings per start in AA). Bill Pulsipher would be good example of pitcher who had great minor league numbers and failed miserably in MLB, but I don't see Hughes becoming like that.

I don't think it's likely for Wilson to break out with his 91mph fastball (at maximum), DNS, unless if you were sarcastic.

[Dead Nigga Storage]

of course i was sarcastic. and ben mcdonald was a first overall pick. he was picked in the 27th round one year, then went to college, re-entered the draft, and was picked first overall.

[Homer Jay]

To add to what DNS wrote. McDonald had all the hype of Prior plus some. He was the most dominating pitcher in college baseball and was the best player on the team that won the gold medal in 1988

[brad]

Remember when Matt Bush got arrested the week he got drafted?

Awesome start, bro.

[:bang:]

kris benson gets a :(

[Dead Nigga Storage]

kris benson's wife gets a :hump:

[kevin]

*ex-wife now i believe

still, :buttsex:

[Dead Nigga Storage]

no, they're still married, and most likely still :hump:ing

[Homer Jay]

I don't get how people find her attractive. She's the Paris Hilton of pro athlete's wives

[Dead Nigga Storage]

get a penis, please.

[Mike]

paris hilton is actually at the unattractive stage. anna benson is at the "not the hottest supermodel but hot if you see her in the street" stage.

[Dead Nigga Storage]

this thread is ridiculous. seriously, how'd we get to anna benson again? dude just wanted an autographed baseball.