In the Community (AKA how sweetmercifulcrap learned to easily change thread titles)

[Malachy]

simpsoncrazy.com/ralph (http://simpsoncrazy.com/ralph)
Tim, the ower of That's Unpossible, has stated that the newest design for his Ralph dedication is complete. He is currently biding his time, increasing the framegrabs sections and adding various season 17-themed contents.

duffzone.co.uk (http://duffzone.co.uk)
The Simpsons Gallery is largely known as "the media site," but it's really much more. Their references section is a triple-threat with an interesting concept, gorgeous presentation, and feeling of completeness.

krustylustudios.com/nick (http://www.nick.krustylustudios.com/)
There's a new character site on the way dedicated to Nick Riviera. Krustylu Studios, which is quickly rising up in the community, will host it. Kudos to Brad on another quality multimedia site, but shame-shame on a separate forum.

lardlad.com (http://www.lardlad.com/)
LETS is by no standard over-looked, but it's really impossible to say too many good things about it. They've accumulated 23,243 framegrabs, their Grabmatch and Cryptic Quote games entertain, and they continue to maintain the most complete collection of promo cards.

babysimpson.co.uk (http://lisa.babysimpson.co.uk/)
Lisa the Beauty Queen, circa 2005, is set to merge with Key to Springfield, still not open, on June 21st.

snpp.com (http://www.snpp.com/)
It's been six months since the last new episode capsule, and before that it had been a year. Capsules are still in season 9; will this legendary and oft-copied collection ever be completed?

roundspringfield.com (http://www.roundspringfield.com/)
A Hitchhiker's Guide to Springfield is in a frozen state as John (the webmaster) is now attending college. But he has stated definitively that he has no plans to shut down.

simpsonschannel.com (http://simpsonschannel.com/)
The Simpsons Channel headlines network continues to grow. Seven fansites now carry the special headlines feature on their page. The channel is also of note this month as it searches for a new staff member.

simpsons100.com.ar (http://www.simpsons100.com.ar/index.php?a_m=1)
Vivo los Simpsons 100! Top 100 en Espanol is a ranking of Spanish Simpsons sites, which are based out of several different countries around the globe. However, the name misleads, as there are only twenty listed websites.

lisasimpson-net.de (http://www.lisasimpson-net.de/)
A segment was included last month that described the disappearance of Little Miss Springfield. I didn't realize to check on it then, but the German translation is still online. I used the email provided on KMS, thinking it belonged to Alica, only to find different. A girl named Andreas maintains KMS, and she said, "I don't know what happend to LMS, either. Most likely, the ...@lisasimpson.net addresses don't work anymore, since the domain registration expired. I'll see if I have another e-mail address from Alicia, but I didn't have any contact with her since about three years or so..."

justdohit.co.uk (http://www.justdohit.co.uk/)
I mentioned off-hand earlier this week that Just D'oh It still receives more hits than most of the big Simpsons fansites. An exact figure: 6500 hits in the past month.

krustylustudios.com (http://krustylustudios.com)
The Krustylu Studios machine marches on. Its forum has close to 2000 members now, and several sites announced there haven't bothered to post here. I think I speak for everyone when I say I hate Canada...Krustylu Studios and everyone that has anything to do with it.

ahplace.com/dohs (http://www.dohs.ahplace.com/)
Around the World in 80 D'ohs is open but remains to garner any sort of interest. Its design is plain and boring, and the only content that sounds even close to fun is coming soon.

thesimpsonsmon.net (http://www.thesimpsonsmon.net/)
Lazy, lazy, lazy. The guy admits to be waiting around for a donation. No creativity, no effort, no promise.

isimpsonlive.com (http://isimpsonlive.com/)
iSimpson has released its version 2 re-design. Its most notable feature is a stunning and original new take on the passe cloud background. The design's encoding in general needs to be cleaned up, but young Jordan definitely shows talent, ability, and a distinct style in this bold yet simple layout.

springfieldcentral.net/tshq (http://tshq.springfieldcentral.net/)
A new site is set to be released on September 22 of this year. Not much is known on the content base, whether it will be an episode-centered page or a general site with Homer the Great theming.

