View Full Version : "Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix" movie
kupomog
02-03-2006, 03:02 PM
*cast update: 5-25-06*
Yeah, I know, they're only just starting to film, so it's not like we can really discuss this. But they've finally confirmed some cast members and I wanna see what others think so far.
Stuff I shamelessly stole from MuggleNet (http://mugglenet.com/):
http://www.mugglenet.com/i/NEWSTHUMBNAILS/luna-evanna-1.jpg (http://www.mugglenet.com/viewer/?image_location=ootp/lunalovegood_lynch.jpg) Luna: 14-year-old Evanna Lynch from Ireland, who attended the open casting call for the role three weeks ago, will start filming at Leavesden Studios later this month. This article (http://www.emigrant.ie/article.asp?iCategoryID=81&iArticleID=18486) from 2003 most likely describes the same Evanna Lynch; she's from Termonfeckin in Co. Louth.
http://www.mugglenet.com/i/NEWSTHUMBNAILS/natalia-tonks.jpg (http://www.mugglenet.com/viewer/?image_location=ootp/natalia.jpg) Tonks: This role will be played by Natalia Tena (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1164730/). She's starred in the BBC drama Casualty and acted in movies such as About a Boy. Has a better pic at Wiki, I think.
http://www.mugglenet.com/i/NEWSTHUMBNAILS/immelda-umbridge.jpg (http://www.mugglenet.com/viewer/?image_location=ootp/imeldastaunton.jpg) Umbridge: She has been rumored to play the part for months now (saying it herself on GMTV), and WB has now officially confirmed that Imelda Staunton (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001767/) will play the nasty DADA teacher.
http://mugglenet.com/i/NEWSTHUMBNAILS/helena-1.jpg Bellatrix: Helen McCrory from Count of Monte Cristo was going to play Sirius's cousin but she is pregnant and is being replaced with Helena Bonham Carter (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000307/).
http://mugglenet.com/i/NEWSTHUMBNAILS/mwildman.jpg Magorian: Michael Wildman's (Casualty, The Merchant of Venice) agency revealed to CBBC (http://news.bbc.co.uk/cbbcnews/hi/newsid_4670000/newsid_4671400/4671410.stm) today that he would play the role of Forbidden Forest centaur Magorian in Movie 5. Right now, it's unclear whether he will be enhanced on-screen using special effects or whether the character will be computer-generated and Michael will just do a voice over.
http://mugglenet.com/i/NEWSTHUMBNAILS/kingsley.jpg Shacklebolt: CBBC Newsround (http://news.bbc.co.uk/cbbcnews/hi/newsid_4660000/newsid_4662300/4662350.stm) today reports that Warner Bros. has cast the roles of Kingsley Shacklebolt and young James Potter for the Order of the Phoenix movie. George Harris (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0364711/) (The Interpreter, Raiders of the Lost Ark) will play the Ministry Auror.
Others:
Young James Potter: Robbie Jarvis
Young Lily Evans: Susie ShinnerYoung Sirius Black: James Walters
Young Remus Lupin: James Utechin
Young Severus Snape: Alec Hopkins (http://mugglenet.com/viewer/?image_location=/ootp/alec.jpg)
Young Wormtail: Charles Hughes
Arabella Figg: Kathryn Hunter
Professor Grubby-Plank: Apple Brook
Aberforth Dumbledore: Jim McManus
Bane: Jason Piper
Amelia Bones: Sian Thomas
Technical stuff...
Director: David Yates (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0946734/)
Writer: Michael Goldenberg (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0325533/)
Release: July 13, 2007
WYSIWYG and MuggleNet make my life easy :-$
With the obscure director and change in writers, it could be a disaster... Umbridge sort of looks like how I imagined her.
grissom
02-03-2006, 03:48 PM
This is going to be interesting, tough book to translate into a movie
America: Fuck Yea!
02-03-2006, 03:50 PM
isn't the kid getting a little old?
kupomog
02-03-2006, 03:56 PM
I'll never understand why people always say the actors are getting too old when they're in the perfect age range. Radcliffe's 16, Harry's 15.
Veryjammy
02-03-2006, 04:05 PM
Strange choice for director; mainly TV work. Hmmmm
billi vanilli
02-03-2006, 04:12 PM
yeah, never heard of this 'david yates' guy... still, i expect great things.
Jamie
02-03-2006, 05:52 PM
Phoenix is my favorite Harry Potter book and I am looking forward to the film adaptation :)
Uncke Herb
02-03-2006, 06:23 PM
The characters look good, I hope they play well in the movie.
Mike Scully
02-03-2006, 06:27 PM
The screenwriter wrote the Peter Pan film so he seems competent at adaptation. No idea what to expect from Yates (though I doubt he'll make the same mistakes Columbus made). I wish Terry Gilliam would direct one of these films, as he was one of the candidates for the first one.
isn't the kid getting a little old?
Actually, the characters age in the books.
I'll never understand why people always say the actors are getting too old when they're in the perfect age range. Radcliffe's 16, Harry's 15.
I totally agree. Its something Im sick of hearing. Usually in movies or TV shows teenagers are played by people in their mid 20's. Mathew Broderick was 24 when he played highschooler Ferris Bueller. Micheal J Fox was 29 when he was still playing 17 year old Marty McFly. So why is it such a stretch for a 16 year old to play a 15 year old??
The General
02-03-2006, 06:51 PM
Imelda Staunton!? Hell yeah!
Gatorgod
02-03-2006, 08:20 PM
C.S.Lewis wrote 7 Narnia books and ended it all. How many HP books will there be?
The General
02-03-2006, 08:34 PM
C.S.Lewis wrote 7 Narnia books and ended it all. How many HP books will there be?
Uh, 7...
kevin
02-03-2006, 08:54 PM
i still have to see the fourth movie. i'll wait till hbo shows it about 700 times
Gatorgod
02-03-2006, 09:06 PM
Uh, 7...
uh, Thanks. :-/ Not being a fan of the whole thing, this news isnt well known to me. Actually I've asked alot of people who are fans and they didnt have the same answer. is Seven the answer the author gave in an interview once?
kupomog
02-03-2006, 10:10 PM
7 was the answer from the beginning, said tons of times by the author, especially to people who kept asking her if she'd write any more Harry Potter books. There are 7 school years at Hogwarts, there will only be 7 books needed to tell the story. However, there might still be side books about the HP universe, like Quidditch Through the Ages or Fantastic Beasts & Where to Find Them.
Lizard Queen
02-04-2006, 11:28 AM
Michael Goldenberg did a really good job with Contact - one of my favorite movies. So I'm looking forward to Phoenix.
Gatorgod
02-05-2006, 07:05 PM
[QUOTE=kupomoghere are 7 school years at Hogwarts, there will only be 7 books needed to tell the story.[/QUOTE]
Thanks for the Satisfying answer! 8-)
M0leman
02-05-2006, 07:10 PM
As much as I hate to admit it but I do like the Harry Potter films... more so that reading the books because the world you image in your head is nothing until you see the movie adaptions. The girl playing Luna seems sweet looking... You know when the film comes out... since it says Summer 2007... Daniel'll be 18
Jolly Bengali
02-05-2006, 07:37 PM
No amount of good casting is going to change the fundamental ridiculousness and stupidity of the most crucial parts of the book. What's needed is for the writer/director to have the courage to not be faithful to bad source material when it matters.
