2006 National League Playoffs (Cardinals beat Mets) (finally)

[pat]

All discussion for the NL playoffs will be here. I'll update this first post with game scores as the NLCS goes on.


Championship Series
(3) St. Louis vs. (1) New York - St. Louis wins series, 4-3
Game 1: St. Louis 0, New York 2
W: Glavine (2-0), L: Weaver (1-1), S: Wagner (3)

Game 2: St. Louis 9, New York 6
W: Kinney (1-0), L: Wagner (0-1)

Game 3: New York 0, St. Louis 5
W: Suppan (1-1), L: Trachsel (0-1)

Game 4: New York 12, St. Louis 5
W: Perez (1-0), L: Thompson (0-1)

Game 5: New York 2, St. Louis 4
W: Weaver (2-1), L: Glavine (2-1), S: Wainwright (2)

Game 6: St. Louis 2, New York 4
W: Maine (1-0), L: Carpenter (2-1)

Game 7: St. Louis 3, New York 1
W: Flores (1-0), L: Heilman (0-1), S: Wainwright (3)


Division Series
(WC) Los Angeles vs. (1) New York - New York wins series, 3-0
Game 1: Los Angeles 5, New York 6
W: Mota (1-0), L: Penny (0-1), S: Wagner (1)

Game 2: Los Angeles 1, New York 4
W: Glavine (1-0), L: Kuo (0-1), S: Wagner (2)

Game 3: New York 9, Los Angeles 5
W: Feliciano (1-0), L: Broxton (0-1)



(3) St. Louis vs. (2) San Diego - St. Louis wins series, 3-1
Game 1: St. Louis 5, San Diego 1
W: Carpenter (1-0), L: Peavy (0-1)

Game 2: St. Louis 2, San Diego 0
W: Weaver (1-0), L: Wells (0-1), S: Wainwright (1)

Game 3: San Diego 3, St. Louis 1
W: Young (1-0), L: Suppan (0-1), S: Hoffman (1)

Game 4: San Diego 2, St. Louis 6
W: Carpenter (2-0), L: Williams (0-1)

[kuumuus]

:cricket:

mets will represent the NL well in the world series when they manage to win 1 whole game

[kevin]

yawn.

go padres, i guess

new york in four
san diego in four

[gravymaster]

These playoffs suck....go Padres :(

[pat]

new york in 4
san diego in 3

[doyle]

go dodgers.

mets and padres each in four.
mets in five.

[Mayor Quimby]

I'm gonna go with the Padres winning the National League. They have the best rotation in the NL. Padres will meet up with the Dodgers in the NLCS.

[EgoJudicata]

http://www.geocities.com/egojudicata/padscolbert.txt

[Brent]

Mets are going to win pennant but I'd prefer to see the Dodgers do it

[Woodrow]

I figured this site needed another Cardinals fan :D

[Rekart]

Dodgers, although I could see any of them winning it.

[Roarke]

twins over mets

...prove me wrong boys. prove me wrong.

[Homer Jay]

I think the Mets will win, although I'll be rooting for the Dodgers

[Jason]

Mets in 4
Padres in 4

[boogie down mikel]

mets in 5
padres in 4

mets in 6

[Dead Nigga Storage]

Anyone who thinks these playoffs are boring has too much AL bias. They are no worse than the snooze fest of the lame-duck Tigers against the free-spending Yankees, or the yawn inducing Athletics taking on the only exciting AL team in the playoffs, in the Twins.

At least you have 2 evenly balanced NLDS match-ups that can swing wildly either way. I'll be watching more of this series...at it's WORST, it's still as good as the ALDS. Enough with the JV shit...blah blah blah.

Mets in 5
Padres in 4

Mets in 5

[thecapecoddah]

go dodgers go

[Dead Nigga Storage]

i forgot to mention that the loss of pedro is the most overhyped news story going right now. not saying it isn't bad, but it's presence at the front of every media outlet is ridiculous.

[boogie down mikel]

heh i thought the most over hyped story was t.o.

i don't think the loss of pedro affects the mets as much as people say it will though

[vinceq]

Without the Braves bullpen blowing games, the NL playoffs having nothing worth watching.

[kuumuus]

twins over mets


truuuuuue

[Rekart]

I figured this site needed another Cardinals fan :D

That makes two.