dohnet.com/marge (http://marge.dohnet.com/)
Yet another unannounced site is hosted by one of the separate three (krustyly, springfieldcentral, dohnet). It's a small Marge page with all the basic content.

burst of character sites
Nothing negative on my end on the recent emersion of Lisa, Bart, and Flanders character sites. All three have nice designs and a respectable amount of content. I've set up a link rotator at Zip to introduce the newer sites. I'll make this vow: any new site that posts their link at NHC will be added to the rotation.

content police?
I'm all for protecting the rights of content creators, but a rising trend that seems to carry a fog of stupidity with it is the "report stolen content" pages. They're either PHP-based forms or simple email links, but they all serve the same ridiculous purpose.

springfield connection c&d
I hadn't heard about this until recently, but it happened around April-May. After a period of legal rest FOX has sent a c&d to multimedia-giant The Springfield Connection. The current TSC downtime is presumed unrelated, as the page currently appearing looks like a lapse in hosting-payment. Check out LETS's FOX tips page (http://lardlad.com/fox.shtml) for a load of information on this topic.


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[tim]

wow, i was the top story.

for so much happening around the community this month, it seems like not much has happened.

[User 1.0]

A girl named Andreas maintains KMS, and she said, "I don't know what happend to LMS, either. Most likely, the ...@lisasimpson.net addresses don't work anymore, since the domain registration expired. I'll see if I have another e-mail address from Alicia, but I didn't have any contact with her since about three years or so..."

Andreas is a dude. :-/

[grissom]

I think I speak for everyone when I say I hate Canada...Krustylu Studios and everyone that has anything to do with it.
Uh, wow. What exactly is your problem with forums? You seem to constantly complain about any site that has a forum, even good ones. I'm not saying KLS forums are perfect, there are plenty of bad members there, but I think you're being a bit too harsh.

[Torgee]

Uh, wow. What exactly is your problem with forums? You seem to constantly complain about any site that has a forum, even good ones. I'm not saying KLS forums are perfect, there are plenty of bad members there, but I think you're being a bit too harsh.
more so what do you have against Canada? :(
wow, im number 3

[Homer the Moe]

the springfield connection has officially closed now. fox contacted the host, they cancelled our hosting and have refused to get back to us since.

[Brad Clarke]

Uh, wow. What exactly is your problem with forums? You seem to constantly complain about any site that has a forum, even good ones. I'm not saying KLS forums are perfect, there are plenty of bad members there, but I think you're being a bit too harsh.
I kinda do have to agree with you there, Im not anti nohomers, we ban bad members, it is like the only other simpsons forum, im not trying to compete with nohomers, I try to run my forum the best I can, I can't control who joins it either. But just saying and all. Anyways it was nice to read a community update.

[Kevajeho]

Could you add BArt Star there? www.mayorquimby.net

[Malachy]

Could you add BArt Star there? www.mayorquimby.netIt's included in the burst of character sites segment.

Uh, wow. What exactly is your problem with forums? You seem to constantly complain about any site that has a forum, even good ones. I'm not saying KLS forums are perfect, there are plenty of bad members there, but I think you're being a bit too harsh.
I kinda do have to agree with you there, Im not anti nohomers, we ban bad members, it is like the only other simpsons forum, im not trying to compete with nohomers, I try to run my forum the best I can, I can't control who joins it either. But just saying and all. Anyways it was nice to read a community update.I don't mind that you have a forum or even that it's Simpsons-based. It's that you have a section named The Simpsons On The Web (seriously, go check it out, they used the exact name) that splits up community discussion. I don't mind sites having forums, and I'm apathetic toward your members, but I don't think it's good for the community in the long run for a forum to separate webmaster discussion and only visit here to advertise their own sites.

I had a feeling this would be the controversial segment this month, but I completely stand by it.

[Torgee]

It's included in the burst of character sites segment.


I don't mind that you have a forum or even that it's Simpsons-based. It's that you have a section named The Simpsons On The Web (seriously, go check it out, they used the exact name) that splits up community discussion. I don't mind sites having forums, and I'm apathetic toward your members, but I don't think it's good for the community in the long run for a forum to separate webmaster discussion and only visit here to advertise their own sites.