Jamie
02-06-2006, 02:13 AM
No amount of good casting is going to change the fundamental ridiculousness and stupidity of the most crucial parts of the book
what you talkin bout willis
As much as I hate to admit it but I do like the Harry Potter films... more so that reading the books because the world you image in your head is nothing until you see the movie adaptions. The girl playing Luna seems sweet looking... You know when the film comes out... since it says Summer 2007... Daniel'll be 18
So? Thats when the film is released, not when its being shot. By that time he'll be ready to play a 17 year old Harry in the next film.
Wonderboy
02-07-2006, 04:02 PM
Eh, OOTP was alright, but I'm not sure how it will translate to film. Though it got much praise, I didn't like GOF as an adaptation or just as a stand alone movie, and that was my favorite of the series.
kupomog
02-07-2006, 05:02 PM
So? Thats when the film is released, not when its being shot. By that time he'll be ready to play a 17 year old Harry in the next film.
And even if the book isn't out by then (and I seriously doubt it'll take forever for JK to write it), he'll still be in a decent age range to portray Harry.
Jay Leno did a "Harry Potter kid is getting so old!" joke last night and I nearly flung my remote at the TV.
Wonderboy
02-10-2006, 01:01 PM
From IMDB
Actor Gary Oldman looks unlikely to reprise his role as Sirius Black in the next Harry Potter offering, after reports he has been mysteriously axed from the wizard franchise. Oldman, who has appeared in the last two movies adapted from JK Rowling's popular children's books, has yet to be signed for a third term - even though filming for Harry Potter And The Order Of The Phoenix has already begun. The actor's manager, Douglas Urbanski, tells British newspaper The Sun, "You will be shocked to learn there are no plans for Gary to appear in the film. To say we are puzzled is an understatement at the very least! We are left with no choice but to pursue other employment for him." Vanessa Davis, spokeswoman for production company Warner Brothers, confirms no deal has been reached, but insists there is still time to resolve the confusion. She says, "With any film the priority is confirming the cast who will be on the set from the outset."
Weird
boogie down mikel
02-10-2006, 02:54 PM
weird doesn't begin to describe the idiocy of that
Jolly Bengali
02-10-2006, 03:08 PM
OK, so when I said remove the parts of the book that were bad, I didn't mean remove the one fucking thing in the book (bad execution nonetheless) that felt at all important. That's just a terrible idea.
kupomog
02-10-2006, 03:09 PM
That's kind of old;
Roles of Gary Oldman and David Thewlis confirmed
We've just been told by Warner Bros that both actors (playing Sirius Black and Lupin, respectively) are still under negotiations to appear in Order of the Phoenix - they will begin filming this summer. This comes just as rumors earlier today (http://www.mugglenet.com/newsfusion/fullnews.php?id=1773) reported the contrary.
There was also this update on MuggleNet to the rumor:
UPDATE: According to this article (http://www.mtv.com/movies/news/articles/1523096/02022006/story.jhtml?popThis=popFlipById%28%271523125%27%29;%29) on MTV.com, Gary Oldman will return as Sirius. (Click 'Meet The Cast Of "Order Of The Phoenix"' and flip through to image seven.)
You can see a "better" picture of Natalia Tena there, as well.
And more news today for those who don't research stuff:
More OOTP casting news
CBBC Newsround reports today (http://news.bbc.co.uk/cbbcnews/hi/newsid_4700000/newsid_4700700/4700716.stm) that after their absence from Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire, the Dursleys will return in the fifth movie. Newsround also reveals who will play some of the more minor roles in the film:Amelia Bones: Sian Thomas (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0859525/) will play the Head of the Magical Law Enforcement Office. She's appeared in several productions for the Royal Shakespeare Company, as well as roles in TV and film.
Dudley's gang: Piers Polkiss will be played by Jason Boyd, and Richard Macklin will play Malcolm.
Young Wormtail: The Peter Pettigrew Harry sees in Snape's Pensieve will be played by Charles Hughes.
Young Lily: We told you (http://www.mugglenet.com/newsfusion/comments.php?id=1769&page=0) on Sunday that she would be played by Susie Shinner and this has now been confirmed. Check out a photo of the actress here (http://www.mugglenet.com/viewer/?image_location=ootp/susieshinner.jpg).
Dawlish: Richard Leaf (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0494945/) will play the Ministry Auror. (UPDATE:Picture (http://www.mugglenet.com/viewer/?image_location=ootp/richard_leaf.jpg) thanks to RedFlu (http://www.redflu.com/))
Nick Shim: He's set to play Zacharias Smith. We informed you last week that Robbie Jarvis would play the young James Potter. You can now see a photo of the 19-year-old here (http://mugglenet.com/viewer/?image_location=ootp/robbie-jarvis.jpg). CBBC notes that Gary Oldman is in negotiations to return as Sirius Black. Right now, WB has no comment to make on the situation but we'll keep you posted.
Jolly Bengali
02-10-2006, 03:53 PM
They couldn't have found a better James
boogie down mikel
02-10-2006, 04:08 PM
harry's young mom is hot
Jamie
02-10-2006, 11:21 PM
Hooray, the Dursleys are back
Nightshade
02-11-2006, 02:04 PM
This is my favorite book in the series, hopefully it turns out well on screen. I'm surprised that Snape's Worst Memory is going to make it into the movie.
Wonderboy
02-15-2006, 08:52 AM
IMDB had an update on the Oldman situation.
Harry Potter producers have confirmed Gary Oldman will reprise his role as Sirius Black in Harry Potter And The Order Of The Phoenix - despite reports to the contrary. Oldman, who has appeared in the last two movies adapted from JK Rowling's popular children's books, has yet to be signed for a third term - even though filming for Harry Potter And The Order Of The Phoenix has already begun. But producer David Heyman insists there is plenty of time for Oldman to sign up: "We're not shooting his part for quite a while, and as is always the case, you begin with the parts that are most pressing. We have every intention of having Gary Oldman play Sirius Black." The 47-year-old is currently shooting Zodiac in Los Angeles with director David Fincher.
George
02-15-2006, 12:27 PM
http://www.mugglenet.com/i/NEWSTHUMBNAILS/luna-evanna-1.jpg (http://www.mugglenet.com/viewer/?image_location=ootp/lunalovegood_lynch.jpg) Luna: 14-year-old Evanna Lynch from Ireland, who attended the open casting call for the role three weeks ago, will start filming at Leavesden Studios later this month. This article (http://www.emigrant.ie/article.asp?iCategoryID=81&iArticleID=18486) from 2003 most likely describes the same Evanna Lynch; she's from Termonfeckin in Co. Louth.
she lives less than 2 miles away from me! and my uncle is acquitances with her cousin. take that, anyone who lives further away from an actor in the HP movies. what do you guys reckon she'll get paid for this?
