X-Men 3 - May 26th

[Jolly Bengali]

What have you done to my series? (http://www.usatoday.com/life/gallery/2005/x3/flash.htm)

Truly horrific picture of Beast, I really hope it's just a bad picture. Can someone tell me why this film will rule so I don't turn on it, please.

[Gatorgod]

Kelsey Grammer??

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y269/gatorgod/SantaGatorgod.jpg

[grissom]

I was wondering that too, he seems like the last person you'd expect to be in an X-Men movie. Not knowing much about X-Men, I can't comment much on that pic based on the character's original design, but I still don't think it looks that great

[mr. broom]

Why is the look of a character's makeup the director's fault?

[DAntae]

you realize it will look much--much better on film.

my preference was for oliver platt to play beast. not sure if it ever was a possibility, guy just seems like the perfect person to cast.

[Moose of Doom!]

Well the teaser's up at Apple.

Bad music, spinning Storm, and from the couple of shots we get of him, Beast ain't looking any better. (http://www.apple.com/trailers/fox/x3/)

[Jolly Bengali]

Just to clarify - I have absolutely no issues with Kelsey Grammar as a personality or an actor. His casting has been well-known for months, as well. This is more in reaction to the completely terrible job they did with him.

Mr. Broom - Directors, especially for a superhero or sci-fi flick, spend a tremendous amount of their time supervising aspects like makeup, costuming, and character look. If they don't, they're incompetent... how is it all supposed to flow together? This goes for everyone from Singer to Raimi to Jackson to Lucas. I have no reason to believe he wasn't involved in both approving and finetuning Beast's look, and certainly he could have, as the director, rejected pretty much any Beast design they came up with.

It's a tough job, certainly, to nail Beast - but this can't be the best they can do. Combined with general nervousness about the script version I saw, which all promotional material is seeming to confirm so far, I'm worried.



As for the trailer - Lots of interesting stuff in there, and yeah, the script version was definitely right on. So that means we're in for some cool shit and some arguable plot choices. And Beast looks just atrocious. Angel - fairly good. Magneto seems to be given justice here, as usual - he's about the best part of the series so far, so that I'm good with.

[Gatorgod]

Now that I think of it,.. Beast is a Educated Mutant. and the Scholarly voice stlyings Grammer brings to Sideshow Bob should work good for this character. ..But I think this will be his first action movie roll. ...Cant recall seeing him leap & dash about before? Hope it works out in the end :uhh:


http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y269/gatorgod/SantaGatorgod.jpg

[Jolly Bengali]

Well he's supposed be extremely agile and quick, that's sort of the good part of his mutation

[Orange-Neck]

This movie looks crappy from what I've seen in the trailer

[kupomog]

Meh, I like the way Beast looks. I just wish I could get the damn trailers to work.

[StrideR]

Why are you people bitching about beast again?

http://joblo.com/newsimages1/newpicx3tr-6.jpg

[Kuje]

His design didn't stay true to the conceptual vision of J. Bengalli.

[DotheBartman]

http://insomniacmania.com/news/news_3022_1.jpg

"What? What are you all staring at, what? Oh, I get it, I get it...it's my big ears, isn't it? Well children, I can't help that!"

[blueguy]

I think it looks alright too. Once the, "WTF? Kelsey Grammar?" thought wears off, I think he'll be able to pull off the role very well. For the action, stunt doubles and CG. I mean, you can't even really tell that's Grammar in that pic.

[Curtis]

I think he looks great especially in the suit, this coming from a person who grew up reading X-Men, Uncanny X-Men, X-Force, X-Factor, Cable and other Marvel books and I own every X-men cartoon from the 90's on DVD. :)
Why dont you guys like it?

[EspanolBot]

http://insomniacmania.com/news/news_3022_1.jpg


"Ah kettle chips, the perfect side-dish... for revenge!"

[DAntae]

yeah the trailer looked fine. issues with the design are meh.

I would be more concerned with the storyline for this film.

[Jimmy]

Im pretty excitied to see this still, will be nice to see a new style brought to the film with a new director. I think most trilogy's should have at leaset a couple of directors so they can bring their own influences to the table and provide a differen't look to the film.

But yeah, Best looks ok I guess. Be interesting to see on the big screen wether that face looks natural. His promo in the first post looks...well, aweful.

[That Jerk]

http://frasierbeast.ytmnd.com

[Jolly Bengali]

His design didn't stay true to the conceptual vision of J. Bengalli.

Glasses... something? Anything? I'm just saying he looks cheesy and there were easy measures to alleviate some of the obvious issues with transplanting a difficult character design to the screen that were not taken. Just look at Nightcrawler, for instance - that was a perfect transition. The character looked fantastic. Beast just looks off, and the one long-shot of him in combat seemed to highlight some weirdness with the fur coloring, too.

But I'll stop repeating myself.

One final point - Juggernaut is inarguably awful in his transition, as opposed to Beast being more of a matter of opinion. Check for him next to Magneto in a few shots, he's barely recognizable from the comics. The guy's supposed to be huge.

[mr. broom]

This movie looks crappy from what I've seen in the trailer
This movie looked crappy from what I've read in the scripts leaked. Since what I'm seeing here seems to follow that script, I'm pretty committed to my unnecessary pre-viewing disgust.

[derelictpi]

I think the pictures of Beast look great (this isn't to say that when he moves around he may look bad, but from the trailer and the pictures I think he looks great). If I was you, and it was mentioned briefly before, I'd be complaining about Juggernaut's appearance. Not only is he not as big as he is supposed to be, but his suit, from what I can tell, looks awful.

As for the script leak, didn't they do rewrites?

I'm still giving this movie an openmind when I see it.

[Jimmy]

UPDATE: character promos

http://www.joblo.com/index.php?id=9548

[DotheBartman]

http://www.penny-arcade.com/images/2005/20051207h.jpg

Couldn't resist.

[Dr Zaius]

Wow, Kelsey Grammer. Seriously, never saw that coming.

[Jolly Bengali]

I think the pictures of Beast look great (this isn't to say that when he moves around he may look bad, but from the trailer and the pictures I think he looks great). If I was you, and it was mentioned briefly before, I'd be complaining about Juggernaut's appearance. Not only is he not as big as he is supposed to be, but his suit, from what I can tell, looks awful.

As for the script leak, didn't they do rewrites?

I'm still giving this movie an openmind when I see it.

The rewrites apparently didnt take away most of the larger arc of the plot, which was all that was revealed in the leak anyway. The same people apparently still do the same things in the same way. Nothing in the trailer contradicts the script leak.

[The General]

http://www.penny-arcade.com/images/2005/20051207h.jpg


Wow... hilarious...

[henry]

UPDATE: character promos

http://www.joblo.com/index.php?id=9548


Colossus looks awful.

[boogie down mikel]

colossus is too shiny but i actually really like the beast look

kitty pride looks kinda hot as well

[Curtis]

I want to see Apocalypse and Cable, the stories involving them are always the best.

[henry]

I want to see Apocalypse and Cable, the stories involving them are always the best.

Filming that would be nightmarish.

