MF DOOM

[lolpenis_taco]

I think the closest things we've had to an MF DOOM thread here were the Madvillainy circle-jerk and my <5-post DangerDoom thread. I've been listening to the Doomster almost religiously lately. I've always had a sneaky affection for the man's music, but as of recently it has been downright obsessive. I can't get enough of this guy. I think he and his brilliance are worthy of more discussion at this board.

http://www.sfist.com/archives/images/mfdoom.jpg

Favorite tracks? Verses? Lines? Anyone you'd like to see him team up with in the future? Mouse and the Mask part deux???

For those of you who are unfamiliar with him, MF DOOM > you.

Discuss.

[mohammed jafar]

dude is the most important advance in rhyming since eminem, in that his use of intentionally-forced multisyllabic rhyming is so self-parodical it's not even parodical in the slightest, its its own self-contained entity. it's so self-aware. whether you a rapper or dang sanger, once you're on there's only one way out like a gang banger. it's like officially post-multisyllabic rap. he has that spark that eminem had, where you just get the impression that he just plain loves to rhyme words together, as a natural impulse, which is so inspiring. it's everything modern hip hop can and should be. i mean the label "post-" should have as much behind it as it possibly can, and doom has the intelligentsia of rakim and whoever behind him in combination with the more playful modern multisyllabic stuff. doom is a pretty sound formation of all hip hop's evolution up to this point, possibly other than people like illogic and aesop rock.

he also has that abundance of presence and cadence in every line that parrish smith has, where he says one line then you sort of half-expect the rhyme on the second line, you're like, okay he's going to say something like......and when it hits it just adheres to the rhythm more beautifully than you can ever imagine. its just slammed down on the beat, running the gauntlet between expectation and surprise so incredibly precisely it could make you cry.

[Kamerica]

mohamed covered anything i would have said, but this guy is most definetly excellent. sounds like the dude is reciting lyrics in the back of a bus that he wrote on a napkin; broken arrow is number one.

dangerdoom was great, too.

[My Little Needle]

madvillainy is probably (strike that, definitely) my favorite hip hop album ever. and dangerdoom was awesome. guy's a genius.

[lolpenis_taco]

dude is the most important advance in rhyming since eminem, in that his use of intentionally-forced multisyllabic rhyming is so self-parodical it's not even parodical in the slightest, its its own self-contained entity. it's so self-aware. whether you a rapper or dang sanger, once you're on there's only one way out like a gang banger. it's like officially post-multisyllabic rap. he has that spark that eminem had, where you just get the impression that he just plain loves to rhyme words together, as a natural impulse, which is so inspiring. it's everything modern hip hop can and should be. i mean the label "post-" should have as much behind it as it possibly can, and doom has the intelligentsia of rakim and whoever behind him in combination with the more playful modern multisyllabic stuff. doom is a pretty sound formation of all hip hop's evolution up to this point, possibly other than people like illogic and aesop rock.

he also has that abundance of presence and cadence in every line that parrish smith has, where he says one line then you sort of half-expect the rhyme on the second line, you're like, okay he's going to say something like......and when it hits it just adheres to the rhythm more beautifully than you can ever imagine. its just slammed down on the beat, running the gauntlet between expectation and surprise so incredibly precisely it could make you cry.

Adding to that, his slightly-slurred enunciation makes his vocal presence even better.

[kelly]

i love operation doomsday

[Kuje]

Never heard of him?? Sounds like I should check him out though. Intelligent hip hop is always a pleasure.

[Jolly Bengali]

I love the guy to death, especially as a rapper, and respect his producing. Me and Robbie have already traded DOOM love, and Madvillainy ranks somewhere high in my top 5 of any albums, period, not just hip-hop (and King Geedorah in the top 10-15 as well.)

Jafar, assuming he wasn't making fun of people who take rap too seriously, summed it up pretty nicely. It's all the little moments - saying "ps-y-chi-a-trist" in "Great Day Today" to fit the meter, rather than the normal 4 syllables, the "WAKKAAAAA" in "Take Me To Your Leader", the genius ear for how to meld his voice with the beat that shows up all over Dangerdoom... dude is a genius. Granted, as anyone who's read his interviews knows, he's absolutely batshit insane, but however fucked up he is when not rapping doesn't impede the music a bit.

I will say that his guest spots on other people's songs are a little weak, however - "Biochemical Equation" with RZA he slides off the beat near the end, and "Angeles" with Ghostface he unquestionably has the worse verse (though technically a duet and not a feature spot) - but he's still a genius. The total body of work at this point is staggering - he has an output of great albums on par with a lot of the best rock bands, and rap is without question a harder genre to deliver multiple, excellent, largely filler-free albums for - the list of rappers with more than 2 is very slim, and DOOM has, depending on how you count his credits on an album, something like 4 or 5.

Anyways, love him to death. All fans of music, rap or otherwise, should check him out.

[derelictpi]

I've only heard Danger Doom and that was good. When I get some cash I might just pick up some of his stuff.

In terms of hip hop, I like; Atmosphere, Del the Funky Homosapien, Hieroglyphics Crew, Sage Francis, Common, Kanye, Weerd Science and Gym Class Heroes. Are any of these comparable?

[mohammed jafar]

Jafar, assuming he wasn't making fun of people who take rap too seriously...

hahahaha

i love you. but no, i wasnt, by any means. i take rap more seriously than any sucka. if you want me to give you a 3000-word essay on "follow the leader" or "the message" or "renegades" or even "shake your rump" I CAN DO IT

[lolpenis_taco]

I will say that his guest spots on other people's songs are a little weak, however - "Biochemical Equation" with RZA he slides off the beat near the end, and "Angeles" with Ghostface he unquestionably has the worse verse (though technically a duet and not a feature spot) - but he's still a genius.

Ok, first item on the agenda: his best guest spot.

No contest for me, De La Soul's "Rock Co Kane Flow".

[Jolly Bengali]

If you count "Voices Pt. 1" on the MF Grimm album, that's it hands-down.

[Tetsujin]

I like his work on Novemeber Has Come by the Gorillaz. havent heard anything else by him.