I had a feeling this would be the controversial segment this month, but I completely stand by it.
actyualy a good majority of the krustylu studios members post here to. And also have you ever scene a simpsons forum that didnt have a "Simpsons on the Web" section

[Rich Uncle Skeleton]

krustylustudios.com
The Krustylu Studios machine marches on. Its forum has close to 2000 members now, and several sites announced there haven't bothered to post here. I think I speak for everyone when I say I hate Canada...Krustylu Studios and everyone that has anything to do with it.
To be fair, most of the members there were banned from the NHC :x ;)

ahplace.com/dohs
Around the World in 80 D'ohs is open but remains to garner any sort of interest. Its design is plain and boring, and the only content that sounds even close to fun is coming soon.
That's a bit harsh, especially since you celebrate the new character sites among others, which have similarly simple (but nice) designs. And the content on 80 D'ohs looks decent to me. Pretty good start IMO.

Good call on the "report stolen content" pages though, I'd noticed that myself.

Also a really weird thing, I just visited http://www.lardlad.com/promo.shtml and all the images are completely missing...

[mentholmoose]

They're working for me. Are you sure it's not just a random fluke?

[Solid Snake]

lisa.babysimpson.co.uk (http://lisa.babysimpson.co.uk/)
Lisa the Beauty Queen, circa 2005, is set to merge with Key to Springfield, still not open, on June 21st.

Nah, scratch that. I've got something else in mind.


lisasimpson-net.de (http://www.lisasimpson-net.de/)
A segment was included last month that described the disappearance of Little Miss Springfield. I didn't realize to check on it then, but the German translation is still online. I used the email provided on KMS, thinking it belonged to Alica, only to find different. A girl named Andreas maintains KMS, and she said, "I don't know what happend to LMS, either. Most likely, the ...@lisasimpson.net addresses don't work anymore, since the domain registration expired. I'll see if I have another e-mail address from Alicia, but I didn't have any contact with her since about three years or so..."

Hate to break it to you Malachy, but Andreas is a dude.

[Malachy]

That's a bit harsh, especially since you celebrate the new character sites among others, which have similarly simple (but nice) designs. And the content on 80 D'ohs looks decent to me. Pretty good start IMO.You're right on this one. I was just turned off by all the coming soon pages, and the design that he didn't even make himself looks template-y. But I shouldn't complain about a new release with real content. Retraction added.

Andreas is a dude.My mistake. I'd only spoken with him through email, and I suppose I just assumed he was a girl. Apologies if he reads this.

And also have you ever scene a simpsons forum that didnt have a "Simpsons on the Web" sectionNone that broke up the community so effectively. Even when Maggied was open 98% of the same things were posted. The Simpsons On The Web at Krustylu has built a little community around itself, and I strongly believe it's one of the reasons this section has been dragged down so much. And, come on, even On and The are incorrectly capitalized exactly the same as here.

[Brad Clarke]

You're right on this one. I was just turned off by all the coming soon pages, and the design that he didn't even make himself looks template-y. But I shouldn't complain about a new release with real content. Retraction added.

My mistake. I'd only spoken with him through email, and I suppose I just assumed he was a girl. Apologies if he reads this.

None that broke up the community so effectively. Even when Maggied was open 98% of the same things were posted. The Simpsons On The Web at Krustylu has built a little community around itself, and I strongly believe it's one of the reasons this section has been dragged down so much. And, come on, even On and The are incorrectly capitalized exactly the same as here.
its already changed now are you happy, if it really bothered you that much you could of just told me on aim. :P

[Jim Jones]

My site at http://androidsdungeon.biz will update with a second script VERY soon.

[-AW-]

Can you get rid of my site, TSM? I'm making changes on it, ok? I'm not a lazy assed idiot like you, F****c***

[sweetmercifulcrap]

Wow, I never realized it until now (probably because I haven't been there in months), but krustylu studios looks like a poor rip off of my old BTL design. Straight down to the skin changer. 2 years ago I'd be pissed, now I'm apathetic.

[sweetmercifulcrap]

oh, and everyone needs to chill the fuck out. Especially awpoon, if you're gonna call malachy a fucking cunt, don't use stars. That's all I ask.