[mr. broom]

Apocalypse has nothing to offer a movie audience. There's no angle, just "he wants to rule the world." Can you even do that kind of villain successfully in a non-Bond film anymore? Cable's a likewise ridiculous idea, as he would require something in the area of twelve movies to get his story sorted, and they would clearly exist solely for that purpose, i.e. suck. They're wisely sticking to characters who are simple to introduce. They are unwisely sticking to a script that's just mining the last two years of Ultimate and Astonishing X-Men with added unnecessary plot twists and character ruination. It's bad enough that
Cyclops got almost zero development in X2. Audiences don't think of him as being a leader. Now they kill him off and put Storm in charge, though Halle Berry has done the least acting of anyone. They could've redeemed Cyclops as a film character and done anything more with the Phoenix angle that what we're going to get. Two years of waiting for the payoff on that teaser image at the end of X2 and shit to show for it.

[Eddie]

I've been skeptical about this movie for a while now, but after watching that teaser trailer a zillion times, I think I can safely say that this movie will be the greatest nerdgasm possible, but it will probably fail when looked at simply as a film.

There are about ten too many characters for this movie and a story that looks like its being pulled in about twenty different directions. I predict it will be way too overstuffed...they're overly complicating things. BUT...just seeing all of these characters on screen will surely make my head explode with excitement, and I will have way too much fun when I finally get to see this movie in theaters.

[EspanolBot]

Ah Mystique, one of the few women who look good with magenta hair and scales.

[Jolly Bengali]

The people bitching about Colossus - you realize he was in the last flick, right? And he looked fine and provided one of the best moments in the whole film.

And Mr. Broom, agreed. Plus the
very possible Wolverine-Storm hook-up, which is from Ultimate and really doesn't build on anything thematically or feel like the coming to a conclusion for anything. It's just an out of nowhere waste of time for the last film. And the BIG DEATH that I'm sure you know about seems like it's going to make it into the final film, too, which scares me.

[Curtis]

Don't Expect Cyclops to be completly killed off, im sure they will bring him back eventually, he is to big a character to not have in anymore movies.

[Jolly Bengali]

But there isn't going to be more than the 3rd one with the same cast, absolutely no guarantee of that. Would probably be rebooted instead. There will be spinoff films, sure, but a true X4 continuing directly from this trilogy's continuity is doubtful.

[EspanolBot]

Anyone heard about how they are having both a Wolverine and a Magneto spin-off? The Magneto one appears to have the Holocaust in for a large amount of the film.

[Jolly Bengali]

That's what I was referring to, yeah. Magneto will be young Magneto, Wolverine will star Jackman. Talk of a possible Gambit solo film as well.

[EspanolBot]

I hadn't heard about the Gambit film.

[Moose of Doom!]

Ah Mystique, one of the few women who look good with magenta hair and scales.

Except for the fact...
That she's going to get de-mutified and killed by the first half of the movie

And there's a MAJOR difference between Colossus' appearence in the last film (which was only a minute long) and how he looks now.

[EspanolBot]

Except for the fact...
That she's going to get de-mutified and killed by the first half of the movie

NNNNOOOOO!!!! :o|

[Jolly Bengali]

No indication that she's killed. She's probably demutified if the serum plotliine is still in there.

And people, seriously, don't read the spoilers if you haven't already. It's no fun to know.

[Hawkeyed Tom]

Mystique disgusts me for some reason.

[EspanolBot]

Ha! "It's people like you who make people afraid to go to school as a child!"

[kupomog]

Not sure if you guys have seen this yet.

http://www.aintitcool.com/display.cgi?id=22244

A review thingy with some pics and spoilers, of course... Doesn't look like it's going...well, any better than it was when they leaked that script.

[Jolly Bengali]

Read it all... this was basically what I expected. Glad to hear Magneto is awesome and the fights are cool though, maybe that can redeem it. But this may basically be Attack of the Clones - really cool fights, ruined by four or five "emotional" scenes and problems with basic plot logic.

[brockman1988]

It actually looks decent. I don't blame Bryan Singer for leaving or Matthew Vaughn for quitting. Beast and Archangel are two of my favorite characters. I'm excited about this sequel.

[M0leman]

Yeah kitty pride does look hot....
I'm still surprized Kelsey Grammer, like most people it was a name in this type of movie that no one saw coming... and to be my all time favourite X-Men is just... weird but cool. Vinnie Jones is in X-Men 3 also...

[mr. broom]

Not sure if you guys have seen this yet.

http://www.aintitcool.com/display.cgi?id=22244

A review thingy with some pics and spoilers, of course... Doesn't look like it's going...well, any better than it was when they leaked that script.
The review's garbage. If you read it all the way through, it becomes obvious that the person who wrote it hasn't seen anything but what's been leaked/trailer'd on the Internet and was just pretending to have seen all the rest. Not that I don't think this movie won't suck, because it will, and hard, but for once I agree with the clusterfuck that is Ain't It Cool Talkbacks--it's a bullshit review.

[kupomog]

They removed it, anyway. Pics of Phoenix still there, though.

[Rowdy]

I still don't get why people care about this crap. Go Spider-Man!

[grissom]

Having actually seen the other two movies over the past couple weeks, I'm really looking forward to this now

[Curtis]

I remember in 1994 reading how an X-Men movie was being made im sure glad they didnt make it then when special effects wernt as good. What I dont really care for is how Magento is in every movie, I mean I would like to see some diversity in villans and I really wanted to see some sentinels. Ill pry start watching my DVD's of the classic 90s X-Men Animated Series before this comes out to bring me down memory lane cause from 1992-1998 I was hooked on the X-Men and Marvel and up until early last year I picked up the comics all the time.

[Mike Scully]

I loved X2, but this movie looks bad. I really wish Fox would have waited for Singer to finish Superman and return to X-men instead of pushing for a 2006 release.

[derelictpi]

It's official. That X-3 screening review is fake.

http://www.comics2film.com/

I'm still excited as hell to see the movie.

[EspanolBot]

The trailer was shown on Film 2006 last night, it looked good. Especially the Golden gate Bridge being knocked down and Storm's new hair cut.

[brockman1988]

I remember in 1994 reading how an X-Men movie was being made im sure glad they didnt make it then when special effects wernt as good. What I dont really care for is how Magento is in every movie, I mean I would like to see some diversity in villans and I really wanted to see some sentinels. Ill pry start watching my DVD's of the classic 90s X-Men Animated Series before this comes out to bring me down memory lane cause from 1992-1998 I was hooked on the X-Men and Marvel and up until early last year I picked up the comics all the time.

Same here. I'd love for them to add Gambit and Apocalypse, if they didn't do it too over the top. I'm having trouble remembering more villains though. Except the kid of the girl Xavier was in love with who became pure energy, which I think wouldn't tranlsate to film very well.

[Moose of Doom!]

New trailer's up (http://www.apple.com/trailers/fox/tls/trailer/)

Here's some of the things accidentally revealed during the preview:
Cyclops? Dead!
Prof. X? Dead!
Mystique? De-mutified!
Iceman? Cheats with Kitty Pryde #3!
Phoenix? Joins the Brotherhood of Mutants!

[Wonderboy]

The new trailer gives me hope, it looks excellent, but then again we'll have to wait for the final product to truely know. At the worst I think it will be only average.

[Jolly Bengali]

Moose... by preview, do you mean trailer? Didn't realize that much had been revealed in the trailer, but that + the basic plot of the film was basically all that was spoiled back when AICN had the whole (genuine) script review leak.. minus a few points here or there

[derelictpi]

I saw a bunch of frames from the new trailer, but I can't get it to play on my computer...even after I downloaed new Quicktime. I just has a "?" where the video should be.

Anyone know of a Windows Media Player version?