[smyce]

Braves in 6...wait..

FUCK!

[tones]

new york in 4
san diego in 3


and mets in 6

[D DEBBS]

This is in memory of my mother, who would have been 74 years old today:

GO PADRES!

KEEP THE FAITH!

[Dewey Finn]

http://newyork.mets.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/article.jsp?ymd=20061003&content_id=1696844&vkey=news_nym&fext=.jsp&c_id=nym

Duque to have MRI. If it's bad, it's a huge blow for Mets

Here's my prediction

Dodgers in 5
Pads in 4

Dodgers in 7

[pat]

weren't the mets only going to go with a three man rotation in this series? that's a huge blow to the mets if el duque won't be able to pitch tomorrow, which is looking like the case.

so who would they turn to to pitch game one, john maine? can't think of anyone else since glavine would be on short rest and trachsel had a family matter to attend to and probably won't be available tomorrow.

[Dead Nigga Storage]

man, nothing sucks more than losing out early in the playoffs after a year of dominance because of a last minute injury to two guys. NOW they are in deep trouble.

dodgers/mets toss-up in 5.

[Dewey Finn]

Okay, for DNS, I think I hyped about Duque getting injured.

Seriously, if Mets are playing today, it would be serious. It's just his calf...
Wait.. Pedro was injured at the same spot...

STL leading VS SD on Pujols (the beast) 2 run home run so far, 2:0 Cards

[Dead Nigga Storage]

um, what? there is a big difference between losing JUST ONE starting pitcher who had little-to-no impact on the team's record for the year, and losing TWO starting pitchers (the second loss being to a career postseason ace) right before the playoffs when your rotations is already beginning to be stretched thin.

either that or i have no idea what you're talking about because it's such fragmented english. oh, and pat, it probably will be john maine in game one if el duque can't go.

[Rekart]

Cardinals win is a bit surprising, although nice. For once it wasn't even that close. Edmonds looked good, Belliard made good defensive plays, Pujols was Pujols, hell, even Molina got a hit and RBI. This is the way the team was supposed to be playing. If they keep it up, I don't see any reason why they couldn't make the World Series (Mets, as mentioned, are having some trouble and also backed in, Cards swept the Dodgers in the regular season,) but they've been so inconsistent. That's been the entire problem, so anyone thinking this is a big turnaround might want to wait a few games.

[Dead Nigga Storage]

if by "backed in", you mean the mets won their final 4 games, had a 6 run inning in their final game, and otherwise played how every single team that prematurely cliches before that, then sure, they "backed in". the cardinals are the ones who COMPLETELY folded in the final weeks of the season and nearly pulled off the biggest collapse in BASEBALL HISTORY. the cards played well today, but they also caught some breaks (piazza misplaying the foul pop up the pitch before pujols' blast, for example). i wouldn't read a ton into the game, but i also wouldn't discount it. not a huge deal.

[Roarke]

the cards beat the dodgers in the middle of the dodgers one horrendous streak and the one cardinels power streak.

we then won a bazillion games in a row.

but yeah. let's go blue!

[Dead Nigga Storage]

El Duque off the roster, Maine starting Game One, Perez taking his place on the roster, Mets fucked, etc.:
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/playoffs2006/news/story?id=2612496

[gravymaster]

teehee

[brad]

somebody in the tv booth keeps uploading something during the mets-dodgers broadcast

i keep hearing ws_ftp sounds

[smyce]

M-E-T-S METS METS METS!

[The Real Brian McGee]

Mets all the way!!!, I went to the game they clinched, and im going to the one tomorrow @seven.

Everyone always complais about the mets bullpen but what they fail to realize is that EVERYONE else in theNL has an even worse bullpen.

Here are some pics from the clincher... next post, hard to work

[The Real Brian McGee]

http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/117/img0358tf5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/629/img0356ga9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

I was way in the cheap seats (if you call 35$ a ticket cheap)

Ill have more pictures friday of game two

[PeterGriffin525]

mets are going all the way baby

[Dead Nigga Storage]

brian, shut up and go away. no one complains about the mets' bullpen. no one.