[Snoopy]

You're right on this one. I was just turned off by all the coming soon pages, and the design that he didn't even make himself looks template-y. But I shouldn't complain about a new release with real content. Retraction added.


Thanks, the reason i have coming soon pages is becuase, i have all of the content on the page i just havent had time to upload them. so those pages should be up with in a week. and thanks for that comment scott. and the design most people liked it and just 1 or 2 people really hated it. there will be a new one in a few months anyway.

[Malachy]

That Malachy...he's one crazy fella.

And, guys, I don't mind at all being challenged on these. I realize I have a tendency to put things bluntly; I expect and urge you all to call me on anything you disagree with. I inject opinion into things because it gets discussion rolling. Make no mistake, I mean everything I say here, but I love to hear dissention.

its already changed now are you happy, if it really bothered you that much you could of just told me on aim. :PThe name never bothered me. I was only using it as an example of the section being unnecessary and splitting the community into two pieces.

[Torgee]

None that broke up the community so effectively. Even when Maggied was open 98% of the same things were posted. The Simpsons On The Web at Krustylu has built a little community around itself, and I strongly believe it's one of the reasons this section has been dragged down so much. And, come on, even On and The are incorrectly capitalized exactly the same as here.
yeah, i suppose you could be right, actualy after looking at the Bart Star hits, its saying that 80 unique hits came from http://krustylustudios.com/forum/index.php
and 10 unique hits from http://nohomers.net/showthread.php
i dont know how acurate that is but that is what it says

[Malachy]

I don't see how that's related; the link's been on Krustylu several hours more than it's been here.

[-AW-]

Hmmmm........ Three of your sites are outdated, and you're an asshead

[grissom]

Hmmmm........ Three of your sites are outdated, and you're an asshead
My God, you're such a dumbass. Just shut the hell up. And who the fuck uses 'asshead' as an insult.

[Radioactive Man]

What's the big deal with his forum? So there are a few topics there that don't get posted here. Big deal. I don't mean this in a bad way, but you'll notice that about half the regular posters there have site's whose lifetimes average about 2 months.

[Ivan]

My God, you're such a dumbass. Just shut the hell up. And who the fuck uses 'asshead' as an insult.

Don't worry, it's coming from someone who thinks slicing a website in MS Paint is the best way to make a site.

[garret]

And making a design in MS paint. Which is worse than attempting to slice one in it...

[Malachy]

What's the big deal with his forum? So there are a few topics there that don't get posted here. Big deal. I don't mean this in a bad way, but you'll notice that about half the regular posters there have site's whose lifetimes average about 2 months.That's a pretty reasonable way to look at it. I didn't mean for it to be the big topic this month...it's been going on for a while, and there really isn't a way to change it that isn't embarassing or silly.

Settled: Krustylu does take activity from NHC, but it's nothing to argue over, and nobody from Krustylu can argue worth a damn anyway. I'll just try cover any of the links posted over there in this monthly thread.

Now, this must end...because it seems like the kind of thing Levin would bang heads over if he discovered it early in the morning. :-X

How about Springfield Connection receiving a C&D? Whoa...

[tim]

yeah, that came out of left field.

we've pretty much established that fox only sends C&Ds if you link full (and even partial) episode downloads on your site, and i think that fox will chill out now that we, as a community, have pretty much taken a stand on not offering episodes as content on our pages.

[SubSane]

To add onto the character site thing, it seems the standard has become using two or three large grabpics and the title of the site in a large font, all within a header about 200px high. I understand (http://www.noiseland.net/herman/) that it's a good standard to fall back on, but folks should consider switching it up a bit in terms of design.

[sweetmercifulcrap]

(bangs heads)

so, in conclusion, stop arguing over the stupidest shit in the world.

[Adam]

nice to see lardlad get a positive mention, a welcome change from the UPDATE, FUCKFACE emails i'm getting.

;)

[Andreas]

Andreas is a dude.My mistake. I'd only spoken with him through email, and I suppose I just assumed he was a girl. Apologies if he reads this.LOL! :D No hard feelings, though, you're not the first one who mixed up my gender. ;) *dresses up like Lisa*

[Jolly Bengali]

(bangs heads)

so, in conclusion, stop arguing over the stupidest shit in the world.