Oh, the frames I saw were cool. I still have hope for this one.

[Moose of Doom!]

Moose... by preview, do you mean trailer? Didn't realize that much had been revealed in the trailer, but that + the basic plot of the film was basically all that was spoiled back when AICN had the whole (genuine) script review leak.. minus a few points here or there

It's not so much the fact that it was already spoiled, it's the fact that the movie's "BIG SECRET SHOCKING PLOT TWISTS" are given away by the trailer and not very subtly either.

[Jolly Bengali]

Interesting... on rewatch, yeah, I get most of that... interesting. My pessimistic take on this would be that they threw every cool shot they had available into the trailer, regardless of spoiler-age, to make the film look as good as possible... my optimistic take is that they managed to execute the rather weak plot outline of the film as excellently as one might hope.

[mr. broom]

It's your standard manipulative Hollywood trailer. It makes the film look really fun and exciting, with tons of action and drama. Also, it gives away at least half the movie. Based solely on this, I'd have been very excited about the film. I'm still dreading it, based on everything else.

[StrideR]

That... unless Ratner is smarter than we think he is and is counting on us believing that is all there is, only to shock us when we get to the theater in 3 months...

Too much to hope for?

[Jolly Bengali]

Well given that Ratner had about zip to do with the overall plot of the film (it was handed to him, he came into the project about two weeks before the film started...) no idea. I do know that the third act of the film is still basically a mystery, since no major plot points were present in the trailer that weren't in the AICN script review, which cut off after the first 2/3 and said it would not spoil the final third of the film. I'm sure we saw shots from that part of the film, but nothing distinctive enough to nail down plot points.

I still think the greatest thing ever would be if Nightcrawler shows up and saves the day in the 3rd act... that'd be an amazingly well-kept secret, given that he's been publicly stated not to be in the film, but ah well, it's nice to dream.

[grissom]

Saw the trailer during 24 the other night, looks pretty interesting

[Greased Scotsman]

Just watched the trailer, and...holy hell, this looks AMAZING. It looks better than X-Men 1 and 2 combined.

So whose funeral do you think they're at? I'm betting on Jean/Phoenix, but it could just as easily be the Professor (I'm thinking along the lines of Half-Blood Prince). Rogue and Bobby are both there, at least.

And as for Beast...well, I never read the comics or saw the TV show, so I can't comment. But I think he looks great. I'm just glad to see Kelsey Grammer, so be honest.

[TheForbiddenDonut]

I think the movie will turn out good, but I don't know much about it. Having read several X-men comics and knowing all about them, I am very much looking forward to this movie.

[sikkbones]

prediction: wolverine lops off Jeans head to stop her from killing the universe with the phoniex power or something... and Jean begs him to do it...

[Drew]

Just watched the full 2 min (i think) trailer for the movie. This one seems like its going to be the best, and make this one awesome trilogy.

[Wonderboy]

I guess this on topic, the X-Men movie game looks pretty awesome. It takes place between X2 and TLS, and it has Setinels in it. So if there are any Setinels in X3 then I'd imagine they'd look like what they do in the game.

http://comicsmedia.ign.com/comics/image/article/700/700670/x-men-20060407001718546-000.jpg

http://comicsmedia.ign.com/comics/image/article/700/700670/x-men-20060407001719296-000.jpg

http://comicsmedia.ign.com/comics/image/article/700/700670/x-men-20060407001855107.jpg

Here's a link to the article. (http://media.comics.ign.com/media/735/735371/img_3511615.html) It looks like it'll make a pretty good game.

[mr. broom]

Now, I'm not saying this saves the movie (particularly given how crappy Colossus still looks), but I have two words and a large video file for you geeks.

Fastball Special (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=VQY1DH9Z).

[cired]

Hugh Jackman was on Leno last night, and he showed a clip from X3. In it Colossus threw Wolverine into the air into an unseen thing coming at them. You hear a bunch a slicing noises and Wolvie grunting. Then you see a giant Sentinel head fall to the ground and Wolverine walking from behind it looking like a badass.
I think this new one looks pretty cool. Seems like they're gonna have lots and lots of characters though, and that's gonna be hard to give them all adequate screen time, and show off all their powers. But we will see how Mr. Ratner does.

[Jolly Bengali]

Well that confirms Sentinels... that's a pretty big deal. Cool, very cool. Great to see the Fastball Special show up, too, even though we already knew about it.

Similarly confused at how Colossus looks worse than in X2, really annoying.

[Wonderboy]

Similarly confused at how Colossus looks worse than in X2, really annoying.
Yeah, I don't get that at all. Hopefully it's something that will be touched up in post, but I dunno if they have the time for it.

[Curtis]

Hugh Jackman was on Leno last night, and he showed a clip from X3. In it Colossus threw Wolverine into the air into an unseen thing coming at them. You hear a bunch a slicing noises and Wolvie grunting. Then you see a giant Sentinel head fall to the ground and Wolverine walking from behind it looking like a badass.
I think this new one looks pretty cool. Seems like they're gonna have lots and lots of characters though, and that's gonna be hard to give them all adequate screen time, and show off all their powers. But we will see how Mr. Ratner does.

It could be a scene from maybe them practicing in the Danger Room, so they might not actually be in the movie.

[Moose of Doom!]

I really hope the effects aren't finished in that. Also, why does Jackman's accent keep changing in the clip?

[grissom]

Cool clip, this should be a great movie

[mr. broom]

I really hope the effects aren't finished in that. Also, why does Jackman's accent keep changing in the clip?
Like many non-Americans, Jackman can do a passable American accent but gets the tiniest bit hung up on his Rs. It's one of the most difficult parts of American English for outsiders to imitate because so very few people in any language group have anything quite like it.

As for Curtis's comment: Sentinels are appropriate to the story. Danger Room's not--at least, not in its full-on we-can-simulate-anything form. It's too distracting: "Where did they get a massive futuristic holographic simulator so suddenly?" No explanation, no matter how good, is worth the headache of having to explain it at all.

[Jolly Bengali]

Having finally watched the clip (Opera + megaupload weren't cooperating), have to echo that it seems a bit weak effects-wise, but moreso that it feels extremely dead. "Panties in a bunch", etc... it just doesn't feel like X-Men. Something's missing.

By the way, these aren't Danger Room scenes, to my knowledge. And I'm all for seeing the Danger Room, not too big a continuity/explanation problem.

[Wonderboy]

Edit: Here's an excerpt of an article from Premiere magazine with the X-Men cast on the cover. It clears up the debate between the Danger Room and Sentinel.

"In brainstorming concepts for the X-Men's training facility, the filmmakers had a lot of leeway. "The Room is a holographic world, so it can be anything," says Ratner. They chose to make it like the postapocalpytic landscape of 1980s "Days of Future Past," in which an alternate future of Wolverine gets fired by a mutant-hunting Sentinel."

[Jolly Bengali]

Interesting find, Wonderboy, thanks.

[Gay4Moleman]

The first two were excellent, and I remain open-minded that the third part will not disappoint. I also look forward to the Wolverine spinoff, he's such a bad motherfucker!

[Wonderboy]

I just saw a new TV spot dedicated to Iceman and Pyro.

You can see that they'll be feuding throughout the movie and they do have a battle. From what I gathered Iceman appears to win, and yes, he is fully iced, but it looks just as bad as Colossus sadly.