[doyle]

http://jota.sm.luth.se/~anedah-9/images/misc/seinfeld-subway.png

[The Real Brian McGee]

he he he ... i didnt think of that! funny!

well, DNS, you are right? but have you ever talked to a yankee fan who takes the oppertunity to nit pick on any slight sign of weaknees on the mets. like in the beginning of the season (most of the people in my area are yankee fans) some of my friends were calling carlos beltran the worst defensive center fielder playing too deep and such. (completely untrue) and he would suck again this year. and look at the season he had 41 Hr batting .275 or something and 116 runs scored. he showed them

[Dead Nigga Storage]

you're an idiot. stop listening to them.

[pat]

funny how you tried to argue with dns about the mets' bullpen by completely talking about something else.

[boogie down mikel]

the mets can probably string together the wins to get to the nlcs, maybe even to the series, but by then their bullpen will probably be exhausted against the yankee lineup

[Roarke]

how many times in my life will say go (nextteamseasoncomingup/inprogress)

go colts

[Roarke]

the dodgers were a streaky team all year, when they were in a bad one they'd get frustrated and just swing for the fences, make stupid throwing errors and have incosistant pitching. that's what you see here.

go tigers and go colts

[Spartan]

go colts.

[Dewey Finn]

Cardinals beat the Padres... all my predictions went down the drain...
Mets VS Cardinals. Mets in 7, I think.

[pat]

cards totally took me by surprise in this series. this nlcs might very well be better than i had predicted it to be... the cards seem to be back on track. they can very well give the mets a run and grab a couple games, but the mets are still the class of the nl, banged up rotation or not.

mets in 6

[kevin]

mets in 5

[Dead Nigga Storage]

Mets in 6. I'm going to game 1, too.

[robb]

cards in 7

[Mayor Quimby]

Mets in 5 (I took the Padres and the Twins..........)

[kuumuus]

mets in 5

[Mike]

hoping for the cards, because they're more beatable for the a's if they win the AL, but it'll likely be the mets.

either way, i'll be pulling for the AL champ in the world series.

mets in 7.

[gravymaster]

Game 1 cancelled. They will start the series tomorrow night.

[Dewey Finn]

Weaver VS Glavine now. It has been one hell of pitching duel so far (I'm surprised that WEAVER is actually pitching good in playoffs)

I'll be rooting for AL team in WS also

[pat]

when did jeff weaver suddenly become good?

[Dead Nigga Storage]

Man, the fans went nuts on weaver and looper today. As soon as weaver started to shake (this, by the way, was a less exaggerated version of his typical method: start strong, then falter), it was non-stop weeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaavvvvver. he started getting pissed, yelling in his glove, etc. what a headcase moron. what a game, and what a MONSTOROUS home run by beltran.

[pat]

so the cardinals have picked the right time to break out of that late season slump. something tells me this series could go the distance.

[gravymaster]

I'm gonna be a very happy person if the Cards can take this series. Mets SP is starting to come into play...

[Dead Nigga Storage]

I'm suddenly not getting why exactly the mets were supposed to be a cake-walk winner in this series. maybe the last, shorter one...but i'm not getting it for this one.

[kevin]

well, the yankees were also supposed to win the al easily. oops. that's why they play the games.

besides, before there were no starting pitching issues.... now there are a ton.

[Dead Nigga Storage]

no, that's why i emphasized for THIS series, it shouldn't have been such a lock or a cake-walk with the experts. they lost pedro AND el duque at the beginning of the playoffs. going into this series, that was known. i even made the mistake of buying into the "sure thing" win for the mets, but it's just not true. the mets basically have glavine, maine, then...whoever. traschel has always been a problem, and he's #3...it's a fucking mess, period. and the one thing that i KNEW wasn't true is that the cardinals are not just a "pujols and everyone else" offense. they played well all season with a MUCH better rotation than this...or at least a more intact one.

[Rekart]

Well, for much of the season, the Cardinals were just a Pujols and everyone else offense. Everyone else, specifically Spiezio, has picked it up for the playoffs, starting pitching included. Suppan and especially Weaver were all over the place during the season, and have both become consistent in their playoff starts. I mean, the Cardinals could be up 3-0 in the series if they had any offense in the first game.