Jesus God, seconded.

And a small note - I've never even heard of the Krustylu forum or web forum, but if they're being insular, it's entirely within their right. I'd love people to encourage them to make their presence felt over here, since it's great to keep people active and motivated and discussing things who are still linked into this forum as their portal for Simpsons on the Web stuff, but if they want to be their own thing that's not the end of the world.

[sweetmercifulcrap]

And a small note - I've never even heard of the Krustylu forum or web forum, but if they're being insular, it's entirely within their right. I'd love people to encourage them to make their presence felt over here, since it's great to keep people active and motivated and discussing things who are still linked into this forum as their portal for Simpsons on the Web stuff, but if they want to be their own thing that's not the end of the world.

ameh brotha.

[Binky]

Wow, I never realized it until now (probably because I haven't been there in months), but krustylu studios looks like a poor rip off of my old BTL design. Straight down to the skin changer. 2 years ago I'd be pissed, now I'm apathetic.
I'd say it's more of a direct rip off of elements from this website (http://www.nickelodeon.com), complete with the very same "loading" animation when the page first loads (which brad clarke seems to have removed recently, probably after realizing how stupid it is to steal something which serves no actual purpose for him). That combined with the layout copied from BTL, the horribly distorted/compressed images, and the random unoriginal artwork from the show poorly meshed together with no real purpose or theme sure makes for one awesome website! :yummy:

[Rich Uncle Skeleton]

They're working for me. Are you sure it's not just a random fluke?
I realised what it was - my dad turned on the adblocking feature of Zone Alarm Pro and set it to max. Not sure why it would block the promo images from LETS though...

[tim]

adam sold his soul to bonzai buddy.

[Adam]

probably in the same way that it'd block out any sites which labelled their logo as 'banner.gif'

probably picks up the word 'promo' and sees it as, well, promotional, ie, adverts.

[camelenchilada]

About the original post in this thread, I really enjoyed reading that, Malachy. Good job. :)

[Brad Clarke]

Wow, I never realized it until now (probably because I haven't been there in months), but krustylu studios looks like a poor rip off of my old BTL design. Straight down to the skin changer. 2 years ago I'd be pissed, now I'm apathetic.
dude no offense but I got the skin selector from http://simpsonscentral.com/andy he offers it in his port. and it came defaut like that, Im really just to goddam lazy to change it.

[sweetmercifulcrap]

I coded that. But if you wanna pretend it's no resemblance to older BTL designs that's your deal

[Joe Dumbass]

I'd say it's more of a direct rip off of elements from this website (http://www.nickelodeon.com), complete with the very same "loading" animation when the page first loads (which brad clarke seems to have removed recently, probably after realizing how stupid it is to steal something which serves no actual purpose for him). That combined with the layout copied from BTL, the horribly distorted/compressed images, and the random unoriginal artwork from the show poorly meshed together with no real purpose or theme sure makes for one awesome website! :yummy:

Looks like someones jealous :D

[Homer the Moe]

jon, i didn't completely rip it from you. yeah, the skinswap page looks the same (how many variations are there?) but i coded the skin system from scratch, i swear.

[sweetmercifulcrap]

o....k

It looks identical and works the exact same way, but I'll take your word for it. I don't even care, I'm just pointing out how similar his site is to my old site. To top things off, I said earlier I was apathetic, AND I said it's not just about the skin switcher it's a lot more. I was just making an observation, an undeniable observation if anyone remembers that BTL with the bright pink links, skin switcher, flashey header that looks like his only better, etc. etc. I remember when he was making this he kept asking me for old BTL designs for "inspiration"...and andy, didn't you talk to me before making your skin switcher? I kinda remember telling you how I did mine, but I could be wrong.

[Radioactive Man]

To add to another pointless debate in this thread, how many ways are there to make a styleswitcher? I've never seen SMC or Andy's code but mine appears to work the same as the one on Krustylu.

[Homer the Moe]

nope, i didn't ask you, i don't think. i can't remember really.
and i've said on countless occasions that kls takes successful elements of btl from there, such as the links, header, and even the newsposts look almost identical. ever since the grabpics, to be fair, the site has evolved to follow btl's style.