[Curtis]

Edit: Here's an excerpt of an article from Premiere magazine with the X-Men cast on the cover. It clears up the debate between the Danger Room and Sentinel.

"In brainstorming concepts for the X-Men's training facility, the filmmakers had a lot of leeway. "The Room is a holographic world, so it can be anything," says Ratner. They chose to make it like the postapocalpytic landscape of 1980s "Days of Future Past," in which an alternate future of Wolverine gets fired by a mutant-hunting Sentinel."

So it appears I was correct, which sucks because I would like to see the giant robots. If they did a movie around the Days of the Future Past storyline I believe I would shit myself. By far one of my favorite storylines, very close to the X-Cutioners Song (as a Cable fan that story is just amazing, any X-Men fans should check it out.)

[Lyle Lanley]

So it appears I was correct, which sucks because I would like to see the giant robots. If they did a movie around the Days of the Future Past storyline I believe I would shit myself. By far one of my favorite storylines, very close to the X-Cutioners Song (as a Cable fan that story is just amazing, any X-Men fans should check it out.)
I totally agree. That was such a bad ass story arc in both the comics and the animated series, one of the best ever.

[Jolly Bengali]

They haven't established nearly enough of the series to be comfortable with DoFP, beyond a minor Pheonix premonition or something... and we've already discussed how much of a clusterfuck Cable would be in a movie, too. But good, if oft-stated point about both series, both are solid reads.

[unnecessarily hot]

A picture of the Danger Room (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v127/iamdownwithp/xmen3newa.jpg).

A couple of more photos can be found here (http://www.superherohype.com/news/x-mennews.php?id=4186).

[Drew]

Movie comes out in a couple weeks, and we now have a 7 minute clip to hold us over until it comes out the 26th.

http://www.spikedhumor.com/articles/28073/X_Men_3_The_Last_Stand_.html

awesome.

[skittlebrau]

Merged, since there was already a thread on it.

[mikeymansimpsons]

Looks really cool, I can't wait

[jim]

From what I remember of Beast from the comics, Kelsey Grammar seems like an ideal choice. That picture isnt that bad.

[Moose of Doom!]

This (http://youtube.com/watch?v=YOiNW0NUkDI&search=juggernaut) is a redubbed clip from the old X-Men cartoon that appeared two months ago on YouTube. This (http://youtube.com/watch?v=hK33lODnbiE&search=x3%20juggernaut) is a clip from X3 that appeared on TV 3 days ago.

I'm scared.

[Jolly Bengali]

I love that cartoon to death, amazing especially if you actually know who all those villains and people are. Gladius' appearance is godly.

And yeah... cheeeese and a half.

[Curtis]

Cartoon is amazing, I have bootleg dvds of every ep!

[El Sid]

BUMP!

just got back from the midnight showing. honestly...i was disappointed. the dialogue was awful, main characters die out of nowhere, and the casting was downright abhorent for a few roles.

on the positive note...Juggernaut and Beast both rocked, and there was a DBZ style fight between Iceman and Pyro...but those were the only good parts of the movie.

6/10

ps...stay till after the credits.

[Dead Nigga Storage]

DON'T YOU KNOW WHO I AM? I'M THE JUGGERNAUT, BITCH!

ten billion thumbs up, for putting that line in the movie, alone.

otherwise, 7.5/10.

edit: and sid can't emphasize it enough...STAY AFTER CREDITS. ALL OF YOU.

[Lizard Queen]

I'm going to go check it out tonight. El Sid's comments have me worried, but I'm still excited. I feel like I've been waiting for this movie forever!

[Curtis]

I saw this last night as well and these are my thoughts...

I came into this movie already with a biased opinion meaning even if the movie was shit I would say its good because im such a huge fan of X-Men but I have to say this movie was a HUGE dissapointment. I will give it credit the action scenes were wonderfull. Truely great stuff there but where this movie fails is the plot and the shitty dialoge although there were a few good jokes like the "Juggernaut Bitch" line which was shocking because I thought that whole thing was recent. Anyway the plot to me seemed a bit all over the place and I found this movie to be an extremely poor end to the X-Men line of movies as was being touted. I HATE that they killed Cyclops like that, and I just hate that they killed him period because believe it or not people Cyclops and Jean Grey are more important to the X-Men universe then even Wolverine. One of the friends with me was seriousley pissed off about Cyclops the entire movie and after. I mean he is a beloved character and to kill him like that and you never actually see him die was bullshit. Also Angel had such a small role. What is the point in adding him just so he could save his dad? And how did he get from New York to San Francisco so fast, I doubt he could even fly straight there and it would take him alot longer then the Blackbird. Rogue's character was also vastly underused. Ok so we see her at the clinic and then she doesnt come back to the end and is like oh no more powers. I didnt like that. I thought Kitty Prydes character was excellent they did a good job with her but Colossus had like one line what was up with that. I didn't care about Professor X dying or even Jean (because she had died in the comic so many times) but Cyclops's death kills any chance for another movie, at least one that could live up to the first two. I was hoping that Apocalypse or Mr. Sinister were behind this so called cure and there was a catch to it at the end. But nope, instead we see Magneto slightly move a chess piece and Professor X take the body of that guy. Also I didn't like them putting in fictional mutants in this movie. For example Spike, who was only a character for X-Men evolution and was based off the original character Marrow who was a female. Also I would expect a cameo of Gambit in some form out of all three movies, at least for the fans. Beast was awesome his character was great but I expected a bit more from this movie.

[billi vanilli]

it's funny seeing curtis say 'these are my thoughts,' immediately followed by a big blank box

looking forward to this, can't wait to hear the 'i'm juggernaut' line.

[grissom]

Will be seeing it this weekend, looking forward to it despite the negative reviews

[El Sid]

dont get me wrong...im not saying i didnt like it. the movie just seemed really "thrown together". i just kept getting the "ok, lets end this trilogy already" vibe from a lot of scenes.

hey im as big a fan of the "lots of action and cheesy lines" genre as anybody, but a few of the lines even had ME cringing. some were just SO LAAAAAAME.

[boogie down mikel]

without spoilers, i thought the movie was very good, a lot better than i expected with all the shit they tried to cram into it

beast and shadowcat were superb casting choices...and as my title indicates i also enjoyed the human wrecking machine

a few twists and turns i didn't expect but i think overall a nice way to close out the series if they decide to do that.....also ghost rider trailer in front looks awesome

[Dead Nigga Storage]

ghost rider trailer looked like shit, and judging by its february 16th release date, the studio thinks it does, too.

[StrideR]

Saw it at 12:01 this morning. There was little that was mind-blowingly awesome about this movie, unlike X2, although I liked the fact that a lot of mutants got well-deserved face time in this movie. I liked the friendly, even if adverserial, relationship between Charles and Erik and that look of concern on Magneto's face for Xavier was something we hadn't seen in the previous movies.

Competent performances by the rest of the younger class- the danger room sequence was pretty good: (somewhat implied) sentinel simulation, "fastball special", etc.

One sore spot for me was the presentation of Phoenix. I dug Jean's transformation at the end of X2 and expected that fiery appearance in this movie. Ratner's decision to give her the "evil-Willow" treatement had the desired effect, but wasn't true to the idea of, y'know, phoenix.

Angel's role is pretty limited in this movie and it seemed he was there to do little more than explain Warren Worthington II's drive to find a mutant "cure".