It's a good series. I hope it doesn't go back to New York, but logic says it will. The Mets are down, but not that far down, and tonight's game, while winnable, is also easily losable. Reyes doesn't have any playoff experience that I know of, and while he had a better regular season than the Mets pitcher, you can't expect rookies to come out and blow the other team away.

[Dead Nigga Storage]

and the mets could very easily be up 2-1 with a little defense in game 2...it goes both ways.

and no, rolen has been good for almost all of the season, and that's a very good bat. eckstein, too.

[Rekart]

Rolen and Eckstein were both far better in the first half than the second though. They both slid through the end of the season (just like the rest of the team,) and Pujols had far more important hits than either of them. You're right, of course the lineup has/had other weapons, they just weren't performing in the second half until now. Rolen still isn't, but he's hurt, so that's fine. Still playing great defense.

[kuumuus]

go cards.

st louis deserves it after that DEVASTATING rams loss.

[gravymaster]

DNS, when the Mets lose this series what will you do?

[Dead Nigga Storage]

DNS, when the Mets lose this series what will you do?IF they lose, i rather casually move on to football season.

and add encarnacion to the list. and the high-OPS that edmonds still provides. the team is NOT a pujols only team by any stretch...just because there isn't ANOTHER guy hitting .300/30/100 doesn't mean the team is reliant on one guy, by any stretch.

[Dewey Finn]

Perez VS Reyes. A Tale Of Two Young Unprovens

Boy, loss of Pedro and Duque (til WS) really hurts for Mets.

[Rekart]

Juan was arguably the second most stable player this season after his slow start. I don't know if he's going to be back or not (fans still don't seem to really like him at all, I don't know why,) but he should be.

The team WAS reliant on one guy in the lineup though. It was that way all season, but even more in the second half. Just as the rotation was carried by one guy, so was the lineup, which is why this sudden pick up in performance is surprising to everyone. Like I said, you're right that the lineup SHOULDN'T have been reliant on one person, and they're showing why now, but they were. Everyone else had spots of greatness, and they weren't BAD, they just weren't consistently good enough to get much done.

[Dead Nigga Storage]

Juan was arguably the second most stable player this season after his slow start. I don't know if he's going to be back or not (fans still don't seem to really like him at all, I don't know why,) but he should be.

The team WAS reliant on one guy in the lineup though. It was that way all season, but even more in the second half. Just as the rotation was carried by one guy, so was the lineup, which is why this sudden pick up in performance is surprising to everyone. Like I said, you're right that the lineup SHOULDN'T have been reliant on one person, and they're showing why now, but they were. Everyone else had spots of greatness, and they weren't BAD, they just weren't consistently good enough to get much done.no, they weren't reliant on ONE guy. that's not enough in baseball, and it's just not true. they were reliant on one SPECIFIC individual, and a supporting cast where there was always SOMEONE contributing, making it more of a team effort and less of an individual effort. the reason i have named SEVERAL names is because there isn't one guy, outside of pujols, that has pulled the team, there have been SEVERAL key contributors. just because, beyond pujols, you can't put your finger on one other individual doesn't mean that it was pujols-reliant, it means that it was pujols-centered, but team reliant.

and juan has been bounced around his entire career. he's not that well liked because of his attitude, which is why he finds a new uniform every year.

anyway, overall point is that people got too caught up in the mets' regular season record and their performance against the dodgers that they didn't notice the overwhelming rotation issues...much bigger ones than even the cardinals have. it's been glavine and then nothing, really. and that doesn't do shit in the playoffs, period.

edit: i don't know if i mentioned this before, but beyond him totally sucking ass, jeff weaver is also an asshole: "I guess I can thank them," Weaver said of the Angels, with whom he went 3-10 with a 6.29 earned-run average. "They're at home and we're continuing to play. I knew if I stuck with what got me through seven, eight years in the big leagues, things would turn around."

nothing pisses me off more than him costing the angels the playoffs and then FREELOADING off of another team until he gets into the playoffs with them. fuck his sorry, spoiled, greedy, whiny little ass. he's a fucking worthless shithead.

[Rekart]

Ok, Pujols carried the team then. Of course others scored runs, but the point is, none of them were consistently good or noticably good offensively. There was always another player on the team that was hot (Duncan comes to mind,) but nothing lasted long. Defense is probably the only reason they even made the playoffs this season, which is always overlooked vs. pitching and hitting.