Nightshade
02-15-2006, 07:48 PM
thats cool that you have a connection to her.
Greased Scotsman
02-16-2006, 10:43 AM
Oh yeah? Beat this: Katie Leung was in the year above me at my school (she left school in June). I talked to her quite a few times before she left for Goblet of Fire. Her little brother is in my year and I live in the next street from her and her family.
Jamie
02-16-2006, 11:02 AM
Yeah well my full name is Jamie Waylett and I play Crabbe
billi vanilli
02-16-2006, 11:32 AM
oh yeah well i'm harry
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y76/Gillman153/school.bmp
George
02-16-2006, 11:35 AM
:laughing negro:
kupomog
09-27-2006, 07:42 PM
Ginormous bump because Mugglenet (http://mugglenet.com/) has tons of hi-res new stills up showing Luna, Umbridge, the Dursley's, and Dumbledore's Army, along with some random photographs taken of Tonks (hawt).
Everyone should check it out!
P.S. I fucking HATE Harry's hair.
mr. broom
09-27-2006, 07:57 PM
They cut everybody's hair. Damn.
And either the girl who plays Cho got replaced (boo) or they messed with her hair to the point that she looks way different.
kupomog
09-27-2006, 08:12 PM
It's the same girl. Sigh. I've never cared so much about hair before but fuuuuck.
not loving harry's hair either, and i agree about cho, she looks way different.
kevin
09-27-2006, 08:18 PM
[kevin] 10:41 pm: SPANE KILLS DUMBLEDORE
[kevin] 10:41 pm: SNAPE
[kevin] 10:41 pm: SPAIN KILLS DUMBLEDORE!
[kevin] 10:42 pm: damn spaniards
...yeah so i haven't even seen the fourth movie yet. i need to get on that
Probably my favorite Potter book, looking forward to it!
Henrik P
09-28-2006, 07:03 AM
I'm really looking forward to this movie. This my favourite Harry Potter book yet. I was a bit disappointed with the fourth movie because so much was cut from it. I'm hoping they'll make this movie longer. Or release an Uncut version.
Jim Jones
09-28-2006, 12:50 PM
def gonna see it
kupomog
11-20-2006, 01:35 PM
Teaser trailer is out.
http://mugglenet.com/
Helena Bonham Carter :bang:
grissom
11-20-2006, 03:44 PM
Fucker keeps crashing Firefox when I get about 3/4 of the way through, but it's awesome anyway. Can't wait for this.
:bang:
conor.
11-20-2006, 04:02 PM
i stopped reading after the 4th book so i am very much looking forward to this.
Henrik P
11-21-2006, 06:13 AM
Oooooh. Exciting. Seems like the best one yet.
kupomog
12-03-2006, 12:02 PM
Whole bunch of preview clips up at Youtube from Mugglenet (clips aired on ABC Family).
Shows 30 second spots for some characters and the director.
http://www.youtube.com/user/muggleflix
grissom
12-03-2006, 12:11 PM
Interesting clips. Thanks for posting those kupo.
kupomog
04-22-2007, 08:44 AM
Internation trailer premiered:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLud6yM47u8
I likes :D
Although that really quick shot of Harry pounding the wall in frustration makes me giggle..
General Jack D. Ripper
04-22-2007, 09:11 AM
I hated this book the first time I read it because I hated Harry, but I liked it the second time I read it (but I was still annoyed by Harry). I absolutely love to hate Dolores Umbridge. I hope they do her justice in the movie.
I heard they're cutting everything with Ron being on the quidditch team, but leaving Grawp. WTF? Most of the new characters look good, but for some reason, I always pictured Luna with black hair.
dont know if anybody else has posted this yet but i'll post it anyway
heres a link to the trailer for harry pottor and the order of the pheonix
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14KlsramMHg
Kamerica
04-22-2007, 11:05 AM
two posts above you bro
grissom
04-22-2007, 11:55 AM
International trailer is pretty cool. Movie is looking great so far.
Henrik P
04-23-2007, 06:04 AM
Zomg. This movie is gonna be so cool.
Jens. E
04-23-2007, 11:19 AM
Great trailer, really looking forward to this one
kupomog
04-24-2007, 06:39 PM
Heh, another trailer already. This one from Yahoo, has a few new things.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4zQXUt5BD8
<3 Bellatrix
General Jack D. Ripper
04-24-2007, 07:18 PM
What part was Bellatrix in? I didn't see her. Anyway, good trailer.
kupomog
04-24-2007, 07:26 PM
There's a very fast flash of her around 17 seconds in, I think that might be her getting out of Azkaban at 1:37, then there's a good shot of her in the Ministry battle at 1:45, then you see her again in the fireplace at 1:55.
StrideR
04-24-2007, 08:36 PM
Shit.
Of the last 3 books, Order of the Phoenix was my least favorite, but I'm digging this movie so far.
I like how at the end of the trailer(s), the music goes back to the original theme, just to kinda remind you how far along the characters have come.
That trailer is terrific. Looking forward to the film.
morbot
04-24-2007, 11:44 PM
Yea StrideR I got the same feeling when they played the little jingle at the end of this trailer. We've come a long way from the little kids playing around with magic heh.
Lookin forward to this movie, the HP movies haven't let me down so far.
kupomog
07-04-2007, 07:40 AM
HBO First Look for OotP:
http://mugglenet.com/app/news/full_story/1045
MuggleNet actually has links to a lot of new OotP clips including leaving Privet Drive, talking to Lupin (I assume in Grimmauld) and a bunch more that I don't remember at the moment..
BigButtSkinner
07-04-2007, 12:30 PM
My friend and I have been planning to see this movie on release night ever since the release date was announced (and then changed at the 10th hour). I'm pissed that none of our nearby Imax theaters are playing the movie on the 11th. I've never even seen an Imax movie though, so I guess I don't know what I'm missing...
Henrik P
07-04-2007, 12:37 PM
So has it been released in the UK or what?
So has it been released in the UK or what?
What,the movie or the book?Neither of them have anyway.The movie's released on the 11th,and the book on the 21st.
kupomog
07-04-2007, 12:50 PM
So has it been released in the UK or what?
The London premiere just happened.
http://mugglenet.com/app/news/full_story/1044
Snack Related Mishap
07-04-2007, 01:46 PM
Emma Watson is soo fucking hot.
Just thought i'd interject that.
The mayor of Albuquerque
07-04-2007, 02:07 PM
Excited for opening night. HP opening nights are always fun.
Nebuchanezzar
07-04-2007, 08:24 PM
The Ministry of Magic looks fantastic in the movie. I'm really pleased to see that they at least didn't screw that up.
General Jack D. Ripper
07-04-2007, 10:32 PM
This was my least fave HP book when I first read it but I liked it a lot the second time. I loooooovvvee to hate Umbridge. One of the best parts of the book is that the final battle is different in the sense that they actually have to fight their way out whereas in the other ones someone or something comes through to help them.
I wonder how they'll make that work considering they left out the important scene with Fudge in the last movie. And Harry giving Fred and George the money.
Movie's looking great, but I still can't get over them dropping Ron's quidditch plot. I'd rather they dropped Grawp.