And yes, Kelsey Grammer's beast was brilliant... possibly the most true to his comic-book roots after Xavier. On the flip side, Cyclops sucked as a character. Complete 180 from the discipline and maturity his persona is classically attributed with.

All in all, 8/10.

And yeah, I missed post-credits scene. Could someone be so kind as to PM me with the details?

[blueguy]

I keep forgetting to mention, but it was kinda creepy/cool seeing the younger looking Charles and Eric. It kinda felt like watching a season 1 episode of TNG.

[homer5000]

11:59 showing last night...X2 was so much better...

I think we should be concerened about how much fandom DOES have effect on movies today, first Snakes on a Plane adds in a wanted line, now X3?! Whatever, it was the single greatest moment in a movie theatre ever...

[Jolly Bengali]

12:01; saw it with best crowd ever, topping even the Sith crowd - Fans who wanted the movie to be good who cheered and yelped with happiness at all the fanboy moments - Sentinels, Fastball, Iceman iced up, etc., and who yelled out "I'm the Juggernaut bitch" twice (one guy yelling at the character intro, entire row yelling it in the pause of the line). Wonderful crowd, so really heightened the fanboy enjoyment for immensely.

I'd say 3 starts or low A-. I enjoyed it quite a bit, although lingering character plot/arc/conception/debut problems will probably knock it down upon reflection. But was a very, very enjoyable film that did a lot of things right, and mostly wrapped up the plots from the first two movies in an enjoyable way.

[Curtis]

12:01; saw it with best crowd ever, topping even the Sith crowd - Fans who wanted the movie to be good who cheered and yelped with happiness at all the fanboy moments - Sentinels, Fastball, Iceman iced up, etc., and who yelled out "I'm the Juggernaut bitch" twice (one guy yelling at the character intro, entire row yelling it in the pause of the line). Wonderful crowd, so really heightened the fanboy enjoyment for immensely.

Exactly the same here, crowd was great made the movie better then it was.

[boogie down mikel]

ironically loudest crowd pop was for the snakes teaser

btw superman trailer kinda looks like shit

[Dead Nigga Storage]

you didn't like the superman trailer and you liked the ghost rider trailer? man, you're all backwards.

[boogie down mikel]

i liked luthor in the superman trailer but that was pretty much it, i thought nick cage looked pretty badass...and polus ghost rider is at least something new

[Ihaveblink]

B+

Really liked it. Didn't expect much, but I was pleasantly surprised. Not as good as X2, but perhaps chose to the first. Beast, Juggarnaut, Kitty Pride, Angel, all looked great and good casting choices. Pyro's character really stood out. How fast did the woman who played Jean age? I mean, it looked like ten years had passed from X2 to X3. Overall, the Jean story and portrayal was the only thing that I didn't like. I didn't sit through the credits, could somebody IM me and tell me what happend?

So will there be any hopes for a sequel? Only do it if they bring back Singer and the cast.

[brockman1988]

So-so. Read review in "Last Movie/DVD You Watched." I will say this: Ellen Page is gonna be huge in the coming years.

[sikkbones]

can someone whose seen these spoiler the ending and the part after the creidts for me in a pm please.

[Zoidbart]

Looks good. I want to see this.

[grissom]

Went to see it tonight, overall I really liked it. There was the occasional cringe-worth line of dialogue, but other than that there wasn't much to complain about. The special effects and action sequences were incredible

[Moose of Doom!]

Just saw it earlier. It was OK. Looking back, a lot of characters felt wasted (a LOT of characters).

Also, the constant changing of the message about the cure was kinda stupid and just sloppy.

[Ihaveblink]

Ok, I looked up the extra ending scene on wikipedia.

[DotheBartman]

I've got kind of a weird question and I hope you guys can bare with me....

I've only seen the first X-Men movie and don't really remember that much about it (I never followed superheroes when I was young and never got into them basically), but the plotline of this one has kind of piqued my interest, since it seems to fall very conveniently in line with a topic I did a lot of research on earlier (in a nutshell, the morality of curing things like autism). Does the movie have sort of a philosophical bent to it, or some sort of message to it, in that sense? That is, is it just action and explosions and superhero geekdom, or is there a deeper element anywhere in this? Despite the reactions I'm seeing it sounds rather interesting from that angle and I'm wondering if I might want to check it out sometime for that.

[grissom]

I looked up the ending too. I was going to stay until after the credits and watch it, but I was with somebody who didn't feel like staying

[El Sid]

CAUTION: Maybe some spoilers.


well...i cant say ive ever heard of anybody who liked being autistic. cept maybe that kid who scored a million points in that high school basketball game...so i dont know how much water that particular comparison holds.

in terms of the moral message, the first two definitely had clearer and much stronger messages than X3, about stuff like tolerance and acceptance.

this one tried to do the same thing in the voice of Storm..."Theres nothing to cure, theres nothing wrong with us! any of us!" but every time she went on that rant...i just wanted to slap Halle Berry and say "Of course you think that, bitch! you have COOL powers! some other peoples powers are harmful and humiliating (ie. Rogue)." so i was unable to really grasp the message that X3 was trying to give.

in terms of a "cure". i cant really think of any real-life social outcropping that would parallel. like i said...i have yet to meet an autistic person who wouldnt have their life any other way (and ive worked with quite a few of them before). there is only thing that i can think of that is even close to being similar to the plight of the mutants...and it took me a while to think of it: Homosexuality. and even then, you can already see some of the problems making that comparison...but its really the only social issue in todays world that even closely resembles the problems the mutants have.

so...is X3 a GAY movie?! well...actually...maybe. Ian McKellan, for instance, is gay and in many interviews says he drew inspiration for X3 from his own personal experiences as a homosexual, being shunned like the mutants. The "march" of the mutants across the biggest symbol of the most notoriously gay city (Golden Gate Bridge in San Francisco). the clearly transgendered crony of Magneto. almost everybody who dies goes up in "flames"...haha, ok maybe not that one...but probably the big question of the movie "would you choose to be "normal" if you could?" is a question often faced by the gay community. So there's actually a lot of stuff in this movie that points toward issues of gay rights and social acceptance.

Overall though, it seemed like the producers goal for X3 as a film was to cram as many of the fan-favorite characters (ie. Juggernaut, Phoenix) into the trilogy as possible so the fans would at least feel nostalgic about it. but they couldnt even get THAT right cuz they didnt even put in easily the coolest X-Man of all time...

...you know who im talkin bout.

MOTHER FUCKIN GAMBIT!!!!!!!

[Curtis]

Did anyone else here hope for a tie in with Apocalypse, that he was the one behind the "cure" and there was a twist coming at the end. I really thought that would happen, and it would have been kick ass.

[Ihaveblink]

It wouldn't had made sense for people not familar with the comics.

[Wonderboy]

Overall, I was pretty dissapointed, but that's not to say it was a terrible movie. Random thoughts on the movie:

-The dialouge had it's good moments ("Does it look like we need your help?") and it's bad (although, in a funny way).

-How did Angel fly from New York to California so quickly? I know he's a bird, but I still find it far fetched.

-I didn't like how they had some of the more popular mutants in there, but gave them nothing to do.

-The Magneto terrorist threat with was funny.

-I don't have a problem with killing off important characters, but it felt forced in a way.

-I felt the pacing/flow of the film suffered from the two main storylines of the Phoenix and "the cure".

-I like how they movie didn't take one particular stance on the whole "cure" conflict. Having Rouge go through with her wishes to be normal was a pleasent suprise.