[Henrik P]

Can you post some BTL designs so I can see?

[Malachy]

www.archive.org

[sweetmercifulcrap]

nope, i didn't ask you, i don't think. i can't remember really.
and i've said on countless occasions that kls takes successful elements of btl from there, such as the links, header, and even the newsposts look almost identical. ever since the grabpics, to be fair, the site has evolved to follow btl's style.

yeah, and trust me I regret giving that site the grabpics, but what's done is done. I'll think of it more as a compliment to my creativity I guess, rather than an insult. It's all good, as I said I am very apathetic, it's just funny to come back into the community after a year and a half leave to see what's here.

And PS there are houndreds of ways to do skin selectors.

[-AW-]

look, I'm not here to get in trouble and get warned again and again, but look, you're saying bad stuff at us, when your site yourself is just awful and pointless! Mods, I'm trying to control myself, but you should really close this topic

[Brad Clarke]

Ok this is where I get mad, no I did not fucking copy, the btl design, I only asked you once for inspriation for designs, not fucking copy them. Besides Mike was the one always asking you for them. Yeah there is things that are simliar but stop comparing me to a fucking closed site, Im sure all of you guys would be just as mad if you worked so hard on something and they just say its just like btl, I dont really take that as a compliment, because If I wanted it to be like btl I would rip the design right off, do everything the same.. Jon its not your style, many sites use the same colors I use, the bright colors I use, Its grabs the poeple's attension, thats why I do it, and not all the links are rollover pink, its supossed to be rollover what ever color you picked in the skin selector but im having problems with the php includes, changing the css, so I have to get rid of the css in the php includes. It only seems to work with green. And my grabs that I make look nothing like the btl grabs, the ones I do always have shadows, and they are normally always the full body, the other ones where made by poeple on my site. And the cutenews, with the avatar on the left, I know tons of sites that do that, simpsonscentral.com even did it on its first design. But you want to know what really fucking makes me mad is when someone goes and mentions my site the whole fucking thread has to be about bad things about my site, how about something good for a change, he posted about like 50 other sites, not really sure why this whole thread is being about mines. And Im pretty sure I know what im doing, if I have almost 2000 members on my forum and its only 8 months old, I dont even want to hear poeple saying im copying, ripping off, I never fucking say that someone else's site is ripping off somethign because to me it is fucking disrespectful. Now lets just end all this shit about btl and krustylu.

[sweetmercifulcrap]

1. I don't understand half your post. Take a deep breath and punctuate
2. It appears, and mind you I'm judging your post based on the half I can understand, that you completely misunderstood my original posts.

I never said it was a compliment to you that I inspired you. Lord, I'm not that vein glorious. I said I should, in a sense, shut the fuck up and just take it as a compliment that my past designs inspired current designs, since I think we can all agree, and so said by you, that you took SOME inspiration from my site.

Perhaps, yes, I am overlooking the fact that a lot of my distinguishing factors of BTL were from other simpsons sites. I also thought that mike dude who always talked to me (until I accidently sent my buddy list a virus...he freaked out and yelled at me, it was cute. As if it was on purpose) was you. I really never distinguished betwee the two of you.

I also never said anything about your grabpics resembling mine. I said I regret ever giving that site my grabpics (remember when I donated a bunch to you...or did you quickly forget and decide to claim them as yours?).

and awpoon...shut the fuck up. Learn to take critisism. How is your site every gonna do well if you immediately dismiss the negative descriptions? Take what people say with a spoonful of sugar (or grainful of salt...I don't know, I'm high and this is bugging me) and build off it.

[tim]

i'd like to take this quick opportunity to thank jon levin and the whole kls team for making this thread the greatest thing to happen to simpsons on the web in the last year and a half.

aaaaaaaand continue.

[sweetmercifulcrap]

spicing things up a bit :)

but for the sake of everyone I'm gonna close this thread.

[Jolly Bengali]

How there is enough drama in a SotW thread to trump anything else I can think of is beyond me.

Anyways Jon Levin is always right, because Tim says so, so remember that.

Peace.