I think the actress of Luna's voice fits the character well.
Nebuchanezzar
07-04-2007, 10:40 PM
Well, Grawp is somewhat more important than that Quidditch garbage.
blueduck37
07-05-2007, 05:17 AM
But, but... Weasley is our king!!!
Nebuchanezzar
07-05-2007, 06:13 AM
I thought that the qudditch thing in HP5 was boring as hell. :( Was I the only one?
So long as they don't stuff up that duel between Voldemort and Dumbledore at the end. Oh I'll be a messy wreck if that doesn't live up to standard. :(
Alexisf
07-05-2007, 07:08 AM
hi
Alexisf
07-05-2007, 07:08 AM
hai?
kupomog
07-05-2007, 07:53 AM
I wasn't very interested in the Quidditch either but probably only because Harry wasn't playing OR watching most of the time. That was a nice moment for Ron, though.
Mr_Scorpion
07-06-2007, 02:57 AM
To be honest, if they're going to cut anything out of the movies, I want it to be Quidditch. Maybe it's just because I'm not into sports, but Quidditch has never really interested me at all. I'd rather have Quidditch scrapped entirely than miss a moment of screentime for Snape and the Order.
Just found out my sister's taking me to see this at most a few days after it's released :bang:
Moose of Doom!
07-06-2007, 05:27 PM
the local aviation museum (god, it's even lame to type) announced they'll be showing it in their IMAX theater, mainly because the museum is close to bankruptcy and they figured out showing harry potter would make more money than coral reef adventure or walking the moon.
grissom
07-11-2007, 07:05 AM
Anybody else go to a midnight show last night?
I thought it was pretty good, but there was a little wasted potential. The department of mysteries was my favorite part of the book, and way too much of that got cut. It also felt like the ending was a little rushed. In the book I remember Harry having several visions of Sirius being tortured by Voldemort before he decided to try and help him. It seemed like they rushed that whole plot in the movie. I wouldn't have been opposed to it actually being a little bit longer so they could've included some of the stuff they cut out. Overall I enjoyed it, but I think it could've been a little bit better. I do have to say that they did a fantastic job with Umbridge though. That's exactly how I pictured her while reading the book.
The mayor of Albuquerque
07-11-2007, 07:22 AM
Stoked for tonight.
I agree that cutting Quiddich is one of the better places to trim a few minutes, but only because we've seen plenty of it already. It's not a sports movie, after all. Bummer for Ron, but he'll get his screen time.
Kiyosuki
07-11-2007, 08:06 AM
I saw it last night, but I don't want to say too much yet until at least a few more see it. Although I imagine many here read the book, but for those who haven't anyways.
Generally I liked it, I do like that its getting darker and darker. There is two particular things that bugged me though that I'll mention later. I am also interested in hearing what you guys who read the book have to say, since I've never read it myself.
StarskyMaxwell
07-11-2007, 10:56 AM
Saw it, enjoyed it, but who the hell was that kid?
Seriously, "Nigel 2nd Year" (or so the credits say) was right next to Harry doing absolutely nothing for about half the film. There's got to be some sort of backstory in there.
comes out tomorrow in the UK. Still not sure if i'm gonna go and see it in the opening week. Theres alot of thoughts being thrown around that the films get better each year which is probably quite true seeing as the acting seems to get better each movie. Dont know if i will bother travelling for one hour on the bus to see it this weekend. I'm gonna see what people think about it in this thread over the next few days. The trailer makes it look awesome but i never really thought much happened in the book(aside from sirius dying) but I'm sure this should be as good as the last two.
Saw it at midnight last night... :)
It was really really great. The girl they chose to play Luna Lovegood's character was perfect.
One really minor detail pissed me off, but I won't get into it.
GO SEE IT!!!!!
D DEBBS
07-11-2007, 01:26 PM
To: Starsky Maxwell
Nigel is the brother of Colin Creevey (the photobug from Chamber of Secrets).
Wild film, but the 'I Must Not Tell Lies' part made me look away from the screen ( the kids at the theater all hooted when Harry and Cho kissed).
doyle
07-11-2007, 01:57 PM
feel asleep. harry potter fans i was with told me it sucked.
grissom
07-11-2007, 03:35 PM
the kids at the theater all hooted when Harry and Cho kissed).
That happened at my theater too. I was with such an annoying crowd. People laughed at stuff that wasn't funny through the whole thing, and some girl sitting behind me kept quoting a bunch of said unfunny lines to her friends.
Kiyosuki
07-11-2007, 04:44 PM
Okay I'm spoilerizing it but I gotta ask you guys who read this a question.
Was there more conclusion in the end of the book? I liked this movie a lot but my one thing is that after Dumbledore fights off Voldemort everything starts to feel a little rushed. Like there was supposed to be more that happened after. Does Harry at least reconcile with Cho? Apologize or anything? (I know they don't get together.) That was one thing that bugged me how they left that open, the last time we see her she's all crying and being treated like dirt in that hallway. Its kinda sad. lol Its like if Harry and the army get on the train after, say how they have eachother, and one of them mentions "Hey, shouldn't we apologize to Cho?". "Oh yeah...her. Nah I'm tired." Also does Harry do more or say anything more in regards to the fact his Godfather just died?
grissom
07-11-2007, 04:57 PM
Was there more conclusion in the end of the book? I liked this movie a lot but my one thing is that after Dumbledore fights off Voldemort everything starts to feel a little rushed. Like there was supposed to be more that happened after. Does Harry at least reconcile with Cho? Apologize or anything? (I know they don't get together.) That was one thing that bugged me how they left that open, the last time we see her she's all crying and being treated like dirt in that hallway. Its kinda sad. lol Its like if Harry and the army get on the train after, say how they have eachother, and one of them mentions "Hey, shouldn't be apologize to Cho?". "Oh yeah...her. Nah I'm tired." Also does Harry do more or say anything more in regards to the fact his Godfather just died?
I haven't read the book in a while (started it again today actually), but from what I remember, there was some kind of resolution to the Harry and Cho plot. I know it wasn't left open like it was in the movie. Harry is also a lot more upset about Sirius's death. I found it pretty odd that in the movie he basically said nothing about it after it happened. Somebody else who remembers this stuff better may be able to give you a more complete answer on this though.
Matt B.
07-11-2007, 07:22 PM
Just got back from the movie. Excellent
I haven't read the book in a while (started it again today actually), but from what I remember, there was some kind of resolution to the Harry and Cho plot. I know it wasn't left open like it was in the movie. Harry is also a lot more upset about Sirius's death. I found it pretty odd that in the movie he basically said nothing about it after it happened. Somebody else who remembers this stuff better may be able to give you a more complete answer on this though.
Neb's just finished reading it, perhaps he can answer.
Jim Jones
07-11-2007, 08:20 PM
my faggot brother fell asleep while watching it. lets hope that doesnt happen to me.