[DotheBartman]

well...i cant say ive ever heard of anybody who liked being autistic. cept maybe that kid who scored a million points in that high school basketball game...so i dont know how much water that particular comparison holds.



You'd be surprised...one of the first thing I found when doing research on the autistic community is that a lot of them find the very suggestion of a cure to be downright offensive, or even dangerous. (I could PM you with some links if you're curious enough. I don't want to overtake this thread or anything). Granted, it happens more with some specific forms of it (IE Asperger's, as opposed to the traditional Kanner's syndrome), but it seems to be a surprisingly common sentiment, and I've definitely personally met some people who share it. I don't know how much overlap there would be with other communities (such as ADD for instance) though since I didn't really research that.

Thanks for the response though.

[kupomog]

I enjoyed the movie in terms of action and junk. Having not read any of the comics aside from an X-Men/Teen Titans crossover, I don't have much of anything to judge against. I did watch the early episodes of the cartoon in the past but retaining information from it is another story.

Mainly the usage of some characters irritated me...mostly because mutants were underused. Kind of miffed that a bunch of mutants popped up only to be killed.

I thought Angel was gonna play some super huge part in the movie with the way people were talking about him. He sparked 2 important things, the reason for making the cure and I suppose the idea to keep the school open, but didn't do much of anything otherwise. I was kind of expecting him to fight along side the X-Men. Not that big of a deal, I guess.

Cyclops goes too early for me...especially for someone that I've always perceived as both the "leader" and well...ya know...isn't he a huge part of the whole Phoenix thing in the first place..? I started chuckling because the scene where Jean is seducing Wolverine reminded me so much of Famke playing Xenia Onatopp.

There was the Iceman/Rogue/Kitty love triangle...despite the fact that one side of the triangle was practically missing the entire time. I know Rogue had the whole first movie to play a key part, but she did little to nothing in this movie and she was always my favorite character from the cartoon. I've got nothing against Shadowcat/Kitty Pryde (I was getting really annoyed with some people sitting behind me who kept saying shit like "she looks like she's 10!"), she had that cute comeback against da Jugganaut, bitch. But it just seemed like she completely replaced Rogue which annoyed me. Then again, Rogue seems kind of useless without the powers she got from Ms. Marvel and with what happened to her at the end...well at least it doesn't seem to be permanent.

I was kind of surprised with Xavier. Just the way he talked to Wolverine rather venomously at points shocked me since I never really knew an incarnation of Xavier that was ...well...mean. Not that it really bothered me, just something that stuck with me when I saw it.

Action-wise, I've got nothing to really complain about, other than I wished I could've seen more of the other mutants, or seen some of my favorites used more. Beast was too great, loved him. I enjoy how his hair seems to defy gravity http://members.aol.com/kudoshido/lawl.gif Juggernaut said the line but the voice wasn't working for me.

It just wasn't really satisfying story and characterwise. They certainly left it open enough for another movie with the effects of the cure at the end and the scene after the credits. Local radio DJs kept saying to stay after the credits every chance they got, heh. And now I go to talk to my comic-obsessed buddy to see how much he hated it. I already got a message from him complaining about Phoenix :x

I give this movie a 7/10.

[Jolly Bengali]

I think given the circumstances I can accept having a really badass/fun movie over having a perfect continuation thematically and character-wise of the first 2 films... much more preferable to a botched, more ambitious film.

[Mr. Plow]

Spoilers, of course

This is the worst Marvel comic film (sans the early Punisher and Captain America films) ever. Yes, I think FF4 and Hulk were better than this. Terrible use of characters new and old. Storm is seen throughout the film and Cyclopes is in the film for 2 minutes max? Too much stuff going on for a 100 minute film. Angel and Rogue were a big waste. As a fan of the comics and the two previous films, I'm very dissapointed. The film looks to be the last one, but of course, the film leaves it open for another sequel (especially if you stuck around for the end.) I think the writing was terrible with cheesey one-liners that were not funny. The mixing of the cure story with the Phoenix did not bode well with me. I was already pissed characters were getting killed off in the first 15 minutes that I could not really enjoy the film. It was cool to see Beast and have Collossus throw Wolverine like he did in the comics. Still, fuck you Brett Ratner. 1/5

[lisalover1]

IGNORE THIS POST IF YOU HAVE NOT READ MY SECOND FANSCRIPT. It's wierd. I released my "In Full Flight" script just before this movie came out, and... wow. I'm creeped out, and if you read the script, you would know why.

[bluemoose]

I got dragged to it. I'm not exactly sure what it was about, but I still had fun watching it. The action was pretty awesome, but the dialogue was pretty bad, except for I'M THE JUGGERNAUT, BITCH. I'd give it a 7/10.

[mayo]

saw this today on a whim. to be honest, it was just like i thought it would be. magneto's brotherhood against the humans/cure/x-men. kelsey grammer as the beast was simply awesome. but overall... it just wasn't as good as the second movie. LOVED the ending with the chess pieces, and the abruptness of it all.

didn't stick around for after the credits but caught it online and thought it was pretty good. don't think they should make another film though. those spin-offs they're planning should be sufficient.

[El Sid]

what pissed me off the most about this movie was...

the complete wasting of Phoenix's character development. the whole point of her character, in terms of her interactions with Xavier and Wolverine was centered around her controlling her power and not letting it control her. The whole back story about the mental blocks put into her mind, her unleashing her power unable to keep from killing people...its all for naught. in the climax of the movie during the battle, you've been dealing with this struggle for Phoenix to control her power for the whole movie, so you expect that here, finally, she's going to do it and at last control that immense power and once again become Jean Grey! BUT SHE DOESNT!! all the talk of controlling her power turns out to be a waste of dialogue. her character makes no progress in the film...and Xavier's last words "Dont let it control you..." end up being completely meaningless. she has the second most screen time of any character, and the plot would have been absolutely no different if she werent in the movie at all.

[Drew]

Awesome movie. I enjoyed it as much as the first two. While it does suck that Cyclops dies, I got over that. Looks like there is a possibility of a 4th.

Oh, and I did stay and watch past the credits. Highlight below to find out what happened.



A nurse walks into a hospital room to check on a patient. We never see the patients face, but he says the nurses name. The voice sounds like Prof. X, and the nurse looks puzzled and she says "Charles?"

Remember in the beginning of the movie the Professor is talking about taking over someones body who doesnt have the higher brain functions, but his body works perfect?

[Mike Scully]

Did anyone else here hope for a tie in with Apocalypse, that he was the one behind the "cure" and there was a twist coming at the end. I really thought that would happen, and it would have been kick ass.

It would be really fun seeing Apocalypse on film, but I doubt he'll every actually appear in any of the X-Men films. The films seem intent on being semi-realistic and sticking with tolerance/bigotry theme. Having the cure just be Apocalypse's plan to recruit horsemen or something like that would be too far-out. Apocalypse is just a boastful cackling over-the-top supervillain bent on world domination, which is fine for a cartoon, but wouldn't really fly in the films.

[Jolly Bengali]

what pissed me off the most about this movie was...

the complete wasting of Phoenix's character development. the whole point of her character, in terms of her interactions with Xavier and Wolverine was centered around her controlling her power and not letting it control her. The whole back story about the mental blocks put into her mind, her unleashing her power unable to keep from killing people...its all for naught. in the climax of the movie during the battle, you've been dealing with this struggle for Phoenix to control her power for the whole movie, so you expect that here, finally, she's going to do it and at last control that immense power and once again become Jean Grey! BUT SHE DOESNT!! all the talk of controlling her power turns out to be a waste of dialogue. her character makes no progress in the film...and Xavier's last words "Dont let it control you..." end up being completely meaningless. she has the second most screen time of any character, and the plot would have been absolutely no different if she werent in the movie at all.