I think people recognized the Mets' rotation problem, it's pretty obvious, I think they were still unwilling to give the Cardinals much chance because of the way they ended the season. It was only the Padres, after all (although, logically, they should have noticed the difference, since the Cardinals had just gotten killed by the Padres the week before.) Plus, the media still masturbates to the Mets lineup, and they've been picking them all year. Pretty much everyone's picks are based somewhat on what they hear the media say, so it carries over.

That's why picks are worthless for reasons other than bragging when you're right and acting like it didn't happen when you're wrong. Unless you have money on it, but that's why you don't put money on it.

[Dead Nigga Storage]

i still don't buy the "carrying the team" angle. there are 8 other guys in the lineup, and they TOOK TURNS being important. that's all there is to it.

[pat]

damn, it's fun seeing these two teams beat the shit out of each other

[tones]

strange bullpen useage. i think eckstein can fit in phat alberts pants pockets.

[pat]

well, that game just proved to me that i still have no idea who's gonna win this series

[Dewey Finn]

If Traechael is pitching tomorrow, Cardinals will win it IMO. I think Mets still have a chance though, they are returning to home and... well if they can hit Cards big in Game 6, they might make it to Game 7 and WS

If Cardinals win WS this year, they are going to be the WS winner with least wins during the season (83 wins. Least so far is 1987 Twins with 87 wins)

[Dead Nigga Storage]

traschel was in the bullpen tonight...i think it's clear they have no intention of starting him. who gives a fuck, it's football season and roy williams is leading the NFL in receiving, so that's a far more interesting sport right now.

[pat]

maine is pitching tomorrow, ian.

[Jeff]

carpenter vs. maine tommorow ...i'll take the cards tommorow, 6-4 your final

[Dead Nigga Storage]

i don't care about this prediction specfically, but weren't you already laughed out of enough baseball threads for one lifetime?

[smyce]

If the Cardinals dont have 4 runs by the 3rd inning I think the Mets will win it.

Should be a great game, I love Game 7's.

[smyce]

OH WOW!

What a play by Chavez. Just wow.

[gravymaster]

God DAMMIT.

[Dead Nigga Storage]

well, congrats to the 2006 Detroit Tigers. beltran's entire sub-par 2005 is nothing compared to THAT.

[gravymaster]

http://www.johnberman.com/pics/funny/simpsons_nelson_haha2.jpg

[Dewey Finn]

I wouldn't make fun of Mets right now. Although their season ended with Wainwright's dead-on 12-6 curve ball, Minaya did a tremendous job of building up the offense and the bullpen before the season with good backups (they did sacrificed some prospects, but they do have Milledge and best record in NL). Good job in 2006, Mets, prepare for another one in the 2007.

And I'm Yankee fan. Anyway, back to the subject, the bottom of the 9th inning really freaking raised my blood pressure.
http://mlbpark.donga.com/data/uploadimg/b_mlb/20061020/135752/cardinalswin.gif

[gravymaster]

I wouldn't make fun of Mets right now. Although their season ended with Wainwright's dead-on 12-6 curve ball, Minaya did a tremendous job of building up the offense and the bullpen before the season with good backups (they did sacrificed some prospects, but they do have Milledge and best record in NL). Good job in 2006, Mets, prepare for another one in the 2007.
http://www.johnberman.com/pics/funny/simpsons_nelson_haha2.jpg

[kevin]

tigers-cardinals.

enthralling.

[Dead Nigga Storage]

ARE YOU READY FOR SOME FOOTBALL?

[Rekart]

Wainwright has been taking a little TOO much advice from Isringhausen. "Hey man, listen, just load the bases then see what you can do. Trust me."

[Andy]

ARE YOU READY FOR SOME FOOTBALL?
Was ready months ago.

[kevin]

ARE YOU READY FOR SOME FOOTBALL?

why yes

[doyle]

would have wanted the tigers regardless of who won this one, but at least this shuts up the surprisingly large population of mets fans at this school.

[kevin]

well i want the entire population of tigers fags to shut the fuck up here

[pat]

that game was incredible... honestly didn't care who won because i don't really like either team, i was just enjoying the game for what it was.