Mike Scully
07-11-2007, 08:30 PM
Was there more conclusion in the end of the book? I liked this movie a lot but my one thing is that after Dumbledore fights off Voldemort everything starts to feel a little rushed. Like there was supposed to be more that happened after. Does Harry at least reconcile with Cho? Apologize or anything? (I know they don't get together.) That was one thing that bugged me how they left that open, the last time we see her she's all crying and being treated like dirt in that hallway. Its kinda sad. lol Its like if Harry and the army get on the train after, say how they have eachother, and one of them mentions "Hey, shouldn't we apologize to Cho?". "Oh yeah...her. Nah I'm tired." Also does Harry do more or say anything more in regards to the fact his Godfather just died?
I just finished rereading actually.
In the book, it's actually one of Cho's friends who betrays the DA (willingly and not by force). Cho tries to apologize on her behalf and defends her as having made a mistake. Harry doesn't accept the apology, they get into a row with her, and the relationship ends. Cho also suspected something going on between Harry and Hermione. There's no more interaction between them in the next book.
After the Ministry fight, Harry lets out all his anger and grief at Dumbledore, accusing him for not understanding him, forcing Sirius to stay cooped up in Grimmauld Place, trusting Snape even though Snape stopped the Occlumency lessons, and he basically says he doesn't want to live anymore. Dumbledore says he should have been more open with Harry but he forgot what it was like to be so young, reveals the prophecy in full, and explains why he never told him before (he wanted Harry to remain happy as long as possible). The scene ends with Dumbledore tearing up. It's actually a very long and emotional scene.
General Jack D. Ripper
07-11-2007, 09:17 PM
It was good in terms of the basic story and direction and acting, but I have plenty of gripes about it, pretty much all of which I wouldn't have if I hadn't read the book. I just noticed everything they left out, all the scenes they cut down, but I guess it was kind of inevitable for such a long book, though I wouldn't have minded a slightly longer movie in exchange for restoring a couple of scenes. Things like the whole Dept. of Mysteries part and the majority of the Ministry storyline could've been developed to fit the book better easily.
I'm not sure how I'd rank this movie currently because it was good in theory but it was rather disapointing when compared to the book.
They seriously couldn't have added ten seconds to show Cho's friend? Or end the Cho storyline somehow?
Nebuchanezzar
07-11-2007, 09:29 PM
God, get rid of the spoiler tags would we? It's pretty obvious that in Harry Potter thread, most of us would have read a book that came out about three years or so ago, yeah? I, uh, don't know how to use the spoiler tags anyway, so I guess if I'm offending anyone by revealing plot elements that we're all highly familiar with, then uh, add 'em?
In the book I remember Harry having several visions of Sirius being tortured by Voldemort before he decided to try and help him.
Nope. It was that one use of the cruciatus curse, followed by Voldemort about to use another then Harry woke up screaming.
I do have to say that they did a fantastic job with Umbridge though. That's exactly how I pictured her while reading the book.
Forgive me if I'm wrong, but wasn't Umbridge supposed to be frog like? You know...fat, short, beady eyes? The Umbridge in the trailers looks nothing like what I expected her to be.
After the Ministry fight, Harry lets out all his anger and grief at Dumbledore, accusing him for not understanding him, forcing Sirius to stay cooped up in Grimmauld Place, trusting Snape even though Snape stopped the Occlumency lessons, and he basically says he doesn't want to live anymore. Dumbledore says he should have been more open with Harry but he forgot what it was like to be so young, reveals the prophecy in full, and explains why he never told him before (he wanted Harry to remain happy as long as possible). The scene ends with Dumbledore tearing up. It's actually a very long and emotional scene.
Is this to say they cut that out of the movie entirely? I cannot really see Gambon playing the part well for the life of me, but I'd sure as hell much rather it be there, than not be there at all.
Was the duel between Dumbledore and Voldemort any good? I recall that particular duel to be the absolute climax of the book, so I'm expecting big things from it. I have my fears that it won't translate well to the movie though. I mean, it was a fairly slow paced duel, with a lot of dialogue. I imagine that the director would have had to tread a fine line between both combatants being too lazy about the whole thing, or the thing coming off too swordfighty. What was it like?
I'm going on Saturday btw.
EDIT: I'm not too concerned about editing out that Cho garbage myself. Did anyone else simply not really care about Cho?
SubSane
07-12-2007, 12:32 AM
Saw this on Tuesday. It was OK, but the third film is still tops for me.
Now, I really should watch that fourth film...
Nebuchanezzar
07-12-2007, 12:44 AM
I hear that the whole duel between Voldemort and Dumbledore was kinda cut short, and that the Fountain of the Magical Brethren did not come alive...at all. Sounds like the movie is full of suck.
Kiyosuki
07-12-2007, 01:44 AM
Well I thought it was pretty good. I don't really think just because it doesn't have certain elements of the book that automatically means it sucks as a movie. Thats logic about book adaptations I've never been able to fully understand. Books often have a lot more room to expand on things than film does, they're very different formats. So as long as it works well as a movie it generally still has a chance.
I do think that Cho needed some closure though, a little bit more of an expanded ending would have helped it as a film. But other than that I thought it was pretty fun.
Neb to use spoiler tags you just type spoiler, and /spoiler in brackets.
Mr_Scorpion
07-12-2007, 05:02 AM
Is this to say they cut that out of the movie entirely? I cannot really see Gambon playing the part well for the life of me, but I'd sure as hell much rather it be there, than not be there at all.
I'll use spoiler tags, just in case someone who hasn't seen the movie wants to be surprised by what is and isn't there.
That scene is cut extremely short and is actually only seen in a brief flashback after the fact. Basically, we see Dumbledore confirm the meaning of the prophecy and apologize for not telling Harry sooner. Harry doesn't freak out at all and he never comes close to smashing anything. Gambon does a decent job in the scene, but then again it doesn't require quite as much as it would have if taken directly from the text
Was the duel between Dumbledore and Voldemort any good?
The scene is quite a bit different from the book, but I thought it was very well done. The fountain doesn't come to life, but they trade some very cool spells back and forth, and basically trash the Ministry HQ in the process. The possession scene is really cool too - I actually think it's a slight improvement over the way it was portrayed in the book.
Anyway, despite some complaints, I have to say I loved it. After being very disappointed by GOF, I was wary about this one, but they really pulled it off well. The focus was a lot clearer this time around, and they avoided the unnecessarily lengthy set pieces that disrupted the flow of GOF. Overall, OOTP is tied with POA for my favorite of the series so far, and I can see it overtaking it once I re-watch it on dvd.