She says "kill me" at the end, correct? She triumphs for a brief instant, and that's all Wolverine needs to hear to make him sure to do it, and also make it heartbreaking for him. I can't understand anyone criticizing that last scene; it was epic, truly, truly, epic, in a way that I thought only Peter Jackson could pull off. Captured the tone of Grant Morrison's superb New X-Men run perfectly. Now if I was hallucinating her saying that, I'll dial down the vehemence of my reply a few points, but still - she affects the movie quite a bit. Was it the best choice to meld the two? Perhaps not. But they couldn't get Cyclops on the schedule they had, and a true Dark Pheonix storyline probably couldnt have been supported without him, so what we got seemed like a fairly organic melding of the two plots.

It would be really fun seeing Apocalypse on film, but I doubt he'll every actually appear in any of the X-Men films. The films seem intent on being semi-realistic and sticking with tolerance/bigotry theme. Having the cure just be Apocalypse's plan to recruit horsemen or something like that would be too far-out. Apocalypse is just a boastful cackling over-the-top supervillain bent on world domination, which is fine for a cartoon, but wouldn't really fly in the films.

Yeah, although if altered correctly Apocalypse or Mr. Sinister would be the go-to for the next film in the franchise, if FOX sees the box office numbers and decides that they want a new film but that Magneto might be getting a bit old. Curtis' naivete when it comes to both a) information about plot leaking and b) the unblinking acceptance of people when it comes to random appearances from comic characters with little backstory is getting a little annoying, though - you have to accept that Cable/Apocalypse/Rachel Grey/Franklin Richards/the Age of Apocalypse/whatever other clusterfuck you can think of will probably not be coming anytime soon.

[Wonderboy]

Box Office results are in. (http://www.imdb.com/chart/)

All signs point to this being the last X-Men movie, but after looking at those numbers, I'm sure FOX will bring us a fourth.

[grissom]

If they do a fourth movie, I hope they use a villain different from Magneto. There's only so much more they can do with him after 3 movies

[Dead Nigga Storage]

All signs point to this being the last X-Men movieyeah, you must mean "all signs" except for the content of the movie itself, right?

[Wonderboy]

That's debatable. They certainly left it open for another run, but they also closed off a lot of angles too.

[Drew]

not really


Magneto is getting his powers back

Charles Xavier is still alive

on the other hand, they did kill off a lot of bad guys in the last scene.

[Moose of Doom!]

Plus the cure was shown as useless, so the 'cured' characters can get their powers back

[Drew]

Not necessarily, Magneto is a level 4 mutant. Very few mutants are that powerful, so maybe it's just him (and other high level mutants?)

[Dead Nigga Storage]

yes, but magneto also got injected a quantity of the cure 4 times greater than pretty much any other mutant. beast stuck him with 4 syringes, most of the mutants, such and mystique, only got one

[Curtis]

Maybe they can go into a story with how the cure wasn't a cure at all but was somehow connected the Legacy Virus or something, I dont know that would be a cool angle and I care less if Magneto dies he is stale. Also at least we never saw Cyclops die, that leaves them room to bring him back and say Jean like wrapped him in a telekenetic cocoon or used her Phoenix force to somehow bring Scott back to life And if he comes back that leaves it open for maybe the debut of Madelyne Prior (The Jean Grey clone made by Sinister) and could lead to all types of good storylines. With Sinister being the main bad guy in the next movie.

[Wonderboy]

I'd honestly rather just see them continue on with the spin-offs if they want to continue to milk the X-Men name, instead of adding on to the trilogy.

[Moose of Doom!]

Curtis:
I think the fact that the last time we see him his skin is bubbling combined with Jean flipping out every time someone asks her about him kinda makes it obvious he's dead, don't you?

[Jolly Bengali]

Maybe they can go into a story with how the cure wasn't a cure at all but was somehow connected the Legacy Virus or something, I dont know that would be a cool angle and I care less if Magneto dies he is stale. Also at least we never saw Cyclops die, that leaves them room to bring him back and say Jean like wrapped him in a telekenetic cocoon or used her Phoenix force to somehow bring Scott back to life And if he comes back that leaves it open for maybe the debut of Madelyne Prior (The Jean Grey clone made by Sinister) and could lead to all types of good storylines. With Sinister being the main bad guy in the next movie.

Curtis, did you read what I said just a few posts ago about taking a realistic attitude towards what they will actually do with the series? You're not getting a Jean close, that falls into the category of "shit that will not be accepted by mainstream audiences." Hell, that stuff even annoyed comics fans.

[bovine_university]

If you are reading this, it means I've learned how to use spoiler boxes.

Anyway, I just got back from seeing the movie, and I have to say that I'm feeling a bit mixed. There were some great highs and some big lows to this film for me. Considering that they added even more characters to this new film even though it's the third one, I seriously get the feeling that there was too much movie going for this one film. With all of the different characters and the plot's ethical issues going on, it seemed like the writers were backed into a corner and forced to decide who got the big roles and who didn't. I actually might have liked this film more if it had been stretched to maybe 3 hours and given more time to it's characters for them to develop, but instead things felt clunky.

The Danger Room and the Sentinels were a fun surprise at first, but the fact that they never came back was a big disappointment.

Given his appearance pre-credits, Angel should have been in this movie much more. Instead he has a few scenes and doesn't even get his hands dirty in the main battle.

Cyclops was also killed much too early (assuming he is dead of course). One of the big problems I have with the movies in general is how little Cyclops has been used and how downplayed his relationship with Jean always seems to be. Sure Wolverine and his forbidden love for Jean gets the spotlight plenty, but Scott and Jean's love for one another seems to have always been at the heart of the X-men. There were the occasional lines about how Jean killed the man she loved, but I really wanted more.

Put me down for being upset with Rogue's underusage as well. She went from being possibly the most important character in the first film to being an afterthought in this one in her relationship with Iceman and her desire to shed her powers. It was interesting to see her go through with the procedure, but couldn't we have at least been there to see it happen?

Colossus really needed more to do in the final battle, since he seems like the perfect member of the team to watch out for a big melee fight.

Phoenix's appearances in the second half of the movie were screaming for dramatic speeches, showing off of her abilities, or scenes of Jean struggling to regain herself, but instead she just stood around most of the time. One scene in particular that bugged me was Wolverine's battle to get to Jean in the forest only to have her stand around blankly and watch Magneto get rid of him. Why couldn't she have done it herself? It could have added alot more to the scene.

Still, this movie wasn't all bad, the action sequences were fun to watch as usual, and Magneto with the Golden Gate bridge was nice.

Even though she's a villain, I found it heartbreaking and effective seeing Mystique get abandoned by Magneto after she loses her powers. It did set up her later scenes quite well though.

We did get to see Iceman and Pryo duke it out, though I was hoping for a longer fight, perhaps ending with Pyro getting frozen into a solid block of ice.

Kelsey Grammar was great casting as Beast, and most of his scenes (in battle and out) were a blast.

It was nice to see Shadowcat getting in on the action after cameos in the first two films, and her race against the Juggernaut was really fun.

I really liked how they handled Magneto and Xavier's relationship as adversaries who respect each other, and those final shots of Magneto alone at the chessboard were wonderfully done.

The ethical issues of the movie were interesting and fun to think about, and it was nice to see the movie go both ways in the "cure" debate. I also liked the ethics behind Charles deciding to suppress Jean's powers himself (in fact, the opening scene was terrific in general).

As for Wolverine and Storm, they more or less seemed to do what they needed, I'm a little undecided on their roles.

And of course, we have those infamous four words uttered by our favorite unstoppable mutant.



So all and all, this was an okay, but very uneven movie experience. I'd give this movie **1/2 out of ****.

[StrideR]

So, the new team: Storm, Wolverine, Angel, Colossus, Iceman, Shadowcat?

[Dead Nigga Storage]

and, to a lesser degree, beast.

[sikkbones]

i liked the nods to the last 20 years of xmen contuinity, i.e. warren losing his wings, the fact that the planet x phoniex saga was referenced, among other things.. i was really impressed by the begginning which referenced days of future past..

i really liked the way that leech was used.. the one thing i didnèt like was the way the movie feell flat at the end i thought thats it... whereès the rest of it

interestingly enough tey did set it up for both prequels and sequels and it was nice to see mccoy refernce that he was not new to the xmen.

4 things annoyed me: the house of M reference and rogue losing her powers for bobby...
and kitty should be with the russian who should have a russian accent...
and juggernaut is not a fucking mutant.. he should not have ben affected.. they could have done a better job with that....

[StrideR]

4 things annoyed me: the house of M reference and rogue losing her powers for bobby...
and kitty should be with the russian who should have a russian accent...
and juggernaut is not a fucking mutant.. he should not have ben affected.. they could have done a better job with that....

The last 2 items there are true in the Ultimate X-Men book, where:

-Colossus is actually gay, and there's a love triangle between Bobby, Rogue and Kitty.
-Juggernaut is a mutant with no history with Xavier (I also prefer this approach as throwing in the concept of magic into a universe that walks the science fiction path is iffy at best, plus the cyttorak angle is rarely ever used and hence disposable).

[blueguy]

People should be more pissed about Psylocke then the Juggy being a mutant issue.

[billi vanilli]

just got home from this, really really enjoyed it.

maybe more thoughts later. probably one of the top five comic book adaptations i've ever seen. i liked it as much as and probably more than the other two.

really enjoyed the plethora of characters they had to draw on. special effects were spectacular, fun dialogue, etc etc etc. everything a summer movie should be and more.

giving it an A- for now, but i'm just going high to piss everyone else off :calvin1:

[sikkbones]

People should be more pissed about Psylocke then the Juggy being a mutant issue.
actually i'm more annoyed by the fact they made marrow a man.

[Jimmy]

got back, it was ok...staying after the credits was pointless, could have spotted that a mile off without watching.

the overall film was alright, but for some reason they never divulged into wolverines history which the second one did plenty of and like someones mentioned rogue didnt come to much watching the film her relationship with Bobbey was pretty non existant. I loved the action...everything else seemed...bleh and the use of angel should have been cut for more time on the key characters.

3/5

[Ihaveblink]

I thought it was Spyke, not Marrow.

[Jolly Bengali]

i liked the nods to the last 20 years of xmen contuinity, i.e. warren losing his wings, the fact that the planet x phoniex saga was referenced, among other things.. i was really impressed by the begginning which referenced days of future past..

i really liked the way that leech was used.. the one thing i didnèt like was the way the movie feell flat at the end i thought thats it... whereès the rest of it

interestingly enough tey did set it up for both prequels and sequels and it was nice to see mccoy refernce that he was not new to the xmen.

4 things annoyed me: the house of M reference and rogue losing her powers for bobby...
and kitty should be with the russian who should have a russian accent...
and juggernaut is not a fucking mutant.. he should not have ben affected.. they could have done a better job with that....

Well the wings weren't really "lost" in anything resembling the same way, no Mutant Massacre here, and what was the House of M reference? And I'd be interested where overt references to Planet X came in, too. I was looking out for a lot of this stuff, so always nice to hear about more.

[barfly]

She says "kill me" at the end, correct?


I may be wrong, but I thought it was "save me" which was confusing cause what you said would have made more sense, so I may be wrong.

Overall, great addition to the series. They've definately left themselves open for a fourth, despite the misleading title.

[Mike Scully]

I finally saw the movie today. It was only OK as a film, but decent enough as fanservice. I'm not very familiar with the comics; about all of my X-Men experience comes from the cartoon. Here are my thoughts:

- Storm's a pretty shitty leader. Xavier dies, leaving her in charge and the very first thing she does is consider closing the school. Why? What would that accomplish? Xavier didn't leave her in charge to just give up his legacy.
- Angel tried cutting off his wings, then when given an opportunity to be cured, he refuses. We're not given any reason at all why he changed his mind; he just does. I thought that was poorly done; waste of one of my favorite characters.
- Magneto didn't seem all that fazed right after seeing his best and only friend murdered in front of his eyes. I'd have thought he'd at least shed a tear or something. It was kind of strange. At least we do see some grief in the final scene.
- I also found it surprising that Magneto would just use and abandon Mystique like that. He wasn't even angry on her behalf. I had to remind myself that Magneto is far more evil in the films than in the cartoon, where he was barely even a villain.
- Favorite scene of the movie: the fight between Juggernaut and Kitty Pryde. It was hilarious and really cool to see Juggernaut running through the walls like that.
- The Dark Phoenix story felt wasted and sloppily integrated in the main storyline. Why exactly would she serve Magneto, or anyone? How did Magneto manage to control her so easily? Phoenix just sort of stands there gazing blankly for most of the battle, then suddenly goes berserk. Jean doesn't really put much of a struggle. The story would have ended more satisfyingly if Jean had sacrificed herself rather than by Logan.
- Pretty impressive special effects shots and action scenes: Xavier's death scene, the phoenix's rage, Magneto moving the bridge.
- Overall, the story just didn't do much for me, so many plot points and characters shoved in, and characters doing things with no rhyme or reason. Every X-Men film has had the daunting challenge of trying to handle an enormous cast of characters. The first film succeeded by focusing only on 2 central characters (Wolverine and Rogue) and Magneto, and relegating pretty much everyone else to background status with little character. The second film focused on more of the characters (Storm, Nightcrawler, Iceman, Wolverine), but could manage it due to the epic running time. This film couldn't really handle any of the characters all that well. But it's not that there weren't some intriguing parts and cool ideas in the movie, such as Wolverine's fight with Xavier over Jean, Xavier's friendship and adversity with Magneto regarding Jean, and Magneto dismissing Mystique. Ultimately, I'd have much preferred waiting a few more years for a top-notch well-deserved conclusion to the X-Men films, rather than FOX not waiting for Singer and rushing through production like they did.

[sikkbones]

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[rickey]

wow now i really wanna see that movie. chuck norris is aw3som3 lol1!

[sikkbones]

that's the directors cut only avialible on dvd in six months.

[Ihaveblink]

- Angel tried cutting off his wings, then when given an opportunity to be cured, he refuses. We're not given any reason at all why he changed his mind; he just does. I thought that was poorly done; waste of one of my favorite characters.

Well, he as an adult he's not afraid of his father, which was the reasoning for him doing it as a kid.