Most of my favorite scenes and moments in the HP series happen in OOTP, and all of them were translated to the screen very well. Luna Lovegood is possibly my favorite character in the series, and I thought the girl who played her did an outstanding job. Her final scene (when she's looking for her stolen stuff) was handled perfectly, which was a relief since it very well could be my favorite scene in the entire series. The dementor attack at the beginning was also very cool, and surprisingly tense. I would have liked for the movie to go more in depth about Neville's parents and Snape's memories, but other than that I don't have many complaints.
boogie down mikel
07-12-2007, 05:14 AM
i loved the movie but there were a few things that i hope dontspoil some of the 7th book for me
a) bellatrix doesn't use avada kedavra on sirius
b) harry didn't get the two way mirror
c) it was never revealed that kreacher was working with bella
d) mcgonnigal didn't get her ass kicked
e) the prophesy was broken by lucius not neville (maybe lucius gets killed by voldie?)
f) everyone hears the prophesy in this one in stead of just harry and neville
g) they showed a lot of footage when harry was fighting off voldemort's possession....maybe a hint to the final battle?
that being said i really enjoyed the movie, umbridge while didnt physically look like what i pioctured was portrayed extremely well, luna lovegood was flawless and prefectly portrayed imo, tonks was hot and used well for the brief appearences, and helena bonham carter was spectacular....cant wait for her to get more screen time
also i highly reccommend seeing it in imax, the ministry fight in 3d is crazy
Nebuchanezzar
07-12-2007, 06:03 AM
^Apart from the absense of the avada kedavra curse (which means we'll have to deal with a tonne of 'Sirius isn't dead!' theories), all I can see is that a helluva lot of creative liberties were taken with the adaption. Some, I can see are kind of okish. Others just seem like pointless ways to differentiate the movies from the [better] books. What exactly is the point of possibly confusing a helluva lot of people in making Lucius destroy the prophecy, or making everyone hear the prophecy?
Well I thought it was pretty good. I don't really think just because it doesn't have certain elements of the book that automatically means it sucks as a movie. Thats logic about book adaptations I've never been able to fully understand. Books often have a lot more room to expand on things than film does, they're very different formats. So as long as it works well as a movie it generally still has a chance.
Yes, but when the climax of the book (and I don't think anyone disagrees with the idea that the battle in the ministry is the climax) is transformed beyond all recognition to create what seems to be a universally hated scene, I think we all have reason to be a little pissed off about the whole matter. I mean, for me, reading that chapter was one of the highlights of the whole series for me, as it showed the two most powerful wizards face to face, trading blows, using all sorts of magic that none of us have ever seen before. Now, from what I hear at least, half of the magic that Dumbledore used to make himself look so powerful (in both defending Harry, himself and attacking Voldemort) is completely absent. The peak of the book has seemingly been dulled down for cinema audience. To me, that's senseless and a mindless book adaption.
Of course, I haven't seen the movie, so I shouldn't be making such absolute comments about the movie just yet. Mr_Scorpion says that despite the Fountain not coming to life, the spell trading is still quite good. As long as they don't degenerate to another Priori Incantatem beam pushing sequence (which was fine once, between Voldemort and Harry) then I probably won't be all that pissed off about it.
The mayor of Albuquerque
07-12-2007, 08:02 AM
The final battle sequence is filmed just fine. It does suffer what the entire movie suffers - a lack of time and sometimes explanation.
Overall, though, other than the fact that cramming 700 pages into 2.5 hours requirs things to be left out, this is a great movie. They don't waste much time anywhere and very little of the story is used on introductions and things like that. It's dark, emotional, and has all the necessary scenes from the book. It's got humor, a great minor villain in Umbridge (looks like in the book or not, this role is played perfectly), and of course it is visually fantastic.
kid_presentable
07-12-2007, 09:25 AM
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conor.
07-12-2007, 09:43 AM
So I went to the theater 30 minutes before the showing I wanted to go to last night, turns out all the night showings (5-11 pm showings, which I believe there were 5 of) are sold out until Friday at 9 p.m. which seems ridiculous. Nevertheless I decided to buy tickets for tomorrow's 9 p.m. showing. When I was leaving the theater last night I was offered two pairs of Potter tickets for 25 bucks. Never been offered a scalped ticket to my movie theater before.
BigButtSkinner
07-12-2007, 02:55 PM
**Warning: nerdy angry rant below!!**
saw it last night and I have to admit, I didn't like it as much as Goblet of Fire. Being a hardcore fan of the books, I was disappointed with how much stuff was changed around, taken out, and shortened. Also, what the heck happened to Ron?? The poor guy had like, 6 lines. I would have liked to see more of Draco too. The final battle was handled okay (I was SO glad that they didn't leave out Dumbledore addressing Voldy as "Tom"), although it just didn't feel long enough. And the movie seemed to end VERY abruptly. The Dumbledore/Harry office scene at the end, which was an entire chapter in the book, was reduced to like thirty seconds. And I was disappointed with how they handled Sirius's death at the end. Sure, they showed a nice, silent emotional piece of Harry screaming in agony and all, but at the end of the movie it just felt like, "Yeah so Sirius is dead. Bummer. Hey Ron, you done with that chocolate frog?"
I will say that both Luna Lovegood and Umbridge were AWESOME. Oh, and the most awesome cheesy line ever:
Shacklebolt: "that man's got STYLE."
General Jack D. Ripper
07-12-2007, 03:40 PM
I prefered that line in the book when Phineas said it.
morbot
07-12-2007, 03:54 PM
I thought heard Bella hit him with the avada kedavra curse in the movie and he fell back thru the curtain thing...
Yea... there's a lot missing from the book in this latest movie... but then again the book was crazy long. Overall, a good film... maybe not the best in the series... but good.
It was all story progression and business-like... side stories weren't developed much (Harry & Cho, Weasley twins development of their joke business)... just barely touched on. I think if they had picked one to flesh out it would've added a little more to the HP "world" sense.
kupomog
07-12-2007, 03:56 PM
tonks was hot and used well for the brief appearences
Awesome :bang:
Seeing it on Tuesday I guess :o|
I'm trying to lobby for Friday, though.
Jim Jones
07-12-2007, 04:25 PM
the spoiler things are unnecessary. a lot of people seeing the movie read the book already.
Moose of Doom!
07-12-2007, 04:30 PM
it cut out a lot (altho that really should be expected) but it didn't feel too choppy except right around when they flew to the ministry at the end. but it was the first harry potter movie with product placement, so that made me happy.
it was nice to see they toned down harry's uberangst from the book and the "must not tell lies" callback in the forest was a really good addition.
i watched sorcerer's stone for the first time in ages today, after the last 3 we've gotten it hasnt aged well.
kreacher's appearance was completely pointless unless you already knew in about the "dont cut kreacher out or you're fucked come the 7th movie" thing from rowling.
didnt bellatrix (it was weird seeing helena bonham carter out of a burton movie) scream out "AVADA-" before hitting sirius? if not, i thought her singing "i killed sirius black" while running through the lobby was kind of an indication.
General Jack D. Ripper
07-12-2007, 07:17 PM
Awesome :bang:
Seeing it on Tuesday I guess :o|
I'm trying to lobby for Friday, though.
Just because I thought you'd want to know, Bellatrix was great in the film.
kupomog
07-12-2007, 07:19 PM
:glomp:
grissom
07-12-2007, 07:27 PM
didnt bellatrix (it was weird seeing helena bonham carter out of a burton movie) scream out "AVADA-" before hitting sirius? if not, i thought her singing "i killed sirius black" while running through the lobby was kind of an indication.
I'm pretty sure I heard her say the spell before Sirius hit the curtain. Wouldn't have made much sense otherwise.
Nebuchanezzar
07-12-2007, 10:55 PM
didnt bellatrix (it was weird seeing helena bonham carter out of a burton movie) scream out "AVADA-" before hitting sirius? if not, i thought her singing "i killed sirius black" while running through the lobby was kind of an indication.
In the book? No. It was described as a flash of light, then he fell through the veil with his eyes still open, with his facial expression changing as he realised what was happening before he fell through. For all we know, it could have been a spell not unlike the one Dumbledore uses on Voldemort a bit later. She obviously knew what the veil was used for though (hence her screaming), and it suggests that it'll play a bit of a part in the next book, methinks.
Reservoir Dog
07-12-2007, 11:11 PM
I lost interest in the book pretty early on. Movie was no different.
Moose of Doom!
07-12-2007, 11:35 PM
In the book? No. It was described as a flash of light, then he fell through the veil with his eyes still open, with his facial expression changing as he realised what was happening before he fell through. For all we know, it could have been a spell not unlike the one Dumbledore uses on Voldemort a bit later. She obviously knew what the veil was used for though (hence her screaming), and it suggests that it'll play a bit of a part in the next book, methinks.
i was referring to the movie, but rowling has said he's "definitely" dead.
also, just found out the talking letter at the beginning was voiced by daisy from spaced. awesome.
Kiyosuki
07-13-2007, 12:21 AM
Mmm, so quite a bit was left out after all.
I can definitely see that even without reading the book, although it is inevitable since these Harry Potter books have just so much in them. The end did definitely feel like they had to wrap things up quick though, which even though its understandable, its still the one thing that really bugs me since its wrapping up the main story, not a side story. I don't think a mere 5-10 extra minutes would have really hurt the movie that much, and it could have wrapped it up better.
I guess maybe its best left for the DVD.
matt228
07-13-2007, 11:31 AM
the spoiler things are unnecessary. a lot of people seeing the movie read the book already.
I'm glad I saw the film before I read this thread, as I have not read the book. I've read the first three and to be honest prefer the films.
Brilliant film, saw it early yesterday afternoon in Durham. It's definitely not a children's film (good job it was a 12A)! Awesome effects and tremendous acting. I noticed that many of the characters (mainly teachers) were back and all were played well by the actors (especially Alan Rickman and Maggie Smith). I still miss Richard Harris for Dumbledore, but Michael Gambon works as hard as is possible to continue the role well.
Just 16 months until The Half-Blood Prince (and I don't want any spoilers as I do not plan on reading the book!).
penny
07-13-2007, 10:25 PM
ron and hermione are prefects...hello? i can't believe they left that out. it's strange how neville and dobby's parts keep getting switched, too (gillyweed and now the room of requirement). i'm so bummed there wasn't more on snape's occlumency lessons (and what happened to the pensieve??). i just got home from the movie, and i'm far too tired to give a thorough review. i thought umbridge and luna were spot on, though. pretty entertaining movie despite how much was changed/left out.
Nebuchanezzar
07-14-2007, 06:32 AM
Well, I was fairly pleased. Like most people I guess, I was a little dissapointed with how it was going in the beggining, which was unspeakably dissimilar to how I pictured the novel, but as the movie progressed it got much better. I'm not a great fan of how Gambon has played Dumbledore in the last two movies (he was fine in HP3), specifically when he's rude and condescending to his students, but he came around in the end to be fairly close to the Dumbledore I pictured.
Loved the duel scene, which was one of my biggest fears going into the movie. While the enchanting of the Fountain of Magical Brethren was absent, the little wand beam between the two was fine. I'm aware that I was critisising that type of portrayal of a duel just before, but it seems perfectly acceptable so long as it's not the only way in which the two wizards duel. Gambon and Fiennes both played their parts spectacularly in that scene, and despite its obvious deficiencies I was pretty darn impressed. Oh, I loved the way that Dumbledore appeared in the fire (looking furious, which is something that Harris would have been utterly unable to do), also that Fudge actually saw Voldemort apparate. On the other hand, they botched that particular scene in having Fudge exclaim at the end "HE'S BACK!" like a school girl. The most emotional scene in the movie is bookended by a girlish yelp from Fudge. Hmmmph.
I don't know if people picked up on it (judging by the amount of moaning and groaning here), but most of the important dialogue, to the tune of "you can love!" that was spoken in the office was spoken by Dumbledore, to Harry, while he was possessed. It was a different touch, one that showed humanity in Dumbledore and a conscious showing of his knowledge of love, rather than Harry just kinda realising it. I prefer the book, obviously, but I thought that part was pulled off quite effectively. Anyway, point is that it would have been unnessecary for Dumbledore to speak the same basic idea twice.
The veil was another big part that I thought was done quite well. I pictured it nothing like that when reading the book, but the way it was filmed was far better than I ever pictured it. The dais, arch and veil were all looking much more ominous than I could have ever imagined, and I thought it was pulled off spectacularly. Only complaint for that part was that Dumbledore was absent, and that Bellatrix used the death curse on Sirius which confused matters a tiny bit (a few people in the cinema yelled out "what?" when they heard her mutter the incantation). Still, nice scene.
I didn't know that apparition involved flight :silly:
Those were most of the important parts for me. It wasn't a spectacular movie, but the fantastic climax more than made up for some of the crappier parts (trial by the Wizengamot, 'Dudley Demented', lack of fountain, and the endless reminders that the director/screenwriter appeared to be changing things for the hell of it). Yeah...I'd see it again.
Saw it today,thought it was excellent.Even better than I expected.I was slightly dissapointed that certain parts of the book weren't included,but I knew that I would be.However they had done it,there's always gonna be fans who are upset that they're favorite bits weren't in it,so I didn't mind that much.I think this is probably the best film of the series so far.*****
just got back from the cinema and I think its brilliant. So many ways in which the scenes looked much like I imagined them. The acting was alot better than I expected and the characters captured the exact style that is written in the book. But it could have done with a little more of sticking to the actual happennings in the books' plot rather than pretty much almost pull off its own version of the story.
Movie wise, I would consider this not the best yet but certainly an alright movie. Story wise, it probably comes in 4th.
sacrelicious
07-14-2007, 03:07 PM
Ok, so all the Harry Potter movies have been adaptations of the book. I realize that, so usually modifying stuff slightly has not been too much of a problem...until now. OotP was the worst adaptation of all the HP movies. It started too slow and ended too quickly. Even if it wasn't based on a book and a completely original story, the movie had bad pacing. The movie also featured too much Umbridge, even if she did have a central role, it left the other professors out, especially Snape, which is not cool.
Nebuchanezzar
07-14-2007, 06:59 PM
Certainly good sir, certainly.
I also noticed that, as I mentioned briefly (and kinda touching on what you said), that parts of the book were changed for the hell of it. I mean, it was almost as if the screenwriter hadn't actually read the book, and had nothing but contempt for the books. I mean, can someone explain to me how they can justify changing the flight from Privet Drive from around the clouds, to down in the Thames River? Sure, it looks good, but it throws continuity out of the window (Tonks and Harry nearly flew into a muggle boat! HE WAS ABOUT TO BE EXPELLED FOR DOING MAGIC IN FRONT OF A MUGGLE!). It's not as if they needed that scene to make the movie impressive either, as a whole lot more time could have been devoted elsewhere. Another example - the fireworks going off in the exam. Why? Why are these students, including Hermione, running out into the foyer when she could be in the exam? Why did Harry have the vision there in the foyer, when it was a billion times more dramatic to have him screaming in the exam hall? Why?
Nebuchanezzar
07-16-2007, 07:35 AM
Hey, what did you people think of the veil?
http://media.the-leaky-cauldron.org/gallery/films/OOTP/trailers/ootp3rdtvspotcaps/movies_ootp_us_3rdtvspot_36.jpg
Kiyosuki
07-16-2007, 07:47 AM
Another example - the fireworks going off in the exam. Why? Why are these students, including Hermione, running out into the foyer when she could be in the exam? Why did Harry have the vision there in the foyer, when it was a billion times more dramatic to have him screaming in the exam hall? Why?
Well like I said I didn't read the book so I don't know exactly how it differs from it, but why would she and the students run out instead of continuing the exam? Well, they including Hermione didn't approve of Umbridge's methods, and were openly embracing the breaking of her rules almost like it was their duty. So I don't think its that much of a far cry at all for them to just say "fuck this" to the exams and just watch their arch enemy be humiliated by the Weasley twins. I can't really tell you why they changed it but I guess they just wanted to make it more visually appealing a scene.
Nebuchanezzar
07-16-2007, 07:50 AM
Yes yes, but these were OWLs, which were stressed consistently throughout the year as affecting the future of young wizards and witches, deciding careers and so forth. Couple that importance, as well as Hermiones dangerous obsession with grades and schooling and taking those matters seriously, and you can see why some might question the decision to have Hermione walk out of one of the most important exams of her life.
Once again, seems to show contempt for the book, changing things for the hell of it.
billi vanilli
07-16-2007, 01:18 PM
this was a good movie which i enjoyed. multiple people telling me i looked like harry on the way out of the theatre, though.. that was just weird
morbot
07-16-2007, 01:26 PM
multiple people telling me i looked like harry on the way out of the theatre, though.. that was just weird No weird would have been if you had worn a gryphandor scarf and ran around pretending to cast spells on them.
it would have also been awesome.
coltonwiggum
07-18-2007, 06:42 PM
Hey, what did you people think of the veil?
I thought they had an interesting take on it. It wasn't like I had imagined it, but it was great. They made it look much more mysterious and magical.
I saw this a few days ago, and I thought it was brilliant. It's my second favorite Potter film (I still think Chamber of Secrets is the best). I loved Umbidge; she was exactly how I imagined her in the book, as was Bellatrix. However, there were still quite a few imperfections and I'm not proud to say that after seeing it, my sister and her boyfriend and I listed numerous things that had been changed or completely omitted from the film.
The main thing I would have been interested in seeing was Neville with his parents at the hospital...I was disappointed when Mr. Weasley just suddenly turned up at the Order headquarters.
Apart from that, excellent film.
Moose of Doom!
07-19-2007, 07:52 AM
No weird would have been if you had worn a gryphandor scarf and ran around pretending to cast spells on them.
it would have also been awesome.
the gay guy from mean girls (or at least someone bearing an incredible resemblence) was doing that at mine after the movie. it was more creepy than magical.
creepy and jiggly.
Hey, what did you people think of the veil?
That was the best damn veil I've ever seen.Well,the second best.
StrideR
07-19-2007, 01:20 PM
I tend to give movies a pass for changing stuff from the books they were adapted from. Order of the Phoenix was the longest book of the series and it felt like it. If anything, I was worried the filmmakers wouldn't take out enough from the books (although, no quidditch :(). I do think Ron could've used a little more screen time, but aside from that, most of the changes were done to make the movie tighter, and for the most part, they did.
Wonderboy
07-19-2007, 03:08 PM
Saw it today and aside from the given adaptation problems I loved it. The entire ministry scene at the end had me clutched to my seat from the start to finish. I have to say though, this wasn't my favorite book, and as such I only read it once or twice, but this was easily my favorite of the films (perhaps tied with Azkaban).
Edit: Oh yeah, I found the humor to be much better in this movie than the others, even though it was still dark. Umbrige was just a great character, and if anything a little too funny for such a villian.
Jim Jones
07-19-2007, 07:46 PM
i thought this movie was ok but some parts seemed phoned in
like when harry silently screams
some of the effects were cheesy
AND THAT FUCKING DIGITAL CINEMA
it looked like i was looking at a ctr too close. awful.
its a good thing i havent read the book in a while cause i would have been pointing out things the movie left out but since its been 4 years it seems as i remember the book
coltonwiggum
07-19-2007, 10:36 PM
The entire ministry scene at the end had me clutched to my seat from the start to finish.
I must say I know what you mean. I was literally on the edge of my seat, even though I knew what was going to happen! Now that's movie-making.
DVD details:
Disc 1: Movie
* Optional Alternate Opening Sequence - the original snowy opening sequence
* Extended Finale - extended battle at the ministry of magic
* 20-Minute 3D Finale - the explosive finale in 3D format on DVD (and will include a pair of 3D glasses)
* Audio Commentary by the Director, the Producers and the Cast
Disc 2: Bonus Features
* 30 Minutes of Deleted Scenes
* Conversations with the Cast
* Reflections on the Fifth Film
* Creating the Fifth Film - a featurette about the making of the film
* Dolores Umbridge: Creating the Character - a featurette about creating the look of Professor Umbridge
* Meet Dumbledore’s Army and the Order of the Phoenix - a featurette about the members of the DA and the Order
* Voldemort and the Death Eaters - a featurette about creating the new look of Voldemort and the Death Eaters
* Creating the Creatures - a featurette about the creation of the Dementors, Kreacher, Thestrals and Grawp
* The Battle at the Ministry - a featurette about creating explosive battle at the ministy
* Self-Guided Tour of Number Twelve Grimauld Place and Umbridge’s Office
* Dumbledore’s Army Challenge
* Theatrical Trailers from All 5 Films
* Sneak Preview of the 6th Film: Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince
* PC CD-Rom Features
- Hogwarts Timeline
- EA Game Demo
The release date of the DVD is November 12, 2007.
kupomog
08-28-2007, 05:59 AM
Wow, audio commentary? I love those so I am reeeally excited for that.
30 minutes of deleted scenes!!! WOOOO! I had read that the entire cut of the movie was over 3 hours long...I wouldn't mind watching that, haha.
Dying to see the extended fight at the ministry. Read an interview with Helena Bonham Carter about how much they had filmed and how she was sad to see that her scenes were eventually cut.
Thanks jim :D
boogie down mikel
08-28-2007, 06:51 AM
cast commentary? bitchin'.
grissom
08-28-2007, 07:44 AM
Sounds like some really nice special features. Can't wait to see the extended ministry fight. I thought that scene had way too much cut from it.
kupomog
12-03-2007, 01:01 PM
Ugh I fucking love Tena.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=_3w5TwQOzNE
ABC Family "Potter Weekend" DVD special previews.
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